Brian Daboll makes good first impression as Miami Dolphins officially introduce new offensive coordinator
If you could ask him, I bet Brian Daboll would tell you that he's never received this kind of attention before in his career. The new offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins has stolen the headlines this week since reports surfaced earlier this week that the Dolphins were on the verge of naming him to their coaching staff.
On Wednesday, the official announcement was made with a surprising press conference - one that featured general manager Jeff Ireland, head coach Tony Sparano and, of course, Daboll himself. This was a particularly refreshing event considering this regime has been against introductory press conferences since they came to town in early 2008. Just last year, for example, the Dolphins chose not to have a press conference to announce the hiring of Mike Nolan as the new defensive coordinator - which was kind of a big deal. They also refused to have any kind of media gathering on team grounds for big offseason additions Brandon Marshall and Karlos Dansby. Marshall, you'll remember, held his own introductory press conference himself.
"You know us pretty well, this is something we don’t normally do," Ireland began the press conference. "It is a little bit different then what we normally do. But we are excited about the direction of the franchise, we really are. We wanted to convey that to you. We are moving on and we are looking forward to changing the direction of the franchise."
The fact that the Dolphins were willing to hold an introductory press conference for Brian Daboll shows a big change from how this team has been run the past few years. Hopefully Daboll himself also proves to be a big change from the "same old" we got used to under former offensive coordinator Dan Henning.
Let's get to some of my impressions from the event itself.
Energy and excitement clearly a priority
I feel that the biggest thing to take away from Wednesday's press conference is how different of a personality Brian Daboll will be from what we've been used to. The three men who spoke yesterday - Ireland, Sparano, and Daboll - combined to use the word "excited" over twenty times. And when Daboll really got going during his few minutes with the media, you could clearly see the excitement and energy the man is going to bring.
He began pacing behind the podium about halfway through his press conference. It wasn't an uncomfortable, nervous pacing, either. It was clear that Daboll just wasn't able to contain how excited he was. I believe that his players are going to respond well to that kind of energy. It's a far cry from Henning's dry, seemingly emotionless personality we suffered through for three years.
"Some of the things I was looking for out of this whole thing was obviously someone who had a really clear vision and maybe shared some of the same thoughts that I might have of where we want to go offensively," said Sparano during Daboll's introduction. "Someone who came in with an exciting plan, with an exciting demeanor that would bring energy from that stand point to our players and our football team."
I think that Sparano clearly noticed what many of us did last year - especially later in the season. The offense just looked lifeless. There was no energy. There was no fire. Could that have been a reflection of the person running the offense? Quite possibly.
I also think that Sparano and Henning might not have been on the same page as often as we all thought. The fact that Sparano, in an obviously prepared introduction, would mention bringing in somebody who "shared some of the same thoughts that I might have of where we want to go offensively" tells me that there may have been some difference in opinion between what Sparano wanted to do and what Henning was comfortable doing.
Regardless, there's no question that Daboll is going to bring a different passion and energy to this offense. Whether or not this translates to some success remains to be seen.
Will Daboll bring a different offensive philosophy?
"I think we are going to do whatever we need to do to give us a chance. Like I said, whether that is spread it out - I think there is definitely some tools to be able to do that - or tighten it down to determine the type of players you are playing against," Daboll responded when asked about his play-calling. "What we are going to try to do is attack the weaknesses of the defense and we are going to try and maximize our strengths. Whether that is spread it open, ‘let’s go’, let’s get in a no huddle and move [or] whether that is tighten down, we are going to do that."
Daboll also said the team will use various personnel groupings and that they are "going to try to use formations, some different motions, and different shifts to try to create mismatches." Of course, this is what every offensive coordinator would tell you. The question is how effectively will Daboll's offense be able to create and take advantage of these mismatches.
An obvious difference, though, will be the freedom Daboll said he plans on giving his quarterback. Henning gave little power to the quarterback to make changes at the line. Daboll, on the surface, seems more willing to give the quarterback some slack.
