Miami Dolphins at Kansas City Chiefs: The Death of 'Suck for Luck' as Dolphins pummel Chiefs, 31-3
Just when it seemed like the 2011 Dolphins couldn't toy any more with their fans' emotions, the aqua-and-orange-clad punching bags traveled to Kansas City yesterday and put down a thorough 31-3 beat-down on a very game Chiefs squad in a place (Arrowhead Stadium) that is extremely unfriendly to road teams. Where has this Dolphins team been all along? Miami hadn't scored more than 17 points in a game since getting whipped, 38-24, by the Patriots in Week 1, and have boasted a red-zone offense about as refined and attractive as the scummy lyrics in a Rick James song. However, the Dolphins looked anything but winless against the Chiefs, demonstrating an actual game plan (what a concept), drastically improved offensive line play and even a bit of change in offensive philosophy.
Maybe the gag job against the Giants knocked something loose in this hapless football team. Maybe this current sense of desperation suits the Dolphins well. Maybe the Chiefs are just as bad as they initially looked this season, starting 0-3 and coming within striking distance of losing to Indianapolis in Week 5 and San Diego on Halloween night.
Who cares? The only thing for certain is that the Dolphins are now 1-7 and officially out of the winless doghouse.
Matt Moore wheels and deals while the offensive line actually protects him. Amazing!Well, we now know what Matt Moore can do when he isn't getting constantly piledriven by opposing pass rushers. Moore was smart and efficient against the Chiefs yesterday, connecting on 17 of 23 throws for 244 yards. Not great, but those aren't numbers that will typically lose games for you. And It's good to know the Dolphins finally understand the red-zone theorem play action + throws to tight end = mega touchdowns. Almost every Dolphins opponent this season has used their tight ends like the position is going out of style, so it was only a matter of time before Miami wised up and followed suit. Anthony Fasano was lights out yesterday (not surprising, since he was pretty much due for a big game), and Charles Clay was very much a seam threat all afternoon. But it wasn't just tight ends doing work for the Dolphins. Brandon Marshall fell right back into his old habit of beating the crap out of Chiefs cornerback Brandon Flowers (I am sure Flowers was super disappointed last year when he learned that the Broncos traded Marshall), and Reggie Bush made it look easy while bouncing runs to the outside. Also, Moore's pinpoint toss to Bush on a wheel route during the third quarter was the best pass thrown by a Dolphins quarterback this season. More of that, please.
Of course, none of the above would've been possible without strong offensive line play, which has been nonexistent for the Dolphins in 2011. However, Miami's offensive line pounded lumps on Chiefs defenders all day, and turned the pocket into a virtual sanctuary for Moore. Whether it was Jake Long snuffing out Tamba Hali (who entered yesterday's game with six sacks) all afternoon or Mike Pouncey and Richie Incognito getting a good, consistent push up the middle, the offensive line reinforced the pocket and kept Moore clean the entire game. How good of a performance did they have against the Chiefs? Even Marc Colombo played well.
Quick note: Mike Pouncey, in my mind, is officially as good a center as his brother Maurkice. Very few centers in the league can rip into the second level of defense and stay with the play the way Mike Pouncey can, and he helped make Bush's 28-yard touchdown scamper possible with a cut block on Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson. He's also becoming a strong pass protector and a real leader at the line of scrimmage.
I've also mentioned Long's injuries being a major factor this season, but No.77 looked as good as ever against the Chiefs, mirroring and sliding with Hali at will, and countering Glenn Dorsey's bull rushes with a strong punch of his own. A key indicator of Long's bothersome knee injury has been his increased tendency to lunge this season, but Long had no problem keeping the speedy Hali in front of him throughout the game. This is a great sign, though I honestly can't wait for the season to end just so Long can get the rest and rehabilitation necessary to get rid of this knee ailment for good.
Hello, defense
I wasn't surprised to see the Dolphins' defense rack up five sacks on the Chiefs, since the offensive line is hardly a strength for Kansas City. What did surprise me, though, was how our defense looked even better in the second half. This was also the best Miami's linebackers have played all season, flowing to the ball, tackling with an authority they've so sorely lacked as of late, and making play after play during the Dolphins' goal-line stand late in the game. The Dolphins' secondary, while still a hot mess (and missing Vontae Davis, who might as well be hanging out in the Boston Red Sox clubhouse these days), refused to let Dwayne Bowe and Steve Breaston beat them yesterday. Yeremiah Bell even went into enforcer mode against the Chiefs, and almost eviscerated Bowe and Dexter McCluster with sideline hits during the second half (I still think the hit on Bowe was clean, by the way).
