Miami Dolphins' Karlos Dansby Reacts to "Suck for Luck"; Andrew Luck Weighs In
by Kevin Nogle on Oct 20, 2011 4:04 PM EDT
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The Miami Dolphins have lost all five of their 2011 season games, resulting in a fan base tired of watching their team lose. That fan base, hoping for a brighter future, has taken full grasp of the "Suck for Luck" campaign, actually wishing for the Dolphins to lose, so they can claim the number one overall draft pick next April, and take Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.
Well, that atitude, and the desire to see the team lose, has started to upset some of the Dolphins players. Linebacker Karlos Dansby, on Wednesday, told Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, "It pisses me off. I don't understand nothing about that. I put too many hours into this, man, put too many years into this, sacrificed too much to ask somebody to put that stipulation on me and my teammates. Because I know how much we put into this."
Dansby continued, "It's not right, bro. It's not right. We put too much into this, man, to have fans say that - period, point blank - or even promote that campaign. It's kind of sad."
But, Dansby wasn't done. "Man, we got 11 games. What are you talking about?" Dansby said. "We can't look at next season. We've got 11 games. We can win ‘em out, and then what? Then you'd be biting your tongue. Those guys that are saying that are fair-weather fans. They're not real Dolphins fans."
Dansby isn't the only one to weigh in on the Suck for Luck campaign recently. Dolphins Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino doesn't understand the desire to see Miami lose, despite the 16 starting quarterbacks the team has had since Marino's retirement.
"You got to win games," Marino said. "That's what your job is, that's the franchise. You don't go out there trying to lose games. That's just ridiculous. If that does happen, then you look at who's the best possible player.
"Usually, if you can get a franchise-type quarterback that's going to be around for 10 years, that's probably what direction you should go. But you're not going to know that for quite awhile, and you might not even know Andrew Luck, what's going to happen with him during the season."
Dansby's reaction is encouraging. It shows the team may not have quit on the season yet. And, it's understandable. Say you were an Apple employee, launching a new version of the iPhone - and the consumers were hoping for the phone to be a complete bust; everything about broken and the thing would not function. All so they could then go get the new Google phone. It may not be a perfect anaology, but it's close.
If that were you, on the inside, you should be pissed. You should be angry. You should hate every minute of it.
But, on the outside, maybe it's what is needed. If you product just doesn't measure up, maybe it's time for you to blow everything up and try again.
But, then again, maybe not.
The New York Times reported last week that Andrew Luck came out and commented on the phenomenon that is sweeping the fan bases of the bottom tier NFL teams. And, he wasn't exactly happy about the situation.
"I am aware of it," said Luck. "A couple of guys told me about it. I think it's stupid. Simply put."
When you are the consensus number one overall pick, and fan bases are clamoring for you, your statement about a campaign to purposely lose games should carry weight. And, if it doesn't, the refusal to play for a team, either by demanding a trade, or using your last year of NCAA eligibility will.
So, while the fan bases of all the teams, and in particular the Dolphins, ramp up the Suck for Luck chant, maybe it's not as good a thing as we all believe. If Andrew Luck doesn't think the Dolphins are the right fit for him, and a team losing on purpose clearly screams not a good franchise, he won't ever been in aqua and coral. And, there's no amount of sucking that can change that.
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Ive been a fan for 16 years since I was 8
Youve been here what a year Karlos?
Advantage: Me
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
Pfffft…add 11 more and you suffer through what I have, Bacon…LOL
We both have the advantage over Dansby!
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I've been a Dolphins fan since 1988
Not that long when compared to some guys here, but long enough to think Karlos sounds like a jackass with those comments.
Welcome to Sun Life(less) Stadium!
84 here
so I feel your pain, good sir.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
’74 here…me and TCP are in the same range…LOL
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh…we’re both resigned to the fact that we’re old fogies on this site. Insert “gramps” here.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He hehehee lots a ways to build a team the thing i know it will take two things Belife & confidence!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 20, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Gramps? Beav? They called us Gramps!
puppies…
I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.
by Tunaflipper on Oct 20, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No I'm not rooting for us too also lose, but i am rooting for the teams that don't have a victory to win
That don’t have miami as there team name!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 20, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been a fan since 72. I hate the suck for luck crap
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Oct 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Flipper & I are 2 of the oldest here.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Oct 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
& I am NOT a Gramps - my kids are 13 & 9
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Oct 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep; (i have a six year old) to boot & he can sing the fight song beter then 30% of the (so called) fans!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 21, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you all made your pont
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
hes only a dolphin fan for money though
Im a dolphin fan because I love them so much
Advantage: Still me
lol
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
giggle
I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.
by Tunaflipper on Oct 20, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
now watch them get motivated and start playing well...
they’ll go 10-6….and fuck themselves.
by Phins4life2334 on Oct 20, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I am so tired of players telling us what type of fans we should be.
