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Are the 2011 Miami Dolphins in Danger of Repeating 2007?

Has winning become too tall a task for the 2011 Miami Dolphins?


The 2007 Season was miserable for the Miami Dolphins and their fans.  The team finished 1-15 that year, waiting until Week 15 to pull off that first - and only - win, when wide receiver Greg Camarillo raced down the field to take a Cleo Lemon pass 64-yards to beat the Baltimore Ravens in overtime.

Now, the comparisons are starting between that team and this year's Miami Dolphins squad.

The 2007 edition of the Dolphins started the year with veteran quarterback Trent Green under center.  Green held the spot until the Week 5 matchup against the Houston Texans, when he was knocked unconscious and out for the remainder of the year.  Backup Cleo Lemon was then brought in to start the next five games, before giving way to rookie John Beck. Beck lost the next four games, before Lemon was brought back in as the starter for the final three weeks.

Star-divide

The 2011 version has had Chad Henne start the first four games of the year, and now are back in the quarterback carousel mode, with Matt Moore coming in to replace the now injured Henne.  Meanwhile, the Dolphins are openly trying out backups for Moore, while still holding out hope that Henne's separated, non-throwing shoulder will only need rest, and not season-ending surgery.

In 2007, the Dolphins were ready for the excitement that welcoming former Heisman Trophy winner Ricky Williams back to the team would bring.  The running back was reinstated to the NFL before Week 12, with him making his debut against the Steelers in Pittsburgh.  The excitement lasted through 6 carries, before a torn pectoral muscled sidelined Williams for the remainder of the year.  

This offseason, the Dolphins made a splash by bringing the electric, former Heisman Trophy winner (and subsequent returner of the Heisman Trophy) Reggie Bush.  Bush was brought in, proclaiming that he could be a "feature" back, something he never was in New Orleans.  Although he has lasted longer than 6 carries, the Bush experiment has disappointed thus far been far greater.  Bush is averaging 3.0 yards per carry, with just 10 carries per game.  That's just 28.9 yards per game.

Maybe the biggest similarity between the 2007 and 2011 teams is Jason Taylor.  Somehow, Taylor always seems to be on the field for Miami during the bad years, but not during good seasons (i.e., 2008's 11-5 record, when Taylor was in Washington).

The 2011 Miami Dolphins aren't to the point where people are questioning IF they will every win, but it's not that far away, either.  Winning, and losing, are a mental factor, as well as on the field performance.  If this team isn't careful, the mentality that they can't win will seep into the locker room.  That's what happened in 2007 - and could very easily happen again in 2011.



KEVIN NOGLE
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I just threw up a little...

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Oct 7, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN !!!!

Hey and Brain Billick isn’t going to be around to screw it up.

Some of you have such short term thinking it is pathetic

Win 4 games this year or possibly super bowls in 2014-2019.

by DAVEBUCK on Oct 7, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy on the drinking....

lol

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Realize everthing looks better in the light!

In about ten weeks all will be a lot rosier!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

only with my left palm

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 7, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ambedextreous are we!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The schedule is pretty brutal

it is not out of the question for this team to only win 1 or 2 games at this point.

by cubman987 on Oct 7, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously.....

I can see us maybe beating Denver and/or Kansas City, but otherwise it’s a really rough schedule.

by yevinorion on Oct 7, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

If we do only win one game we can take another franchise left tackle yay!

by Finz4eva on Oct 7, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, right tackle, this time....

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing that high is a left tackle move Jake to right where he is more suited err less injurys!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This^^^^

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see the team going 1-15

The league has several teams that seem to be going through a rough beginning. Teams like Pittsburgh,Indianapolis,New York Jets,and a few others are also having troubles.

It stands to be seen that the shortened offseason has hurt the NFL.

Teams like Green Bay have been together for years. Same coaching staff,same players at key positions,but there is one thing to note: they are also having their complications. Their star OLB has tallied one sack. Sound familiar?

Also note, the teams that are succeeding at high levels have all been in the same system offensively. With the same key players.

Needless to say,we have way too much talent this season to only win one game.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 7, 2011 11:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ummm

Which star outside linebacker sounds familiar to us? Cam wake is lookin good, 3 sacks in 4 games? Good pace. I don’t expect 2 sacks a game by any linebacker or I’m requesting some testing..lol

IM HUNGRY, FEED THE WOLF

by dolfan702 on Oct 7, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Virginity test?

