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This is going to the last post I write for awhile that even mentions "Suck for Luck", "Whiffin' for Griffin", "Blown for Jones", or any other type of moniker that requests Miami lose for a certain player.  The place is just inundated enough with that.  The only thing left to talk about with Andrew Luck is what number he'd take because #12 is retired.

It only took two weeks for some people to jump on any of the above mentioned "Wagons" and maybe three or four weeks for others.  Some people were hoping Miami would tank for any of them before the season even started.  I'm not going to talk whether it's right or wrong we already know we'll never get a final answer to that question.

So now that many people are on those "Wagons," what would it take for them to jump back off and get back on the "Winning for the sake of winning" wagon?

Before I start, I am not interested in hearing "But this won't happen" or "The chances are extremely slight it would happen."  That won't be the point of this post.  My point is purely theoretical.

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Let's say, again for theory's sake, that Matt Moore starts lighting it up, starting against a very good pass defense on Monday Night against the Jets.  What if his stat line looks something like 28-39, 349 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 INTs?  If Miami wins 31-28 during Moore's sudden uprising, would people start backing off the losing wagons and back Moore?  If not then, how many performances would it take?  Would you have to see three performances in a row to get behind Moore?  Four?  Five? 

If he somehow turns the franchise around and we finish 7-9 or 8-8 (yes, I know people don't want that), would people go into the offseason thinking "You know what, I think we have our starter" or would you encourage Miami to still spend a first round pick on a QB, even if it meant trading up?  Again, let's say Moore finishes that 7-9 or 8-8 and his stat line for the season looks something like 278-436 (64% completion), 3,488 yards (8.0 YPA), 20 TDs, 7 INTs and a QB Rating of 91.0.  Is that enough to back off demands for a first round pick and back Moore?  Is it simply too late and Moore can't do anything to persuade you from wishing Miami to tank for a top QB?

Once again, I'm not interested in any skeptics that say it won't happen because of Moore's previous attempts or how unlikely it is.  Yes, it isn't likely to happen.  I know that, but crazy stuff happens.  Drew Brees wasn't expected to suddenly turn it around in SD and Tom Brady, a 6thround pick, wasn't expected to lead New England to a Super Bowl title after an 0-2 start.  Kurt Warner wasn't expected to go from grocery bagger to NFL MVP and potential HoF QB and  Mark Sanchez wasn't expected to pose in tight white pants.  There's a bunch of crazy stuff that happens in the NFL and I don't expect Moore to go off on a tear. So don't even start with the "It won't happen" or "We'll still suck" things and just think of how you'd respond to this theoretical ending instead of trying to pick it apart.

Poll
What would it take to get off the Suck for Whoever Bandwagon and get on the "More of Moore" Bandwagon?
I'll get behind him if he plays solid against the Jets
22 votes
I'll get behind him if he plays solid for the next 3 weeks
21 votes
I'll get behind him if he plays solid for the next 8 weeks
12 votes
I'll get behind him if he plays solid for the rest of the season
32 votes
There is nothing Moore can do for me to back him
40 votes
I'm be behind any QB under center no matter how they perform.
9 votes

136 votes | Poll has closed

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Here is my thing....

I don’t consider myself to be on the “Suck for Luck” bandwagon. I can’t actively root for this team to lose. I can, however, acknowledge that losing as often as possible this season will probably make for a brighter future. So while I am always wanting this team to win, I at least can see the silver lining if they keep losing. Having said that, it would really take a miracle to get me to want them to do anything else in the draft next year than get a first round QB. It’s nothing against Moore, but I just feel that this team needs a fresh start in multiple places, the most obvious being HC, GM and QB. So one great game from Moore won’t change my position on that. If Moore can get this team back to a record of 6-6 with four to play, then I might be able to be convinced that he can be the guy we need. But other than that, I think I will still look for this team to get a big name in April. If for no other reason than it would finally signify that the organization realizes that its way of doing things for the last fifteen years hasnt worked at all.