I have been a fan of this team longer than Karlos Dansby has been alive. I can be any damn type of fan I want whether Karlos Dansby likes it or not. It pains me to see this team underperform constantly, week in and week out. It pains to watch this team play with no heart and no emotion, week in and week out.
I want this team to be better. I want this team to win. If it means that they have to suck to get a franchise QB next, that works for me because I want what is best for the Miami Dolphins, not Karlos Dansby.
I will say this: I am no longer a fan of Karlos Dansby.
Does that make me a bad fan Karlos since you play for my favorite team?
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
by ct1361 on Oct 20, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
What happens if we suck for Luck and he decides not to come out
as he did this year. Do we suck for Luck two years in a row? Last year he had a real reason to come out, this year he does not.
If Luck doesn't come out, then the Phins get another possible Franchise QB.
There is always more than one. But I want the Phins to draft one more than anything else. Because once you have that guy, everything else falls into place.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
he does because he got his degree..
he has to come out this year. Stanford is losing a lot of his Senior leadership…and playmakers. But Eli Situation looms….the more and more unstable this franchise seems to go the more and more Luck won’t want to come here. Cower/Gruden will have to be in office for Luck to come here.
by Phins4life2334 on Oct 20, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
CT, then I guess you are also not a Marino fan anymore either
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen, Karlos!
Real Dolphins fans want their team to win. Period. If you don’t want the Dolphins to win every time they’re on the field, go root for the Jets.
When you gonna start holding him and the coaching staff accountable?!?!
Blind faith will get you nowhere…are you held accountable at work?
What would happen to you or your supervisor if you were’nt getting the job done? No one that bought that companys product or had shares in it would be cheering you on blindly. These guys and the coaching staff get paid millions of dollars, they get no free-pass! Fuck Dansby as a matter of fact, I watched him give up the other night as well…some captain. No accountability! Wish I made millions of dollars with that set-up…..
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So why is it bad to tell Suck for Luck people how to root for the Dolphins
But, okay to tell people who want to see wins that they are wrong?
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
I never said he was wrong, but I don't see you trying to see anyone elses point either.
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 20, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Might have been the tone of the article, Mosul
Seemed like you were trying to play the middle but you fell off the fence a bit with the whole maybe they need this/maybe they don’t thing. Even Marino’s comments are kind of skewed—I read an interview where he said he wasn’t sure any team could/should do that, but that it would be a “nice option” and a “tempting option.” Far more grey than throwing out the entire notion.
I've never told anyone wanting wins they were wrong! Never!
I have been understanding of both sides and quite respectful! I think it’s funny that you picked me as the one to pose that question to. Have you read some of the stuff thats been said on both sides lately?
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 20, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Read my sig, the message has'nt changed!
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 20, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You're probably right.
It was more a general question, not accusing you. I probably put it in the wrong spot.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
I must be an idiot
I still want to win games. I am still hoping for 10 wins. And I am not worried about next years draft after 5 games.
that 2 leg stool will hold you up . . .
just gotta use a little creativity – turn it over so the seat is on the floor, shove 1 leg up where the sun doesn’t shine and I GUARANTEE it will hold you up!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Oct 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
That got a chuckle
almost a LOL
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I bet we'd get a squeal if you sat on the other leg....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
That also got a chuckle
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
LOL! ... and the other leg is for the monkey Enhalen. He loves inserting things....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I don't understand how us wanting to win is not "holding him and the coaching staff accountable."
I want Miami to win and play well. If they don’t, then we need to get people who can lead the team to victory. Yes, I am held accountable at work. When I was a teacher, I had to meet with my boss to discuss the comments and evaluations from my students. However, I would be damn pissed if the students sat there hoping I failed in class, hoping that I made a waste of everyone else’s time in that class, only so that they could get someone else (who isn’t even proven to be better). Don’t mistake people who want Miami to win with people who don’t want change. We just don’t wish our own team failure so that we can draft and avoid failure. I feel that is a little counter-intuitive.
Football is back!
by Dakota Phan on Oct 20, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My God man, I've never said I wanted to see this team lose...But, I'm not gonna shed tears if they do.
I’m gonna be just as furious as I was for every lose this year. Difference this year, I’m not holding out hope for some miracle to happen as I did every other year I’ve been a fan…32yrs. and counting. I respect everyone’s view on this site. I just get sick of people trying to classify people into 2 categories. It’s not black and white, theres a huge gray area. I’m very torn and see both sides. Just get very upset with people saying your not a fan if you even have doubts about how you feel on this topic. No disrespect meant. GO DOLPHINS NOW AND FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry for misinterpreting your view
but someone posted
Real Dolphins fans want their team to win. Period.and you replied very angrily to him. I sort of assumed when you replied angrily to someone who wants their team to win that it was because you didn’t want them to win.
Football is back!
No worries Dakota.
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you guys pick the most personal of topics to crawl out from under...
Let us deal with this internally…much appreciated.