"This is a quarterback friendly system where he is going to be able to make a lot of different adjustments at the line of scrimmage and I am going to take an active role to be with him in the meetings and getting him to develop the way I think he can develop."
Of course, who will that quarterback be?
Daboll's comments on the quarterback
Daboll was asked if it's safe to assume Chad Henne will be the team's starting quarterback. Daboll, though, didn't exactly give Henne a ringing endorsement.
"Well, yea, Chad is on our roster," Daboll responded. "Again, I know here we are going research every available player whether it is draft or free agency, but I am excited to work with Chad. I think he has some tools I think we can develop and whoever else is out there. That is what we will do."
But based on how Daboll describes the kind of quarterback he likes, Henne has his work cut out for him.
"Accuracy, I would say, pocket presence and I would say his ability to lead the troops under pressure," is how he responded to a question about what he looks for in a quarterback. "He is going to have to be good on third down in terms of handling pressure looks that he is going to get and beating man-to-man coverage. He is going to have to be accurate with the football."
Despite Henne's 61% completion percentage, he isn't exactly known for being an accurate quarterback. That figure is inflated by the absurd amount of checkdown throws he makes. On passes thrown beyond 10 yards through the air, Henne completed just 48% of his passes, threw 8 interceptions, and had a passer rating of 63.9.
Did Henne at least effectively "lead the troops under pressure?" Not exactly. This past year, Henne had a passer rating of 58.4 in the fourth quarter of games that were within a touchdown.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this. But my gut feeling is that Chad Henne is not going to be the starting quarterback in Daboll's system come September.
Needless to say, there was a lot to digest from this brief introductory press conference. Hopefully I broke it down into reasonable chunks. And now it's time for all of you to share your thoughts...
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Clean slate
Good to hear that, let Daboll build his offense with his players.
Hopefully he gets a good supporting staff, and helps fix the OL as well.
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Love his energy
and the fact that he’s saying the right things — exploit the other team’s weakness. This is what all great offenses do, and this team just did the same thing game after game this past season.
The only way Henne is our QB next year is if we strike out in free agency and the draft and trade demands are too high for the veteran QB’s who might be available.
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by rintintinsoldier on Jan 20, 2011 6:41 AM EST reply actions
Thigpen should get a chance to start
None of the current QB draft prospects that will be available to us are are clearly an upgrade or likely to make an immediate impact. The offensive line should be the main focus of the draft.
Daboll says accuracy is vital. Here is an example of TT’s accuracy and some opinions of a few other coaches:
Yeah I know, the Bears game wasn’t exactly the Dolphins finest hour, but that fiasco can’t be blamed on Thigpen. Three whole practice days for prep. The only first team reps he’s had since being on the roster. He started out moving the ball very well including running for a first down that was called back on a penalty. Then the O-line was abducted by aliens. If Henne had started that game, he might be getting out of the hospital about now.
If you haven’t already, check out the Tyler Thigpen videos on YouTube for better look at what he can do. I don’t know if he can be the man, but he brings excitement, ability to improvise, and an athleticism to the QB position that we have been sorely lacking.
Matty Great Post, But....
Most of us read that article and I have been clamoring for TT to get a fair shot!! Clearly by the end of last year, the team was not going to the playoffs and Henne was a basket case. I desperately wanted to see TT play a game or 2 to see if he has any of the Moxie necessary to be a starting QB. I agree the Chicago game was a nightmare and Henne would probably just gotten discharged from Jackson Memorial Trauma Unit if he had played. TT never got a fair chance!
Clearly, there would have been no disadvantage to having him play the last few games. When I did see him play last year, I saw a QB who clearly was more dynamic than CH. but was clearly inconsistant. He made some great throws and he made some bad throws. But he was able to move in the pocket.
Now all we have is the ability to make posts writing maybes and possiblies because we know very little about how he can play. IMHO, this was another one of Sparanos screw ups!!
