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The Miami Dolphins showcase their organizational incompetence once again

Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross might be the dumbest smart guy in the country - or, at least, in the public eye.

Perhaps "dumb" isn't the right word. Maybe "naive" would better describe Ross. However you want to describe him, though, one thing is clear. He is at the top of the organizational chart for what has become the most incompetent franchise in the National Football League.

You would have thought Ross had learned his lesson last year.

We all remember the debacle that was the botched pursuit of then Stanford head coach Jim Harbaugh just ten months ago - a situation that wouldn't have been the black eye that it was to this franchise if the team didn't already have a head coach under contract. That mess resulted in an awkward media gathering that featured not only a denial from Stephen Ross that he had pursued another head coach while the position within the organization was filled, but that also included the announcement of Tony Sparano's contract extension.

Here we are just ten months removed from that display of organizational ineptitude and yet again we're facing a nearly identical situation - and one that could result in far greater consequences than the previous fiasco.

A number of reports have surfaced over the past twenty four hours that claim the Miami Dolphins are contacting Bill Cowher on some level to essentially gauge his interest in the head coaching position of the Dolphins - a position that is currently filled. But I guess that small detail has never stopped Stephen Ross in the past.

Barry Jackson does point out that neither Ross or any actual team officials have contacted any potential head coaches because "Ross is careful about conducting a coaching search the right way after he was criticized in January for meeting with then Stanford head coach Jim Harbaugh with Tony Sparano still employed." However, Jackson adds that his source wouldn't be surprised if an associate of Ross "reached out indirectly to Cowher."

Jason Cole, meanwhile, goes one step further by saying that Cowher's CBS analyst partner by the name of Dan Marino has informed Dolphins management that Cowher is geared up for a return to coaching. Cole cites "two sources in and around the team." Mike Freeman uses the term "intermediaries for the Miami Dolphins" in his report regarding the Dolphins and their pursuit of Bill Cowher.

Star-divide

All of these leaks come just a week after reports surfaced that the Dolphins have warned all team employees that their cell phone records could be reviewed by the team for evidence of information leaks to the media. I have since independently confirmed this very piece of information. The Dolphins really did inform team employees that their phone records could be seized by the team if they suspected any team official of providing leaks of any information to the media.

As if we really needed more damning proof of this organization's complete incompetence.

So what's the big deal if the Dolphins really have "unofficially" reached out to Bill Cowher or any other potential head coaching candidates?

Earlier this year, it was reported by league insiders that some of the top head coaching candidates would be closely monitoring potential destinations to see how ownership and management handled their particular situations. The logic behind that was simple - to see the true colors of their potential employers. The concern here is that a mishandled coaching search could result in any potential head coaching candidate simply using the Dolphins for leverage in contract negotiations with other teams while having no real desire to coach in Miami because of the lack of loyalty and integrity within the Dolphins organization.

More importantly, though, could be the potential impact on landing the offseasons top prize - Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck. Everybody is well aware that the Dolphins are very much in the hunt for the first overall pick. But as we've seen in the past, locking up the top pick doesn't necessarily land you the top player. Just look at the scenarios that played out in the past in regards to John Elway and Eli Manning.

The concern regarding Luck is obvious. What if the kid decides he doesn't want join the circus that is the Miami Dolphins? What if he decides to force his way out of this mess in Miami rather than come here as a savior and try to help clean it up?

You don't think his father and former NFL quarterback Oliver Luck - who is a former teammate of Archie Manning, by the way - might try to whisper in his son's ear to avoid this situation in Miami? Could you really blame Oliver if he did?

There's still a long road ahead, one that will likely be filled with many twists and turns, before we know how all of this will play out. But Dolphins fans cannot sit here right now and be happy with what is going on in Davie.

This is an ugly situation right now - one which has been created and then proliferated by absolute incompetence within the organization from the very top on down to the coaches and players on the field.

The dysfunction is obvious. The tension is palpable.

And it's only October.

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Glad to see another post from you Matty

This team is an absolute embarrassment, every week they find a new way to make us disappointed. We still have 3 months to go in the season before we get any clear answer as to what’s going to happen to this team, and 10 more games to suffer through.

by Maguss on Oct 26, 2011 5:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent update Matty and wb

It was a sad read though. Harbaugh using the Dolphins as leverage made sense. I mean, what premier coaching candidate would want to be associated with such an inept organization? I don’t think money is going to matter when we look for Tony’s replacement. The Sparano fiasco and subsequent free rein of Ireland, the questionable hiring of Daboll, Dorrell and the rest has labelled this owner as naive at the least, duplicitous at worst. Maybe Ross had an agenda when he set Tony up for failure, who knows.

I suppose the reason behind Ross keeping Tony around as long as he has is because he wants to project the appearance of some sort of loyalty rather than dump him in midseason.