Creating turnovers continues to be a problem for the Dolphins' secondary, but it's hard to argue with how they played yesterday. Of course, it helps when Matt Cassel is getting brained early and often by Miami pass rushers.
Random whatevers ...
-Brandon Marshall looked like a kid on Xmas morning after he hauled in that third-quarter touchdown, which totally justified the fact he had almost as many targets (11) as the rest of the Dolphins receivers combined (12) against the Chiefs.
-You can pretty much stick a fork in the Suck for Luck campaign, since Indianapolis continues to look godawful. Honestly, I kind of feel relieved to get the Luck monkey off of our back, and now the Dolphins can just focus on playing out the rest of the season, resetting the regime, and then setting their sights on either Landry Jones or Matt Barkley. Get familiar with those two quarterbacks, because we will draft one of them next April, even if we have to trade up to do so.
Also, here's my Andrew Luck prediction: the Seattle Seahawks will trade up and get him. Why? Because Pete Carroll has a tendency to become enamored with quarterbacks who previously humiliated him during his tenure as USC's head coach.
-Reggie Bush looks comfortable right now, and is just murdering defenses. Daniel Thomas now needs to step up and add some thunder to the equation in Miami's backfield.
-It'll be interesting to see how Vontae Davis is received once/if he returns to the lineup. I like Davis, but showing up hungover to practice is so 1970s (or '00s if you are Jeremy Shockey), and likely a reason why the Dolphins' secondary has looked unprepared and uninterested throughout this season. Not cool.
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Yes just simply felt GOOD!!!!
Our D played how I thought they would all season….our Offence finally looked a " well-oiled machine"!!
Don’t forget about RG III as well!
It was easier to get up today!
Outstanding effort by a beleaguered team
It was fun to watch. Cassel was mugged all afternoon and I cant remember our D looking better!
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are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
Who would have thought that Reggie Bush would be a better fantasy start than Chris Johnson?
impressive win and I am glad to see some signs of life out of the Dolphins this year. We still need a QB, even if Matt Moore puts up ridiculous numbers this year, because there are too many good QBs in the draft not to take one.
SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby
Good game for you guys
and thanks for all the posters who came over during the week to talk football. You guys are real class acts. Until we meet again :)
I hope you guys give Tebow a severe teabagging too
by Irishphan on Nov 7, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Nov 7, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
amazing game
Now I can actually fully hope we win every game without S4L in the back of my mind. It’s whiffin for griffin time!
Admiral of the RGIII "Robert Griffin," silver medal battleship of the luckfleet.
Trade Marshall NOW!!!
Daniel Thomas for 2012 pro bowl
Dear Reggie Bush, GTFO of miami
Vontae Davis and Sean Smith = Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain 2.0
All hail the mighty brandstater, the true qb god
by AnishB15 on Nov 7, 2011 6:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Amen! I think I will have to start that bandwagon and get it rolling.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 7, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Or Stiffin' for Griffin
I’ve read RG3 is about 50/50 on whether or not he’ll return to school. Baylor isn’t a strong program and has the potential to absolutely flush Griffin’s draft stock next season, so let’s hope he realizes this and declares for the 2012 draft.
This same theory pretty much applies to Jones (who just lost his best receiver for the season) and Barkley (who would have better receivers next year, but with zero offensive line protection, since Kalil will be out of there).
Commander and pilot of the Matt Barkley in 2012 Death Star. My bandwagon will laser yours into oblivion.
Game ball?
I think that Matt Moore should get it…especially since we won yesterday. I love the way he played. If not Moore, than Fasiano :)
Now…I believe we can give out a game ball…
by Maxilicous on Nov 7, 2011 7:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Moore or Fasano would both be good choices
But I would say give it to the offensive line for playing some great football. I really think it was them that made the offense work. Hell, we haven’t even mentioned defensive players and our defense held them to 3 points. What a great feeling to have too many deserving players!
Football is back!
a few more wins like this and perhaps we keep Sparano
There is no doubt the players are playing hard for him
by ricenbeans82 on Nov 7, 2011 8:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dear god, I hope not
As exciting as seeing this win was, I still can’t forgive all these losses we’ve watched over the past 3 years.
