Saturdays to Sundays--College Players Who Could Soon Be Miami Dolphins
Since these posts started last month, I've been telling everyone here that no 2012 quarterback prospects would be featured until at least November or December. Well, when I said that, I actually meant Oct. 13. Surprised? You shouldn't be. Chad Henne's season-ending shoulder injury was likely the final nail in the coffin of his career as a Miami Dolphin, and the recent signing of Sage Rosenfels couldn't have been any less of a vote of confidence for Matt Moore.
The quarterback issue in Miami is a lot like the Saw film series: gruesome to watch, and something that has lasted a lot longer than you hoped it would. If you think this team is absolutely cursed by the fact it never got Dan Marino a Lombardi trophy, you're probably right. And if you think the only way the Dolphins can break this Marino curse is by doing the unthinkable and drafting a quarterback within the first 32 picks, you're even more right. After all, the Dolphins organization has found almost every imaginable way to whiff on a franchise-caliber quarterback. Drew Brees wants to play in Miami? Let's pass on him for a dwarf Wisconsin corner who looks like Urkel. And once Brees' rookie contract is up, let's make sure to give him a physical and analyze his shoulder with a level of obsessive zeal that guarantees he'll never willingly return to South Florida (unless it's to win the Super Bowl with New Orleans in our stadium, of course). We have the No.2 pick in a draft where the 49ers are going to take Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers? Why would we want Rodgers? He'll only grow to one day represent all that is right with the the pass-first NFL. No big deal, and it's not like a Dolphins quarterback should have a beak that big anyway.
Without a stud quarterback, your chances of getting to the Super Bowl are nonexistent. Fortunately for us, there's a few blue-chip caliber quarterback prospects in this draft, including a player (Andrew Luck) who could be the highest-rated QB prospect of all time (and if he isn't the highest rated, he's at least in the ballpark). But what if we're not bad enough and Luck is long gone by the time we make our first pick next April? Perhaps we'll draft this guy.
Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma
Doesn't he play in the spread offense?
How right you are. Jones spends a lot of time in the shotgun, and certainly plays in an offense conducive to putting up big numbers. Jones is far from a one-trick-pony, however, and has taken a fair amount of snaps from under center while playing in Norman, Okla. Also noteworthy is his mental approach to the game, as Jones is very good at selling play action and looking off defenders, and is smart and decisive while scanning the field.
Yes, Jones' footwork can look sloppy and needs some refining (as many spread quarterbacks do), and he has a tendency to trust his arm too much and let it rip without even bothering to step into the throw, but Jones' mechanics are very solid for the most part, and should get even better at the next level.
How does he stack up to Andrew Luck?
Landry Jones is sort of like the yin to Andrew Luck's yang. You want a quarterback who is ultra-likeable and has the smarts to essentially manipulate any defense in his way? Then Luck's your guy. But if you want a quarterback prospect with more of a quiet demeanor, as well as the arm strength and accuracy to blow holes in any defense in his way, then you might want to consider Jones. True to Oklahoma's offensive mindset, Landry Jones has a "gun now, ask questions later" approach to playing football, and will rarely hesitate to put the ball in the air if he thinks his man can get behind coverage. Fitting the ball into tight windows is something Jones does consistently well, and he also has the rare ability to throw very accurately on the run. In fact, Jones is the most accurate quarterback in this draft (and that includes you-know-who).
Jones' arm strength is somewhere in the neighborhood of ballistic level, and it's easy to get the impression while watching him that he can throw the ball to any part of the field. His release is a quick, three-quarter motion, and he can throw at a high velocity even when his feet aren't completely set. Honestly, you won't find many college quarterbacks who can throw the ball harder and more accurately than Landry Jones. Yet, he's able to take off a bit of heat and throw a very catchable ball, too.
And if you absolutely must compare him to Andrew Luck, think of it like this: Luck's a can't-miss prospect, and Jones is the dark horse with loads of upside and extensive experience running a high-octane college offense.
But he's not Andrew Luck ...
