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Dolphins at Giants Position by Position Breakdown

As if there is any doubt which team has the better quarterback, the Miami Dolphins or the New York Giants.

The Miami Dolphins travel to East Rutherford, New Jersey for the second time in 20 days, this time to take on the New York Giants.  The Dolphins are still looking for their first win of the year, while the Giants are currently a game up on the NFC East, and looking to stay there.

As we all know, Miami is a mess, and it doesn't look to be getting any better any time soon.  But, a good performance, and a W coming out of this game could, at least for a week, alleviate some of the pain.  

But, the Giants aren't in first place in the NFC East by luck.  They are a very solid team, and should be able to handle whatever the Dolphins throw at them.

Make sure to head below the jump to see my position by position breakdown, and my prediction for the game:

Star-divide

 

Pos Adv  Reason
QB

Eli Manning.  Matt Moore. Any questions?

RB

With no Daniel Thomas, the Dolphins will be looking at a backfield of Reggie Bush, Lex Hilliard, and Steve Slaton.  That's not going to match up to Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs - even if the Giants are hit and miss when it comes to the running game in 2011.
WR/TE

At this point, I am giving this to any receiving corps - possibly even the team that Little Nicky 21 coached - simply because I am assuming they catch the ball.  If Brandon Marshall doesn't figure this out soon, he may just drop his way out of a job in March.

OL

The Dolphins have the third worst pass blocking line in the league.  The Giants are tied for the league lead in sacks this season.  Doesn't matter what the rushing game numbers are (still, better for the Giants), but when there's a chance your QB doesn't survive the game, your offensive line isn't going to win the comparison.  

DL Like I said above...leading the league in sacks.
LB Miami can't stop the run.  They can't sack a quarterback.  They can't cover a tight end.  Guess who is responsible for most the production for all three of those stats?  That's right.  The linebackers.  Any chance the Dolphins have the better crew?  Nope.
DB

Vontae Davis is out, and the Dolphins are expected to start rookie, seventh round draft pick Jimmy Wilson opposite Sean Smith.  Meanwhile, the Dolphins safety position is a mess.  Although Giants' CB Prince Amukamara is out as well, the Giants are a better secondary.
ST

I probably should give this to the Giants as well - but I'll go with the Brandon Fields factor, and give one category to the Dolphins.

Prediction: Giants, 34-17

Record Predicting Dolphins Games: 1-5

Record Predicting All NFL Games: 61-42


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geez...should we even show up?

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by Kdog92 on Oct 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping that if I go completely Giants

The Dolphins can actually win.

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by Kevin Nogle on Oct 30, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea this game is going to be really tough to win.

but they all are in this league Mosul.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

good strategy, hope it works lol

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by daytonadolfan on Oct 30, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

good plan

its foolproof

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by Patssuck456 on Oct 30, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy Theory

Stephen Ross is a mastermind of the “Suck for Luck” movement. All our players are playing-(correction-NOT PLAYING) for big bonus checks!!!

by miamimike71 on Oct 30, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Soft

Also isn’t it a coincidence that were 0-6 and all these players are out? I think some of these injuries are bullshit. If we were in the mix- say like 4-2, would these soft players be out then?? That’s why I respect Stephen Jackson so much. Through all the years of futility, Jackson always plays hard even when not 100%.

by miamimike71 on Oct 30, 2011 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The matchup that really makes me nervous is

our cornerbacks Jimmy Wilson, Sean Smith and Will Allen vs. Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham and Victor Cruz. We are really going to be in a tough position if we consistantly isolate any of our in man coverage so Mike Nolan will use deception and lots of zone coverage to help mask our problems in this matchup. We will constantly try to disguise where the man coverage is and Mike Nolan excels at this type of deception. However with the amount of zone coverage we run new problems are opened up.

Whenever you have a mismatch on the outsides and you run lots of scheme to mask that mismatch you become increasingly reliant upon pressure on the Quarterback and beome exposed to good Tight ends. Jake Ballard isnt very fast but he is a smart player who will find the seams in our coverage if we arent careful. Mike Nolan has to shake it up alot today and we are going to have to occasionally expose ourselves on the backend to cover Ballard.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice to see your enthusiasm Kdog. But you are right.

This is going to be a very hard game to win. The Giants are extremely well coached and Eli Manning is playing an outstanding level. He will exploit the mistakes we make in coverage and he wont be easy to confuse with pressure, coverage or roving looks.