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I think people are just missing the point for the " Suck for Luck"
it goes soo much deeper than us wanting them to lose games. Short term pain for long term gain….
by Phins4life2334 on Oct 20, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Karlos thinks something is going to change during the next 11 games?
Eleven games of misery is more like it. Dansby’s ridiculous amount of blown assignments and missed tackles this season actually had me thinking he’s a fan of the Suck for Luck campaign. Silly me.
Oh, and Andrew Luck clarified those comments when he appeared on Rome is Burning on Tuesday. No big deal. He’s definitely aware that we blow, though.
Oh boy, and now people are starting rumors that Luck will pull an Elway/Eli. I guess he has the right to do that when he’s this coveted, but if that happens, I say we trade the bitch’s rights for some primo picks and use this tragedy to our advantage.
Welcome to Sun Life(less) Stadium!
Of course he’s going to pull an Elway, whether we have the 1st pick or it’s someone else. I truly believe he’d do the same with the Colts, because he wants to start on day 1. Couldn’t agree with you more, though. Draft him and then trade him for whichever team’s 1st and 2nd round picks for the next 3 seasons.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
To clarify the above statement – he’ll pull the same thing with the Colts IF Peyton Manning is healthy at the start of the 2012 season.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy hell. Imagine what we could do with that kind of draft ammo?
Swap picks and get our franchise QB and then …
-Draft a left guard and right tackle
-Draft a franchise-caliber safety
-Draft a tight end
-Possibly draft a wide receiver
-Possibly draft another corner (absolutely necessary, IMO)
Welcome to Sun Life(less) Stadium!
I like it! If he tries it, rebuild with quality picks this draft.
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 20, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that depends
on who the Coach/GM is. A competent GM would select a QB in round 1 (Jones, Barkley as examples). If a QB isn’t available at that pick, draft Trent Richardson; RB, Alabama.
Then use the 2nd rounders on…
- Ray Ray Armstrong, The U
- Morris Claiborne, LSU
Thank you…please drive thru.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you just take my order?
And is it the first or second window?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
lol. Love the fast food talk
I think Claiborne will be the first corner selected, though. He and Janoris Jenkins are ridiculous CB prospects. And I like those two much more than that bastard Dre Kirkpatrick.
Welcome to Sun Life(less) Stadium!
you won't know if Peyton is healthy..until week one.
regardless of the week 1 injury report.
by Phins4life2334 on Oct 20, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, people close to his father have said, it's a very strong possibility.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
I guess it makes sense. Eli Manning had a huge hype train going into the 2004 Draft
And Luck’s hype train will be the size of a Tyrannosaurus Rex by the time April rolls around. Good thing there are plenty of QBs to draft in 2012!
Welcome to Sun Life(less) Stadium!
this team has no heart
Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Oct 20, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess my sarcasm didn't show through?
Of course Logic should be used in this case.
Also, what else are the players going to say, including Andrew Luck.
Luck: Suck for me!
Dansby: Suck for you!
Wait. That doesn’t sound right….
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Suck for Luck, or...
give Handys for Landry.
by Saulus on Oct 20, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am kinda shocked at the fan bases reaction
At least they are showing signs of emotion,life,etc.
P.S. You say you are no longer a fan of Dansby because of the statement he made,well then,does that mean you are no longer a fan of Marino? Andrew Luck’s?
Bottom line,this report wasnt just about Dansby’s reaction,last i read,Marino and Luck’s input is there as well. Just so happens,Dansby is the only one currently on the team.
I am happy that one of our higher payed,higher touted names is having a reaction to all this. It may lead to a different atmosphere in the locker room. Someone on this team needs to lead it,because Sparano just ain’t getting the job done.
We need more players pissed and fired up about the fans reaction to this,then maybe we will start to see some signs of life from this post mortem franchise.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 20, 2011 4:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Marino can say whatever he wants...he was a true leader!
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 20, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I already posted a FANPOST about this hours ago...
But REC… I thought this had a lot of merit as a topic.
I too – have been a FAN of the miami dolphins longer than Dansby has been alive….42 year now….I also understand his anger – but how about doing SOMETHING – anything to win a game ? Dansby has 22 tackles and 1 sack on the season…Defense is playing like pure sh*t… he is the most talented (DEF) player we have …. How about leading by making some plays… I will be a FAN – long after Dansby is gone…
where was he last week when Sanchez ran up the middle for a TD ?
also we are 7-14 over two years with Dansby on the team… He has not proven to be worth the money…so yea KARLOS – we are hoping for LUCK in the draft – you are’nt making a difference – but he will !!!
41 Year FIN FAN
Franchise QB... NOW !!! ...Draft Ryan Mallett ...Draft some Freakin speed for a change. WR & RB speed kills......
i honestly dont care what Dansby has to say...
start making some plays and then maybe we will listen… “We’ve got 11 games. We can win ‘em out, and then what? Then you’d be biting your tongue”… LOL, dansby has a bit of a sense of humor…
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
I agree with Dansby
No TRUE fan of a team wants to see them lose just for the chance to draft a player that may or may not be a good at the next level.