I know, I know ... And I, too, will be disappointed if Stanford boy wonder isn't wearing Dolphins colors next spring. But as fans of a team that will likely undergo yet another regime change, it's important for everyone here to not lose sight of the other big-time quarterbacks in this draft. Are Landry Jones and Matt Barkley better than Andrew Luck? Of course not. But are they capable of being franchise-caliber passers in the NFL. Without a doubt.
Verdict: I'd rather have Andrew Luck (after I just spent the last 900 words convincing you otherwise), but Landry Jones will be much more than a consolation prize to any QB-starved team that falls short in the Luck sweepstakes. If we don't have the No.1 pick, I believe we'll take Jones.
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this is a total waste of time..wish we had this guy..wish we had that guy….you guys need a life…wish i had a million dollars….get real…quit dreaming
by paul wall 1962 on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Way to be not rude! Oh wait never mind!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
My wish list
Includes the hope that more people here will choose a screen name with “Paul Wall” in it.
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And we can only hope that thay are all lacking in basic proper manners too...
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by texascowpunk on Oct 14, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 15, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Started looking for Oklahoma games on weekend just to get a look at Jones. I think the fins will start winning and lose the “suck for luck” sweepstakes. Too bad? Don’t think so, if they can land this Jones QB. Starting to be a Big Fan, too.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck.
Don Schula
No QB we draft will thrive
Unless Ireland, Tony and their puzzling list of coaches is completely swept from the scene, no quarterback we draft could succeed. When Cowher comes in, and I hope he will consider it, this current batch of pretenders will go away and the healing will begin.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
Wait, you actually think this monkey regime has the potential to return next season?
You have a better chance of seeing CBS renew the show “2 Broke Girls” for a second season.
Time to unleash the Greatest Show on Surf!
lol perfect analogy
Laces out!
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2011 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought that was your favorite show!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
lmao...I need to show my wife what you just said. Thats a fav show of hers...lol
Still a believer in having a top tier TE.
by tuscanitunr x2 on Oct 13, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I like 2 Broke Girls
But hate the current situation of the Dolphins.
OUCH!!!
Do your facts about our past draft choices hurt. Oh, how the memory hurts. But hurt is what we need and I thank you for your analysis of the college players.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL CHOOSE A QB NEXT APRIL
NO MATTER who is in charge – next April, we WILL draft a QB in the first round. We will have a top 10 pick, MAYBE 5, depending upon other teams. Got to remember we are not the only losers in the league.
Anybody else strike your fancy besides Luck and Jones? I know it’s early but at least two other names to look at and watch would be helpful. Thanks.
those are the only two guys i want, honestly
We’ve waited to select that top tier guy long enough. I’m sick of this team settling, or waiting until later to try and find that hidden gem. Sure there are the “potential breakouts” in barkley or griffin but this is the year we go ALL IN and sack up to do/give whatever it takes to get a stud. Risk it all for andrew luck and only settle for a Landry Jones.
Are you ready to see this FINALLY team take a risk on a top QB or endure another season of mediocrity under a subpar QB.
This is the year to go ALL IN, with Luck or Jones in the running, we may never get a chance like this again
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-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2011 8:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm more along the same lines
Barkley is a good prospect with his tools, but he does remind me of Mark Sanchez. In fact, both of them pretty much have the same scouting reports that they both have similar abilities, similiar size, but need more experience.
Maybe it’s just the anti-Jet in me, but I will vomit if we end up with Rob Ryan as our HC and Matt Barkley as our QB.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
There's only one reason why a front office would pass on sure-fire talent in favor of "hidden gems"
Ego. We have plenty of that within this organization right now
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agree bro
I would hate either. Do not want a usc qb. Jones and Luck are good as gold and I want either.
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2011 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree, I don't see much in Barkley
And I also agree with the Sanchez comparisons below, he shows some talent but then again, what quarterbacks don’t show talent at some point or another? Landry Jones is as far ahead of Barkley as Luck is ahead of Jones, in my opinion.
