THE POSSIBILITY OF PICKING AT QB WITH #1
One site in particular - FootballsFuture.com With that said, I've been looking at a lot of draft sites. Not forums but actual football sites. Several of them have a great deal of defensive players being picked in the first round. Which leads me to this. Yes, there are several teams in need of a QB; Arizona especially. Tennessee, Washington, Minnesota. But with all the defensive players out there, there just may be one or two (or three) QBs available when we pick at 15. If this is true (OR POSSIBLE), 1) what do you PERSONALLY think and 2) what do you think the Dolphins would do. These answers may be different - I'm sure they are.
For me, I would like for them to pick a QB. Look at what the Jets did. They wanted Sanchez and they went out and got him. Look at all the teams "better" than us - Colts have Manning, Steelers have Ben, NY has Sanchez, GB - Rodgers, Atlanta - Ryan. Alot of them were in position to pick a QB - I know. But what I'm saying is they have him and they are all set for 12 years.
I'm not sure, though who would qualify for us to get. I would hate (as you) to waste a pick but every team has wasted a pick. It's a crap shoot every April. I read that Gabbert, LIKE NEWTON, is going to have to get used to taking snaps under center. Mallett - a lot of you believe he may be close to Henne in the way he plays. If we do trade down and pick up a draft pick in place of our 2nd, I would like for them to use it on the O-line.
But I'm just saying - there may be QBs available when we pick. There is an awful lot of defensive players out there. Should there be a couple of QBs, who would you choose?
While I would like a QB, I would also be very happy with someone like Pouncey on our line. He won't be there in the third round. I also like Wisniewski, C from Penn State. I'm for drafting offense this year.
I believe we need, besides QB, RBs, WR and linemen.
As far as Tight End, I've read that a few of you want Miami to draft another one. Here's the thing that I don't understand. Why draft ANOTHER rookie? After Fasano, we have three rookie TEs and they all come from good institutions, Epps (Miami U), Shuler (Penn St.) and Mastrud (Kansas State). So you want four rookies? If we have to get a TE, I'd rather acquire Chicago's Greg Olsen or SF's Vernon Davis somehow. Don't know if either is a free agent but either would make a fine addition to our team. I wanted Miami to draft Olsen in 2007 but we drafted "The Family" instead. Could have had Olsen. Could have had Patrick Willis. Could have had Jets' Revis. What we could have had . . . . Don't see us drafting another one though. Could be wrong.
I have us having picks (one each) in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and two selections in the 7th - ours and Jacksonville's pick (Justin Smiley trade).
2011 draft information - you may or may not know some or all - NE has four selections in the first 2 rounds. Denver has 3 selections in the first 2 rounds. In the third round, NE, New Orleans and San Diego have two selections each.
I saw a Detroit fan - his own mock - Round 1 - Mike Pouncey; Round 2 - Greg Jones, OLB; Round 3 - John Moffitt, G; Round 4 - Casey Matthews, LB. Reason I'm writing this is because I saw someone on this site mention Matthews and if you think he's going to be there when we pick in the 5th Round, you're mistaken. Now, I'm not going solely on this guy's choices - I'm just saying. He's a fine choice and he will be gone - someone may even risk it with a 2nd or 3rd if they have more than one pick in a round (NEW ENGLAND?). I wouldn't be surprised. Matthews is their kind of player. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Sanchez????
Sanchez is not the reason the Jets have been to 2 consecutive AFC Championship games. Let’s give credit where credit is due here.
1. #3 ranked defense
2. One of the best, if not the best O-line in the league
3. Offensive playmakers i.e. Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery, Greene, Tomlinson, and let’s not forget about Brad Smith
4. As much as I hate to say it a pretty good HC. His players love playing for him.
Sanchez is no more than what Trent Dilfer was for Baltimore. A lucky QB that ended up on a good team!!!
You misunderstood or maybe I didn't word it right.
I KNOW it’s not Sanchez himself. Just like it’s not Brady all by himself. Or Rivers all by himself. They have a supporting cast. I KNOW that. But it’s the QB himself that teams build around. So you believe, just like others, one more for Henne. I read somewhere that he receives around $550,000 so he worth keeping even as a backup.
So, Laces, would you choose offensive with your first round or a few other picks?
I am looking forward to my first chance in a couple of weeks to see Jake Locker up close
I do not get to see a lot of Locker’s games where I live so I am going to watch the senior bowl coverage on the NFL network. Locker should draw a lot of attention since he will be the top QB prospect in attendence. I want to be able to watch some of these draft prospects up close. Jake Locker, Leonard Hankerson, DeMarco Murray, Mike Pouncey, Noel Devine,& DJ Williams are all going to be there ‘competing’ and I hope Sparano will give them each a serious look.
Ok,
as far as what I would want, I would like us to sign a free agent QB like Orton and also to draft a QB in the 1st round. Now, I personally like Gabbert, and I think that if he had a year to sit and get up to speed with NFL level of players, he could be a great QB for us.
As for what I think the dolphins will do, I think that they will either draft a RB (either Ingram or that kid from Illinois) or they will trade down and draft an O-lineman.
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Riding on the Blaine Train: The Draft Blaine Gabbert Bandwagon.
The thing about Gabbert is this -
While a lot of us would like a rookie QB to make some noise for us, I just have a feeling the Dolphins WILL NOT draft a QB in the first round. They may feel they have to work magic this year or else and I’m not sure drafting a rookie QB with #15 and having him sit a year will go over well with the FO. UNLESS, they put him in the fire, like Ryan, Flacco and Sanchez. ONLY THEN will they draft a QB in the first.
I’d like QB. Another thing – RB – your choice will make a lot of happy here – Mikel LeShoure of Illinois. I also like Ryan Williams, VA Tech; Jacquiss Rodgers, Oregon St.; DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma; and Evan Royster of Penn State. I’m sure one of them will be available in the third.