Take a poll (actually…I’m sure there already is one somewhere), asking Dolphins fans if they would draft Andrew Luck, if they had the chance. Betcha that number is higher than 80%.
Ya know what I’m not a fan of? Mediocrity – which is something the Dolphins have specialized in since 1990.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Wanting to draft Andrew Luck
And wanting to root for Dolphins losses are two different things.
Just like, I want to have $1 million…but I don’t want to rob a bank.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
by Kevin Nogle on Oct 20, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A Dolphins loss on sunday
will show us they are sucking for Luck. There is no reason that the dolphins should loose to a 1 dimensional team that can only run the ball.
To beat Tebow you need to constantly rush and blitz, man to man coverage in the back field.
There is no reason that the dolphins should loose to a 1 dimensional team that can only run the ball.
Like the Jets?
Like the Browns?
I wouldn’t exactly confuse these two teams with the Greatest Show on Turf anytime soon.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not the point
The point is they are 1 dimensional teams that can only run the ball (unless they play the Dolphins defense, as shown last Monday night when Cameron Wake was covering Santonio Holmes on a 3rd and 10).
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That made me want to weep
HOW IN THE HELLL do you end up with Cameron Wake, who is mediocre at best in coverage, cove freakin Santonio Holmes!!!! ugh just just pathetic.
The better question is:
Why are you dropping your best pass-rusher into coverage on 3rd and 10?
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
phhh we've seen this show before...
we lose to teams all the time that are 1 dimensional. Then some no namer WR comes out and has a record game. Or tebow just runs all over us…pass/run option is always a threat. This shit just happens to the dolphins. Don’t say there is no reason that we should lose this game.
by Phins4life2334 on Oct 20, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So you want to throw this season away...
for a QB that may not even go to this season draft, if that is the case you would like us to suck next year to see if we can get luck? Plus you do not know if Luck will produce, yes he favored because he is in a pro style offense but it stupid to throw away a season for a single player.
You build your team through the draft, that means not the number one pick but all of them, Dolphins need to look at RB and defense, go and look at which back up qbs are around and who has had 2+ years behind an elite QB.
They also need to stop taking left over qbs that failed on all levels.
ROFLMFAO!!!
So you want to throw this season away…for a QB that may not even go to this season draft
Look up Andrew Luck, pal. Tell me what year he is in college.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Before you get too smart
He’s only played 3 years, including this one. Last I checked, NCAA gives 4 years of eligibility. That means he could stay for 1 more year.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
He's listed as a senior in their media guide. OK, Mosul. I guess I'm not too smart then.
So you’re saying you believe there’s a chance that he won’t come out?
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He loves it there
He loves playing at Standford plus he is really close with the coach/ It all depends on who will have #1 draft pick
One more year of eligibility =
Second Major
Start Masters
Stay in School and take courses for fun and enjoyment (As I did)
No one forces you to leave the college experience after 4 years.
What if ...
Luck gets amnesia … fails all of his courses … and is ineligible to play his senior year for academic reasons …
and ends up as the water boy for the Dolphins ?
I wanna say some things soo bad...gag-order...
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying you're not too smart....
It definitely comes across the wrong way. Meant it in the “smart alec” kind of way….sorry if it came across as me saying you’re dumb.
Do I think he won’t come out? No. Do I think there’s a chance he could decide to stay and do a year of grad work or something, if he doesn’t like the team getting the first overall pick? Yes.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
Whatever you say man.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he's a redshirt junior
But from the way he talks, it sounds like this is his last year at Stanford.
Welcome to Sun Life(less) Stadium!
4th year junior to be specific
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 20, 2011 10:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
SUCK FOR LUCK = Stupidity
Simply put luck has the chance to play college football one more year, the 2012 qb class is 100% better then the 2011, but you can’t just suck for luck, The dolphins do need a qb that will spark the offense and will be around for awhile.
Dolphins just need a spark and consistency. Sprano is not the answer, getting luck is not the answer, moore is not the answer, what they should have done was look at which back up qbs are playing behind elite qbs and trading for one of them, look at some of the back up rbs and trading for them. But the trade is over and this Sunday we will see if the dolphins really want to change this season around or suck for luck
Luck
Did Luck say he didn’t want to play for the phins? I am confused here. But if he doesn’t, that speaks loudly on how bad of a franchise this last two ownership “H” and “R” have been. The next top QB doesn’t want to come to south florida because our team sucks. Ouch!
Denver Radio
Been stating due to the history Dolphins had, Miami would be the only team in south Florida that Luck would most likely go to, however there is a serious bromance between Luck and Elway. So look at the donkeys trying to get the number 1 draft pick.