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

broken hyman

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Testing Stick....

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you tell me how to post an image in my reply...

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa...thats a big stick!!!!

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 7, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha...THATS WHAT SHE SAID!

Beat y’all to it

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 7, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh could there be a "real life" annadote in here sumwere?

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the occasunal 3 or 4 sake game wood be highly exspected!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This team sucks really bad

we find ways to lose week in and week out. If we come out the bye week stumbling I could see us losing all our games. Unless an interim coach lights a spark.

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Oct 8, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Dave Hyde, think it relates to why we're in this situtaion:

“Let’s not make Parcells some parody. He is a fascinating man, a certain Hall of Famer and a premier coach of his era. Unfortunately for the Dolphins, his era was in the 1980s and 1990s. The game shifted dramatically because of everything from rule changes to indoor stadiums, but he didn’t shift with it.”

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Just like the '07 team, this team has better talent than the record.

So if this year is another ‘07 record wise, don’t be surprised if next year there is another tremendous turnaround.

"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)

by ct1361 on Oct 7, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The tremendous turnaround in 2008

Was based on a week schedule. I wrote that two years ago.

Miami went 11-5 on a schedule full of games against Seattle, Oakland, Kansas City, Buffalo(twice), and St. Louis. Some of the NFL’s worst teams last year and Miami won their games against those teams by totals of 2, 2, 4, 13, 5, and 9 points. Hardly convincing fashion.

Ironically enough, Miami faces the NFC West again next year.

Miami will win a game this year. If they win more than 3, that will be alot.

by Bill Jempty on Oct 7, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weak schedule coupled with wildcat, Chad P. falling from the heavens...

Tom Brady being injured.

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

as well as an incredible work ,

determination, resiliency and extremely vital offseason acquisitions that improved critical areas of the team.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

etc, etc, etc...just football. I want sustained greatness, not flash in the pan potential every 10 yrs.

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Constipation?

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya...

"On my signal...UNLEASH HELL!" Gladiator
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

tom brady only matters for 2 games though.

Even then…he always struggles against us. Excluding this year and 07

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 7, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wait...haha...

sorry Ive been drinking…are you saying that because he wasnt around the Pats didnt win as many games???

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 7, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No such thing as a weak sked in the NFL. AFCe has been strong and their is not a

where the same exact teams go to the playoffs for consecutive years.

Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW

by fin4three5yrs on Oct 7, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

AFC South and NFC West are on the schedule in 2012. The two softest divisions in Football.

I’m convinced that soft schedule in ’08 was one of the reasons that Parcells took the job with the Dolphins in the first place. That “remarkable” turnaround would cement his “genius” status with minimal effort.

"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)

by ct1361 on Oct 7, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

no division is soft in this league.

but yes those are the two divisions we play next year, as well as probably the 4th seeded teams from the AFC North and AFC West.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Oct 8, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

assuming we finish last in the division

which seems to be the most likely scenario to me. As of now that means Kansas City and Indy.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Oct 8, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at that Houston game when Trent green went out

I think that’s the game when we lost 15-something. Basically they hit 5 field goals of 50+ yards to win. Awful

I hate to say it but I think it’s time to clean house. We need a new mentality. I like saprano, but I think he’s had a good chance. I feel bad for him and henne, but it’s time to move on.

by ejmarsh on Oct 7, 2011 12:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ANOTHER BIG DIFFERENCE

Is that our Head Coach will not make it thru the season in 2011.

Bryan Cox for Interim Head Coach!

Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....

Zman

by Pianomanzz on Oct 7, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Cox? I don't tink so....

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't be any worse than Sparano..

and hey, at least BC could get the guys fired up!

Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....

Zman

by Pianomanzz on Oct 7, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Danger? I see Opportunity!

First Jake Long, now Andrew Luck!

by Saulus on Oct 7, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

YESSSSSS PLEEEEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins pick:

Andrew Luck; QB from Stanford University

I really cannot believe the DUMBWITS from DAVIE can screw this up!!!!!!!!!!!!

by DAVEBUCK on Oct 7, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

There are no prizes for being losers :-(

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no?

Look at the Lions….

This is Team Teal. Sharks and Phins.
Cut me open and I bleed Teal...

Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dolphins won a Super Bowl. -Mosul_DolFan, Phinsider.com

Marc Emery ... the Big Bad Bogeyman ... who offered natural seeds that could potentially become a non-toxic, non-addictive, highly beneficial 12,000-year-old plant. Where are the victims? Where are the bodies? "Justice Minister" Rob Nicholson and his ilk should be the criminals imprisoned.

by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Oct 7, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I see... but the draft is always a crap shoot.

They may not pan out as predicted. And it takes time.

Even with new management….

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ill give you that...

But, the Lions are proof that the draft can turn your franchise for…well, what were seeing now into what the Lions are seeing. Go figure it took a QB in the first round. :o

This is Team Teal. Sharks and Phins.
Cut me open and I bleed Teal...

Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dolphins won a Super Bowl. -Mosul_DolFan, Phinsider.com

Marc Emery ... the Big Bad Bogeyman ... who offered natural seeds that could potentially become a non-toxic, non-addictive, highly beneficial 12,000-year-old plant. Where are the victims? Where are the bodies? "Justice Minister" Rob Nicholson and his ilk should be the criminals imprisoned.

by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Oct 7, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. A first round quarterback is a must....

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao...really????

They drafted in the first 5 how many times?…hell they kept drafting and drafting and drafting…all good college players…all projected to be stars…

And it took them how long to actually be 4-0? I haven’t looked…but I’m wondering if they’ve beat quality teams or just had our 2008 season with soft teams.

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 7, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must be new to football...

One first round pick does not turn a crap team into beasts. Thats one of the biggest issues I have with the whole “Suck for Luck” mentality.

 My example? Barry Sanders…once again a Lions comparison, but it fits again. You need more than one beast of a player to make a team. Its why the Capitals will never will spend time with Stanley(Win the Stanley Cup for you non hockey people). Theres a reason theyre called TEAM sports. The QB was the last player they drafted that was the biggest piece of what theyre doing now.

This is Team Teal. Sharks and Phins.
Cut me open and I bleed Teal...

Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dolphins won a Super Bowl. -Mosul_DolFan, Phinsider.com

Marc Emery ... the Big Bad Bogeyman ... who offered natural seeds that could potentially become a non-toxic, non-addictive, highly beneficial 12,000-year-old plant. Where are the victims? Where are the bodies? "Justice Minister" Rob Nicholson and his ilk should be the criminals imprisoned.

by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Oct 8, 2011 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

No...not new to Football

Watched it for almost 30 years, played middle LB IN semi pro football…in the states and in Germany (bundesliga)…so no…not new to football at all.

As for your example, you say the draft worked for them. Sure, but it took them forever. EVENTUALLY all teams have a good year. As for their QB…it’s his 3rd year. Not something I want to wait for to be honest with you.

Still a believer in having a top tier TE.

by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 8, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea Chad Henne

has also been up to his injury, one of the brightest points on this ballclub.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Oct 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

chad henne a bright spot?

surely you jest. no team can win only scoring 7 points a week, and that’s the best chad henne could do

by JImbo111 on Oct 8, 2011 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He was the best part of our offense.

Our running game was sporadic and couldn’t punch it in the endzone.

The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Oct 9, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you really are new to football...

Please explain to me how a QB with a killer instinct is bad? Last season he played what, three games? I think you entirely missed the point on this one. Two weeks in a row hes lead his team to overcome 20+ point deficits. We couldnt do it against the browns so, yeah. Not to mention how good he looked his rookie season.

 http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12483/matthew-stafford

This is Team Teal. Sharks and Phins.
Cut me open and I bleed Teal...

Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dolphins won a Super Bowl. -Mosul_DolFan, Phinsider.com

Marc Emery ... the Big Bad Bogeyman ... who offered natural seeds that could potentially become a non-toxic, non-addictive, highly beneficial 12,000-year-old plant. Where are the victims? Where are the bodies? "Justice Minister" Rob Nicholson and his ilk should be the criminals imprisoned.

by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Oct 8, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're missing his point, it takes more than one player to turn around a franchise.

The Lions had to draft very high for a long time to finally hit on enough guys to turn the franchise around. That is why Sucking for Luck is a bad thing, because there are so many problems with our offense.

The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Oct 9, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Errmmm....

That was actually MY point. lol.

This is Team Teal. Sharks and Phins.
Cut me open and I bleed Teal...

Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dolphins won a Super Bowl. -Mosul_DolFan, Phinsider.com

Marc Emery ... the Big Bad Bogeyman ... who offered natural seeds that could potentially become a non-toxic, non-addictive, highly beneficial 12,000-year-old plant. Where are the victims? Where are the bodies? "Justice Minister" Rob Nicholson and his ilk should be the criminals imprisoned.

by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Oct 9, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you have better talent than the 2007 team

I just don’t think you’ve played up to your potential, which ultimately is a coaching issue in my opinion. But you do have a tough schedule. I think you can definitely beat the broncos and the chiefs and should pull an upset or two against better teams.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 7, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

we also have had devastating injuries.

And honestly I think this team has a very good chance of beating your New York Jets on Monday Night next week. We are a pretty good matchup for the Jets right now.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well you usually do play your best against us

Right now we’re in the middle of trying to fix some things on offense so hopefully that happens. I think our defense is moving in the right direction. From my perspective, I’m surprised by how your defense has been playing. Going into the season, they looked like they would be quite formidable. If you get that fixed, I would say you will win a bunch of games.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 7, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yea there have been a few serious problems on defense.

First is the cornerback position. In the offseason I think this front office didnt adequately address the cornerback position and consequently we have a serious lack of depth behind Vontae Davis (who got hurt). This problem was somewhat masked last season by the ability of our front 3 and especially our linebackers to stop the run. However Karlos Dansby has had a rough start to the season. For whatever reason he is failing to make anywhere near the amount of plays he did last season and its hurting us. Kevin Burnett has also been a problem. As well as he has played at times this season (mostly in coverage) he struggles against the run for a few different reasons that should have been foreseen by this FO.

I also believe the injury to Koa Misi is extremely costly. He doesnt get much love around here, but he is our second best outside linebacker (behind Wake and actually ahead of JT imo) and is deceptively talented. He is a young, smart player who excels in edge setting and plays very well against the run.

Our struggles stopping the run have made Mike Nolans job much harder, especially with a young extremely aggresive FS and Yeremiah Bell who is getting older and becoming less effective in coverage. So that is a brief overview (and only my perspective) on some of the defensive problems in Miami.

As for playing the Jets however I see this as a pretty good matchup for us. The Jets dont have incredible talent as WR which makes our job in the secondary easier (especially with Vontae hopefully coming back) and your having some problems on the offensive line.

However as always for us TE is a major concern, even with Burnett on the field. We really struggle against good TE’s and Dustin Keller is a darn good one which creates instant problems for this defesne.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points

I agree with all of them. I think Holmes is a pretty great talent and Plax has also played extremely well. Mason has been a real disappointment so far and personally, I think he should be 4th behind our rookie Kerley. The problem is that no matter how good our receivers are, we have to get Sanchez some time to allow routes to develop down the field. He was getting killed right after the snap on a lot of plays.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 7, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im actually going to watch the Jets Sunday Night game

against The Ravens right now. Lovely DVR lol.

As for Jeremy Kerley, Id love to hear more about the way he is playing and what you guys think of him over at Gang Green?

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by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't gotten a lot of reps out there

But so far I think he’s better than Mason, he’s got some speed and some good moves.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 7, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats interesting.

The Dolphins have a young kid at corner named Jimmy Wilson who has the past two weeks been thrust into an active role (a full 22 snaps gainst the Browns, 20-25ish against San Diego) who is raw but very talented. He is fast and has good quickness so im confident in his abilities against another young and still inexperienced reciever.

As for Plaxico Im happy for him. He is a good ball player, who in my opinion got a rotten deal.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and people shouldnt forget

even with these problems thsi Dolphins team has been in all four games this year. Including one in Cleveland the Dolphins had in their hands and let slip away (no intention of taking anything away from the Browns there, they made the plays late in the fourth quarter, credit to them)

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by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think you guys are probably too good to win the suck for luck sweepstakes.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 7, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not much into that

“Suck for Luck” talk or anything like that. SImply focused o nthe New York Jets you know?

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by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never been into rooting for my team to lose

So I don’t get that either. I realize he looks like a great talent and all that but I just can’t bring myself to root for my team to lose. I can’t believe how many finfans are on that bandwagon.