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by CanT0o on Oct 26, 2011 6:07 AM EDT reply actions  

" However, Jackson adds that his source wouldn't be surprised if an associate of Ross "reached out indirectly to Cowher"

So. someone Ross knows asked someone that Cowher knows if he thought he might be interested in coaching next year? Aside from a problem with a leak, I fail to see the big deal here. And if firing Sparano after a THIRD sub-par (bordering on disastrous) season shows a lack of loyalty, then I must be the least loyal guy on th eplanet, casue I would have fired him last year…

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by Brantner78 on Oct 26, 2011 6:07 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Isn't funny how the press (& Matty, btw) want to trumpet how big this deal is

and then go on to say how bad said information may be to the Phins future?
I agree, no news here.

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Oct 26, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed ^^^ B78

Ross seems plenty loyal to his coach to me.. as far as keeping Sporono after the “Hargaugh fiasco”, what should he have done?? hire a lesser-known to fill in until someone with more credentials can be found. Maybe Brian Cox coulda stepped in as coach, I mean just look at the job he’s done with the Pass- Rush..lol

by cdizzy on Oct 26, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Credibleaty is all you want ?

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree here

I’m not seeing the potential ramifications here. Back channel reach-outs happen all the time, whether coaches/players are under contract or not. This just happened to be public. And while you never want that to happen, there’s nothing Ross can do to prevent it outside of placing his whole staff under 24h surveillance. I doubt the ramifications of this leak would be a deciding factor in Luck joining or going if selected.

What people tend to forget here is that while this FO is a circus at the moment, and has been for a few years, this is not particularly unusual for any team lowly enough to select #1 overall. Any team with the worst record in football is likely to experience any one of:

1. Lame duck coach/Front Office
2. Players that quit
3. Fans that turn against the organization
4. Leaks and rumors from "sources’ within the organization

Miami happens to be on the firing block because of a few unfortunate incidents, like the Harbaugh affair, but on aggregate, I don’t see anything too unusual. At the end of the day, we’re still a big market, low taxed, great climate, big media team with a storied past, and most coaches/players would probably love to come here and be the ones to lead a new generation out of incompetence.

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by zeusmith on Oct 26, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

This is not news. Who cares if they approached BC. Actually thx for doing it, we need a breath of fresh air here in Mia. and a new coach and FO is needed bad at least he wants to move on from Sparano and Ireland

by efthejets on Oct 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Limbo Land

The problem, Matty is that everyone conected witht the Dolphins is in` Limbo Land` We all know change is coming, how far reaching that change is remains to be seen. So for the fans its `suck for luck ` (but deep down we really want wins!!!!!) For the players its `when is the change coming?` though as Amando points out in the Herald players should be playing for their places (though some may be looking for an `out` right now) For the HC its `how much do I put into this as I may not be here next week?` For Ireland its how do I keep my job? Ross hasa problem too. Does he boot Tony now and risk a sudden upsurge in fortunes and miss out on top 2/3 QB prospects or stick till end of season and get no 1 pick but struggle to attract coach because we are even worse than the Colts?
A number of media articles are talking about (unofficially) reaching out to Cowher and tracking Gruden and Fisher. But we still have a head coach, so its time to act! DO the decent thing for Tony, and let him go. Appoint a temp head coach and make it clear that is all that is hapening and make a public statement that its the organisation`s aim to bring in anew regime next January regardles of where we finish.

by Christopher Weetman on Oct 26, 2011 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I disagree totally! If I was the owner I would be doing the same thing that Ross is doing!

An owner has the right to find out what coaching talents are available any freaking time he wants. As a fan I am glad he is being proactive about contacting who ever the he’ll is out there, Those are called “Options” . If Sparano had done a good a good enough job this season, then Ross wouldn’t be exploring this field of options.

I think yall need to get the fuck over it, and allow the owner to try to sell some tickets…

At least he is not calling plays from the owners suite like some owners do. ( Sorry Al and Jerry, but I had to go there!)…..

GO DOLPHINS!

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by Dolphinator on Oct 26, 2011 6:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

God R U there

please let this be true!!! i dont care how incompetent Ross is, if he can land THE Chin we will eventually field a team we wont be embarrassed about! Go ahead Mr Ross make an ass out of yourself and recruit Cowher!

by ADRIELSDAD on Oct 26, 2011 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I agree. I think the first go around with Harbough was a little uncalled for considering the team hadn’t played a down yet. However, this go around is totally just. We have a team that is struggling mightly, and therefore the head coach ALWAYS gets thrown into the hot seat. Also we don’t have a head coach worth promoting. Some may argue Nolan, but Nolan’s defense is a big reason why we’re winless. He hasn’t done anything to deserve a promotion IMO.

However, I have a feeling a more “flashy” team could steal Gruden or Cowher away. It’s reported that Jim Caldwell could be fired as well. Which means if Manning comes back, who wouldn’t want to pick the Colts over the Dolphins? Now the Colts have more problems than just Manning being out, but living in Indiana I can FINALLY say TOLD YA SO to all the Colts fans who thought their defense was absolutely stout all those years. No, Manning can just controll the clock and keep your defense off the field as much as possible. It’ll be interesting to see.