If this is true
You think they wanted a bunch for Orton? Wait til they get a load of what it’ll take to pry that pick from Miami.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he said that he thinks the Suck for Luck campaign is stupid
And, if he feels that way, why would he want to go to a team that everyone assumes is “tanking?”
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
Because that's the only kind of team that's going to be in a position to draft him.
Unless you are insinuating that Dolphin fans are the only fans in the NFL hoping their team will be bad enough to draft. Which I don’t believe for a second.
Not at all....
But, once the season is over, Luck holds cards too. He can say, “Look Dolphins, I don’t want to play for you. Trade me.”
Or he could say, “Look Colts, I don’t want to sit behind Peyton. Trade me.”
Or, “Look Broncos. I’m not dealing with the Tebow thing. Trade me.”
BTW, from a report I read (can’t remember where), they said it was very possible Luck would demand a trade from the Broncos, which would give Elway the same treatment he gave the Colts coming in to the league.
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just posted this comment on another article, but I think it applies...
Nobody is really asking for the Phins to underperform or throw the season. All I ask is for them to continue playing as they are, which might be bad enough to get to the top pick. "Suck for Luck" is not a call for the players to play worse. Because we all know that will never realistically happen. "Suck for Luck" is simply Dolphins fans seeing that the team is terrible and trying to be optimistic that as bad as this season is, it will pay off in the long run. I really think some people who are taking the “Suck for Luck” campaign to far, as well as those taking it to literally…
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
by #1Heatfan on Oct 20, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
FYI, me hoping this team will lose doesn't make this team lose.
Players like Dansby (and everyone else) sucking makes this team lose.
Dansby should be more concerned that this team is losing than what the fans think.
by PNSter on Oct 20, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
"You got to win games," Marino said. "That's what your job is, that's the franchise"
Instead of worrying about what fans are saying, why don’t the players worry about doing their job. Which is to win games. Players are sucking for Luck not fans
Officially on board with Suck for Luck
I think that's the problem....
The players aren’t sucking for Luck. The players are just sucking. Implying that they are sucking for Luck is what gets them upset – it sounds like they are trying to lose.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
Actions are louder than words
The fans are saying suck For Luck but it is the players that are doing it
Officially on board with Suck for Luck
by biggaandbadda on Oct 20, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody, anywhere, is impying anyone is tanking for Luck
except for the people who want to point out what bad fans we are.
Suck for Luck means, “I sure hope this team continues to under perform and fail to meet expectations, because then we will have an opportunity to draft Moses Of The Gridiron.”
Seriously, I think this whole Suck for Luck-outrage is just an excuse to hate on people who are trying to make the best of a bad situation because you don’t like the situation either. It’s petty and nonconstructive.
I have no problem with rooting for the team to lose
But, sadly, there are S4Lers who want the team to tank. There have been at least two posts and numerous comments here to that effect (however representative that may be).
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Very, very true.
We’ve had multiple people wanting to trade everyone so the team is as bad as can be. Tanking games is very much a topic around here right now.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
Yes. I wrote a post a few weeks ago about why the tanking idea is incoherent
As usual, I think there are extremes on both sides of this thing, from People thinking the team must throw games to people claiming that rooting for the team to lose is damaging our children.
Too much politics, not enough actual talk.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
He has a ton of heart. Unfortunately, the talent didn’t pack its bags for his flight from Arizona to Miami.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 20, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Dansby
That’s the problem. Dansby played well last year and I can remember him making a ton of plays — maybe not INT’s, but some real nice tackles in the hole and an occasional sack when he blitzed (which wasn’t often) and he seemed to be able to cover better than he has this year.
Has he deteriorated that much in 1 year? Was Crowder that important beside him? Has Nolan run out of ideas and schemes? Someone answer these questions.
Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Oct 20, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya because they just plain and simple SUCK and luck won’t help this year
by DPHIN on Oct 20, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
SFL is so misconstrued!
NOBODY thinks the players are purposely tanking games and NOBODY is asking them to!
The reasoning for SFL is so frustrated fans of bad teams have something to look forward to and feel better about a BAD season. It’s just a catchy rhyme.
by hbkDolphins on Oct 20, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sadly false
There are fans who comment and post here planning how the team should suck. It isn’t everyone, and may not be the majority. But it is far from “nobody”
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Listen Mr. Dansby
Some of the same fans that want Luck. Wanted you also. Step up play ball and it is all good. Then this movement ends. Maybe all the players should play for a $1 a win. Maybe we should hold up paychecks until you folks start putting up Wins.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
Hope and Change----With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft The Miami Dolphins select Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
You see these guys driving bentlies and high end sports cars so win or lose they still get paid. Maybe put them in some pintos or gremlins until they win and see if they can become humble.
by DPHIN on Oct 20, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
These are grown men and i am guessing they are getting tired of people asking them about the whole suck for luck. I hope they win some games and bring back Henne, i just think the freakout posts would be hilarious. Come on 5-11 and Henne coming back!!!!!!!!