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Landry Jones is a great looking quarterback
He almost reminds me of a young Brett Favre, except that Jones’s accuracy seems much better. This guy’s ball placement is unreal, and his arm strength is better than any of the top prospects on this draft. Seems to have good mobility and obviously mechanics need to be worked on a bit. Another thing that has impressed me with him is his ability to improvise when plays break down, he always keeps his eyes downfield and makes the smart play.
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great article mosul and i agree 100%
Andrew Luck is the ultimate prize in this years draft. No player can transform a franchise, give us a leader and revitalize our fan base and spirit like Luck. Simply put, and I know it’s a bold claim, but I will be disappointed if Luck is not our starting QB next year.
That being said, I absolutely LOVE Landry Jones. This guy is one hell of a consolation prize and I think that if we do miss out on the Luck sweepstakes, we do whatever we can to grab Jones, who will be in that ELITE category soon enough. I look at Luck like an Aaron Rodgers/Big Ben hybrid and Jones like a Philip Rivers. Either one gives us the best signal caller in 20 years and can help to turn this franchise around.
Either of the 2 NEED to be in Miami next year. These are the only 2 QB prospects I like and feel can make an immediate impact. Jones might not bring the excitement of an Andrew Luck to his new team, but should make a similar impact once he hits the field.
Is it draft day yet!?
Laces out!
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-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2011 8:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Erm,Mosul didnt write this,lol
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 13, 2011 9:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow! kmb my bad dude
Way to throw you under the bus lol. I’m on my phone at work and I thought this was mosuls article.
Great article though brother, u deserve the credit and I feel exactly the same. I will be crushed if Luck or Jones is not in Miami next year, what do you think?
Honestly I hope I’m wrong but I have this weird feeling that Luck will end up on the colts and take over for peyton
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-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
100% in agreement
PLEASE, This has got to happen!!
Here is the thing
Even if we keep this regime,this needs to be our guy. I will give you a short list of reasons why.
1. Our recievers would thrive in a spread offense akin to the one that New England runs.
2. This guy would make Dabolls job easier. Think of how Colt Mccoy fared in Cleveland.
3. With us not having to trade the farm,we would have a solid QB that has already been built around,yet we could also focus on a tight end and offensive line.
4. But, in the simulated mocks ive done,it has us either taking Vontaze Burifect, or Dontae Paige Moss. Both winners of the unique name award,bit sadly they dont play QB.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 13, 2011 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Did I see the words 'keep, this, regime' in the same sentence??
NOOOooooooo!!! That would certainly confirm 2012 as the end of all things.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
He's my guy
I’ve been wanting him since last season.
Official Driver of the 'Fire Everyone and Hire Someone' Wagon.
Speaking of Luck...
Did anyone catch that one-handed sideline catch he made against the Bruins? Good grief he even looks like a solid WR prospect.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
he can play qb
And also be our starting fs lol. Lord knows we can use good hands in our secondary
Laces out!
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-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great write kmb!!!!
My priorities is in that order, Grab Luck if we can, if not, Jones is a can’t miss franchise qb, as well. Hell if we end up with our signature win total(7-9), I’ll grab RGIII.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
Do you want to be THE BRIDE or The Bridesmaid????
Landry Jones is THE CONSOLATION PRIZE!!!
ANDREW LUCK IS THE PRIZE
Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant!! This is as close to a no-brainer as possible!!
PLEASE PLEASE TONY S, DON’T screw this up!!!
Think 0-16, Think poor conditioning, lousy schemes and terrible coverages. Keep up the poor play calling. You are playing for the SUPER BOWL WINNING QB for the next 15 yrs vs 7-9.
Everyone wants to be the bride (creepy)
But when it comes down to it… if you can’t be the bride, it’s better to the bridesmaid than the flower girl.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Tony Sparano's as good as gone, and will likely be driving along the New Jersey turnpike when we draft our next QB
Time to unleash the Greatest Show on Surf!
And fist pumping with Snooki...
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I think Sparanstache is actually smaller than Snooki at this point
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At least we'd be getting in the wedding instead of panhandling outside of it
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FYI, Robert Griffin III finally cracked Mel Kiper's Top 25 Big Board yesterday
I expect RG3 to get boatloads of attention now.