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Oct 14, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Fair enough

I’m not shocked by the response either. Honestly, I don’t know how I feel which is one reason I came up with this idea. I have similar sentiments with you seeing some form of silver lining if we do continue to play poorly, but won’t root for losses. I will root for some wins out of Indy, Seattle, and Denver though that can giving us breathing room, allow us to win, and still be in a good enough position to draft Luck if we don’t turn it around. Likewise, if Moore can turn Miami around into a winning team, I think I would back him, but it’d take several solid performances throughout the season.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

^This^

I was pissed when I saw the Chiefs beat Indy. I thought for sure the Colts had one.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Oct 14, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I"ve taken the not to get too high, not to get too low

I’ve seen it all throughout the years with this team, as I’m sure all of you have done so as well. Nothing surprises you…you can see the opening drive of a game whether is its on O or D and i’m quite confident you’d be able to paint the picture of just exactly how this game will go. I don’t need to share how much I’m invested in this team..not monetary but with time…the dedication of it. So with that said, I want this team to finally invest in a piece that will give them to 1. get with the times of the NFL. 2. Give this fan a base a reason for optimism. 3. Give the FO a chance to focus on pieces that work well with a potentially gr8 Quarterback. I understand that sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward…and thats will this team will have to do. I hate the we have to rebuild. I hate that we have studs on this team that have burned quality years with this lost team. B. Marsh, Reggie Bush, Wake, Starks, plenty others…. Sucking for Luck, or blow for Jo…..nes. Whiffen for Griffen….will be the best thing for this franchise. For this fan base. So rooting for your team to suck…although tough when you hear it from your guys that bleed the teal and orange…in the back of your mind, down in your heart, you know that it will force what we’ve been waiting for. No ifs and or buts. Just beat the jets twice this year…and maybe slip in a win against BUF/NE that takes them out of the playoffs or a lower seed.

by Phins4life2334 on Oct 16, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally a topic for real debate. We'll see how long until the wagoners tear it apart.

I actually voted for nothing because I do not believe Moore can post the numbers you mentioned with this team (barring a serious upgrade in the coaching and O-Line play).
Even if he did we should still draft a future QB in round 1 if certain guys are still there (such as Jones though he is doubtful to escape the top 10) because Moore will be on year 2 of his 2 year deal and he would still have had only the one good year. I would draft Jones if possible and let him compete with Moore for the starting job and may the best man win. If Moore wins and has a second stellar season then I try to re-sign him to be my starter but he would command big $$ and lots of attention from other teams.
Still if he signs elsewhere we would still have a QB to turn to and if he re-signs here then I would at least have a potential franchise QB as a backup in case we have a game in San Diego.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I never was a SCHUMCK FOR LUCK

Before all of you give your final answer on being on this bandwagon,check to see how Carolina finishes the season with Cam Newton no 1 pick Qb starting for them.Compare their record last year with the one they end up this year and see how many wins they improve.

by broxtone on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well...

They already have as many wins as last year and Carolina’s offense has improved significantly. Yes, they’re 1-4, but they lost to teams like New Orleans, Green Bay, and Chicago, all of them playoff teams with at least 10 wins last year. They have been competitive in every game as well. Yes, Carolina may not light the NFL on fire and they may not instantly be a 7-9 team, but you can’t say Newton is not doing his part.

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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think people forget that we

were honestly predicting that we would come out of the first 4 games at 1-3. We are only one off that pace. We are only 3 games behind the Wildcard race. There is sooo much to play for still.

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by Phinphinatic on Oct 14, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hell yeah lol

I didn’t vote because there was no listing for the people that never jumped on any wagon except wanting to win !

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by daytonadolfan on Oct 14, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This^

I’ve been busy with my kid this week, haven’t been around too much, but I’m never rooting for losses…………..

Did my best, good luck Sparano, good luck Henne, looks like ch-ch-ch-changes.....

by Red Dog on Oct 14, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am ALREADY behind Moore !

I think most of the “suck4Luck” fans STILL want miami to win….but have just realized that’s its almost impossible to turn 0-4 into a playoff berth. For me that’s what it takes this year – playoffs – to stay with Henne and Tony S. for another year… nothing less. At this point – we have almost no chance of winning enough games to be in the playoffs.
We already have 3 AFC conf. losses… so that hurts the WC chase a lot – even if we can rip off a few wins back to back….
BUT – I think Moore is going to be a good QB the rest of the way – BETTER THAN HENNE. I watched how quickly moore got the ball out last week, he made quick decisions and threw it well. also, he will throw it up for Marshall and LET HIM make a play. I PREDICT A BIG GAME FOR MARSHALL AND MOORE vs Jets.
but I really feel like our DEF has already quit on this team….they have more talent than the offense – and yet play like sh*t…..so yea I will scream my head off for this team EVERY game – but at the end if we lose – I just remember that its for the best…getting rid of tony s. , Jeff the douche, and Henne (who just insnt a franchise QB) even though he has really tried….. I would even resign him as a backup for next year….
But i’m drafting LUCK – or Landry Jones for man sure……..
no matter what I have to trade – picks or players (including Wake, Long, Marshall, vontae, Starks, Dansby…no one on this horrible team is worth more than Luck or Jones….
We draft one and rebuild the team from scratch if need be…..