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Winston Churchill
Never give in, never give in, never; never; never- in nothing, great or small, large or petty- never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense
Winston Churchill
Karlos (war eagle) Dansby!!
I still believe the dolphins can turn it around and go on a winning streak…
11-5 and in the playoffs!!
Once this OFFENSE start putting TDs on the board ,it will turn this team
into a playoff team!
You got to take it one game at a time…starting with the denver broncos.
Hilarious
Once this OFFENSE start putting TDs on the board ,it will turn this team
That’s the whole problem! When???
Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Oct 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
rooting for a loss and demanding thrown games are different things
The first is fair.
The second is maddenesque fantasy.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Then why are the anti-Luck posters lumping everyone together?
The people calling for Miami to throw games are in the extreme minority of even the Suck for Luck camp.
I think the anti-SFLers are lumping people together BUT
so are the SFLers. People are frustrated. This will get better with a few wins and worse with more losses. Unfortunately for now there is just going to be a bunch of unhappy people wanting to drown their sorrows, complain, or try to make some sense of this season.
Football is back!
Respectfully, you are doing the exact same thing in your response
Do you really believe that “the anti-Luck posters” are “lumping everyone together?” Or is it that some of them are, and now you are lumping all people who don’t like suck for luck (even calling them anti-luck sounds loaded) together with them?
I have no idea, and frankly neither do you, whether the throw games group is the minority. It is a commonly expressed position on fansites. There have been posts and comments about it here. So too, people who root for losses, but don’t believe a professional should intentionally throw games also is representative. I have no idea what the numbers are.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Okay here is my 2 cents... HELLO KARLOS DANSBY!!!! GIVE US MORE THAN JUST WORDS TO GO ON, AND WIN OUT AND WE WILL GLADLY STOP THE SFL CAMPAIGN !!!!!!!!!!
Until then shut the fuck up and start doing more than talking about turning it around!!!!!
FUCK YOU !!! from this real Miami Dolphin fan since 19 FUCKING 69 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jimbo
Try not to be too hard on Dansby.
He feels like a bunch of people want him to fail. He’s trying to win, and is hoping for a fan base that supports him in his one goal: winning games. I would be very worried if he didn’t respond with a little anger. Yes, you have been a fan for longer, and I do think that means something. You have a right to be frustrated. But Dansby has probably put plenty of blood and sweat into this team and is pretty upset that the people that are supposed to support him are claiming that all of his work is a waste and he should give up two years of his life for a player that has never thrown an NFL pass. Think what you will about him, but I would imagine a lot of us would feel the same way if we were players on a team working to try to get a win. You probably played sports as a kid. How would you feel if the papers were full of hoping your high school team would choke so that it was kicked out of its competition level and moved down to play worse teams from smaller schools so that they could see wins?
Football is back!
He is human and I understand but this is a learning opportunity for him as well
when die hard fans have giving up on you and are looking to the future, the team is the one that has to ask itself the hard questions and look in the mirror. If they produced, there would be no suck for luck voice.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
hopefully this dolphins team realizes that we as fans r tired of garbage play
we want wins thats it. u want us to stop the suck for luck chants? Then play some fucking football. I am not sitting here wasting 3 hours of my day watching a team with alot of talent play like an effortless team. I am a fed up as a Phins fan. I want this franchise to win, nothing else. Everybody else wants wins. This suck for luck thing doesn’t mean we want the phins to lose, it means we demand better football.
I get that you mean that Suck for Luck means a demand for better football
but it doesn’t sound like that to an outsider. It sounds like you think that we should suck (play badly/lay down/give up) to draft one player: Luck. Did Dansby lump a bunch of fans into a group that they don’t all fit in? Yup. Did he misconstrue what a lot of fans mean? Yup. However, can you fault him for taking the most literal definition of Suck for Luck?
Football is back!
by Dakota Phan on Oct 20, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade em all
Dansby got his big check
Soliai got his big check
Marshall got his big check
…and I wouldn’t lose a minutes sleep if they all check out.
They all talk the talk but it aint the whistle that pulls the train.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
Um fairweather?
Fairweather means loyal when the team is succesful.
What part of modern Dolphins history has been “succesful”?
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 20, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good God.
I can’t believe how much the whole Suck For Luck thing has been misconstrued. It has been blown way out of proportion and is being taken as something totally different than what it originally meant.
First of all, NOBODY IS ASKING THE DOLPHINS TO INTENTIONALLY LOSE GAMES!!!!! The whole idea of that is utterly ridiculous, but the media outlets have decided to assume that is what the phrase “Suck For Luck” actually means. They decided to make it seem like the team is now actively trying to lose games so they can draft this one person. And what is even sadder than that, so many people are buying it!!! Forget the fact that the logistics of trying to get 53 people to all do the same thing convincingly is damn near impossible. Forget the fact that players who have a very limited window where their bodies can handle the rigors of the game would basically be throwing away an entire year. The media is saying that is what is happening so it must be true!!! The media has never misconstrued something to make it into a bigger story than it actually is.
