Keep or Kick: Jeff Ireland

After reading the article about Parcell's history

my opinion is cemented that he is out of his league.
And Sparano is to.

And the side note of his infatuation with Dallas players.
Jeez.

Do your job Ireland. Research every other teams cast offs!

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by Tunaflipper on Oct 14, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

right!

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions

You know Jerry Jones laughs to himself everytime we pick-up one of his cast-offs...

Just like when that video of him all liquered up saying “Bill ain’t worth a shit, just brought him in to help get the stadium.”
F-you Parcells, you set us back sooo far.

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

The only positive thing Parcells gave us was a decent defensive line

Starks was nothing before he got here and Langford is a fantastic 3-4 end. They are playing like crap this season but hopefully that is an abberation

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Oct 14, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

The few good things he did will never trump setting the organization back 3-5 more yrs. again.

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

We just need to get rid of the this old skool kind of thinking..

need to be like everyone else. Speedy TE’s…. and swinging guards and tackles.

by Phins4life2334 on Oct 16, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't mind if he stays

If it takes getting rid of Ireland to get Cowher or another highly respected HC, I am for it. He does have a pretty good eye for talent and bringing in player doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the GM’s fault. Everyone says Bush is a good player, but is used wrong. If that is the case, it is not Ireland’s fault but the fault of the coordinators and coaching staff. I think he has done pretty well with the drafts, especially in the later rounds. If he is gone and Miami doesn’t go for a high profile HC, I feel the GM position will go to Ross’ buddy Carl Peterson and that concerns me greatly.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

I voted for him to go but you know that may not be fair

Ireland hit on players that were sorely missing in our offense last year. A seam threat TE (Clay) and deep threat WR (Gates) a between the tackles RB (Thomas) and a 3rd down back (Bush). Out of all these guys none seem to be involved in the offense one bit except maybe Thomas. Should the fault be on Ireland or Daboll? I’m not sure either way

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by Souwantmyname on Oct 14, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Bitch slap,

I mean, “kick”

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by BlackPack-fan on Oct 14, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Busts:

Eric Green – Parcells

Ernest Wilford – Parcells

Gibril Wilson – Parcells

Jake Grove (10 games 13 mill) – Parcells

Reggie Bush (atm) – Ireland

Kevin Burnett – Ireland

Marc Colombo – Ireland

Tim Dobbins – Parcells

Disappointments

Karlos Dansby – Parcells

Brandon Marshall – Parcells

Justin Smiley – Parcells

Solid

Randy Starks – Parcells

Anthony Fasano – Parcells

Chad Pennington – Parcells

Richie Incognito – Parcells

Excellent

Cameron Wake – Parcells

Almost everyone of these was actually Parcells’ decision. Ireland may have been the “GM,” but Parcells made the calls.

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by Kevin Nogle on Oct 14, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions

Ah so Ireland has picked up 0 solid or excellent players by himself?

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

So, Burnett not playing like he did in San Diego

And the offensive coordinator misusing Bush is the GM’s fault?

I have no argument for Colombo. Tony must have told Jeff he could make him better.

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by Kevin Nogle on Oct 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

And Ireland was credited for the late round picks and Davone Bess, the UDFA.

I say that deserves some kudos. I also say not giving Orton a huge contract to make a desperation move was a smart no-call. Sometimes it’s not just about the moves you make, but the ones you don’t make.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

What about those not on the list?

Brackett, Grigsby, Devlin, Chisolm, Jones, Freeny, Agnew, Livas.

I just don’t get that warm fuzzy when I think of Ireland compared other GM’s.

Disclaimer: When gauging talent, I don’t use stats, I use intangibles – like the warm fuzzy effect.

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by Tunaflipper on Oct 14, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I want Ted Thompson's protege...

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I want Ted Thompson

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions

lmao...right. Ross has the C-notes to lure him away, will never do it.

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions

i was kiddin

But yea we need a gm like the Ravens, Steelers, and Packers have. How do u find a GM?

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Craigslist...