With respect to Da-Bull, he started off in a positive direction. I will give him a fair chance. But it is a little scary to consider the Phins hired the OC on one of the 2 teams with a worse offense than the Dolphins. Also, when people talk about him, the best attribute they say it that he is young. But so is my 7 yr old daughter and she clearly is not NFL OC material!!
The only person available via draft or FA that I would prefer over Thigpen is Orton.
I would be quite happy if Thigpen were named the starter.
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I like Thigpen wayyyy more than Henne. His moxie, swagg, drive to win is easy to see and exciting.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Same
Thiggy has emotion and drive. Henne just has that stupid look on his face.
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
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I wonder if Henne keeps that look after his orgasm...?
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I have been saying TT has talent ever since we recieved him for a 5th round pick. I really don’t kno if he is “The Guy” BUT i do kno he bring excitement and is better then Henne. I love how Henne lovers think he is still good after 25plus starts, but r the first to say TT sucks after 1 start.. Funny how that works.
i been sayin the zact same thang
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
TT is a free agent and wants to go somewhere as the starter. I like him much more than Henne also.
by phishbowl2003 on Jan 20, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
but he has quite a few places that would realistically give him a shot to compete for the job
after the past two season in Miami, I’m not sure what Sparano could say that would convince him he would have a fair shot.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
No one will give Thigpen a chance to start
He’ll be lucky to get a second string job.
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i dunno...
depending on what cleveland, arizona, carolina, denver, washington, san francisco, oakland, and possibly seattle do in the offseason/draft, he could find himself with a shot at some of those places.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
TT
What is going to happen is he will most likely not be resigned.. I would be pretty upset because i personally think he is better then Henne but the regime doesnt want to bench the QB they drafted. Now what if TT walks away and does something big for another team.. “What IF?”
Unless he goes to a QB needy team
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Tyler Thigpen is 1-11 as a starter??
Henne is 13-14. 3-1 vs the JETS. I have stopped making excuses for Henne. he needs to step it up in his 3rd full year as a starter. but i would rather him the Thigpen. yea Thigpen is more mobile and fearless but if Daboll is as good as people say he is at developing QB’s then show what you can with Henne not Thigpen. If Henne sucks then hopefully we can make a play for Luck
People SAY Daboll is good with qb’s. What’s the name of a qb he’s groomed and is successful in the NFL?
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One of the best sayings "Play to win" I can't find fault if you do.
by 54 on Jan 20, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
1-11
Well Thiggy had more Touchdowns then Flacco and Matt Ryan that year. The Chiefs were alot worst then the Falcons and Ravens. Then in Miami when he played versus Tenn and NE he did good. The Bears game in unfair judgement.
in through one ear and out the next.
Or eyes???
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One of the best sayings "Play to win" I can't find fault if you do.
by 54 on Jan 21, 2011 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
Thigpen's ERA
You need to quit paying so much attention to the BS from the deejays on the sport shows. They seem to equate NFL QB’s won-loss records to the ERA of a MLB pitcher with an unhittable fastball. That’s the same attitude that says Marino wasn’t very good because he didn’t win a SB. Football is a total team game but players should be evaluated by their individual performance.
Let’s see now, the Dolphins beat the Vikings, Packers, Steelers(if not for the bogus call), and the Jets. Therefore, Henne is better than Farve, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and Sanchez. Sure, I can that.
by Michael Westen on Jan 21, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
As an O's fan, I'm not quite sure where you're goin' with this?
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he's sayin that you can't just judge a QB by the win-loss record
because he can play well and the team can still lose, or vice-versa
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 23, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
well said
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 23, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it sounded like he was talking about developing Henne actually ...
It sounded like he was prepared to make Henne successful. It wasn’t until they asked him that he said whoever we can get. It looks like he is going to use whoever we can bring in, but at this point he is going to try to fix the pieces he has.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 20, 2011 6:55 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
no I don't agree
He sounded completely uninspired by Henne.The way it seems to me is he added the rest about working with Henne to soften his initial response. But his first response was his most telling. No I would say based on the way his demeanor changed and his first response, he is not a Henne supporter.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 20, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
He really cannot make a definate statement about anyone
because his mind has been in Cleveland. Until he gets a 55 gallon drum of popcorn and some benzadrine, and starts evaluating film, he’s clueless. It still remains to be seen if he remains that way. after evaluating!