The simple breakdown of it is, if we are going to suck (which we currently are), then maybe we will suck enough to be able to draft Andrew Luck. This is what Suck For Luck means, not “Intentionally lose football games so we can get a good draft pick”. It means that since getting to the playoffs is a very unlikely chance, given our competition and our current record, that we should not spend future draft picks or players to try and “fix” a situation that will at best net us another season of mediocrity and no playoffs. We should instead save those picks and those players to use to try and trade up (if needed) to get Luck (or whatever other QB we want) in the draft. That is what “Suck For Luck” means. Just keep doing what we’re doing and get the best chance we can to draft Luck.
As for Luck, if he wants to just mindlessly believe the crap that the media has twisted this whole thing into and be a selfish little bitch like Eli and Elway and pull the same shit they did, well that’s his perogative. If he doesn’t want to go to a certain team, then he should just not enter the draft and try out for that team as an undrafted free agent. When you enter the draft, you are taking a chance on what team will pick you and you should accept that. If you didn’t want to play for a specific team, then don’t enter the draft because you can’t control who is going to pick you. And he should probably stop just believing whatever the media tells him because they will spin anything they can to make it bigger than it is to sell more stories.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
28 "Phinsider Feud" Points
This is just the first Fan Post I found searching "Bench Players" talking about this season:
How do we become the worst team this year? Start Pat Delvin (or resign Pat White and throw him to the wolves). Henne is looking better, and ironically that’s why the Dolphins should bench him. He is capable of leading us to a 5-11, 6-10 or 7-9 record, good for 6th-12th in the draft, good for another 4+ years of mediocrity.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2011/9/26/2451790/long-term-solution-for-the-fins
So, I disagree on the “Nobody is asking the Dolphins to lose intentionally” statement. They are several around here that are doing exactly that.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
Ok, I accept that.
I did not read that post so I did not see that. I still stand by the statement that the whole concept of that is utterly ridiculous though that people think the team itself is doing that.
As far as fans saying this crap that the team should intentionally tank the season, I agree with the players who are pissed. There’s no room or reason for that. The goal of the whole thing is for the team to get better, not make themselves worse.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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That's the point I was trying to make.
And, I may have missed a little, sounding against the SFL campaign.
I think the players being pissed off by the Suck For Luck thing is dead on right. They should be pissed. They have put a ton into this – even if they aren’t getting the results. I would be pissed if you came to my work and said, despite all your effort, we want you to fail.
And, I am at the point that, although every week I want the team to win, I understand the consolation that a loss can bring when you look at the draft.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2012/2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
Mosul this is life
1) You make 30.000 – 3million a year
2) You see a kid like Tebow the reason that this kid will succead in this leauge becouse (Read this next exeart all) the mental game is killer. If you don’t get it you wont win, i know this is “cleshay” but there is a book that will help you understand more then my rants. Just ask!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 20, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Pissed for maybe a moment but, if they actually give it a moment's thought
what does it mean when a strong fan voice is calling for you to continue failing? And let’s get this straight, it isn’t just a desire to see future failure. It is a desire to let current failure, “despite all your effort,” continue for the rest of the season.
It means that a portion of the fanbase has come to expect them to be mediocre at best. That is not rejecting Dansby despite his effort but criticizing him for his effort, or rather, lack thereof. It shows lack of confidence in a team that has done little to earn trust.
His job is to put forth his all for his paycheck. He needs to do that no matter what the fans say. But in a market economy, you either produce the goods people want or they stop buying. I don’t think he his comments showed any understanding of the position his customers (or his boss’s customers) are in. Shut us up by killing it. If the fins win 8 of their last 11 games convincingly with Moore at QB, maybe suck for luck will die out on its own.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
by Strange on Oct 21, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd...agree 100%
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Strange; the first game of the season, when the "second quarter started" there was no presure put on (Tom Brady) I was thinking, whats wrong with Dansby!
Know I here him chime in like hes never played this year!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 21, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you should search for "throw games" posts.
I bet you would find a post advocating we throw games.
since the team is 0-5
it seems moore is considered a loser and not a keeper after one start.I thought it was interesting that he stated that ball placement was the one thing he wanted to improve on in the next game.I still remember the TD Marshall dropped,he drops a lot of passes.I think maybe Marshall can catch a ball farther out in front of him than ideal,as opposed to one behind him.I will try to remember this when Marshall drops one,if it was thrown slightly behind him that is.IMO against the Jets when they ran all those isolations Marshall on Reavis in the end zone,if I was the QB I would have told Marshshall to expect the ball high,he towers over Reavis,to me that is common sense but IM not paid to make excuses.
Fuck Karlos Dansby.
The Dolphins have been shit for a decade and I want it to go into a new direction.
Where did you go?