"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
Leading the drive for our new offensive coordinator: Mr. Dan Marino
The only way Sparano keeps his job is if he figures out a way to go back in time and nab a 23-year-old Dan Marino
Commander and pilot of the Matt Barkley in 2012 Death Star. My bandwagon will laser yours into oblivion.
Wave byby
to lucky in the rearview mirror,the Dolphins have two straight home games with Washington and slumping Buffalo
Buffalo clearly missed having Kyle Williams in the lineup
And I can see Fred Jackson running a train on us. NOT looking forward to our first meeting with Buffalo.
Commander and pilot of the Matt Barkley in 2012 Death Star. My bandwagon will laser yours into oblivion.
We will be underdogs for sure
but let’s face it: Miami has been in every game this year until the 4th quarter. I really think we are capable of beating any team in the league if we execute. I’m hoping to upset a few teams before the season is done!
Football is back!
Hey Dee
If they beat washington next sunday,the next promotion will be beer and buffalo wings for the bills game
washington is more dysfunctional than
the fins since huizenga is gone and the reds still have that nerd synder as their owner
dolphins win!
I think Griffin would be a better QB than either Jones or Buckley. In any event, I think sparano is still history. Miami has a chance against the redskins, Dallas, oakland, and philadelphia, but doubt they will top the bills, jets and patriots. So you’re looking at around 5 – 11.
dont let anyone tell you
that the owner has nothing to do with the success of the team.Owning an NFL franchise is like having a license to print money(this is how the article I just read worded it)
the bills were a fluke in a way
they were winning games with long runs and passes from scrimage and turnovers.they are slumping now and if the fins beat the redskins I bet they also beat the bills the following week.
History has them starting strong then tanking
I hope we’re just the opposite.
I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.
Yeah I agree. I got bashed for questioning their strong start but I guess I was correct in doing so.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 7, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Great game
Enjoyed it thoroughly, REALLY happy to be done with S4L sweepstakes!
Did my best, good luck Sparano, good luck Henne, looks like ch-ch-ch-changes.....
All the new teams that have improved records
will have to prove it over the full season,bills,lions,49ers
hope for luck
they could still get him you never know when someone like bill parcells is going to draft an offensive linemen with the very first pick in the draft
I am waiting for the first post that says Sparano still has this team and the Phins need to keep him. I am also waiting for the next post that say Matt Moore can win in this league as long as he is protected.
Great win. But if the Phins win just enough this year to miss out on the top QB’s in the draft, the ’11 season will be a disaster because it will keep the Phins where they are, mediocre at best.
If anything came out of yesterday’s win, it is the realization that the Phins need a dominant, franchise QB more than ever. Matt Moore had 3 TD passes, the first Miami QB to have 3 TD passes since Pennington in ’08!! How sad is that?
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"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
I don't think anyone really thinks we should keep Sparano
And Matt Moore can win in this league if we play teams like KC all the time. Reality is KC is not a good team. And Matt Moore isn’t a starter on a good team.
We definitely need a franchise QB, I am not surprised by the 3 TD thing since we have had Henne force fed to us the last couple years.
Yes KC C. look realy drained from there overtime win last monday ,& yes i'm fricken sick that we lost once again even with a win we lose chyt can't FO do anyting rite ive been gone less then a week & disaster hits!
WTF!!!
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by wild zion beaver on Nov 8, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
it is a great win nontheless though CT
this was a dominant team win over a football team that I have a tremendous amount of respect for. It feels great to finally get a win and to execute this well against such a talented ball club in their house. Whenever you win a game by 28 points in the NFL and on the road it feels great.
Noone is going to say that this team doesnt still have serious personnel issues that have to be dealt with in the offseason, with the pinnacle of our needs coming at the Quarterback position where we are terribly lacking. With that being said however nothing should be taken away from Matt Moore. He played an outstanding game yesterday and executed virtually every read and throw we asked him to. Despite our improved play on the line and our success on the ground especially on the edges, we owe a great part of thsi win to Matt Moore and to how well he played.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
That's just it civwarbuff, the Phins are talented, IMO. You don't win by 28 on the road against a team with a winning record without talent.
Talent isn’t the problem with the Phins with the exception of QB. If the Phins could get that kind of QB play every week, there wouldn’t be a problem and the Phins, with the talent they have, would be considered Super Bowl contenders. But no QB that the Phins have on the roster are anywhere near consistent enough to produce the results that we all saw yesterday.