/I like Sparano. I think he seems like a nice dude. But I want someone with some fire in their belly. Someone who is going to grab Marshall by the face mask, get in his face, and tell him to get his head out of his ass. Maybe Bo Pelini is a “up and coming” guy we could keep our eye on and throw into the mix as well. IDK if he could preform at the NFL level, but he sure brings that firey hard ass mentality that I think this Dolphins team needs. I mean we don’t lack talent. We lack discipline. I’d be willing to be majority of us would be tickled pink if Belichek was our HC. I think we’d be over .500 right now, even with Matt Moore.

by Jared Maier on Oct 26, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

This^

The part where you talk about getting in the face of Marshall is exactly what this entire team needs

by Clinton O on Oct 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

I’m personally glad we are looking at Cowher. I think he’s a good coach and reaching out to him makes sense when the season is going this badly. I also am glad to see a fan say that Sparano is a nice guy but has lost control of his players. I know we are losing and the season is frustrating, but the spilling forth of hate is a little much; I’d like to see Sparano removed with a bottle of bubbly saying thanks for 2008 and sorry it didn’t work out. Then we can hopefully bring in a coach that has some street cred to change the culture around here. I also think that Miami is the best worst team out there right now; we have some good players and don’t get blown out. What we need is consistency from our team; players playing focused the whole game and finishing teams off when they get a lead. Here’s to that happening sooner rather than later!

Football is back!

by Dakota Phan on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bring in Cowher!

Colts where perennial losers before they got Payton. New England losers till they landed Bledsoe and hit the lottery with Brady. I don’t blame Ross at all with trying to get a jump start on the next HC of the Dolphins. We all know Sparano is gone. Ireland most likely is gone also if Cowher comes aboard. A strong HC and use a top pick on a franchise QB. I think Luck will have no issues coming to a team with Cowher as the HC. But is Ireland and Sparano are still here then he just might pull an Eli! If Luck still don’t want to play then trade the Pick to the team that he wants in the top 3-4 picks and land another QB!

by Douglas M. Scalzo on Oct 26, 2011 7:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd agree with you Matty.....

But there’s not a person in the entire world, who follows the Dolphins (and many that don’t), who doesn’t already know that Sparano is on borrowed time running this team.

As for as the ineptitude of the front office. That’s not necessarily Stephen Ross’ fault. It happens in every organization, and with a situation like ours it only gets amplified that much more. Ross doesn’t need to hide the fact he’s going to go after Cowher. That’s practically a given at this point. I will say however that the leaks we’ve had lately probably aren’t as likely with a Cowher run organization. Which is the most likely scenario I see playing out.

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by luvs2drnk on Oct 26, 2011 7:23 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Incompetence?

You must not have noticed the J.P. Losman signing – we’re Super Bowl bound now! (rolling my eyes)

by Dolfan Lee on Oct 26, 2011 7:28 AM EDT reply actions  

In a related story...

sources say Miami Dolphins executives roam the halls at team headquarters and communicate by uttering the phrases “derp” and “duuuhhhh.” There was no word as to whether any of them had been drooling.

by Dolfan Lee on Oct 26, 2011 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I heard "dooooh!" once....

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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno about the rest of you but my want for wins isnt running that deep, its right on top

If there are rules that have been broken by what Ross has been accused of, then i say lay the wood to him. if not, i would find out who might be interested by any means not against
NFL policy. As for JP, hes a bargain basement guy, Ross has informed Ireland that no contracts will be extended, no deals/trades made with any current contracted players until the end of the season. then is all under review by the new guys who ever that is.

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by smokinjoe699 on Oct 26, 2011 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Just to clarify a point here...

It’s not that I feel Tony Sparano should not be fired. He absolutely should be. The problem is how Ross is going about this situation….again.

All eyes are on this organization to see how they go about their business. And they continually come off looking totally incompetent. I mean – this organization can’t even execute a proper gag order. It’s unreal.

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by Matty I on Oct 26, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Sparano should be fired, but there's a proper way to go about things

…and Mr. Ross doesn’t have a clue about how to do it the right way.

I couldn’t agree with you more, Matty. These types of things makes the organization, as a whole, look like the laughing stock of the NFL. Good post, as always, sir.

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by DolphinNation on Oct 26, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

I kind of miss Huizenga. Ross has a lot to learn…

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marty u need to take time out of the week for 1 post

Then I’ll actually read the phinsider more, only reason I read it today was cuz of your tweet. I google search "miamidolphins"news and you know what articles come up…? The phinsiders right at the top, before even the Miami Herald and Palm beach post most of the time…. And it’s Matty that got this site there and helped put SBnation on the map, sadly Mosul you’ve lost me, but I won’t go there
…..Sadly I’ll I look forward to is Omar Kelly’s tweets

by Clinton O on Oct 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Please learn the difference between a fan post and a fan shot before posting.

by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect...

That was move made by a witty poster, but I won’t go there.

I think we should make “but I won’t go there” into a phrase we see in many threads. I should try to post that in my next article tomorrow…

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some things should be left to die right where they are.

Please learn the difference between a fan post and a fan shot before posting.

by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're a party pooper, but I won't go there...

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Bring it! Scared?

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not scared. I think you're just bluffing, but I won't go there...