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by OldJetsFanatic on Oct 7, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

100% agree Fanatic

its baffling to me.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 7, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh by the way

It nice to see civil discourse from other teams fans, I have to say that this is better then getting my life threatened in Buffalo by 50 Bills fans. True story, but anyway.

by Northern Fin Fan on Oct 7, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh dont beleave everything you read, "life & death" ride on the posibility of (the first two) picks!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 7, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Auto Rec'd... So essentially, Miami just got another loss with Henne going down.

Mami 0 and 5. Sweet. We’re on our way to be the team that everyone kicks with jokes and sorry feelings… and oh, the brown paper bags over fans heads. Not to mention the posters, letters and chants.

Just needed to remind myself of what’s coming in the three months left.

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by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If the defenese does what it's supposed to do

Miami can win with or without Henne. Of course if the defense was making plays in the first 4 weeks we would not be 0-4. How is it that when we fix one side of the ball the other side goes to hell every time. I don’t see 1-15 but they are going to be near the bottom.

by rtantalo on Oct 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Fruit on the bottom....

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by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

screwing it up

If they still have Ireland in the front office they can screw anything up.

by Bryan Brownell on Oct 7, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad

Isn’t it sad that 4 weeks into the season the best case senario is for the fins to lose all their games and draft Luck. Suck has become the norm for Dolphin fans. (I originally meant “such has become the norm” but my typo says it better).

by straighttalk on Oct 7, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

My hope....

Is to go 3-13 and get that #1 overall pick, with our first win being on MNF against the Jets, the second win being in Dallas on Thanksgiving, and the third win also against the Jets. At the end of all that, we sign Andrew Luck with the first overall pick.

That will make me a happy camper.

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by CheechYou on Oct 7, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Whoa...

LOL. I thought I was on the Sharks boards for a second when I saw your name and icon. XD

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by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Oct 8, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's actually difficult to go 0-16

We may even beat the jets. I’m pretty sure we won’t but when you look at Sancheese trying to give the games away and the remote possibility that Smith, or Carrol, Allen or somebody may get a takeaway…well, it’s improbable but not impossible. We have two weeks to set up for the jets. They may or may not have Mangold back and their run game sucks. I’ll be happy at 2-14 and still be in the Luck Lottery.

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by CanT0o on Oct 7, 2011 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I think im going to barf

I don’t think I would be able to stand another 2007 type season, even if it meant luck.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 7, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Anyone here who actually wishes for the Phish to loose..

Should just pack up & leave. All you “Suck for Luck” people have no class & should go elsewhere.. We don’t need your negative attitude here.

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by Pianomanzz on Oct 7, 2011 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

as much as it may not look like it

i really believe that no Dolphins fan actually wishes for the team to lose. But wouldn’t it be ironic to suffer through a 3-13 season, only to have one other team end up 2-14 and pick Luck with the 1st pick?

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 7, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turd in the punch bowl!

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by Alpha6 on Oct 7, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we are sucking for Luck with out even trying.

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by PotM on Oct 9, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do see a bit of resemblance, but not because of injuries.

The ‘07 team appeared lost quite a bit and often looked like they were easily knocked out of the game early. They didn’t have the mental makeup to come back and win if you had a multi-score lead. I don’t think this offense looks as lost yet, but without Henne and Thomas (our only consistency in the running game) I can see our offensive identity disappearing quickly. Thomas needs to come back for Miami to prevent Miami’s offense to be in a “rollover and die” mode they often found themselves in back in ’07.

Unfortunately, our defense kept us competitive in a lot of games in ‘07 as well. We don’t have that benefit this year. I don’t think this season is quite as disappointing as ‘07 yet, but a loss or two more without a win will have some players quitting on the team and will play without much heart and emotion. People like to say that professionals don’t quit, but there are a few that do. It’s easy to see when a team is beaten and down. The more weeks that go by without a win, the tougher it’ll be to get one. We’re not at ‘07 levels yet, but if Moore struggles and the defense doesn’t improve, we could actually find ourselves in an even worse situation. NOTE: This doesn’t mean record wise, but the overall quality of play during the games.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn I Hope So!!!!!

Giddy…giddy
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by SSFDballer on Oct 7, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sage Rosenfells - Wake up peeps

The owner & front office can’t admit it to anyone, but they are going for suck 4 luck.

Dude hasn’t thrown a pass since 2008
They would got Garrard if they wanted to win

If Sparrano or Ireland have a problem with this they will be fired, & this will be the lead pipe lock tell the owner wants to Suck!!!