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Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions

we tried that to find a qb

no dice

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

But are we really going to deem him a problem

just because not every single UDFA that came in didnt become a star? I dont have any stats to back it up but it is my understanding that over 90% of the UDFAs any team brings in does not make it in the long run. The fact that he is hitting on some of them is outstanding. If you look at the roster, the problem is not talent. we have tons of talent on the roster. The problem is performance, these players are not playing to their potential and that should not fall on Ireland

by AcolyteofRa on Oct 14, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions

he's hit on ONE udfa. not some. one.

what other consistent contributor is an UDFA?

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Carpenter and Bess. Arguably the two best at their positions in the league

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by Farorefox on Oct 14, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I would also like to add

Moore and Wallace as solid contributors. They have been improving as WRs and are good special teams players

by AcolyteofRa on Oct 14, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

they don't contribute at all

5th and 6th receivers respectively. Every others teams 5th string players are most likely to be undrafted as well. Doesn’t count as a hit.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions

kickers aren't football players lol

Carpenter isn’t top 10 let alone the best.
Davone is Besst tho. ONE HIT for Ireland.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions

He's the one credited for finding Romo...

But that’s Dallas. Still, Carpenter and Bess as UDFAs are better than what the majority of the NFL has had for UDFAs.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

He didn't find Romo. Ireland is not the Guy folks. Take my word for it or we will just find out again next year. LOL

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by FinFanFromCA on Oct 14, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Burnett wasnt resigned or signed to another team for a reason

He cant get off a block to save his life. Ireland should have recognized that like 31 other teams did.
Bush was signed to replace Ronnie or Ricky. Doesnt take a genius to know he wouldnt do well being an every down back.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

the job on offense this offseason for Ireland was to make the offense more explosive, Bush is one of the most explosive players in the league, not Ireland’s fault he isn’t being used properly.

by Irishphan on Oct 14, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

its Ireland's fault that they don't have two solid running backs

ahead of him so he doesn’t have to be the every down back.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Nobody could have predicted Thomas's injury problems.

Bush would be doing a lot better if he ran sweeps, ratter than in between the tackle runs every carry

by Irishphan on Oct 14, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

However the homeless dude with a dolphins cap could have

predicted that a rookie would struggle to carry the load

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions

he is struggling to stay healthy

he have done a great job carrying the load in both games that he played

Officially on board with Suck for Luck

by biggaandbadda on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions

The disappointment lies with Lex Hilliard

I thought this guy was better than he is. I really thought he would finally break out and become a solid player for us but that didnt happen.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Oct 15, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions

We've never actually been able to distinguish who did what throughout the tenure here.

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by Farorefox on Oct 14, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

You forgot bess in the excellent category

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by finzrule on Oct 14, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions

I consider UDFA as part of the draft class

If he really valued him he would of drafted him. He got lucky.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

So in other words its ok

to blame him for things that were not his call. But not ok to give him credit where he clearly deserves it? Ill use your defense from earlier there are 31 other teams that could have had Bess but IRELAND got him.

by AcolyteofRa on Oct 14, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I've said he deserves credit

and that he’s his only hit for UDFAs. But its not fair to say to he’s some type of genius for selecting him. If he really knew he was going to be great he would have drafted him. He got lucky.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not giving too much credit to Ireland

Good slot WR’s are routinely ignored by the NFL due to their size. The best slot WR’s in the game all went undrafted. Welker, Bess, Amendola

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Oct 15, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I say keep

the roster is loaded with talent the problem lies in how that talent is being used. It should not fall on Ireland if the coach cant get a player to perform up to their talent. Keep him but kick him in the shin as a warning. Finish this build or your next.

by AcolyteofRa on Oct 14, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions

um the defensive coaching staff is stacked.