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by 62Lou on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Not to make the situation worse...

But we have 4 conference losses. Losses to SD and Houston could be especially tough if Miami did turn it around because they may be WC contenders.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree about the D

Did my best, good luck Sparano, good luck Henne, looks like ch-ch-ch-changes.....

by Red Dog on Oct 14, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on how he play

If he play pretty decently, I would not mind him starting next year as a stop gap or caretaker so our drafted QB can developed.

But lets say he goes on a 12 game winning streak (which is highly unlikely) and makes a decent run deep into playoffs. I would not mind at all give him the keys to the franchise, never know we can have a Drew Brees like QB…

Don’t forget Moore never been on a team with as much talent we have, he can be good with a legitimate shot….

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by phins93 on Oct 14, 2011 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Regardless

Of how Moore plays … I want a first round QB in next years draft. Before Henne got hurt … I said the same thing. It’s the only thing we haven’t tried since Marino. Why not just try the one thing we haven’t tried … and see if it makes a difference. :: insert definition of insanity here :: …

by Zsnoop on Oct 14, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

coonsidering that i never jumped off the winning bandwagon

I would have to say that i will back Moore, Devlin, or who ever stands behind Pouncey. I do like the slogan Schmucks for Luck though..it is clever… I have slowed down my posting and visiting to the sight since the overwhelming attitude shifted to losing for Luck.

It is hard to be around fans who want there team to lose.

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by Phinphinatic on Oct 14, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think the "fans" that actually root for the team to lose are very few...

While the vast majority just want a concrete change in philosophy and someone with a relivant style that reflects this era’s offenses. We as Dolphin fans are at our wits end rooting for average or below average teams, year in and year out. Franchise QB and regime change are the prize this year…sick of dwelling in the NFL’s basement. Get Luck by any means nessicary…just don’t PURPOSSELY SUCK FOR HIM! Which I whole-heartedly believe the PLAYERS would never do. GO DOLPHINS!

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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's absolutely no way the players or coaches are tanking for Luck

Many of them are playing for their jobs. With a new regime comes new philosophies and new rosters. I would be absolutely shocked if Ross told Sparano to suck on purpose and he’d bring them back in 2012 so you know Sparano is not trying to tank this season. They’re doing everything they can to win.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

Never suck for Luck! Beg, borrow, steal, kill or sell the farm! Just get him!
Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm reposting one of my replies from a fanshot because I believe it's so relivant to this topic...

“Does anyone truely believe…

the players would actually tank games for a college player, no matter how good? C’mon, I could see Ireland under Ross’s direction making questionable personel decisions, oh wait he already does that. The players are’nt going to fuck-up potential contracts negotiations cause they tanked to get a team their franchise QB. At least not in the FA era."

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Just don't SUCK for anyone or anything!
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Oct 14, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched the SD game 3 times

& while Moore made a couple of mistakes, he also threw some hella passes! Plenty were dropped, but they were in the right place for the recievers to grab & keep running. I am just scared the OL will just let him get killed, even Big Jake has been sucking this year! I also wonder why Henne didnt want to try & come back this season? I see many people playing hurt & that was his non-throwing shoulder, whats up with that? A dislocated non-throwing shoulder and he doesnt want to play? I think somewhere internally, Henne just didnt have any respect from the team. Henne will be a back-up somewhere next year but I dont see him having a stellar NFL career, this was his 4’th season, and I dont even see him making it as long as Sage has. You cant teach “touch passes” or the fact that he had a “cannon arm” but threw many balls way to short that would have went for 6 alot. I also know that we lead the NFL in dropped passes, so maybe the players just didnt like Henne?? We wont ever truly know, but we do know his team-mates have blasted him before & even Crowder. Plus, we gave to much money to Burnett who had 1 good season in 6 years. A contract year, he made some plays, got paid, and whats he doing now? A career bench-ST player,everyone seemed to love this signing, I didnt. He was pretty much a bum untill last year and I know Crowder wasnt great, but his presence is missed and he wouldnt have been worse than Burnett!

I just hope we dont have a repeat of the Bears game from last season where this time Moore will be running for his life like Thigpen did.

Even if Moore wins us a Super Bowl, I still would like a 1’st rd QB, we havent tried since 1983, time to try! We spent a pick on Odrick when we already had a good d-line, if you really think about it, Merling was a 1’st (Pats lost their pick because of spygate) & he was pick #32. Langford was a 3rd, we have Starks.