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Do I smell a new post?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I've been holding off on the RG3 content while waiting to see if he'll declare next spring
And the dude is awesome, so he certainly deserves a write-up.
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I don't know if we will know about many of these guys till after the season, sadly.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
For Griffin...
I think it’ll be best if he goes back to school and comes out next year as the top prospect. Unless by some chance Luck and/or Jones say they’re going back… then he could come out and probably be fine.
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Can't agree with that finhead
RGIII has stats that defy qb play presently. He also may not have the kind of players next season to have a repeat of this season and still there are at least 5 NFL teams needing qbs. Griffin must come out and not risk injury or a disappointing season.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There are always risks/rewards
He can come out now and save himself from a potential injury, but he isn’t due to lose a high athlete if he goes back. It’s not like he’s going to have someone like Blackmon or Floyd come out, giving him less weapons if he goes back. With the talent he has, he should be able to repeat this season barring injury. There are teams that do need QBs, but the 4th QB in the draft probably won’t go #5 or even #10. He could go back to school next year and be the #1 overall choice or he can come out this year where his selection could be as early as #14 or #15 or as late as #35.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
An 80.3 completion percentage will get you on draft boards in a hurry
And that number is even more impressive considering the fact he throws deep quite often.
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Yes
But I don’t think that number will hold up throughout the year. He may easily get high 60s or 70s, but he won’t overtake Luck and it’d be hard to surpass Jones. He could be the unquestioned #1 next year though.
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It doesn't really matter if he fails to maintain that completion percentage, though
A completion percentage in the 70s is phenomenal, and would be an improvement over the respectable 67 percent he had in 2010. Considering the fact Baylor isn’t a dink-and-dunk offense, those numbers are really impressive.
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RG3 really seems talented
Just watching him you can tell he’s a natural passer who hasn’t been refined to his full potential. Add his absurd athletic ability to the mix and you’re looking at a guy who could potentially be somewhere between an Aaron Rodgers and a Michael Vick
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I would take that in a heartbeat.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah, kmb
RGIII is a legit 1st rd qb and anyone who don’t agree needs to pull up his stats and/or watch him in action on the field. Right there behind Luck and Jones.
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by fin4three5yrs on Oct 13, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones...
I would be happy with landry jones – b/c we never get the best player for the team any way…(Luck) but Jones is also going to be a franchise QB – this gives me hope, b/c I just know we will win too many games (3) to get the top overall pick… Even though we are bad – this team has talent, and should not be 0-4… The colts are already trying to lose I think – and would take Luck right away…
the worst part is that the tie breaking rules for draft position (strength of schedule) is very bad for us …Our tough schedule means teams we finish “tied with” get to pick ahead of us…..so we must “out lose” them to get the #1 pick….
LANDRY JONES is the best we can realistically hope for unless we are 1-15.
41 Year FIN FAN
Franchise QB... NOW !!! ...Draft Ryan Mallett ...Draft some Freakin speed for a change. WR & RB speed kills......
Kmb
Would you mind adding a list at the end of these posts of when these players are going to play? For example, Landry Jones is playing at Kansas this Saturday at 9:15EST. I really like being able to watch these guys with the hope that they’ll be on our team next year
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He will add anything you would like......for a fee of course.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting to see Andrew Luck play is worth any fee
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Hear that Keith? Any fee! Time to cash is!
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I know that stats are not everything..
but i just compare that stats of Jones and Robert Griffin 3 and there is no comparison. Griffin is the better of the 2. Dont get me wrong, Jones is a nice QB, but Griffin is just a lot better QB than Jones, atleast on paper. Both goes again great teams, but Griffin numbers, just blow Jones away.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(Quarter of a Century and counting)
I compare this and last season numbers btw!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(Quarter of a Century and counting)
I think Griffin has the higher upside
But Jones is more NFL-ready. Griffin will need to sit a year or two, most likely.
"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
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I think both guys have crazy upside
I won’t lose sleep if either of them ends up in Miami.
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RG3 I'd be worried about
But only if we still have the same coaching staff. RG3 seems like he’d need an offense that really suits his talents and, well, we don’t like to play to our strengths.