Mike Nolan is one of the most respected defensive minds in the game. Bill Sheridan is also highly rated. Todd Bowels is regarded highly around the league as well.
The defense isn’t performing because they lack talent. Not coaching.
Tony Sparano ran the Cowboys offense when it was one of the best in the league. He had talent.
We got rid of Dan Henning. Changed the philosophy, tried everything. It’s the talent. It’s lacking.
You overvalue coaching. Talent wins games.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions

respected/highly rated doesn’t mean they’re good. Nolan hasn’t shown me anything since week 3 in 2010. You can make the case Nolan’s D won both @ Buffalo and @ Minny. Since then has has done nothing that shows me he anything more than average. Yes Dansby has been a disappointment and KB is all but invisible. Having 2 horrible safties doesn’t help anyone case either. Elite players makes you elite, everything else is coaching

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by Mannieblunts on Oct 14, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Talent does win games

But using that talent to create mismatches is crucial. The coaching staff doesn’t do that. How many times are we gonna run Bush up the middle (his weakness)? Or throw fades to Brian Hartline in the endzone instead the much bigger Brandon Marshall? It seems like the coaching staff plays to their players weaknesses instead of strength in an effort to confuse teams. Obviously that doesn’t work.

Also, the defense was top five last year with most the same players. Does that mean they were talented last year then accidently lost it all this year? That would not be Ireland’s fault.

While I believe this team’s problem is the head coach’s inability to get the most out of his players and create mismatches, if they don’t win, I doubt Ireland will be able to stick around as well.

Roberto Wallace is the next Miles Austin. That means it will be at least two more seasons before he's a game changer

by mikey2380 on Oct 14, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions

People are also discounting how a new player's personality with mesh with the team.

I’d take a new GM over firing TS. In my book they both need to go.

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by FinFanFromCA on Oct 14, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

Me too

If I could fire one man, it would easily be Ireland over Sparano. It appears some members of the fanbase have over estimated the “talent” that Ireland has brought in or drafted, and think we should be doing better if we “used Bush right” or other nonsense. The real problem is that we’re not that talented a football team, although I agree we should have a better record than we do.

Ireland is mediocre and it all starts from the top. Sparano is just the messanger.

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB

by zeusmith on Oct 14, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Ridiculous outcome to this vote.

Says it all.

by sirdolphin on Oct 14, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions

I'm FIRMLY in the fire Ireland camp

I do not think the Dolphins have drafted well at all. There was a recent FanPost about this which compared the Green Bay drafts since 2006 to the Dolphins drafts, and it was a HUGE mismatch. I can’t even credit Ireland for Jake Long since ANYBODY could do well with the #1 overall pick. There just have been too many high round busts like Philip Merling et al. We deserve better here in Miami. I don’t see us “loaded” with talent like some believe.

I will go so far as to say Ireland has maybe done “OK”, but even in that best-case scenario depended upon viewpoint, it’s not good enough. It’s time for a new direction after 5 years. Oh yeah, I also wasn;t too gung ho on the Reggie Bush deal and Brian Daboll signing. With Bush, it was pretty obvious (to me anyway) he was over rated based on his stellar college career, and that he didnt develop into the explosive back many thought he’d be. I argued fervishrishly that it was all in the numbers – and if he could hack it in NO what made people think he would turn it around in Miami. Never made sense to me. And I felt Ireland should have hired a more proven OC instead of Daboll, who had never experienced success in the NFL. The previous year, he lead the Browns to a pathetic total yards disaster.

Convoluted rant over.

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB

by zeusmith on Oct 14, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions

fire him

But I think if we get luck, gruden or rob ryan would be better HCs than cowher, I’m also intrigued by some college coaches and coordinators we could bring in. I think Cowher will build in the steelers way, and would build a killer D and O-line first, and have a mediocre qb. You guys realize he didn’t even attempt to get the steelers a franchise qb for 10 years, and didn’t win a SB until he landed a franchise qb. He seems like type to pick matt kalil over barkley or jones if we have the 5th overall pick.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

So your assuming he didnt learn anything from that experience??

I would assume he would try getting the franchise QB earlier this time LOL

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by Souwantmyname on Oct 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Cowher

He went to the Super Bowl with Neil O’Donnell who was a pretty good QB. After O’Donnell retired they drafted Kordell Stewart, who had varied success. Stewart (a 2nd round pick) lasted in Pittsburgh until 2003. In 2004, Cowher drafted Roethlisberger. I wouldn’t say that Pittsburgh went without a QB. He’s also the one that drafted Roethlisberger so it’s safe to assume he wouldn’t pass over a first round QB.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 15, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I think Griffin is the sort of QB that Cowher would LOVE.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Griffen is a beast!