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has his ways of bullying !

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL I bully?

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah say something real jerkish and rude then say, “oh but I won’t go there…”

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Oct 26, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

very douche!

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Oct 26, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd expect as much from someone named Clinton....

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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 27, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steven Ross is killing this organization

With every passing day, Steven Ross shows his naivety. Whether it was with J Harbaugh, The Gator Fiasco and now his handling of Tony S. Fire the poor guy. Put him out of his misery. Lets have an interim coach and then he can openly interview for next year. IMHO, Jeff I is equally to blame.
My concern now is that potential high quality candidates may be turned off by this owner. Also, why all this talk about Cohwer and Gruden. We know coach retreads have a terrible track record. Also, NOONE goes to a game to see a coach. Look at Green Bay, and Atlanta. They both have young active aggressive GM and coaches. What is worse is that the Dolphins had the inside track to sign the GM from Green Bay and didn’t and Atlanta wanted to get Parsells and the Dolphins got the Big Tuna. We screwed up with both decisions!!!

by DAVEBUCK on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

you are correct sir

good point on the young aggressive coach and GM – we need stability in the coaching and head office staff. This revolving door crap is getting old.

by incognito1948 on Oct 26, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get why people are mad at Ross

He was too late last year asking Jim if he wanted the job. Does anyone still think Ross was wrong to go after Jim after the amazing job tony is doing??? Ross hasn’t done anything wrong. He’s stepped out of the way and opened up his wallet to let the “Brains of this regime do there job” and that’s all we can ask for from an owner. Now he has to start looking for TS replacement. What’s wrong with getting a head start? Might as well get the word out now and not wait until its too late like last time. Everyone knows our incompetent coach is going to get the pink slip.

If luck doesn’t want to play for Miami oh well. We draft him and trade him away. That way we can acquire more draft picks.

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Oct 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

What's wrong with getting head start?

Nothing- as long you are up front. If you know you are going fire Sparano- just do it. It’s not good business- it’s not good on any level. You think this will be a coveted job if Ross keeps sneaking around behind whomever is the current coach?

I’ll agree with Matty about maybe Luck doesn’t want to come to SoFla, and I’ll take it a step further- if I am Cowher, Gruden, Fisher, or anyone else mentioned in the HC search, I have got to scratch my head about how things are being run and wonder if I really want to get in to that situation.

Fire Sparano and Ireland ASAP. Then hire Peterson as President- or someone someone who has SOME clue about football operations, thjen take the HC/GM search from there. Ross might be able to get away with this behavior in the business world, but sports media is too plugged in for these kinds of things to fly under the radar.

by NumberSeven on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is no point in hiring an interim coach unless you plan to have him be your coach next year. The big names aren’t going to come in as interim coaches. So why fire TS now??? There is no point. But there are reason to start looking at what’s available.

If luck doesn’t want to come to Miami Ross won’t be the reason why. Other factors would be at play if that happens. Ross wouldn’t be one of them.

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by 54 on Oct 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree almost with everything you said. (except your handle, “54” – which is awesome, btw)

Having a lame duck coach is not a good situation to be in for anybody. Unless Ross is buying into “Suck for Luck.” And Ross IS a lot of the reason the things are they way they are right now in Miami, so yes- he would be the reason if Luck decides he doesn’t want to be part of the dysfunction.

But, agree to disagree, I guess.

by NumberSeven on Oct 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matty is right.

Once again this is being handled wrong. Just because Sparano’s job is for sure gone, but that does not mean the search for his replacement should be a top story on Espn.

There are such things as MANNERS, CLASS, and RESPECT. Ross is clearly lacking in those.

by Mustang920 on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

There is also something called Conceding

Conceding that you have failed to lead a decent football to any kind of success, better yet just improvement. Sparano needs to man up and resign and let every player prove under new leadership that they deserve a roster spot next season.

Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW

by fin4three5yrs on Oct 26, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know the rules of his contract

but I would guess that if he resigns he doesn’t get the payout and if he gets canned he gets the remaining guaranteed money on his contract (I would guess a few million). I think resigning would cause Mrs. Sparano to permanently make him sleep in the doghouse.

Football is back!

by Dakota Phan on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most every company out there will search for replacements before they fire a guy. I realize that it is not the norm to do

things that way in the NFL but Ross comes from the business world.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Q. is there som-one with enuff intellagence to get the ball rolling on our phinsider site?!?

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you asking me beaver? We have no lack of intelligence here (not to say that some do not lack it) but

not sure what you are asking for.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we contain the intell to turn said team around or do we ride this year out!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do belive you get my drift, hunkr down & wait!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not like we have a lot of choice.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh we got lots of choices, i'm planing on getting sum popcorn & watching the fireworks at the end of the season.

My beer is always cold!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you keep the entire pond ice cold?

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well at night youed think there was a power-sourse!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your power is mysterious.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

More over to a fault, but mind power is all conjecture untill applyed!

Mental block is a constant downer!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think of Beaver as that fat dude from Beerfest...

His pond is full of alcohol. He just drinks as he swims.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

swimming does keep it trim at least to a minnimum!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am being nice!