Hey karlos we fans want the dolphins to win, but we also wonder what happened to our #6 ranked defense from last year did you eat them with that fat Azz check you cashed?
by DPHIN on Oct 20, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he isnt exactly the main reason our d sucks
If anything,you should be asking that question to Soliai. He’s our 12.4 million dollar man.
Our SS is a year older,our FS suffers from reoccuring hamstring issues.
Our corners are talkin out their asses,the only one that seems to be making plays is a reformed ex convict. But that is not the kicker.
There was no tape last year. Nothing to gameplan on. The same cant be said of this years. That may be part of the problem.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 21, 2011 12:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Check Dansby’s stats and you might reconsider. Burnett and Dansby both have been AWOL. Where are they when gaps should be filled? They are nowhere to be found — getting blocked into oblivion. That is partly on Solai’s shoulders since he is supposed to keep the linebackers clean, but c’mon man! The whole defense is void of playmakers. We couldn’t catch a football if it had super glue on it.
Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Oct 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You know who was great at filling gaps?
Crowder. I said the unspeakable!
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Sign Ortonimus Prime!
joel your 100% right, I complained about Crowder for years...now seeing that he may have been the lynch-pin.
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the ones in his front teeth. Someone with money should fix that, I think.
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lmao
Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
"OFFICIAL SERGEANT MAJOR OF THE ANDREW LUCK FLEET"
Live with NO REGRETS!
by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 21, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Use some critical thinking skills here people.
It’s not a coincidence the Luck bandwagon has grown huge since this team has gone 0-5. And it’s not because a bunch of people said, “Hey look, the Dolphins must be throwing games! I can get behind that!”
Dansby
what has Karlos brought to the table this year? I thought so
One thing is for sure...
If we do end up with the first pick, you can bet your ass that the Dolphins will bring Marino with them to go talk to Luck and sell him on this franchise. Somewhat of a recruiting trip. And I believe that Marino will close the deal. Look, if the season ends the way it started, Ross will clean house. With Luck seeing that, and having the ability to see who we bring in via FA which is a month before the draft, and the coach he will be most likely playing for-its nothing but positives, and he will see that Ross is committed to putting a winning team on the field, with him being the centerpiece for years to come. Change the attitude, change the culture, and we may end getting Luck-y after all.
Where is Oronde Gadsden when we need him?
"Joe Montana was a product of the system. Dan Marino was the system"-Bill Walsh.
by FinzD54 on Oct 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ross's new plan to recoup bad ticket sales
is to sell T-shirts that say SFL.
That would actually be a really good idea, but would kill the morale of his team... oh wait
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Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Sign Ortonimus Prime!
we dont know how long it will last!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 21, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Dansby
when you stop quitting on Sundays, we’ll stop quitting on this team after 5 games.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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Couldn’t agree more, Nicky. At some point, even die hard fans get frustrated with the direction of the team.
Here’s the bottom line. I’ve been a Dolphins fan for 27 years. I live and die with this team every week. I don’t sit here and say “Boy, I hope we lose today,” but as Neo had mentioned in a different post, what I do want is this team to go in a different direction. Coaching, Front Office, Draft philosophies, et al – that’s what I want. If we just so happen to land the 1st pick in the draft next year, great…pick Luck and we’ll ride that train.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Oct 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it me?
Or is Dansby getting delusional by saying “what if we win out?” I mean im sure he’s thinking hypothetically here, but why say it? He hasnt made any contribution for the phins to get a win this yr..the whole defense has been terrible. Can you blame fans for turning this way? I understand it sounds blasphemous to root against your team, but if its for a better cause, are you gona say, “theyre not real fans?” I’m not on the suck for luck campaign im just trying to understand both sides. I mean its not like we cant deal with a terrible season, it happened in 07’…as long as we dont go winless, i dont care what our record is…but I truly think Luck will help our franchise succeed…so as much as I’m not going to root against my team, I wont be upset if we go 1-15…I got through it 4 yrs ago, i can get through it now, especially if the outcome will be greater.
"Hopefully they'll bury one of our footballs, too," Brandon Marshall
KWL
I am with you 100%
That’s what I have been saying this whole time as well. I am not a suck for luck-er exactly but the opinion is far from a crazy.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Fair-weather fans!?
I’m pretty sure I still wear my jersey every Sunday and prepare for yet another game of a team that gave up on its coach last year. A team that rarely has success because we don’t have a QB. Dansby, you just lost a lot of my respect.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Sign Ortonimus Prime!
My Damn Question; is at the get go of the season, why did these players that speak up now. Let this season get so far out of hand, No presure on the QB!
No tackling, Yep this week we might be the very team that can & will win. but this team as we stand cant beat the Broncos, so as i here it i’m a bad fan or what?
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet! Captain beem me abord the luckmobil!
by wild zion beaver on Oct 21, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
Your not a bad fan none of us are we just root for a team that has sucked for over a decade and has had more quarterbacks ran through us then Jessica Simpson
by DPHIN on Oct 21, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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