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We wont have the same staff.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, but I thought the same thing for this season
"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
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Well, Stephen Ross was on the sidelines drooling over Andrew Luck during the Orange Bowl last January
And was probably thinking, “What coach gives me the best chance to draft Andrew Luck? Sparano.”
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So the courting of Harbaugh... even at the OB
Was all just a ruse, even if it made him look bad, so he could secretly scout Luck. What a genius fool!
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by Finhead83 on Oct 13, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha so true
Sparano could turn out to be our best coach ever
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Loose sleep? How can you sleep when your dancing in the streets nude with the whole cheeseburger thing and all?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no way in hell our coaching staff is here for more than 10 minutes after the final game of the season
Sparano’s firing may rival Mike Tice’s Minnesota exit for quickest of all time. lol
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Ross will walk into the locker room at halftime during Week 17...
He’ll tell Tony he needs to speak with him after the game… and to bring his playbook.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Then he will feel kinda like Edds as he heads back to Texas to be back with jones!
Strange he didn’t try to give Dallas any help like tradeing Dansby for a second rd. pick!
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Oct 13, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrew Luck...that is all I have to say on the matter
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
It was a huge risk I'm sure.
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hey...
I would be happy with Jones or Barkley as well. But since we are this bad and the #1 pick is realistic, can you blame me for wanting the best QB prospect in a decade…
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"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
lol. No, I can't blame you for that
I like Jones a lot, though. I fear that Dolphins fans will dismiss him because his last name isn’t “Luck,” but there will be A LOT to be excited about if we turn in our draft card and it has Landry Jones’ name on it. In fact, we can go and get Dwayne Allen and a LG in the second round if we manage to stock pile some picks.
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I agree about Jones...
however, if we have a chance at Luck, I think we simply take him rather than stockpile picks and take Jones. Then, of course, you use the 33rd pick on someone to help the rookie (TE or O-Line)…
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
We'd only stockpile picks if Luck spurned us
There’s no way in hell I’d pass on him.
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I honestly done think Luck would do that...
Eli felt he was entitled (because of his family) and Elway had options (the Yankees). Luck has neither. Plus, to me, he just seems like a stand-up guy who would welcome the challange of trying to live up to Marino…
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"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
I think Elway's reason for spurning the Colts is that he didn't want to play for Frank Kush
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I'm tired of stockpiling picks in any event
Even if we get stuck with Jones, we still oughta trade the little ones for a few bigger ones.
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Stockpiling 1s and 2s isn't good enough for you?
We’re not talking about seventh-round picks here. And it’s hypothetical anyway. If we’re picking first, we take Luck and then shoot for a left guard and right tackle.
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Stockpiling 1s and 2s was what I want. Or 'is' what I want, I suppose.
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If we still have Ireland I will take my chance even in some of the later rounds. He has shown that he can
get it done past the second, third round as well.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not nearly as vicious on Ireland as alot of people
but there is something to be said for fresh blood and a new way of thinking.
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Well if the coach you want will not work with him then he needs to be gone.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 13, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What if Luck pulls a Manning or Rivers.
Would that not be the most embarrassing thing ever….to be a club the first round draft choice goes I do not want to play there.
Yes...
That would be just as tragic as Nancy Kerrigan getting clubbed in the knee. If Luck doesn’t want history to repeat iself, he’ll choose not to repeat history…
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
yes...
my friend keeps jokeing that as soon as Luck finds out he will be a Dolphin, he will decide he want to be an architect instead, it really pisses me off…
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I'd be remiss if I didn't admit that the Elway/Manning outcome has crossed my mind several times over the last two weeks
However, if we had the No.1 pick and Luck made it clear he wouldn’t play for us, I’d trade Luck’s rights for a king’s ransom worth of high picks and then go after Landry Jones. In fact, this scenario would possibly be a gigantic blessing in disguise: imagine having multiple 1s and 2s in the draft for the next two or three years (which is what Luck’s spot could command in value) while building around a franchise quarterback? That would be paydirt in Miami.