Wouldn’t you want a pond full of beer? If I had a watering hole full of Jack Daniels I would never leave! We could all be alcoholics, but I won’t go there…

On a side note, I think you just added me to your own manifesto, but again… I won’t go there!

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes your on it but you are only there to assist.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the assistants always get knocked off so the mastermind can get away with it...

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Ross is a dingle-berry

but for different reasons than the head coaching situation!!

I don’t like him because he is hesitant and spends his time worrying about minority owners and flashy flashiness that flashes rather than worrying about football. He hasn’t proven to me that he deserves the title “accomplished business-man.” He looks a little bit more like an idiot that just happened to be a the right place at the right time and happened into a situation where a shit-ton of money was made (and then he decided, “man, what should I do with all of this money? hey, I’m gonna buy a football team….that will pass the time!”

And where is Mike Dee in all of this? Isn’t he supposed to be the “genius” that resurrected the Boston Redsox? Shouldn’t he have some knowledge about how to “run” or “manage” a professional sports franchise? Why is Ross the only one under the microscope? He might be the victim of bad advice from “expert advisers!”

I HOPE that Ross is learning from his mistakes! Maybe Matty is right and this is another blunder. Or, maybe this is just how this works. I am sure that there have been plenty of instances in the history of the NFL in which owners have looked for coaching candidates while having a coach under contract. It just seems unrealistic to assume otherwise.

Me thinks this “don’t look for a coach while you have one under contract” business is just an over-blown, media-driven criticism designed to create controversy where there is none.

What is more, I do not feel sorry for a guy (like TS) that just spent the last four years doing what he loves (albeit, badly) and getting paid millions of dollars in the process. He is going to be fired and it makes sense to start looking for new candidates regardless of whether Ross has fired TS or not.

I do agree with you though Matty (even if I think you come dangerously close to basically warning coaches and players not to come here) and I hope that Ross doesn’t screw this up as well.

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by jepurv on Oct 26, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Sup Cuz?

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the new Uncle Finster?

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even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross knows he'll have to hand the keys to the franchise over to get Cowher...

for Cowher that would be the “right situation”. Just don’t give him one of those BS “Parcells”-escape clauses. This will be a non-story for a while and then making a huge comeback in January.

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Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Argh..Here we go again....no coach or player now sees Miami as a destination to go to..

who would want to come to Miami to play or coach,when they can see what its gonna be like?..IMO, we are going to end up with another prospect coach with litle coaching experience..and the top drafts, and FA are going to want to play anywher but Miami…The trick is how to allure people back to Miami?…free ice cream cones at the end of the game?

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by zero13 on Oct 26, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Heh heh heh!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not quite sure you understand the meaning of the term "on the bright side".

Unless of course you meant to place that in the sarcasm box.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lawsuit hands R still in pocket!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. Did that dude die? Thats brutal looking.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He actually got up and walked away.

When I first saw the video, I think they said he only had minor injuries, maybe only bruises.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats amazing. Assuming that was a semi tire it should have killed him.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unlike Clinton...

The tire went there…

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmfao!

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even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but he was tired after....

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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah retreads they all have there place!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot stop watching this...

This might be the funniest goddamn video I have ever seen…

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like bowling for people...

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

If you were aiming for the guy, you couldnt hit him any better than that….

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 26, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only wish we could find a QB as accurate as that tire...

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol

Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!

by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 26, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 26, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brantner back when my first CKC's ever started there was sum simular to the tire insadent where this gas station colasp on a vehical i mean i could not tack my eyes off this car & the occupant dead at the sceen!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think?

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could not take my eyes off the car hit the post of the gas-station & the front of the car disaperried!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This entire "Nobody will come to Miami now" motion.

I don’t like this news because I do believe it hurts our chances of getting Cowher. He has said before he will not speak with teams who currently employ a Head Coach and he has tremendous respect for NFL coaches so this can easily piss him off.

Now, for everyone else not wanting to come to Miam, I just don’t buy it. The big one would be Andrew Luck, who people fear could pull an Eli Manning/John Elway douche move and decide he doesn’t want to play for Miami. I don’t think Miami is necessarily on the “black list.” Miami is still a good market team and is not in the small class of Buffalo or Jacksonville. They’re a bit dysfunctional, but their level doesn’t compare yet to those of Oakland, Cincy, or Washington. Yes, you could say he doesn’t want to go to a crap team, but what other situation would he be in where he’s surrounded by superior players? Indy? They have little talent other than Peyton and it shows. STL? They have Sam Bradford thank you very much and they are a more unsettled franchise than Miami. Minnesota? Franchise in question with no lease beyond this year and we’ll see about Ponder. Are they getting a new stadium or is Wilf interested in selling the team to an LA-based owner? Arizona? They’re known to be perhaps the cheapest NFL franchise out there.