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I think we might bring in some guys to develop and maybe a vet, but we will make it a point to develop Henne. I think he will definately look at top nfl prospects, but if none impress him he won’t take one. I think we will get one QB in the draft, but the word ‘develop might mean he won’t start the first year.
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Based on what Penny says...
…I’d much rather have this guy as a QB coach than OC. The press conference was an upbeat way to put positive spin on, what has been up to now, some very questionable decisions by Ross & Co.
From what folks are saying in the Browns blogs, we didnt exactly land a big fish with Daboll. Let the record speak. But it is what it is so…Go Dolphins.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
It's time to suppot him.
We should support him until he gives us reason not to. It’s a clean slate.
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His clean slate was when the Browns chose him as OC.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
I thought that was his first chance at OC?
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I'm the opposite
He needs to give me a reason to be hopeful about him. Because he didn’t do it in Cleveland.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 20, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
geez nicky! pay attention!!
he TOLD you…. he is VERY EXCITED!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
it was good to hear...
that he wants to move his recievers around to get good match ups. this is one thin henning never did. maybe now we can move marshall around and use his 6’4" frame the right way! as far as Henne goes….i dont think he’s going to make it, and here’s why… mechanics, accuracy and play calling can all be taught. but “the ability to lead his troops” is something Henne lost along the way last year. i dont think it’s something he will be able to regain with the dolphins.
time to move on mr. Henne. hang on to that clip board a little longer and keep our new QB’s balls warm. thanks
im not as think as you drunk i am occifer.....
well.............i certainly like his enthusiasm....
he’s young and should be able to relate to the players well……and he’s a sideline coach…..i like that…..
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Incompetent…but at least he’s enthusiastically incompetent. Also, he relates well to the players until they are throwing their helmets on frustration at his bungling, and they start yelling at each other.
by johnnyphoenix on Jan 20, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
One thing about Ross
He might look the buffoon apologizing at a press conference and know little about the NFL process but behind closed doors sitting around the boardroom table, I’ll wager he’s fairly ruthless. I bet he had little time for Parcells secretism and low key machinations. As well, with any coaches (including Sparano) who aren’t on the same page regarding lighting things up on O.
I think this bodes well for the draft but, alas, there are only a few of us that think O line picks are exciting…
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by Tunaflipper on Jan 20, 2011 9:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm Confused
" there may have been some difference in opinion between what Sparano wanted to do and what Henning was comfortable doing."
I thought Sparano was the HEAD COACH and Henning was the OC. Do you mean I had it backwards? Does this mean that if Daboll wants to run the offense just like Henning did ( it sure looks like it ) that Sparano will HAVE TO LET HIM .
How does it look like he wants to run the offense like Henning?
From what did you infer that?
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He might mean
That Sparano will have little say on the O even though he is the HC. But Sparanos say came when he hired the guy. Sparano is not supposed to interfere with the OC unless he doesn’t like what is going on, then you generally fire the guy. You bought the guy and the system.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 20, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
you shouldn't get involved untill there is a huge problem.
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He's Saying All the Right Things....
But realistically, until we see the changes the draft and offseason acquisitions will bring, I’m not sure pure energy will do it. It’s nice to see, rather than those ‘seniors moments’ we had with Henning. I’m cautiously optimistic about next season already, but the true test will be the first few games…have we improved, or are we doomed to repeat history? I think Henne will be on the roster, but I don’t think he’s a lock for starter…I don’t see anyone on the active roster as starter…even Thigpen. But I’m not in the football business, so we’ll see what kind of opportunities we can make in the off-season.
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Interesting read – considering he basically all but said Henne won’t be the starter in 2011. Something tells me we’re going to make a push for Orton for the short term, and draft a QB this year. I’m not saying it’s the right move by any means (RE: Orton).