We are many, many pieces away from being elite! Either way I want a 1’st rd QB though

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by E_Dove on Oct 14, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Henne wanted to come back....

The doctors told him he HAD to have surgery, and that it would be worse if he got hit in it again.

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by Kevin Nogle on Oct 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always been on the winning for the sake of winning wagon.

Always.

But I am a benevolent god and will allow anyone back on.

As long as you bring beer.

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Oct 14, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I never jumped of the winning wagon...

And I ALWAYS have beer…….can I stay?

Did my best, good luck Sparano, good luck Henne, looks like ch-ch-ch-changes.....

by Red Dog on Oct 14, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if we drink beer arn't we off the wagon? lol

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by daytonadolfan on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Play Solid?

Great, if he plays solid then we can be Mediocre of another decade and a half. Yippy!

by Saulus on Oct 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nobody is rooting for the phins to lose, however if they do, we will be on step closer to a fresh start with this team

Nobody is saying " man, I hope they get their ass kicked by the jets on Monday", I’ll take the number one pick and everyone laughing at how bad my team is rather than going 7-9 or 6-10 and nobody talking about my team period.

The team is sucking for luck, not the fans, their missing tackles, blowing assignments, dropping balls…. They’re a quarter of the way in on delivering luck gift wrapped for us themselves, yet we are the problem?! U know what’s “corny as f*ck” will Allen, the lack of a defense here that can stop somebody when it matters. Watching the dolphins play is as enjoyable as a Root canal, yet as miserable as we are were still here posting and giving a damn, I don’t know if the same can be said about these coaches or players on this team.

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Trust me, Tony puts way too much time into our team, the losses hurt him AT LEAST as much as us

I think Ross is to blame for a lot, and he’s the one skimping on the payroll, forcing us to play $ games with guys like Will Allen and cut Polite. I would have extended Langford before franchising Soliai……

Did my best, good luck Sparano, good luck Henne, looks like ch-ch-ch-changes.....

by Red Dog on Oct 14, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sparano I'm sure cares about winning However he has shown that he's not qualified to be a head coach

The ineffectiveness and downright stupidity in the utilizing of bush’s talents, revolving door on the oline which is supposed to be his strength, Ross was right to go after harbaugh, but he turned the job down to stay in northern California, and he was stuck with sparano, gruden wasn’t ready yet to leave the booth either, there’s reports that it’s grudens job if he wants it. Ross doesn’t have anything o do with player personel decision IMO, they drafted clay so they released polite, allen was hurt thru most of the preseason and Tony even said he cut him because he didn’t get enough playing time to warrant giving him a spot on the roster over guys that were there day in and day out working, these are coaching decisions not ownership decisions IMO.

"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming NEXT FALL apparently....

by sonnycrockett on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The suck for Luck fans cant control what the team does

Us suck for Luck fans are just looking on the bright side. What we say on this site has nothing to do with us losing games

Officially on board with Suck for Luck

by biggaandbadda on Oct 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm surprised that 28%, the largest portion of the ballot, will not get behind Moore at all.

I feel sorry for him. He can absolutely tear it up and the fan base still won’t pull for him. A lame duck coach and a lame duck QB…

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by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

He did use the word "solid"

which implies playing like a Top 15, possibly Top 12 QB and winning us some games. If he throws for 300 ypg with 20+ TDs and has a RAT over 110 the rest of the season, well that’s something different…that’s usually not how people explain to be “solid”.

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by BlackPack-fan on Oct 14, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did say solid

I didn’t want to go overboard and say elite, but I even gave a theoretical stat line and record. The answer would be all to obvious if I based a theory on him having a QB Rating of 110, which would rank high in the all-time record books.

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by Finhead83 on Oct 14, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four weeks.

That’s what it took for me to give up on the season, that’s what it would take to get me back in it. And I don’t want Chad-Henne-Acceptable level of QB play. Matt Moore will have to go absolutely crazy to raise my excitement level above bemused indifference. Moore can’t do it on his own, either. Even with stellar QB play, if our defense keeps playing like a sinking ship, I’ll still be hoping for better in April.

My interpretation of Suck for Luck, a camp I am deeply embedded in, doesn’t necessarily preclude rooting for the Dolphins. In my case, and I’m sure others feel the same, I simply can’t bring myself to care about this season. I want them to win every game—but the cycle of ineptitude has completely broken any expectation of winning I had coming into the season. The slapstick level of play has left me feeling that, despite our best efforts, we can’t win. Rooting for or against the team likely won’t upset an imagined karmic balance. It will not anger the Sports Gods. Ride the Suck for Luck train and cheer your heart out; our collected positive energy has netted us seven straight losses.