So go ahead and think there aren’t worse locations for a player to go to, but when you put Miami’s flaws under too large of a microscope, you tend to forget all the flaws the rest of the NFL teams have that will be in the “Suck for Luck” sweepstakes. We have our problems, but we’re not at the bottom of the NFL in terms of dysfunction… yet. Could Luck do an Eli/Elway move? Yes. But I think the chances are even slimmer that he’d do such a move to get out of Miami. With Cowher, I see no chance Luck refuses to go to Miami. Without Cowher, I still think the chance is over 50% Luck goes to Miami if they have the pick and that would especially be the case if they have another high profile coach or at least an offensive minded coach.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

good point

I agree with your last paragraph but just don’t think Cower will coach Miami.

by incognito1948 on Oct 26, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will if given what he wants.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats like saying you'd sleep with Rosie Odonnell if paid enough...would you?...

just maybe?…

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by zero13 on Oct 26, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well lets just say he on my bucket list!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure,just puttin' it out there...Rosie lover!...

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by zero13 on Oct 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thumb & 4 daughters!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I sleep on top of the covers...

And with ear plugs?

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

just use her sausage -like fingers for earplugs!!

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by zero13 on Oct 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heck no...

There is probably 3-week old ketchup under her greasy fingernails.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a hole for everyone!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must roll her in flour to find wet spot....

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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Miami is the LA of the east coast. It’s a great place to blow up in. I put in my top 3 as far as big cities to live it up in so I don’t think people would hate to come here, especially with what Miami has with the heat and etc.,

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Oct 26, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And no income tax!

That’s why I’m still a Florida resident living in NJ. That and I struggle to ever claim NJ…

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon, fist pump with me....

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 26, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait. What?!!

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL! Come out to the west coast son, you’d love this weather. This is the best weather in the country. Well here and San Diego.

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a jersey thing....

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 27, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Jersey thing with numbers, well 2 anyway!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

FYI

Nobody in any universe anywhere doesn’t already know that Sparano is as good as fired right now. It is not in any way surprising – let alone controversial – that Ross is looking for another coach. What’s surprising to most people is that Sparano still has a job.

Furthermore, I am always amused that people can only point to 2 out of the last 29 first draft picks that held out for different teams – one of whom was already playing pro baseball, and the other had a famously big-headed father who had already another #1 draft pick QB in the family, and somehow conclude that Luck is likely to hold out.

As pointed out previously, there isn’t another team he can go to which could afford his asking price that isn’t just as dysfunctional (or moreso) as the Dolphins.

by PNSter on Oct 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Bill cowher had dinner with Jeffrey Laurie the owner of the Philadelphia Eagles a few days ago in New York City, reportedly to gauge his interest , nothing was offered or intended, Laurie was just gauging cowher's interest

An employees of the restaurant who wanted to remain nameless, confirmed the 2 were there and had dinner…. Looks like Miami might have some competition!

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Sunny Miami vs. the city of Brotherly Shove? I take Miami all day every day.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

U would think right?!

Philly can be very enticing though, if u win a super bowl here, you’ll own the city for the rest of ur life

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No they will still find a way to hate you.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

They hate everyone... trust me.

Besides, I don’t think Cowher will be in Philly. In fact, I say the chance is over 50% that Reid stays at least another year.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The eagles front office has been stripping Andy Reid's responsibilities a little every year for the last couple seasons.

It used to be that Reid had control of all personnel decisions and drafting, not anymore and the fans are “occupying” across the street to the nova care complex to get him fired. Most people are tired of him and just wan something new. I agree it’s still 60-40 especially after that huge win against the redskins, but if the eagles get destroyed by Dallas and go on to finish the season 6-10, they might just make the move. However I think they will finish 8-8 and Reid stays, but having dinner with cowher doesn’t help Reid any….

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reid has been turning over responsibilities willingly as well. He's done that since 2006.

And those fans that were “occupying” across the street consisted of a husband and wife. They walked away when approached by players as well. Not exactly a movement brewing.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

They think I’d be some solitary crazy dude because Nicky wouldn’t be tall enough to be see over the fence. Maybe if I can take Alpha or dare I even say, Bacon, I may have a little more success.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can get one of those back pack sort of things to carry him in like in Mad Max BT.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if I hold him like a ventriloquist doll?

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now your just being weird.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 27, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Double sided coin here!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Touche!

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by texascowpunk on Oct 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I have had to take a grand total of 5 trips to PA. None of them were pleasant and if you are nice or

simply show common courtesy to folks up there they look at you like your an alien.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Common courtest in Philly is using a clean, sharp knife to stab someone.

The ***holes use dirty old knives.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL I don't doubt it.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, yeah that's the difference between the south and the northeast, I'll give u a good example

Anywhere else in the country, if u get on an elevator with strangers, theyll start conversing and introduce themselves and it’s very friendly and cordial….if u try to talk to a stranger in an elevator in Philly or NY, they look at u like ur a crazy person and avoid u. Ppl don’t say hi to each other up here, when u pass by someone u don’t nod or say hello, it comes off as rude and cold to outsiders and especially southerners who are very freindly. but it’s because there’s so many weirdos and crazy people up here, it’s more to avoid ppl and confrontations.

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've lived all over the country

and that has never happened on any elevator I have ever been on in my life.