Neo said it best above…“We’ll see.”
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don't think he basically said Henne won't be the starter
it’s more thats what you want and everybody else
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by bryankstro on Jan 20, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only thing he made clear was that he was avoiding a direct answer.
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by joel311 on Jan 20, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How on earth, can he make a decision at this early stage?
Surely he has to have a chance to review masses of tape and see Henne and Thigy in the flesh before being able to make a decision?
FWIW I can see Henne winning out a starting competition with Thigpin
Not necessarily what I want
but he didn’t seem to be too keen on Henne.
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by DolphinNation on Jan 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
No he didn't
But he is clearly not inspired by Henne and by the time Henne will have an oppurtunity to try and impress we will likely have our other QB options. IF we get a veteran like Orton or McNabb there is little to no chance Henne will be starter.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 20, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Not trying to be a buzzkill, but it was all PR
Ireland talking about “we don’t usually do this but we’re SOOOO excited”, they are just trying to use th opportunity for damage control after the way the coaching search was handled, and trying to spin a guy that nobody is excited about.
And Daboll said absolutely nothing. You can’t take anything he said as meaning anything about what the offense is going to look like in 9 months.
As Neo said, “We’ll see”
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Seriously! Anyone remember Cam after drafting Ginn
“We are SO excited to have been able to select this fine young man. He will be a key special teams component for our team.”
W/E
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
... he was a key "fetal position" after the catch...
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Daboll and chosing a QB.
Personally it is way too early to say who he is going to pick… the man just got in and hasn’t worked with Henne. Daboll stayed neutral because he’s not sure what he has at the moment. He doesn’t know his offense just yet… we need to see what in time. I think QB is going to be an open competition for the starting job. Let the best man start!!!
You can’t say Henne isn’t going to start with what was said and you failed to mention at least one positive… Henne was very good at 3rd down conversions as that was one thing Daboll said he wanted to see in a QB. Yet again, none of are current QB’s fit the bill when you look at what Daboll wants in his QB. Lets not jump the guns here and formulate rational opinions about a PR job here.
right
no matter who the QB is they still have to earn it and thats with any team the one who plays the best will start
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping they're all working on their passing before the official off-season stuff starts....
Hopefully, we’ll see some improvements when camp opens…not sure if they just hang out until the mandatory stuff, of if Henne’s drilling balls through tire swings :)
if henne is smart...
he should get together with some of his fellow WR’s and do drills. Do what Montana did with Rice. Every off season they would do drills together and throw that pig skin around. This would also include him getting on good terms with Marshall. Henne needs to also be proactive with the new OC. If he does this then I would imagine Henne would put himself in a very good position when camp opens up.
by Dolphins101 on Jan 20, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say his response was neutral
You can be neutral and remain upbeat. He changed completely when asked about Henne. I think most people accurately picked it up, his first response pretty much said alot without directly putting it in words.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 20, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be excited to leave Cleveland for South Beach too
Saban was excited at one point too.
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I am getting more and more excited about this guy
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you forgot the sarcasm box
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm getting excited too
but I think thats because my girlfriend is coming over….[she’s a nun].
I know its wrong, but once I got into the habit I can’t stop!
Soo excited!
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lol
Boooooo…….. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Oh "Hail" Mary...!
lol
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Some "no talent" Browns
Yup, not much you can do with Josh Cribbs, Brian Robiskie, Peyton Hillis, Mohammed Massaquoi, Chansey Stucki, Joe Thomas, and Ben Watson. Yep, absolutely no talent whatsoever to work with there…no wonder he finished 31st in the league! Those are all horrible players that wouldn’t make a single NFL roster on another team. Thus you guys are idiots for looking at this man’s track record! eye roll
deja vu all over again
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
For all his excitement...