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 15, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

For sure.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

exactly

If cowher came in, he would draft matt kalil with the 5th overall pick instead of Barkley or Jones, and Griffin in the 2nd rd instead of Nate Potter.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 15, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I am willing to bet that Griffin does not last to the second round.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 15, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

doubt it

He is the 4th best qb in this class, maybe even 5th behind lindley or foles.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 15, 2011 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Some experts are calling him the 2nd QB on the board

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by Farorefox on Oct 15, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions

i think he will have the 2nd best career of them all

But he will be better served by staying in school, if we are picking around 15th, then take him.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 15, 2011 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

He is shooting up that board pretty fast.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I always hate it when picks come out of nowhere. Makes it harder to predict success

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by Farorefox on Oct 16, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Sometimes the scouts and experts were aware of them all along. It takes the public and fans

as a whole a little longer to find them at times. Especially if they are from a school like Baylor.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

but none of them were franchise qbs

They got the job done, relying on the D to win the games. He couldn’t win the SB until roethlisberger came in. He wants a qb that gets the job done, not one that makes a difference.

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by AnishB15 on Oct 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

They expected them to be

Neil O’Donnell was a very good QB for Pittsburgh and was what they needed. Stewart had some very good times and some rough times, but once they determined slash wasn’t what they needed, they drafted Roethlisberger. If Cowher is in position to draft Luck in Miami, I would guarantee you that he does it.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

exactly

Why anybody would hold it against Cowher for not getting a franchise QB sooner is beyond me. Besides, didn’t O’Donnell get Pittsburgh to the SB in 1996?

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB

by zeusmith on Oct 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I can only judge Ireland off this season, cause I dont know how much say he had in the other drafts

Ireland did a great job of drafting. Pouncey and Thomas look like future pro bowler. Clay look good last week. Wilson look like a solid player so far. Gates has been the only disappointed so far. I know a lot of people are upset that we didn’t select a Qb but who was he suppose to get? All the 1st round prospect were gone and if he had got Dalton with the 15th pick people would have been upset and argue we could have got him in the 2nd but can you imagine this O line without Pouncey. Dalton would never survive back there

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by biggaandbadda on Oct 14, 2011 9:44 PM EDT reply actions

Also everybody was happy when we had replace Crowder with Burnett

Bush, Marshall, Dansby and Burnett were all playmakers before they came here. Is it Ireland fault that players come here and joke around?

Officially on board with Suck for Luck

by biggaandbadda on Oct 14, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Bush is not a bust.... Just because they use him like he's Jerome bettis, doesn't make bush a bust

Put bush on new England and he torches us all day and night.

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 14, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions

^this^

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Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Good OC's know how to exploit mismatches

Daboll is a joke

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Oct 15, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions

all or nothing

If ross decides to clean house you have to ditch coach and gm. If one is kept, he will just be fired in a season or two. Chuck it all out and start again or give them more time

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by kevyfranchise on Oct 15, 2011 1:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Tried finding the Video. I got lazy though. LOL. This is just one of many Mistakes by Ireland.

This an Article from Mocking the Draft about us picking Koa Misi. LOL. This is what we have Folks.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/4/26/1445996/dolphins-scout-wrong-player-from

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by FinFanFromCA on Oct 15, 2011 1:58 AM EDT reply actions

if your gonna clean house( HC and his cronies), then dont forget the attic( ireland)

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by smokinjoe699 on Oct 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions

You can only really judge Ireland on this last draft and off season. Holding him accountable for the strings that

Parcells was pulling is unfair at best.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions

That's fine to say that

But then you have to question the purpose of keeping a Parcells protege around when we showed him the door already.

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by zeusmith on Oct 15, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions

We didn't show him the door, Parcells knew where it was and used it.

This past draft is the only one Ireland can truely be accounted for.

As for the Free Agents, I believe the coaches have a lot of say in those decisions as well.

Lets look at this draft class to see how Ireland faired.

1. Pouncey: Playing outstanding for a guy thought to be not worth the 15th pick overall. If we didnt get him, New York Giants would have in RD 1. Solid.