Anywhere else in the country, if u get on an elevator with strangers, theyll start conversing and introduce themselves and it’s very friendly and cordial

You’re thinking of Tupperware parties.

by PNSter on Oct 26, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Yeah thats a good point. You might get an uncomfortable grin.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 27, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

Allen iverson is beloved- because he wore his heart on his sleeve and went all out on the court

Buddy Ryan, Reggie white, Jerome brown, Randall Cunningham, brian dawkins, dick vermeil, mike Schmidt, all beloved.

Mcnabb was hated because he would always make an excuse and was too " corporate",

Philly can be brutal and definately has its knuckleheads but if u were ur heart on ur sleeve and have a blue collar mentality, you’ll be worshipped.

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes i remember This one radio anoncer garenteeing the world that McNabb wood not win a superbowl there!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can not stand players that make excuses.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 26, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even Vermeil has some critics

Many were turned off that he turned down an offer to return to the Eagles in 1994 and later came back with the Rams.

Fans started getting turned off by AI as well after Larry Brown left. AI was late for practice and fan events and ultimately demanded to be traded, which helped turn some of the fanbase against him.

There are still plenty that like Vermeil and AI, but there are just as many that turned against them. The fanbase will fall in love with their players, but they are very quick to turn against them as well. Just ask Jimmy Rollins and Ryan Howard who have been witnessing the Philly fanbase starting to turn against them.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Howard is soft and the Philly fanReese him as the baseball version of mcnabb, plus theyre still annoyed at that comment he made,

He said that if he played in his home town of st Louis, they would appreciate him more. R u f’n kidding me?, could u imagine a dolphin player saying that especially if they were sucking at the time? Every other kid, man, even women have a Rollins or Howard shirt, don’t believe the hype, they’re still At the top of the list in Philly, however Howard better learn to take those sliders away , he’s about as clutch as a-rod right now. As for j-roll, he wants and deserves a pay raise and will likely have to get it somewhere else, but if and when he returns he will get a standing ovation, just like iverson did.

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

*sees

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do believe the hype

I’m in the Philly market and am in Philly quite a bit. Howard isn’t hated because of any comments he made, but because his numbers have fallen for this year and he has a large contract. Since the Phillies’ season came to a premature ending in the eyes of the fans, they have been quite disappointed about their season and many of their players have taken their anger out on numerous players, including Rollins and Howard. Now all of a sudden Howard’s strikeouts are a problem.

They’ve been hating on Rollins and Brown since May. They were the ones thinking of a Howard/Pujols trade in July. They were ready to punch out from a few players early in the season and since their season ended without a World Series Championship, it has been even worse.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. the city of Brotherly Shove is perfect them fools compete with Boston and New York in regards to rudeness and overall rash behavior.

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Oct 26, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, I am not reading any scathing reports about that dinner...

So let me get this straight: Miami does something other franchises are doing, yet we are the ones mocked for it? SHOCKING!!!

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 26, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well said!

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by Kevin Nogle on Oct 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may be missing something, but why is this a big deal?

Ross hasn’t even talked to Cowher yet. Ross’s buddies talked to Cowher’s buddies and that’s all we know. For Christ sake simply because we are a crappy team this year doesn’t mean no player wants to play for us, and no big name coach wants to coach for us. We are victims of a bad product but history shows us that we’ll bounce back. We’re not the first or the only ones in this position.

by Kellenman08 on Oct 26, 2011 12:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Great article,

terrible news. Thanks for the appearance in such dismal times, Matty.

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by joel311 on Oct 26, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i ate dinner where Ross once ate...so, its obvious..I'm gonna be the next coach!!!

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by zero13 on Oct 26, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow we suck...thanks for reminding me Matty lol

BRING ON THE CHIN!!!

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by Ben Bacon on Oct 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad to say this is what society as whole has to deal with. This scene is just playing out on a Team we all Love.

Just hire me. I’ll clean this mess up. LOL. When your in a hole quit digging people. SMH. I’m not as down on Ross as most people. He has been given people for the most part he did not hire. Look. Other than OFF4L, Ross is living the dream. I think he wants to show up hand out checks and watch his team win. An he doesn’t care how much those checks are as long as they are earned. He is going to have to get his hands dirty here sooner or later. So he better choose wisely on the next hires for this team.

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by FinFanFromCA on Oct 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

My Thoughts...

OK….Assuming Ross can’t or won’t sell to another billionaire with more sense….this is what I see…

Hey Sparano…you’re a nice guy, I’m sure…but not the coach for this team. Buh-bye.
OK…Nolan…stop quivering….you’re interim head coach….here’s your chance to ‘wow’ me…
You…you with the clipboard….what is it you do? Oh…offensive coordinator….I’m watching you.
Oh and Mr. Ireland….you may hand in your pass at the end of the season.

Now…let’s look for a coach…openly…

And players….play hard, and run like you stole something…winners get a contract for next season.

See Mr. Ross…not all that hard at all!

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by cordy_1971 on Oct 26, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Ross better watch it.