Everyone else has already summed it up. We want a fresh start. Mediocrity shouldn’t be acceptable.

by Bread on Oct 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I understand your sentiment, but you and the others on the stupid suck off just need to admit to yourselves that you're weak

NEVER give up caring about the season. ESPECIALLY only 4 games in…..

A new QB, a bye week, guys getting healthy…….could be a turnaround ahead.

I think the FO is toast due to owner BS and impatient fanbase, but if given time we could see a Texan-like emergence with our team

Did my best, good luck Sparano, good luck Henne, looks like ch-ch-ch-changes.....

by Red Dog on Oct 14, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I'm for winning and fully support the dolphins

Anything short of the playoffs is a season of failure and just like any good business, you got to survive losses to gain a lucrative future. I know for sure the players will be giving 100%, but I just think Ross have his eye on Luck, meaning that he will order Sparano to field a team who will only be able to compete, hence is why Henne has called it a year. With that said I will support the players and win or lose, I want an honest #1 pick, meaning that all players go out to play to retain their respective jobs next season, anything less, we clean house.

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by fin4three5yrs on Oct 14, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the M.O. on Irsay

over there in Manningland.

Heard the comment on 105.7 FM (in Baltimore).

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by Tunaflipper on Oct 14, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a great thought...

I think the Phins fans are so far down the road of defeatism that Moore could take the team to the playoffs and there would still be an sizeable portion of them that would be upset. Imagine these same fans when the FO trades away the farm to get Luck or some other top rated QB, then the QB isn’t developing fast enough and the chants for Orton start again. I mean really, are these truly the fans? These same Suckers for Luck are the same ones that want all the best picks, trades, coaches and everything else. But based on many of the comments here, there is not much anyone on this team can do to turn many of these fans around. For me, I hope the team wins out the rest of the year. If not, I hope they beat the Jets both times. If they get the #1 pick, so be it. Hopefully they pick smartly. But one college grad is not going to win the superbowl when there are so many other issues.

by SkinscountryPhinfan on Oct 14, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to win

but I have no confidence in Moore.

The only Chad Henne supporter left.

by Gamer2102 on Oct 14, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

With the present players on both sides of the ball

…and the way they’re currently playing, Nobody has to sandbag to lose games. We may have individual talent but we are simply a bad team led by incompetent coaches playing as hard as we can to win.

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by CanT0o on Oct 14, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless he takes us to the playoffs

I wanna c a new qb

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by finzrule on Oct 14, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I want Moore to do well and I want to win. If Moore were to somehow come out at the end of the year looking

like Rodgers, Manning, Brady or Brees even just a enough to believe that’s where he’s headed then I MIGHT back off the idea of picking a QB in the first round of next years draft.

Bottom line-Unless we win around 10 games you can not say this team has improved over last year. This would of course require going 10 and 2 or maybe 9 and 3 over the next 12 games which is so much more than unlikely. With that lack of improvement I can not see the owner sticking with this coaching staff past this year given that he was ready to make the change last off season. So now we are all but assured of seeing Ross go after some big name like a Cowher or Fisher to come in here and right this ship. I can not imagine that either of these guys will not want their own guy at QB especially given the amazing depth at that position in this upcoming draft (assuming everyone we think will come out comes out).

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by texascowpunk on Oct 15, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I posted a simular topic last week, I want the fins to win whoever the QB is

I am still for getting a franchise QB by way of the draft whoever he is named luck, jones.

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by smokinjoe699 on Oct 15, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Ron jaworski for HC

lol, i know , he’s probably not coach material, but in an interview on" finsiders" he called every thing thats wrong with this team, on offense and defense. The guy knows football, and at least ross could use him as a consultant to pick a good coach , or coaches to help “right the ship”. If “jaws” can see it so clearly, why can’t our coaching staff see it? It’s a mystery to me why tony or his staff can’t seem to realize that bush is not a between the tackles back, or why the right side of our O line is so weak, or even the fact that we need a TE out to catch balls , rather than being an extra blocker all the time. I’m just drawing at straws now , but maybe ross needs to bring some football minds in to camp in the offseason, and rebuild this team from the ground up. I’m still hoping we start winning games( monday’s to start with !) and turn our season around , but we still need huge change next year and early planning can’t hurt ! Go Phins… Beat the jests !

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by daytonadolfan on Oct 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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