That’s why yesterdays win was so important to remind us fans the need to get a stud, franchise QB because when the QB plays well, the Phins can win games. You can call me negative all you want, but I want the Phins to be the Pats or the Steelers or the Colts or the Packers. I want the Phins to be that team, like they were with Marino, in the conversation to win the Super Bowl every single year. They are not going to get to that level with Chad Henne or Matt Moore at QB.
If the Phins win 3 or 4 games this year and miss out on drafting Luck, Barkley, Jones, Griffin, etc, how does that make the Phins part of the Super Bowl conversation in the future? The Phins are not making the playoffs this year, so what else is there to play for if not for the future? That future includes drafting a QB very high in the draft, IMO. If this team plays just good enough to eliminate the chance to draft that QB, then this season is the worst of all things: Not good enough to make the playoffs yet good enough to keep from getting better.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
They'd trade up in that event
Not to speak on Ross’ behalf, but there’s no way in hell he’s walking away from this draft without a blue-chip quarterback. He wants an offense that puts asses in seats, and while Matt Moore was efficient yesterday, that wasn’t the look of a prototypical NFL offense. Rest assured, CT, we’ll get our guy.
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That said, I don't think we'll win more games than Seattle
They have a ton of shat NFC West games left on the schedule, and I don’t think we match up nearly as well against the lowly Redskins (their outside linebackers—Orakpo and Kerrigan—terrify me) as people seem to think.
Commander and pilot of the Matt Barkley in 2012 Death Star. My bandwagon will laser yours into oblivion.
I hope you are correct about a trade up if necessary. But it takes 2 to tango, if you know what I mean.
You need a trading partner. The right mix of teams in front of the Phins could prevent a trade up.
Regardless of Sunday, the Phins need a top of the draft QB next year. Getting one is the most important thing to this franchise right now and I don’t want that justified by a few meaningless wins this season.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
jeopardized not justified.
Sometimes the brain and the fingers don’t match. :)
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
I dont see it that way Ct
I see a football team that is playing with tremendous heart and courage and one that finally was able to put it all together, on the road against a good ball club. And I saw a quarterback in Matt Moore play some really good football yesterday. This is about us winning football games. The rest will fall as it may.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Nothing should be taken away from him.
Despite his shortcomings he is a major piece of our victory yesterday.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
I see your still driving that bandwagon full of positivity!
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by texascowpunk on Nov 7, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
haha he is tough but hes a loyal fan.
I disagree with him sometimes and the statements that he makes butI I know he loves this team just like I do, and you do Texas. But you are right he isnt an optimist.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Oh yeah I don't question his fandom. Just get beat down by all of the negativity after a while.
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by texascowpunk on Nov 7, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I absolutely agree.
Let’s get too excited by our 1-7 record. Sparano still needs to go, and we still need to draft a QB in the first round.
I am as excited as anyone by our decisive steamrolling of the Chiefs in Arrowhead, but let’s not start looking forward to an 8-8 record. There are a lot of teams in the cellar this year, and only so many can’t-miss QB prospects to go around. I think if we win more than four games we will miss out.
We won and it feels great.
I am happy even though this harms our draft position. But hell it feels good to win.
However lets not get ahead of ourselves here, Luck is still not out of reach, while I don’t want to suck for luck the reality is we only have 1 win in 8 games. And the fact is while its possible Indy may go 0-16, its not likely there has only been one team to ever do it. Its more likely they will finish 1-15 or 2-14, which is where we could end up as well. After Washington game next week it gets harder for the Dolphins.
I hope for wins, but I think until we are at win 3 we are still in SuckforLuck territory.
I've been sliding off the S4L bandwaggon for a while now.
Indy just looks too good at losing (and no one will ever convince me they aren’t throwing games). The good news is some of the other prospects look just as exciting.
I’m really starting to like RG3. I think he has as much or more upside as Luck, and his only knock is experience under center. But Newton is proving that a motivated college passer can be a viable rookie starter with enough hard work.
Great team win yesterday
I’m proud of our guys. Nothing is a given in the NFL And I can’t wait to see what we do when we get a real coaching staff and flush the remaining remnants of the Parcells experiment away for good.
by DrJay32 on Nov 7, 2011 10:00 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Man did that feel good!
Finally got to sit back and enjoy a game that was over early in the 4th quarter. I’m happy for the players and coaches. Was good to see the smiles again. I agree 100%, no one is going to out-suck the Colts. They seem to be on a mission for futility.
Something that should be mentioned.
It was brought up in the post game thread yesterday that The Kansas City Chiefs coaching staff made a critical error in rushing Tamba Hali of our left side for the majority of the game negating his dangerous abilities and wasting a matchup nightmare that Hali poses for Colombo. Ive been watching through the whole game again and nothing could be fartehr from the truth. Romeo Crennel moved Hali around on virtually every yesterday. He rushed from both edges, was used in shallow zone coverages and was used as rover and interior blitzer. There was no plan to rsh him off of our left side in particular and he saw plenty of snaps as a pass rusher from our right side.
Just a few examples of such plays. On the large completion to Marshall on the first possession where Marshall beat Brandon Flowers on an out and up pattern, Hali rushed off of Colombos side and Colobo cut him out.
2nd and 8 2.58 in the first we throw a quick slant to Marshall that falls imcomplete, Hali rushes off of Colobos side and is picked up well.
Two plays later 3-4 defense, Hali rushes off of Colombos side and we run up the middle.
Very next play 2nd and 7 , 1.30 left in first quarter we run a screen away from Hali’s side (Colombos again but Colobo blocks down and Fasano takes him) to Bush that rumbles inside the 5 yard line
These are just a few of maybe 7-10 snaps Hali took on that side of the foramtion in the first quarter alone.
No validity to that argument.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
This includes on some of our biggest plays of the game.
On our three play drive that resulted in a touchdown and brought the lead to 14-3, on the second pattern to Clay (the second of the three plays) Hali rushed off of Colombos side (whereas on the first he rushed off of Long’s side). On that play Colombo blocked down so as to double team Tyson Jackson with Vernon Carey. The Chiefs however ran a stunt, which Colombo recognized shiftedback to the outside and picked up Kelly Gregg from the nose Tackle position while Pouncey and Carey continued the double team on Jsckon. Nice play there from Colombo! Hali rushed the outside. He got chipped from Fasano who then went out on his pattern and got doubled by Lex Hilliard and Daniel Thomas in the backfield who picked him up well and maintained a good throwing lane.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Glad we got that 1st win and the difference was the play of Matt Moore and our OL
Play calling went on a shopping spree and Reggie Bush may need to take a drug test. I do however feel that missing OTAs was replaced by the the first 5 games of the season as now we are starting to see players come to form. BTW, a qb that can read defenses and can throw darts is what we need in the draft.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
It's amazing what an offensive line can do for a team when it blocks, who would have known, shocking! Lol
U block for Reggie and he will look electrifying, u give moore all day in the pocket and he will carve a defense up like any decent nfl QB, it’s the fundamentals of football, the teams that block and pass rush win games….
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I know I will get blasted for this,
But Sparano deserves a spot on this teams coaching staff. Perhaps not as a head coach, but as an offensive line coach perhaps.
He has the respect of the locker room, and what he has done with what he has had is not short of amazing.
I dont blame him for our problems at RT, I dont even blame him for the personnel decisions, he has made a case with our offensive line thathave seemed like smart maneuvers.
1. Long, arguably the best LT in football, was slated as a future RT in the NFL.
2. Pouncey was slated to have issues with snaps, and had a case made to be positioned best at LG, has become one of the premiere Centers in the league. All in his rookie season.
3. Incognito was rumored to be,scratch that, had earned the title of being a problem child, has become a solid player at a position he was argued to have a lack of skillset to play.. Still think he should be at RG, but therein lies the problem.
4. Vernon Carey, while taking his time adjusting, has slid over to RG and played like a first round offensive lineman.
All this, coupled with the fact that he has the respect of the players, makes me think that no matter what we need to find a spot for him on our staff, put him behind a winning coach, and let him learn a few things
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LOL Why do you think you will be "blasted"?
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by texascowpunk on Nov 7, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
He took a DE. "instead" of a (right tackle), he knew what we needed. Then took a R.Guard with the second pick how insulting is that!
WTF!!!
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by wild zion beaver on Nov 8, 2011 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
About Pete Caroll.
Also, here’s my Andrew Luck prediction: the Seattle Seahawks will trade up and get him. Why? Because Pete Carroll has a tendency to become enamored with quarterbacks who previously humiliated him during his tenure as USC’s head coach.
I bet he’d love to draft Luck soley as a “Eff You” to Harbuagh.
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Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
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