Miami Dolphins Rookies in Review: Mike Pouncey
I've added another story between my Wednesday night posts on prospectivce coaches and my Fantasy Football threads on Friday nights. The nights are becoming a little busier which is great because it means I can keep the evil one, my wife, at bay.
Every Thursday I am going to take a look at one of the rookies and we can analyze how they are doing. Maybe this could be the "feel good" moment for Jeff Ireland if they receive solid reviews before Jeffy boy gets canned. We'll start this off by taking a look at our controversial first round pick, Mike Pouncey. Many people thought a QB such as Colin Kaepernick or a RB like Mark Ingram would be a better selection in the first and thought Jake Kirkpatrick would be a better selection in the second round. Kirkpatrick went on to sign with the Indianapolis Colts as an undrafted free agent and was ultimately released.
I'll preface this by saying the Miami Dolphins offensive line ranks 29th in the NFL in pass protection. Only the Bears, 49ers, and Cardinals rank worse, which should come as a slight surprise because they don't have someone named Marc Colombo on their rosters. The Dolphins are graded much better at run blocking, ranking 10th in the NFL. But this isn't a look at Miami's entire offensive line, this is about Mike Pouncey. So how does he rate?
I happened to be pleased with the selection of Pouncey, so I am pleased to pass along his solid ratings. Pouncey has fared much better than any other offensive lineman on Miami's roster, including Jake Long. Yes, Long hasn't been himself this year, but he's been climbing back up the OT rataings the past two weeks. This isn't about Long though. Pouncey hasn't just been the best offensive lineman for Miami, but he currently ranks 11th in the NFL for centers. It was only a few weeks ago that Pouncey was actually ranked 2nd in the NFL for centers, but he was very poor in run blocking last week against Denver, dropping him down a bit. Still, Pouncey has the ability to make a quick rebound and isn't far behind in points from 3rd place, currently occupied by Nick Mangold.
Pouncey struggled to start the season, giving up 3 of his 6 QB pressures to Vince Wilfork and the New England Patriots in his first NFL start. The following week against Houston, Pouncey has allowed his first NFL sack. That has been the only sack Pouncey has allowed this year. In total, he has surrendered 1 sack, 2 QB hits, and 6 pressures. Half of those numbers came in the first two weeks. Pouncey has also been very good with discipline and is second in the NFL in fewest penalties, only trailing Colts center Jeff Saturday. As for Pouncey's run blocking he is currently tied for 11th in the NFL, but that category too took a sharp fall with a subpar game against Denver. Before then, Pouncey was among the top ten in run blocking. Finally, Pouncey was ranked as the best center in the NFL for his blocking on screen passes, which is not a surprise given his ability to get to the outside fast to set up blocks.
Overall, Pouncey was rated as having one bad game in pass protection when he started the season against New England and he was rated as having two subpar performances in rush blocking against the New York Jets and Denver Broncos. It's not only impressive that Pouncey has overcome a slow start in pass protection to become Miami's steadiest protector, but that he has done it with one of the worst OG tandems in the NFL. Richie Incognito ranks 40th in the NFL out of 70 OGs and Vernon Carey ranks 41st.
Beyond his actualy statistics, Pouncey's job entails him to make the calls for the offensive line, a job that has earned him praise from Long and Tony Sparano. Most people had concerns about Pouncey's history of poor snaps in college, but that has not been a factor for Miami. As I've previously said, scouts have long said Pouncey's snapping problems was considered an easy fix and thus far, it has been a nonissue for him. Pouncey's strength, athleticism, and his ability to pull is a major benefit for Miami. Having centers that can pull is a very good luxury for teams to have when opening up outside lanes. Many may say it'd be more beneficial to have Pouncey at LG and Incognito at center, but the truth is that Incognito wasn't exactly a good center. He was just better than Joe Berger, which doesn't say much. Incognito still ranked below average for a center and his numbers were actually better when he was playing LG, throwing a wrench in the assumed belief Miami would be better off if Pouncey and Incognito swapped positions.
For those keeping track of Mike Pouncey and Maurkice Pouncey to determine the better brother, Mike Pouncey is ranked much higher than his brother so far. Maurkice ranks slightly better in pass protection and has only surrendered 1 sack, 1 QB hit, and 4 pressures. On the flip size, Mike ranks much better in rush blocking. Both of them are very good centers and will be a mainstay for both franchises for the next several years. Even those who didn't like the selection of Pouncey should be satisfied that the two most important positions along the offensive line will be settled for the next decade. Pouncey has lived up to his billing so far and has greatly exceeded the expectations of some of his harshest critics.