Well, like you asked for,
getting Gabbert is what I would like for them to do, but drafting a RB or trading down is what I think the Dolphins will do.
Like I said, I think Gabbert will be a really good QB, but I think that he just needs 1 year to sit and learn a bit. Which is why I would like for us to pick up Orton as a 1 year stopgap, let Henne be the backup and Gabbert as 3rd string while he learns, then the next year, start Gabbert.
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Riding on the Blaine Train: The Draft Blaine Gabbert Bandwagon.
I would like to get Gabbert...
but he will must likely be the first QB taken. In all honesty, I kind of hope we get Newton. I think he is very dynamic, has a strong arm, and can use his legs like Big Ben does. with a good OC (which I hope Daboll will prove to be) I think he will be a more athletic Big Ben. That sounds good to me.
Also, I really do not want to see us draft Lockler. I know he had no help in college, but I hate the idea of drafting a QB that didn’t win consistantly at lower levels. With that being said, if all the other top QBs are taken I would still draft Locker. Bottom line is we need a franchise QB and this draft has 4 guys with the potential to become one. We have to take one and hope we can help him get there
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As far as Tight End, I’ve read that a few of you want Miami to draft another one. Here’s the thing that I don’t understand. Why draft ANOTHER rookie? After Fasano, we have three rookie TEs and they all come from good institutions, Epps (Miami U), Shuler (Penn St.) and Mastrud (Kansas State).
Fasano is mediocre at best and the fact that none of these rookies have been able to take snaps from him doesn’t bode well for them. They were just a stopgap in a year that our TE depth was devastated.
If we have to get a TE, I’d rather acquire Chicago’s Greg Olsen or SF’s Vernon Davis somehow
These are two first round pick TEs that are still under contract. Yeah I would love either of them but I’m also rational.
I’m still not sold on Gabbert. If you really start to do some in depth research it really calls into question his maturity, dedication, and even some go as far as to say he is regularly out of shape (for a football player). He will also most likely be the first QB taken so totally out of reach. Jake Locker could be taken in the second half of the draft and give us the chance to trade down, pick up a second, and still get a QB.
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I’ve heard lots of complaints about the rookie TEs so I am to understand that we keep on drafting a TE until we find that special one? We could had Olsen but we got Ginn instead. But can’t a player, even though he is still under contract, can’t he still be traded?
Gabbert – they say he comes from the spread offense just like Newton. Maybe the safest bet is linemen or RB. Drop down and gather up another pick or two.
But tell me if you can about trading under contract – why wouldn’t that be allowed?
Don't equate playing in a spread
offense to mean that he won’t be able to produce in the NFL. Bradford played in a spread offense and he was able to adapt to a pro style offense. And many of the scouting reports I’ve read are saying that they think Gabbert will adjust to a pro style offense, but might need some time to sit before being thrown in to start.
And if we are talking about TEs, don’t forget that Zach Miller and Owen Daniels are both free agents as well.
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Riding on the Blaine Train: The Draft Blaine Gabbert Bandwagon.
A lot about drafting is gut feeling
For some reason when I see film of Gabbert I’m just not that impressed. There are also a bunch of interviews on youtube where you just hear him speak and you know he is an idiot. I have a much better feeling from Locker and he is a better value pick, remember this guy was the unanimous #1 last year. Chupa is absolutely right, there is no correlation between having played a spread and adapting to the pro game, especially since most of the QB’s we are talking about (Gabbert, Bradford, etc) were pass specialists in the spread and not running guys (Tebow).
As for the TE thing, this FO has not drafted a TE to date. Fasano came by a trade with Dallas and the other guys were UDFA, released by their drafting teams, or stolen off practice squads. A lot of people, myself included, are praying we draft DJ Williams from Arkansas if he is still on the board.
But can’t a player, even though he is still under contract, can’t he still be traded?
But tell me if you can about trading under contract – why wouldn’t that be allowed?
Trading under contract is allowed. My point there is that since both Greg Olsen and Vernon Davis are under contract the only way we could get them is by trading, or if they are released which is not going to happen. Since they are productive first round draft picks they will be very costly to acquire, a package deal of players and draft picks most likely. Since we have soo many needs spending a lot on a TE just doesn’t make sense.
And if we are talking about TEs, don’t forget that Zach Miller and Owen Daniels are both free agents as well.
Daneils concerns me because of the injury history. Miller is, in my opinion, the most complete TE playing the game today and would be a great addition. The problem is that Miller knows he is a top 5 TE and will demand a premium price. With needs along the interior line and QB we may not be able to spare the cap space.
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Just looked it up
Jeron Mastrud is an UDFA. Epps and Shuler were 7th round picks by the Chargers and Vikings, respectively. Fasano, a former second round pick, made his way to the Fins for a Fourth round pick.
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Gabbert will not be available
If Gabbert doesn’t go number 1 overall like some draft specialist think he will go soon after, he may not be the best QB but he is the best one available with the right skill set including all the measurables, I am a huge Mizzou fan and i have gotten to see alot of him over the last 2 years, he has good accuracy in the short to medium range but needs to work on the long ball, this past season he missed a lot of throws down the field when guys were open, in my opinion I don’t think i want him on the Dolphins he will be a project just like we already have, Mizzou used a lot of slants and short passes which is not what this team needs
I’m thinking with the new OC we get an offensive minded draft with some moves made for vets as well in free agency.
I don’t see the phins hanging onto the 1st pick if their guy isn’t there at 15. Their guy being a QB that is rated highly coming out of the combine. I see the OL being bolstered and with the futures contracts being signed now, maybe some vets on defense being shipped for picks as well.
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