If the Dolphins screw up with the coaching and screw up with Andrew Luck? Well, might as well move into the Marlins New Stadium, because they won’t even be able to sell 40,000 tickets.

by hbkDolphins on Oct 26, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

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by jepurv on Oct 26, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Mcdaniels

Ross going after cowher is thw same mistake all over again.thw only big name coach I would come close to considering is fisher. No super bowl ring.

by Jack Zullo on Oct 26, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

So you'd rather go with a guy that has coached 15+ years without a ring than a coach who has coached 15+ years with a ring?

I don’t mind if you think Fisher is the better coach, but why would you think Cowher is not based on “the same mistake” and Fisher is not. You need clariying young grasshopper…

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will happen as more coaches decide to come back

I think the only reason it didn’t happen before is because we didn’t see too many coaches retire and then come back years later until maybe a decade ago. Bill Parcells and Dick Vermeil were the big names that ended up making the move, but Parcells didn’t win (he got there) and Vermeil never won with his first team. As coaches move more often, it will happen, and it will probably be sooner than later.

Otherwise, if Bill Belichick quit New England tomorrow or Mike Smith flipped Rooney the bird and walked out, would we be safer with someone like Rob Ryan over Belichick and Smith? Sorry, but you’re not going to convince me that Rob Ryan is a better HC option than Bill Belichick… ever.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the biggest question with Cowher

is if he’s been gone too long. Jumping back in after barely working for the last 5 years (compared to how much an NFL coach works) is a concern.

And supposedly he wants full control? So he wants to go from a job that required a) a bit of googling during the week, b) some production meetings, c) a total of about 30 minutes of talking on camera for a week, and d) learning to overlaugh at terrible jokes.. to a job that requires him to a) evaluate every player on the team and practice squad, b) evaluate players from every other team in the league, c) evaluate street free agents, d) evaluate 300-400 college football players from around the country, e) fill a front office and coaching staff with competent people.. AND also being a HC, which is basically 3 full-time jobs’ worth of work..

I don’t know if he can do it. I don’t know if anyone can do it. Imagine if Parcells also tried to do Ireland’s job, and Sparano’s job.. We would be worse than we are now, because all three phases of the organization would be neglected (I guess similar to how they are neglected now lol).

I’m open to Cowher coming in to be the Czar, and bringing in his people to GM and Coach. I think he’s more progressive as a coach than Parcells, and understands that the game has changed, even since he’s been gone. I think he’s more willing to turn the reigns over to a young coach and franchise QB, considering he did just that with Roethlisberger in his final couple years. I’m open to him coming in to be the HC, with input into personnel, but also bringing in a GM to handle those duties. But I don’t want him doing everything.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 26, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much has changed since 2006

And he pretty much had full control in Pittsburgh was it was. He was the one that helped bring Colbert in 2000. Before then, they didn’t even have a GM. A lot of his players and coaches/assistants are still in the NFL and he could probably get many of them on his team.

As far as total control, he may try a similar setup in Pittsburgh where he gets someone he’s familiar with as GM to make partnered decisions.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it hasn't changed much

but he may have changed. 5 years is a long time removed from that 43 hour a day grind of an NFL coach lol

I would be completely open to him coming in with a GM and a competent front office to handle that side.
My first choice would be a younger guy, getting his first HC gig (just get the right one), but I’m not completely opposed to Cowher.

Gruden and Fisher, however, not at all

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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 26, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mental capasidy I desirve to win every game that i enterfor the rest of the season!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Type!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even Shula was heavily favored in two championship games with Baltimore.

He could very easily have won multiple rings with two different teams.

Of course, if he had won with the Colts, he might not have been in Miami.

by PNSter on Oct 27, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Everything happens for a reason!

Please learn the difference between a fan post and a fan shot before posting.

by texascowpunk on Oct 27, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theres only one undefeated team in the NFL!

& it’s not Baltimore!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 27, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 28, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one wins a ring with two teams.

I would prefer giving Mcdaniels another shot at head coach, cause this guys got something to prov. Fisher on the other hand is a throw back coach, still looking for a ring. I want somebody who will coach fins for next 10 years

by Jack Zullo on Oct 26, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to reply, but then I realized your Josh McDaniels comment meant your post must be a joke.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Personaly i like the Jaw of Cowher my first couch ever had said jaw & well i'm hooked!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!

by wild zion beaver on Oct 26, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree 100% Matty!

I’ve said it on Twitter and on my site, but it’s worth mentioning again. This team is so dysfunctional, they make Family Guy seem not-so-far-fetched. The embarrassment continues and we can only guess as to what might happen next.

by PhinNation.com on Oct 26, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Just curious about a dolphins fan take on this

What if you guys got Rob Ryan…it would be so much fun.

by michael28102 on Oct 26, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Go to timeout...

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 26, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And when you get there tell Alpha he can come back if he behaves himself.

Please learn the difference between a fan post and a fan shot before posting.

by texascowpunk on Oct 27, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Auto rec....

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by Alpha6 on Oct 26, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

WB Matty

nice write up

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by Neo on Oct 27, 2011 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Luck seems like the kind of kid who would welcome a challenge rather than run away from it.

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