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I liked the pick when we made it
Now I love the pick since seeing him actually play. Beyond the 15th pick though, I would like to see a comparison as to how the other picks after him have fared.
Truth is, LT and C are wrapped up for the next 5-10 years. Once we find ourselves a LG, you could say that we would have 4 of the 5 positions on our Oline wrapped up. Because it would allow us to move Incognito back to RG where he belongs.
A closer look would find us only needing a RT after that,and we could see ourselves having one of the best Olines in football. That could also cure our TE situation as we wouldnt need to use Fasano in protection schemes as much.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 27, 2011 9:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The only other rookie center to make any type of impact is Jason Kelce of the Eagles...
He’s been pretty awful and ranks 30th of 36 centers that were ranked.
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Yeah ok scout master
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL...
I should put that in my sig… The Phinsider Scout Master. Though KMB deserves the same title.
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by Finhead83 on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there will be other times, but yeah goahead!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no, i dont just mean centers
I mean the other first round picks,as in terms of pick, for value. Also bang for buck. Idk how to put it,but i mean as far as in their respective positions.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 28, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Excellent read, thanks. Rec'd.
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Another one '83! rec'd!
Luck will do fine behind Pouncy, Long and hopefully the right side of Wisconsin’s O-line.
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 27, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Still don't like the pick,
but it’s good to know Luck will be protected next year.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Sign Ortonimus Prime!
We just need that mental game to cum together, any Oline with the proper mental game looks good!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
We just need that mental game to cum together, any Oline with the proper mental game looks good!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
That picture...
I kinda miss Henne :(
Scratch that.
I miss Henne.
"It was good to get banged and give a few bangs." - Jonathan Cheechoo
"The Gerbil!!"
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
Have we have jimmy comon!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We just need that mental game to cum together, any Oline with the proper mental game looks good!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
Indy has the rites to the first pick as I see it!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Why? Miami plays the weaker schedule....
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"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
Yeah! We suck worse!
lol
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Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 28, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
How is it that we scored more points against common apponents!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He's basing it off the idea if we finish with the same record.
In which case, Indy will probably get the first pick.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Yes lesser points scored more points scored against!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. I see; said the blind man...
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
They look at things like points for & against Duh dont let another tree hit you on the head lol!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL... I've been walking where you naw.
I understand now. (eager Beav)
I may have a monkey that screws people’s ears, but I’m not the Italian on the corner with the organ grinder and monkey.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
Did u say that you need a new hat!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
No. I just wear my cloak.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
The Hudson Hussy!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Fanning Springs Flasher
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
Huh!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not on your Sunday best wood you be eveing considered a Fanny Flasher!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Fanning Springs, FL.
Dude.. do some geography.. of your own state.
Dude.. do some geography.. of your own state.LOL!
Dude.. do some geography.. of your own state.LOL!(and I was flashing wood)
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
YA see Unless a river runs throw it I could care less about Geography, your state, my state, but was does interest me is that wood you be flashing!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
appreciate the break-down of Pouncey, F83
I do not have the time to dig in to stat-lines and rankings myself, and this read was time well spent. pounceys screen blocking rating was a pleasant surprise, but it is no surpise however that the coaches do not take full advantage of this with Bushes’ skill-set for those very type of plays. not to mention the effects of successfully running screen after screen on a defense. surely this would effect the Defenses pass-rush and the D coordinators play calling. i’m sure miami’s next coach will figure it out…
by cdizzy on Oct 28, 2011 12:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah I havent noticed Pouncey which is a good thing
I’ll be honest I didn’t like the pick. I think a RT is more valuable than a Center any day of the week. If we had taken Solder we would have bookend tackles for a decade and a future LT . Thats why we’re Miami and NE is NE
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
I value centers more than RTs.
It’d just be better if our RT wasn’t as effective as a wet paper bag.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Called it!
I knew the snapping issues wouldn’t last long. When Mike was drafted, other Dolphin fans were concerned about it.
Yep.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
I thought the pick was safe.
But I understood the need. Pouncy is good. 16th pick good I dont know but he probably wouldnt have been there in the second. With Long and Pouncy anchoring our OLine I thought we’d be rushing and protecting better by now. Maybe after the Changeover things can improve.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
As it looks there mental preperation is lacking, they them-selves will tell you that there mental game is all good. But you take one look & even you can see!
Anyone thats had there owner fly half way across the country, to see a prospective replacement for your head coach. Will scramble your “reticular atctivating system” & make your mental turn mash-potato!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
One thing you have to understand about the rushing and protecting issues
Is that a lot can be blamed on injuries and a shortened offseason. A lot of changes were made to the offensive line, as a matter of fact, only two remain at their positions from last year.