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by SSFDballer on Oct 7, 2011 4:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I agree 100%

The goal is clearly to Suck for Luck!!

by DAVEBUCK on Oct 7, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

to soon to give up

I am amazed at all the psychics who are commenting on this article. Who knew so many people could see so far into the future. With 11 (ELEVEN!!!!) teams at either 0-4 or 1-3 (ELEVEN TEAMS!!!! A THIRD OF THE LEAGUE!!!!) it must take someone with psychic powers to predict the Dolphins are going to finish last in the league and get next year’s #1 overall pick in the draft. C’mon people! The Chargers go 0-4 or 1-3 every year and then make the playoffs. I’m not saying Miami is going to make the playoffs but the people who have thrown away this season already is ridiculous. Miami was 0-2 before finishing 11-5 in Sparano’s first year. There is A LOT of football left to be played. Everybody just calm down before predicting absolute devastation.

by touchdown dolphins! on Oct 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Win or lose

I still boooze

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by DolfinPhan on Oct 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Who's quiting on who?

Word on the street is that Sparano has put his house down here up for sale. Even this brainless turd can see the writing on the wall.

by straighttalk on Oct 8, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, I feel like we're diving headfirst into 2007 territory

Especially with the mix of close losses and blowouts we’ve suffered thus far. We really should have beaten Washington in Week 1 of 2007, and that MNF game against the Steelers was so boring and terrible, it could have been used to chase Noriega out of his hiding place.

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by kmb8488 on Oct 8, 2011 2:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Suck for Luck....excitment?

I think the whole Suck for Luck thing is because we really do not have anyone to get excited for on this team. The closest thing is Daniel Thomas, who can’t stay healthy (sound familiar with our RB situation?). I think having a stud PROSPECT raises everyone’s excitment level and makes the Dolphins relevant again. It’s sad how irrelevant Miami has become. I can’t get myself to watch the game and root for the other guys to gain a yard, let alone win…but…if the Football Gods bestow another HIGH 1st round pick on the Phins and they don’t give us something to get excited about…I may lose it.

by UltraMarknus on Oct 8, 2011 5:05 AM EDT reply actions  

As long as Tony's the man, we will Suck for Luck

We are solidly in the hunt for Luck. Strange as it is to say, this may offhandedly be Ross’ gift to the Dolphins! Keeping Tony for the remainder of the season would guarantee us a top three or four pick in the draft with maybe, as it stands now, Kansas City and Seattle in direct contention with the Dolphins for Luck. Figure the Colts: If Manning was going to sit out the entire season, wouldn’t he be on IR by now? He’s coming back late and he’ll make a statement that he’s still the Colts QB going forward. Minny drafted Ponder and he’s their future. Denver has the Tebow/Orton thing going and will most likely win at the very least against us and KC, maybe a few more. Ergo with Tony at the helm we’re dead in the water and headed for Luck!

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by CanT0o on Oct 8, 2011 6:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Ross will be greeted by........................................................................................

A not so warm reception at the next home game TBD,lets see how the fans vote, because at this point push wont come to shove unless he sees a partially empty stadium at the home games

by broxtone on Oct 8, 2011 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

just in case you thought huizenga had the teams.....................................................

best interest in mind he paid parcells 16 million to help sink this ship a lot faster.This organization has been going downhill for years.Remember what wayne did with the marlins,they finally wont have to pay rent in a football season starting next year.WH is one of the worst sports owners ever.Ross needs to hire his own people if he wants a fresh start,otherwise keep bailing because the ship is still sinking.

by broxtone on Oct 8, 2011 7:24 AM EDT reply actions  

NOT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT, BUT

I just opened this website and it’s not the usual set up I’ve been seeing. I don’t see the posts on the right hand side so I can’t find the news. I just opened up the Miami Herald and saw that Al Davis, Owner, Oakland died but not much detail. ANYONE? Thank you.

by Valentine14 on Oct 8, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Consider this

I fully expect the Patsies to beat the Jests this week and for us to get our first win against the Jests as we should be at almost full strength healthwise. And one extra week for Moore to get first team reps. All that being said, we would be 1-4 and the Jests 2-4. They would be added to the Luck lottery as well.

by miamimike71 on Oct 8, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm with you

phins beat the jets.

by JImbo111 on Oct 8, 2011 8:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

so what lefty is saying is that

we need camarillo?

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