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At that rate, you can pretty much go grocery shopping in a manner that would make the Pats jealous
We could conceivably draft Jones and then pick up much of the following:
-A big, athletic left guard (David DeCastro, Kalechi Osemele, Cordy Glenn)
-A playmaker tight end (Dwayne Allen)
-A beast right tackle (Levy Adcock, Ricky Wagner)
-A franchise-caliber safety (Markelle Martin, Ray-Ray Armstrong, Robert Lester, Mark Barron, T.J. McDonald, Tony Dye)
-A go-to wideout (Mohamed Sanu, Jeff Fuller)
The possibilities are endless …
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Could we trade those picks for a good coach?
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That would be much, much worse than Harbaugh shooting us the bird
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If we play
Like we did in San Diego all year long … Luck is a lock. If we play a few games … offensively … like we did in New England … and … our defense shows up for a few games … we’ll possibly lose out on Luck. I’ve operated under the premise … even a blind dolphin finds a herring every once in a while. So … I think even WE can win a few games this year. If our punishment for winning a few games is drafting Landry Jones … I’m fine with that. If we continue playing the way we have since Cleveland … we will draft Luck. We can replace Colombo via the draft or free agency and be instantly better.
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Really enjoyed your writeup, kmb. You have me half convinced that if the Dolphins (or Broncos) end up with the top pick, they should (maybe) trade down a bit and get some serious picks and still get Jones. We’ll know more in April.
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Well...
If Denver gets the 1st pick, I love that strategy. If Miami has the 1st pick and they do that, I’ll be pissed.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Thanks, Bradley
Do you think there’s a chance Elway trades Tebow and goes after Luck? I can’t imagine No.7 just standing by the wayside while the ultimate blue-chip QB prospect (out of Stanford, no less) enters the NFL.
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Your guess is as good as mine
Some of my thoughts on the Broncos QB situation: Orton is a damn fine QB, but the incessant pounding of drums for Tebow had an effect on him. He’s a tough guy but anyone can get worn down. How else do you explain his poor play this year?
As to trading Tebow: I thought there was a possibility earlier in the season, but with the recent developments, it won’t happen this season. Wait and see how Tim does the next 11 games. My guess is he’ll do good enough.
But the Broncos will say goodby to Orton and Brady Quinn, both of whom are free agents at the end of the year. We have rookie Adam Weber (Minnesota) on the PS and he’s looked good in TC.
My personal opinion is that Elway would like to trade Tebow, but it’s a tough nut. He’s so popular, that he could only be traded if he stinks it up, and I don’t think that will happen. And if it did, who would want him?
I am pretty sure Elway (a Stanford guy himself) would love to get Luck.
But like I said above, let’s see what April brings.
Meanwhile, I hope the Jets win on Monday and the Dolphins win a few days later . ;)
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I meant
I hope the Dolphins win both games. Talking the suck for Luck thing.
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Yeah, the Stanford connection is the reason I asked that question
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At this point in the season
I’m almost positive the Broncos will draft at QB in the first two rounds. Tannehill, maybe.
But who knows – Tebow might turn out to be a better version of Joe Kapp.
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Joe Kapp
http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/10/11/2484310/could-tim-tebow-be-the-new-joe-kapp#79990496
Maybe more information than you’re interested in, but Kapp was a tough QB back in the day for the Vikings. Couldn’t throw a decent ball, but he was a baller. Hope is that Tebow can be as good.
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Quick question
If we do end up drafting Luck in the draft,do we go for Fleener in Rd 2?
It would be a bit of a reach,but the chemistry and having someone he is already familiar with may work wonders on his transition to the NFL.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Oct 13, 2011 9:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd like to pummel the one who used "thousand yard stare"
for football!
Shitfire!
I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.
Keith, beating up such an old man is barely even sporting but hey if he has it coming............
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by texascowpunk on Oct 14, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
"Thousand yard stare" is the last thing you want to see in your QB
It’s basically post traumatic stress disorder.
Its a deep QB class boys
we will get a winner(hopefully)
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Need a reason to explain.
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Don't change your mind.
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