1. Pouncey was selected number 15 overall to replace Joe Berger. There is one change right there.
2. Vernon Carey was moved to RG from RT position. This is a move I would have rather seen not made. He is still better at RT than our current option, but having to switch weight classes should have had more of an upswing,seeing as he has played most of his time at his current weight anyways.
3. We replaced Carey with a wet paper bag. Scratch that, the wet paper bag would have been more effective. This screams stop gap,but i just wish that we would have had a better option made available.
If I were coach of the team, I would strongly consider moving Carey back to RT, and moving Incognito to RG, where he belongs.
Then, this offseason, I would attempt to keep the same lineup, only replacing whoever we have at LG. This would benefit by doing two things.
1. It would allow our unit to focus on the assignments and allow for less change next year. Giving the rest of the line a familiarity of playing at the same position they would be in next year.
2. It would allow for us to only need to fill one position on the offensive line next year. Left Guard. Seeing as we have Long at Left Tackle getting back to his pre injury form, it would also allow for us to be less than one dimensional on the running aspect. We could then use all three facets: left,middle,right when we run the football.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 28, 2011 11:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know about all that
For one, it’s late to play hot potato with the OL now. Secondly, Carey would still have to be replaced even if we shifted him back. We’d still have holes at LG and RT. Speaking of LG, I don’t think it’d necessarily be guaranteed Incognito is a safe player for next year even if he went back to RG. I’d like to see what he could do, but he’s struggling as well. Maybe Incognito plays well at RG, but we’d still have to look at options for LG and RT.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
At the same time & in the same draft not!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Too late for this season maybe
But it seems we are already playing for next year. Would be nice to have them already accustomed to their positions come the start of next training camp.
As for replacing Carey,we will,bit he is already a stop gap,why not let him be one in a position he is most familiar with. Also note, his replacement is already on the roster, simply on injured reserve atm. Not to mention that Garner will at least be able to be a solid backup.
Incognito is a case where i believe that given time to reaclimate,and secure his spot on the right side of the line, where he wont be asked to pull as much, will recover and play better. If you remember, we had him playing on the right side last year, and he did fairly well until the switch was made.
All in all, I am a fan of bringing Smiley back,and allowing him a chance to play between Pouncey and Long, moving Incognito to the right side, and letting Carey finish out the season until our true RT can get healthy. If anything,it allows us to focus on more important needs until we can actually fill them with a draft pick without hampering our ability to fill more pressing needs.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 28, 2011 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The OL...
For one, Murtha is not a guaranteed starter. He didn’t exactly play well at RT last year when he replaced Carey. Murtha doesn’t exactly make me feel all comfortable if he is our starter.
Incognito isn’t pulling much as a LG and is still ranked 40th in the NFL for OGs, only a single spot ahead of Carey. He’s also playing next to perhaps the league’s best LT, making his job easier since he’s not pulling. is he better suited for the right side? Traditionally, yes. That doesn’t mean he’ll be good there.
Incognito started at LG and C last year. He only played some snaps at RG and he didn’t exactly play good at C or LG. Even though people thought he played better, he ranked best at LG. It’s just a testament of how bad Joe Berger really was.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Indy is just Quiting cuz it will be in there favor too also do so!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody blames Indy for sucking too since they have Peyton out...
On a side note, I noticed this article was posted on to ESPN. I think I feel a little bit of pride in me, but that may also be some gas. Darn Wawa and their hoagies. Yep, it was just gas.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Do you see just how fradule a superbowl team can be!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dont go 16-0 God forbid yuor head might explode & you turn into New England!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Finhead FARTED!
run away
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
I'm too low to the ground Gas rizes!
wopper "the king" computer
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK, I understand the beaver is very close to the ass hole....
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
You loong legged galoot beavs arnt 25inch, & thats standing on our hind legs which we rearly do!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Alpha only meant you were close to Nicky’s ass.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Roflmao
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
That be a big lie, weed likely ever let a human get within 50 feet of us at any given time!
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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 28, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a souvenir I would like to give you.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Stained underwear go to Enhalen's address....
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
Just one more reason to grade Tony an F-
This guy is an OLine guru? For the last two seasons our OLine has been our second weakest point. Shortened season or not, injuries or not, every team went through the lockout. Tony’s tinkering only made matters worse.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
by CanT0o on Oct 29, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this^^^^ rec!
wopper "the king" computer
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 29, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Where did you come by those statistics? I believe them but I was wanting to look up other stats.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
PFF
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Thanks
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Oct 28, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well at least we have 2 stud O linemen
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