For us to win this game we have to play extremely well on the defensive side of the ball and get pressure on Manning with the 4 man rush. Nolan will shift up what 4 bring the pressure but the fact still remains if we dont get to Manning we are goign to have some seriosu problems on the backend.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i could see that happening

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by AnishB15 on Oct 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Giants are going to run plenty of 3 reciever sets today as everyone does against us

so as to get our base 3-4 personnel off the field. We have much more trouble against the run in our nickel package as many here state alot. Not only because Paul Soliai is off the field but because Cam Wake, Koa Misi and Jason Taylor are all great edge setters and excel against the run. In the nickel our reliance shifts from our OLB’s to our inside linebackers who havent consistantly been able to diagnose blocking patterns, get to the outsides and make open field tackles.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

What i think we could do to solve that issue

I think we should change our nickel packege to something similar to what the pats used around 04 and 05. We would have three down lineman (Starks, Soliai, Wake) and three LBers (Misi, Burnett, Dansby), with the SS able to move up into a 4th LB spot.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 30, 2011 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

or take out soliai and put in McDaniel for added pass rush

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by AnishB15 on Oct 30, 2011 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea we have done a good job shiftimg up our looks to try and negate

the effectiveness of teams doing this to us but deception only gets you so far. As fro your idea it has validity but that still leaves Burnett and Dansby with massive responsibilties and opens us up to running inside the tackles, especially against a team liek the Giants.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misi and Dansby could set the edge

Burnett would be in coverage, and he and Bell could help stop the inside run. Wake, Soliai/Starks/McDaniel and Starks/Odrick/Merling could get the inside and andd pass rush

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by AnishB15 on Oct 30, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I liked what I saw from Burnett in coverage on Monday Night against

the Jets when we put him on Keller, however that defense is very susceptible to the run. For one our rotation on the line isnt nearly as good as it looks on paper because Odrick, Merling and Olshansky all struggle against the run.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

have to go to the bar to watch today, and may have to wear a insult proof vest !

but , still going to pull for the win, cuz I don’t know how to cheer for losses ! go fins, win!

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by daytonadolfan on Oct 30, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

This is one of those games that you have to expect a Giants Win

Take a loss with a grain of salt and look for the bright spots as we also root for St. Louis and Indy as we inch towards our shot at Luck.

If we do keep it close and pull it out it will be that much better, but let’s not get ourselves worked up if we lose to a better team on the road.

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by BSerious72 on Oct 30, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Matt Moore will also have to play a great game.

he is going to get hit hit today. The Giants have a ferocious defensive line and they excel in the pass rush on the edges. They have awesome speed and they get up field fast. Moore is going to have to make plays under pressure.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I think JP Losman

May end the game, Moore is going to take a lot of hits.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 30, 2011 12:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Get extra RB's, as soon as we get double digets-down the pass rush will be relentless. Time for "reggie & the screen's" once again!!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

They are obviously going to hard to stop on defense

and we have to play very well on that side of the ball to be with the Giants through four quarters but its also going to be tough sledding on offense.

We have to have a great game on the offensive line. They have an excellent pass rush on the edges and good rotation with JPP, Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora but they also are very good on the interior. Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Linval Joseph and Jimmy Kennedy are all guys who get significant playing time and are hard to move off the line. Mike Pouncey has played very well as a whole in his rookie year but he does make mistakes and their front will capitalize on them. I think Richie Incognito and Vernon Carey have both been fantastic all year up front in the running game and they have to give us oppurtunities today.

Marc Colombo has struggled all season against fast athletic pass rushers and Justin Tuck is as good as they come in this variety. We will give him help but when we dont he has to maintain good balance give us adequate protection on Moores frontside.

Where the Giants have had some problems is in the secondary. Outside of Corey Webster they dont really have any other excellent corners. Marshall, Bess and Hartline have to get seperation and give Moore some help. If we cant beat man coverage looks and get enough seperation Moore will get hit over and over again.

This is doable but we have to play very well.

Go Phins.

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by civwarbuff on Oct 30, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Like the guy from the Giants blog stated

This seems like a trap game for the Giants. In 2007, the Ravens were our trap game, and by all standards, they should have won. We all know how that turned out.

Something about playing in the Meadowlands sets this team on fire. I think Moore finishes out the game, but Garner finishes at RT, where he outplays old boy out of a job.

I expect to see a point where we use both Slaton and Bush on the field at the same time. Idk why, but I see a couple end arounds to Gates as well.

We will see several people playing or coaching for a job next season. Including Nolan,whom if the defense doesnt step up, may not get a second chance at a head coaching gig.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 30, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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