For all his excitement and canned answers about “creating mismatches” and “using motions and shifts” and “spreading it out”…fact is, he had NO SUCCESS in 2 years at Cleveland with what I consider to be offensive talent that isn’t that much worse than what we had in Miami. Or even much worse than what you would find on the offensive roster of teams in the bottom-third of the league. Yet the man still finished 29th and 31st in the league in offense. Excuse me for being skeptical.
you're excused
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I find all of this negativity a bit humorous...
…considering how EVERYONE could NOT WAIT to replace Dan Henning.
-Maybe the sky is always falling in some people’s worlds?
-I’m thankful for an owner that at least cares about winning.
-I know damn well Tony Sporano cares about winning. He got so freakin’ excited about field goals because he is competitive and wants to win! Unfortunately, that’s all we could score.
-Dan Henning was more concerned about dying than winning.
-Brian Daboll clearly has passion; which this offense clearly needs!
-The 2 people without passion from this team are, imo, Henning & Henne. 1 of them is gone. I have a feeling the other one will be our backup this season.
I understand your skepticism, but you are forgetting one important detail...
Daboll had Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, a washed up Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace, and rookie Colt McCoy as his QBs, so… yeah.
Maybe if Cleveland had a QB, then they wouldn’t have been so inept offensively.
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by The Earl on Jan 20, 2011 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is that the same Derek Anderson
that went to the Pro Bowl when Chudzinski was OC?
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Yes... the same Derek Anderson
That got benched for 3rd string bust Brady Quinn and got benched for undrafted rookie Max Hall in Arizona. The same horribly inaccurate Derek Anderson that has played his way into a backup role, if not out of the league at this point. He is a one hit wonder.
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by The Earl on Jan 20, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How can that be...
Pro Bowl……shit hole? Perhaps coaching? Just asking, as it is weird!
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I was just a fluke, he was never really any good
He only made the Pro Bowl because Brady backed out with an injury (hurt pride… LOL). During that season, he went 298/527(career high 56.6% completion percentage), 3787 yards with 29 TDs and 19 INTs.
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I have now been diagnosed with CLS....
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take one 1st round QB
and call me when camp starts
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
A Name I Haven't Heard For QB
I am not 100% sure on this, especially since with the labor dispute we could be looking at a very different FA system, but what about Dennis Dixon. He is currently the back up for the Steelers. I am here in Oregon, although I am not a Duck fan, and watched him play. Pretty dynamic player. He has been stuck behind Big Ben, mostly because of a knee injury he suffered. He is 100% and I think has some amazing potential. I believe he is a FA, although I may be wrong. If he is I would grab him. I think he will go to a team and become a real good qb.
completely under the radar
as far as me ever hearing of him. Thanks for the heads up!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
.... homework..?
lol
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Since no one has ever heard of him
he just may be on our A-list!
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LMAO!!!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
He did play pretty well at times and I would also take a look at Josh Johnson
and many others of course .
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 20, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
He did play pretty well at times and I would also take a look at Josh Johnson
and many others of course .
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 20, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
i like josh johnson
he seems like he has some potential
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Tons of it
holds it high,very fast out from under center,quick release,can flick it 30 yds,keeps his head downfield even with the pocket collapsing and can flat out fly when takes off – a lot to work with as long as you dont ask him to take something off of it from 10 in but that takes reps.
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 20, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Dixon has played well in limited snaps, this year and last
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Is it just me..
or does Daboll look eerily similar to Uncle Finster….just saying.
I know Unc was pretty ticked about the offense, but I didnt realize that he was actually going to get this far with his intentions to fix it. I am pulling for you Unc!
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now that you mention it....
GO FINSTER!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
LOL... WIN!
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by The Earl on Jan 20, 2011 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Achtung!
Dragon attack…!
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I watched the press and I liked the energy he brought to the table. The most important thing in it is what he didin’t say like " I think play action calls on third and long are vital to my offense". He is a young coach who sounds like he knows what he is doing and just needs another shot with better talent around him (fingers crossed on getting a better QB)
hey even Belichick failed in Cleveland.
What it sounds like to me.....
is that if we do go to an offense that is more of a spread type, Thigpen will be the starter, Henne is not mobile enough to be in a spread offense, Thiggy has been a QB in a spread offense in HS, College, and evn in the NFL with KC, he will be our starter unless Cam Newton is still on the board at 15, I wouldn’t really like the pick but he is more dymanic of a player than Thiggy is and a bigger arm, I see Henne getting traded for a 3rd round pick at some point durring the draft, we may get lucky enough and get a second rounder if a team in 1st didn’t get the QB they were wanting
We're not trading Henne
He’s the only QB we have under contract for 2011 and its a cheap deal. They would not get a 3rd round pick for him unless he was part of a package deal for something else. Given the situation, trading Henne wouldn’t be a prudent move.
As for Thigpen, he probably won’t be resigned. But from his perspective, why would he even want to be here?
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by The Earl on Jan 20, 2011 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Henne isn't a spread option B, but
he is somewhat mobile. He did have quite a few 1st down runs, from what I remember.
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yes, he is somewhat mobile
compared to the empire state building
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Henne's mobility isn't a weakness in a pro offense.
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yes it is
because he has no pocket mobility
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 20, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
That is one of my biggest knocks on Chad
although there are obviously a few. I see his problem to be Pocket vision and awareness though more so than the physical aspect. One major concern to me that has lingered with Chad is that when he moves in the pocket he tends to drop his eyes to aid with his vision. This to me has been a very detrimental piece of Hennes game.
Just another Marino type!
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What Marino are you talking about?
Dan Marino was one of the best QBs in the history of the game at shifting around in the pocket to buy some time.
And how does this occur
without a pocket?
[Playing the devils advocate]
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pretty sure Sparano just mentioned that he has notice that ALL of the playoff teams have QBs that are mobile
and that he thinks that is something they need in miami…
pretty sure….
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 20, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Henne is mobile enough, he ran for a few first downs this year (on a f'ed up knee)
and had a rushing TD last year, he isn’t a immobile as you think he is.
While thiggy is athlete enough to escape the pocket, he doesn’t do so well or at the right times, he typically causes a guy to lose his man because he runs backwards as he escapes.
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oh, because Henne does do well at the right times?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 23, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
considering that
he did pretty much the same thing as Henning did with a team that is shallow in talent, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is an improvement….how much of an improvement remains to be seen.
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I liked the press conference, it was a little tense at first, but it was for the most part well intentioned. It was one of the more genuine acts to come from the dolphins organization to the fans and media in quite a long time.
On the topic of the correlation between the personality of the coordinator and the style of the offensive play-calling / timing of plays, Daboll certainly seems to have a different personality from Henning and that theory would assume the offense will have somewhat of a shifted style from the past three years. On Henne, if the personality of the play calling and style of the OC correlates to the offense as a whole, dosn’t the offensive character and attitude correlate with that of the QB?
Not saying Henne is deff not the right guy for the supposed “exciting direction” this offense is taking with Daboll as OC. It seems as though that the QB that is wanted to start for this team come September has to be a tough, accurate, and especially a QB with a great presence (which all great qbs do). Henne will be on the roster, hopefully he will have lots of competitive company on the depth chart.
Henne will be the bench QB come Sept.
But my gut feeling is that Chad Henne is not going to be the starting quarterback in Daboll’s system come September.
Yup, thats what I thought too…I don’t think Henne has the job in hand, I think we’ll find another QB this offseason as we go. Henne is NOT a for sure thing, just a person on the roster at this point in time. I was first impressed with his arm at first……but he now has wayy too many other issues at the postion.
I agree with this too.
If there is a clear upgrade FA vet, I think we sign him and have a competition, if the rookie we get outplays Henne, we will play the rookie. I don’t think Henne has no shot, but must prove himself again. How much he has to will be determined on game film and workouts this offseason. Hopefully Henne shows vast improvements in the new system, as that would mean we might not need to pursue a QB as aggressively, but we still need a backup.
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it is tough to say though were this organizations
relationship with Chad would be if we were to move in another direction.
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