2. Daniel Thomas: We had to trade up to get him,but in the two games he actually did play,he showed promise. Could be solid ir he can stay healthy. Solid

4. Clyde Gates: Has not had an impact,but cant be helped playing behind a core that features Marshall,Hartline,Bess. Will take a season or two to assess,which is fair for the Wide Reciever position. TBD

6. Charles Clay: Has shown a couple of flashes,especially for a 6th round pick. Hard to find value in this round,but could actually show to be of good use in the future. Solid.

7a: Fields: Didn’t make the team,but not too devistating considering he was a seventh round pick.

7b: Wilson: Would arguably be our best value for pick. Slated to be a second round pick before his altercation,he fell to the seventh round. Solid.

5 for 7 solid picks. Not bad,if you ask me. He should stay,but on a short leash,until another draft class or two.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 15, 2011 5:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Not buying it

You can’t tell me Ireland, a Parcells hand picked protege, didn’t have a very large part to do with the players drafted over the past 5 years even if he didnt have the final say. Pat White was apparently an exclusively-Ireland pick for example. Parcells clearly didnt work out here so why do I want someone wih near identical philosophies leading this club?

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by zeusmith on Oct 15, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Pat White was an exclusive Ireland pick????????????

There were multiple reports of Parcells raving about White to several of his friends BEFORE the draft. I don’t think that Ireland ate a meal without checking with the very controlling Parcells.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

White was a Parcells pick

Parcells even admitted to it on his ESPN special. He was disappointed he broke his own “rules” for drafting QBs and then pinned the blame on him drafting White on others because so many scouts were raving about White to him.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 16, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I know. Not sure how so much revisionist history makes it here but it does so in spades.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I stand corrected then

I read on some blog White was an Ireland pick. Main point stands though – even though Ireland didnt have final say in the last 5 drafts, he was a major part of it. It’s been a pretty dismal display. No need for a Parcells protege to stick around any longer.

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by zeusmith on Oct 16, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

It depends. None of us can really judge him on anything but this offseason. If you think it was shit then I see your point but if not then maybe he should get another chance.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions

None of us can really judge him on anything but this offseason.

But that’s the part I can’t get on board with. Ireland was the GM and had the main ear of Parcell’s during those drafts. You can’t give Ireland a free pass just because it wasn’t only him picking. I agree it’s all Ireland now however.

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by zeusmith on Oct 16, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I think of it more as Parcells was making all the calls or at least most of the big ones that mattered.

He wanted a bigger title than just GM but in the end it was him with the final say on all moves.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh and don't get me wrong. I am not going to be really upset or pissed if Ireland has to move on

(depending on who replaces him) I just don’t feel that all the blame being laid at his feet is fair.

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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Well there was on GM who struggled initially too...

His owner (Hugh Culverhouse) also had his own opinions and the GM struggled. In fact, his team was worse than Miami ever was. He went 0-26 before he resigned.

Luckily he had a tremendous career with Green Bay. It’s some fellow named Ron Wolf.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 17, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I am among the group that would like the entire staff gone (except maybe Nolan)...

Find a new GM, and hire an extablished HC (ex. Cowher). and then let the coach fill out his staff and make a decision on Nolan…

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by #1Heatfan on Oct 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions

kick

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Oct 16, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

the only FA players i like

Starks, Fasano, Bess, and McDaniel. CP10 fell into our laps. Wake is a one year wonder. He’s done nothing this year except get a few coverage sacks. He’s not getting any pressure this year.

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Oct 16, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions

KICK

The guy who got Bush over Bradshaw and wanted Kyle Orton, to which Ross had to put a stop to it? KICK.

If Ross didn’t stop him, we may have Orton, which means we may have been stuck with him and would have to wait longer for us to finally draft a 1st round QB.

Ireland has been mediocre…we don’t want mediocre anymore. It’s all we’ve had for 11 years.

by hbkDolphins on Oct 17, 2011 1:38 AM EDT reply actions

did any one see the int Pig face was so happy, hell his team aint got a first down yet!

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 17, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions

revis is tost damn he drops it !

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by wild zion beaver on Oct 17, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions