WANT YOUR OPINIONS ON A MOCK -
by Cutie on Jan 16, 2011 6:42 PM EST
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PrintSaw this mock on another website. What are your opinions of this guy's picks. I personally don't understand mocks from people that browse through sites like this - you KNOW they are picking THEIR own favorite players - not players that fit the team. It's who they want. And then they ask other viewers, "Should we draft John Smith?" Are they really asking PERMISSION of other viewers? Then, once people respond and say "No, I don't want him" you don't hear from the original writer again. It's like the one who replied is setting the tone and telling someone that he doesn't know what to do and the original writer lets it happen. Please forgive me but this behavior confuses me and I can't seem to understand it and it happens each year. So, look at what he wrote, look at what three other people replied with and tell me if you think the original writer is correct or do you believe that the ones who replied make more sense. Look carefully, like you always do, naturally, at each player. This is being done now, before any news of the CBA and the combine where players always move up or down. People that you NEVER heard of - all of a sudden you fall on their bandwagon, you know what I'm saying. Can you people really blame me for not understanding this behavior. Why so early? I don't get it. Well, thank you for your time and appreciate your thoughts and opinions on this typical mock and reply.
Front Office:
Hire: Chargers TE coach Rob Chudzinski as new OC.
Transactions:
Re-sign: RB Ronnie Brown, OC Richie Incognito, FB Lousaka Polite, OLB Quentin Moses, TE Dedrick Epps, CB Al Harris and ILB Tim Dobbins.
Sign: OG Carl Nicks (NO), WR Brad Smith (NYJ), TE Zach Miller (OAK) and QB Shaun Hill (DET).
Franchise Tag: NT Paul Soliai.
Trades: QB Chad Henne to Arizona for 5th Round Pick.
Cuts: ILB Channing Crowder, TE Anthony Fasano and CB Benny Sapp.
The Draft:
Round 1: Cam Newton, Quarterback, Auburn
Round 3: Leonard Hankerson, Wide Receiver, Miami (Fla.)
Round 4: Ryan Williams, Running Back, Virginia Tech
Round 5: Casey Matthews, Linebacker, Oregon
Round 6: James Brewer, Offensive Tackle, Indiana
Round 7: John Moffitt, Offensive Guard, Wisconsin
Reply #1 -
Why would you cut Fasano and keep Epps?
Al Harris was waived injured and is 36 years old.
After the way Starks and Soliai played NT last season, why do you have Starks starting over Soliai?
There is no way in hell should the Dolphins use the Franchise Tag on Soliai. Paul had a good year but there is no way he deserves to be paid in the $6 to $7 million dollar range.
Reply #2 -
So cut the starting TE and not draft a new one? Doesn't make much sense there.
Also, I don't see Moffitt being available that far down. Most have him as a 3rd/4th round pick.
Reply #3 -
The Original Post has the Dolphins signing the Raiders TE Zach Miller to replace Fasano and resigning Dedrick Epps. I'm not sure if the OP knows we need at least THREE TEs on a football team.
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My opinion:
Round 1: I don’t mind drafting Newton if the coaches believe in him. I don’t think he could start immediately though.
Round 3: Hankerson would be a great pickup, but can he be a deep threat that we need?
Round 4: Williams would be a great pickup at RB. But I don’t know if he makes it to round 4.
Round 5: Matthews would be an ILB and I don’t really see him passing Crowder, Dobbins, or Edds on the depth chart.
Round 6: I haven’t read much about Brewer. I guess he’d be a good backup tackle.
Round 7: Moffitt is a great pickup. Just one issue: There’s no way he makes it to round 7. He’s 4th round at worst.
As far as the rest of your offseason goes: Fasano will stay over Epps. He just had a career year and signed an extension. I don’t think Crowder is going anywhere either. I don’t think Nicks or Miller will be available. I don’t see us trading Henne, as he has a cheap contract with one year left, he can be a good backup if needed, and has little to no trade value at this point.
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LOL WTF! This is terrible lol!
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Its not too bad in terms of players
Moffitt, Hankerson, and Williams would be great pickups. I’m still iffy about Newton. I don’t really know about the other guys that much. I don’t think Moffitt makes past the 4th round and Hankerson will probably be a 2nd round pick. Williams could make it to the 4th since he had an injury this season which could hurt his draft stock.
Overall, that’s a pretty good draft. But I don’t think its realistic in terms of where guys are projected to go.
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Yeah, Newton's a project, so it's pointless to draft him and then jet Henne's sorry ass (though I can't wait to eventually get rid of him)
I’d like Locker, but I can see him killing the combine/pro day and getting the attention of teams like SF (Harbaugh used to coach in the Pac 10, so he’s well aware of what Locker can do) and Washington. The jury is still out on Gabbert and Mallett, though I don’t mind either of them, so the it’s hard to say if we’ll get a good crack at a QB in round one. If not, I expect us to trade down and try to lock up either Gabe Carimi or Pouncey twin No.2. I know, I know … we need to get more explosive. But we need to get that second-round pick back at some point, and we can justify a move like this if we sign DeAngelo Williams or Darren Sproles (or BOTH!!!) this offseason.
You’re probably saying, “What about QB!?” Well, since our FO has proven to not know shit about drafting the position, I am expecing Ireland and Co. to go after someone via FA or trade. I don’t necessarily agree with this move, but the rest of this team is ready to win now—sixth-ranked defense in 2010, and an offense with studs like Jake Long, Brandon Marshall and Davone Bess—so it’s likely, IMO, that our FO will sell out and go for the quick fix at QB.
Of course, this depends on what we do with Incog. If he’s not here, I think we’ll go after Pouncey No.2. If he is, I think we could spring for Carimi, who would just destroy souls over on the right side of the offensive line (his mean streak is also similar to Long’s). Again, our aim is to get better and more explosive on offense, but if we’re going BPA after trading down, Pouncey or Carimi might be the ticket. And we must go after one of the running backs available in FA this offseason.
I like the Hankerson and Moffitt picks, but no way in hell he falls to the seventh round; he’s one of the better guards available this year.
Jake Locker in 2011! NO EXCUSES THIS YEAR
I've never won a Matty, so I'll give myself the "Classic Marino BALLS" award. Thanks to all who voted for me.
I agree with that
Nice writeup on our season BTW!
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Thanks! You read it already? That's crazy
Jake Locker in 2011! NO EXCUSES THIS YEAR
I've never won a Matty, so I'll give myself the "Classic Marino BALLS" award. Thanks to all who voted for me.
Bunch of things
1. I do like the resigning of Ronnie Brown only if the price is right, he doesn’t deserve much.
2. Love the Zach Miller pickup but he is going to cost an arm and a leg.
3. Disagree with all of your cuts.
4. Please for the love of god not Cam Newton
5. Leonard Hankerson is painfully slow. Projecting a high 4.4 to low 4.5 fourty time. We need speed not another big possession guy.
6. Ryan Williams will be gone by the fourth.
7. I would rather have David Arkin. He seems like a Sparano guy.
Flying first class on Air Marshall.
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Can you feel the EarthqWake.
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why would anyone want cam newton for the dolphins?
cam newton is another vince young or jamarcus russell, big dudes who can run, with big inaccurate arms and huge headcases.
Newton is not the headcase that Young is and is much more accurate than Russell
That being said, his interviews and stuff will determine how high he gets drafted. I’ve read and heard that from several draft guys. If he shows maturity, then he’ll go higher.
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Draft newton
not willing to give Henne 2 years
Newton is a mega project
Nope
Not a good idea
Trading Henne for a 5th rounder nope
At worst he is a good backup
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
GET PETE CARMICHAEL JR. FOR HC RIGHT NOW!
Michael Lombardi says it only takes 20 starts to evaluate a QB...
Not three or more seasons. But I agree that Newton is a project. I wouldn’t mind drafting him if we had a veteran QB who could be a stopgap for a season, if Newton wasn’t able to start immediately. If you want to discuss Newton though, talk to Little Nicky. He would be able to discuss it better with you.
I agree that trading Henne would make no sense because he has no trade value right now and he’s under contract cheap next year.
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There's a reason he doesn't work in the NFL anymore.
Michael Lombardi says it only takes 20 starts to evaluate a QB…
And that quote says it all.
But I guess you’d expect that from his failed experience as a director of player personnel for the Cleveland Browns. Turning a perennial playoff contender to a bottom feeder.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Well that's your opinion...
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Well by all means form your own then.
Here’s his resume:
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Michael_Lombardi_(American_sportscaster)
Now given the positions he held, tell me how much you would value his evaluation of QB talent.
And for further proof, here’s his great drafting ability of QB talent:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1987&year_max=1996&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=cle&pos=QB&conference=any&show=all
It may be my opinion, but it’s one based on facts.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
That's nice
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by The Earl on Jan 16, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Take it easy there, luvs2argue
Cleveland competed for the AFC Central crown all but three years while Lombardi was their pro personnel director. Not sure if that warrants the label of “Cleveland Browns franchise destroyer.” Besides, that title firmly belongs to Art Modell!
Jake Locker in 2011! NO EXCUSES THIS YEAR
I've never won a Matty, so I'll give myself the "Classic Marino BALLS" award. Thanks to all who voted for me.
Did you even look up the records before you commented?
Cause I’m not sure where you got the notion that Cleveland competed for the AFC Central crown all but 3 years. When he arrived they were a 12-4 team and were dominating the AFC Central. They then proceeded to get worse every year culminating in a 3-13 record and then 4 years finishing 3rd or worse in the division. Never going above .500 until one season of 11-5 before going back to 5-11 his last and final season.
While original Browns fans may dislike Modell purely on the fact he moved their beloved team. I’m sure Ravens fans are more than happy with him. Although since he was the one most likely responsible for hiring Lombardi, I guess you can split the blame for turning a team that was a perennial playoff contender to a team void of new talent and was eventually relocated.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
I still believe trading down in the first round is the best option
Even if our QB is there at 15, the teams right behind us are the Jaguars, Patriots, Chargers, Giants, Buccaneers, Seahawks, Chiefs. Beyond the Chiefs, all the teams still to draft in the first round are solid at QB. Miami can trade down Maybe five spots with the Buccaneers, and still can get their QB and even save some contract money with him. The only other team in the 2nd half of the draft that may be QB hungry is the Seahawks, and if Pete Carroll is sold on either Whitehurst or Hasselback, then they most likely will look at WR in the first round. The only other possibility is for a team to trade up from the early 2nd round, which will be very costly for teams. I think that the Browns doing that for Brady Quinn and busting out should scare off teams from such a massive risk. Doing so cost the browns F/O and Denver’s F/O their jobs.
2011 - The Year of the Dolphin
I live in Jacksonville
And even though Garrard had a decent year, everyone is calling for a QB in the 1st round. Not only that but Del Rio has said they need to be more aggressive about bringing in talent at the QB position.
Whoever wrote this doesn't have a firm grasp of what's going on in Dolphinland. Or the NFL for that matter.
Franchise Soliai? Are you serious?
Cut Fasano who just signed a contract extension? Then replace him with another guy who’s basically an identical player?
Re-sign Al Harris? What part of 35 year old injury riddled knees makes this guy attractive? I’m surprised he’s not advocating re-signing CP10 for QB.
Sign Shaun Hill? Kind of hard to sign a guy who’s under contract with another team.
As for the draft, I doubt Cam Newton will still be there when we draft, but even if he is it would be such a horrible idea.
I will however give him props for having us select Matthews just because he played for Oregon.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
I thought that too -
Soliai played one good season. Came on strong. Good player that we could depend on now. We don’t have to wonder about him. But to franchise him? Cutting Fasano who, like you said, just signed a contract? And replace him with a rookie. We have 3 rookie TE’s on the team. Even if we draft another, what makes anyone think that rookie could be better than the three we already have? But one never knows. And the writer said to sign Harris when the guy who replied said he was injured and waived. I like Matthews. But he won’t be there in the fifth round. Moffitt won’t be there in the 7th round.
I read this on a website a little while back. Don’t remember which one. The writer stated that with the Sparano situation as it is now, that there is a possibility that the Dolphins may NOT draft a QB, especially in the first round – for this reason – that Sparano has ONE YEAR to make it right. FORGET THE EXTENSION. According to that contract, Sparano CAN BE FIRED this season and he will STILL GET PAID FOR THE FULL 2 YEAR EXTENSION. That extension is window-dressing. That’s what we call punitive damages.
So, with only one year, it will be extremely difficult to “waste” that year teaching a rookie QB to be the starter. Personally, I disagree. But, there are so many things that I don’t know, like all the intangibles that I’m sure I’m missing some important information. But I still disagree and feel if we do draft a top-notch QB, I believe with our new OC, he can amount to something and we could salvage the season.
I don’t understand the love for Newton. Everyone is falling on his bandwagon. I won’t. There will be someone else AFTER THE COMBINE. When everyone gets tested and there is also the Senior Bowl. We could always see who plays and who doesn’t.
As far as the mock, the guy that wrote this is just picking players for the hell of it – THAT’S why I wanted your opinions. I trust you guys more than anyone else. I don’t know you but I trust your opinions. You’re good guys. You spend time thinking and analyzing. Sure, people could say that they spent a week on their mock but I’m still not impressed.
If anyone has other comments, I would be much appreciated. And thanks to you above for your comments. I thought his mock seemed very strange to me. Especially with our very own players being cut and signed (and franchised ?).
henne to arizona
that wont happen. Ross trusts Henne still and although they will get a QB via free agency or draft, Henne still could be starting next year.
this what i think.................
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jan 16, 2011 10:03 PM EST reply actions
Earl what do you think about Mcdainels R we gonna resign or what & if we don't whatcha think of...
Ryan Kerrigan-pitt’s if you can find a tape of this kid he’s looking realgood thx!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 16, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions
P.S. rec'd!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 16, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
McDaniels would be a good OC for us
I just don’t know if he could co-exist with Marshall and Nolan.
I haven’t seen much of Kerrigan but he seems like a good DE prospect. I think we’ll focus on offense more in this draft.
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by The Earl on Jan 16, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kerrigan is nasty. He'd most likely move to OLB in the NFL
He’s on the small side for a 4-3 defensive end, but he has outrageous skill as a pass rusher. Awesome player!
Jake Locker in 2011! NO EXCUSES THIS YEAR
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take Crowder trade him to Denver withour 1st. pick get denver's 2 & 4th this year & there 1st next year!'
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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 17, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
take denver's 1st & our 1st move up & take Mr. luckY!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 17, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Next year insteed of trading our whole draft this year as sum have exspessed!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 17, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Here goes.....
1. McDaniels for OC or prove to me there is a more dynamic OC out there. So far I am not impressed by any of the guys that we have brought in as OC. I fear we might not be much better off than we were last year. I hope we don’t hire someone like Childress. Bottom line McDaniels is the most qualified candidate and I hope we can smooth over the differences with Nolan and Marshall and make this happen. We have to beat the Jets and Pats in our division and this is how we turn the corner. Both Marshall and Nolan want to make the playoffs and I don’t think if McDaniels can put us there they would stay upset with him.
2. Re-sign:
RB Ronnie Brown
OC Richie Incognito
FB Lousaka Polite
OLB Quentin Moses
ILB Tim Dobbins(until AJ Edds or Spitler beat him out)
NT Paul Soliai.(he hasn’t proven enough to need franchise money).
3. Sign:
OG, Logan Mankins(NE),
OG Carl Nicks (NO)
WR Brad Smith (NYJ) or Mike Sims-Walker (JAC)
TE Zach Miller (OAK), Marcedes Lewis (JAC), or Owen Daniels (HOU)
4. Draft the best QB available in the first round. If we feel we need to move up to get our guy I would be ok with that. What I would not be ok with is drafting anything else with our first pick. We know that Henne did not perform this year and if he doesn’t pan out, what is our backup plan? Also, explain to me the team that is crying because it has too many franchise QBs.
5. Wait until at least round 3 to go after a RB. There are plenty of guys we could grab in later rounds that can come in and make a difference in our running game. I like Ronnie, but he tends to hesitate a little too much and he is just not quick enough to do that. If he had Chris Johnson speed I don’t think anyone would complain, but the more he hesitates the more the whole defense swarms to him. I think he has value, but we need to see if we can upgrade the position with speed if Sheets does not pan out the way I am hoping he will.
4. Draft all offense. What do we need on defense really? I mean unless there is a clear cut Vince WIlfork out there in the draft that we can grab that can take us to the next level on defense I really don’t see where we need help. We have a bunch of young guys that are developing still and will only get better. Don’t panic about drops, or lack of plays. They will come around. But even if they don’t come around we have a top 5 defense. We can win a lot of games with our defense if our offense stops being completely inept.
Soliai is doing good, but he is no Vince Wilfork yet—Don’t kid yourself. That guy takes on double teams on every single play and wins them. Soliai doesn’t even get double teamed every play yet. You would never not double team Wilfork and it means there is one less lineman to block your LBs.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 16, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions
um... or 6. Draft all offense
wish I could go back and edit a comment… oh well … no one reads my comments anyway ….
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 16, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I read it and agree except for Lousaka Polite.
I think we would get the same value out of Lex Hilliard with better pass-catching ability and better blocking. i especially like Marcedes Lewis. he would be a great complement to Fasano.
The 2010 Miami Dolphins. Here's to 2011!
I like how everyone wants to draft a QB and they act like it is a for sure thing
but then they will say sanchez is only average and the jets traded up in the first to get him
lol people
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Its not a sure thing ....
But we keep drafting QBs until we are sure we have the position taken care of.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 17, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
even a 1st rd Qb is not for sure!
wopper "the king" computer
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 17, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
We still need a developmental guy.
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i understand that but that can come in the later rounds or we might already have a developmental guy on the roster
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here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
I don't think its a sure thing
but I think they will take a QB in this draft. He may not be a first rounder, but I think they’ll bring in a young guy to develop and give Henne competition.
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I actually think there is a very good chance we will not take a QB in the 1st round.
I will be honest in that out of the projected 1st rounders I have only watched Newton and Mallett a considerable amount, but I am not impressed with any of the four. I think that there are two later round prospects who have a better shot of success at the next level than either of them: Pat Devlin of Delaware and (warning: FSU fan bias ahead) Christian Ponder.
I only watched Devlin in maybe a half of the FCS championship game, but just from that little bit I could tell that he really goes through his progressions. Plus, he’s got some good athleticism.
I have watched probably every game Ponder has played in, and no doubt he had a disappointing year this year (even though the team got 10 wins). But he went into the year as the number 2 QB prospect behind Locker, and I really believe that his elbow played a major factor in his down year. Now if his elbow is something serious, then obviously we need to stay away, but I think if either of these 2 guys are available with our 3rd rounder then we grab him.
I don't think Ponder has the arm to playin the NFL.
It is hard enough to coac a QB prospect, let alone one that is physically hampered.
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There have been QB's with Ponder's arm strength that have succeeded in the league,
most notably Drew Brees and Tom Brady. Not only that, but as I mentioned earlier, he was hampered all year by an elbow injury which took away from his arm strength.
Being able to make all the throws definitely is a major plus when talking about QB’s, but I believe that a QB’s ability to read the defense and feel the pocket pressure are more important, something that both Devlin and Ponder are good at.
Ever heard of Luck or are you excluding him because of him staying in school?
Ponder went into this season as a projected late 1st or early second, which would mean that he’d go in the early second because, barring trades, nt many teams in the late 1st are looking for a QB of the future.
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When I say "the four", I am referring to:
Locker, Newton, Gabbert, and Mallett. So, yeah, I am not including Luck because he is not coming out and these 4 are. And IMO if Ponder had a senior season like his junior season than he would be included with those 4. So, since his down year was due to an injury, then assuming his injury is not long term, we should definitely scoop him up if available in the third.
Devlin is one of the few QBs that could sneak into the draft with a late 1st round grade
It will depend on his combine and workouts. He and Enderle from Idaho are some guys I think we should keep our eyes on. Devlin is an accurate QB with good athleticism. He doesn’t have the elite arm strength, but he can be a decent QB.
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One small comment -
I’ve seen it mentioned before and would like a “little bit” more detailed information. What is this fascination with Quentin Moses? I don’t get to see many games up here in NY unless they are playing the Jets. So those that see the games every Sunday, would welcome your comments. Thank you.
He has flashed some pass rushing skills in limited snaps
and I think the coaches mistake him for BM. They look similar.
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I think his strength is more against the run.
Seems to do a good job of setting the edge. As far as pass rushing, I think he’s the type who cleans up the sack rather than collapsing the pocket or causing pressure on the outside.
Well in 3 years I've noticed he has not improved
his pass rush techniques. All he has is the speed rush and bull rush.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
Do you believe he's worth keeping?
You both (PotM and GoPhish) didn’t seem to write with enthusiasm. You wrote “He flashed SOME” and “SEEMS to do a job job” You see? You guys know FAR MORE than I; I’m not ashamed to admit that. I encourage your thoughts.
That’s why I wonder about this guy. I always seem to see his name on our roster that you guys make up. And I wonder why.
Is he capable of being used as trade bait or does Sparano like him too much?
Well, he did well against the bucs last year and got some time
this year, but always against inferior talent. I never see him in coverage, that is either good or bad. He is a solid backup, but if Wake goes down, there will be a noticable difference in production. He won’t ever be a stater and with Wake aging, we need to get a high draft pick to replace him, as 34 OLBs take a few years to understand how to play the position, but he can hold down the fort until we get that guy. Now if we draft a raw guy like we did McCoy last year and that developmental guy equals Moses, we should go with the younger guy as Moses hasn’t improved in his 3 year tenure.
P.S. I’m sorry you have to live with Jets fans.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
I think I remember him getting a lot of time against the Vikings this year,
probably because they like to run the ball, but Peterson still ran for something like 150 against us so he couldn’t have done that well.
I think that was IAF
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
He's the run 'expert' he also was the second guy to get the
fumble in the endzone in the PITT game, the first was dansby.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
Thanks, PotM, for your thoughts on your P.S.
One of my dearest friends, LOVES the Jets. What can I do?
Hide for the next week?
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
On that last part, he could be used as trade bait, but
would only be used like Dobbins was, just a add-in to and already good trade.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
I think he's one of those guys you would like to upgrade
but considering that a lot of teams are switching to the 3-4 that’s hard to do. I’ve heard that a big reason why more teams aren’t switching to the 3-4 is because there is a shortage of personnel that can actually run the defense. That’s probably more because NT’s are so hard to come by, but I don’t know enough about it to speak too intelligently on the subject.
Ryan Williams in round 4? How does the 2nd best RB in this years draft and a 1st-2nd round pick fall to the middle of the 4th?
Yo! Pass the weed!
Writer at MockingTheDraft.com. Does this make me a "Draft Expert"? lol.
by JP 23 on Jan 17, 2011 11:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I KNOW - HE WON'T BE THERE!
Williams will be gone. Matthews will be gone. Moffitt was gone 4 rounds earlier. You see what I mean?
His Team mate would be a nice add on. He got injured in his sophmore year
and Williams never looked back, but Evans is a very talented and possibly more talented than Williams.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
My opinion: The original Author of this Mock is smoking more weed than Tim Lincecum, Cheech & Chong, and the entire cast of Half Baked combined.
There is little point in picking apart this mock beyond summing it up as overpaying where not necessary, dumping cheap talent for equally skilled expensive talent, knee-jerk stupidity and having no sense of the draft prospects in this years draft.
I would like to add one thing to what we should do: sign undrafted free agent Ricardo Lockette (WR-Fort Valley State) after the draft. The guys a track star at FVS with and avg 40-time of 4.36 with sub 4.3 speed. Sign him, try him out, then cut him if he can’t catch/is unwilling to take a hit (a la Ginn), or get him on the active 53 if he can hack it. Also trade down in round 1 to recoup a 2nd rounder. Draft a speedster WR. We need to enter camp with real potential for a Santonio Holmes type WR on the roster and we need to exit camp with that man firmly set on the active roster. This would also allow us to add some real pop to our KR/PR game.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
THANK YOU.
I knew there was something wrong with his mock. So early, too. Give the college players time to move around the boards.
Are you sure that Al isn't going to draft
Lockette in the 3rd?
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "Font" Nazi - Alpha6
The "pm striker king"- WZB The "reply" Nazi -Aplha6
Leader of Sparano for RedZone Play Caller and Fire Dave DeGuglielmo Bandwagon
"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
It's very possible but if he doesn't, then we can sign him. :)
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 17, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Have you guys looked at this website?
www.drafttek.com They have a list, “Players Big Board” of their top 50 players, then the next 100, until they reach 450. (1-50, 51-150, 151-250, etc). It’s one of the draft sites I use – kept separately from professional sites.
Those of you who aren’t familiar with it, may I suggest you look tonight? I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. It also have the valuable “TRADE CHART” for you to print out and keep with you draft day.
I have approximately 20 websites in my “Draft” folder.
BUT I LEARN A GREAT DEAL FROM YOU ALL. THANKS.
I'm sticking with my guns here
First of all, I don’t think Anthony Fasano is that bad. There’s about 8 different positions I would try and fill first before committing a high draft pick or hefty money for another TE. The guy’s a blocking TE first, and he does it reasonably well. He chips in with a little bit of offense here and there, and that’s fine.
Moving on, I wouldn’t be adverse in going a couple different routes with the #1 pick. For example, I wouldn’t mind trading down from #15 and picking up say the #23 pick plus a second rounder, and taking someone like Pouncey and using the second rounder on a PROVEN winner at QB like Andy Dalton. I’m tired of drafting these ‘toolsy’ QB’s high, who have good tools but do aren’t winners. We don’t necessarily need a QB with the greatest arm or who is the most athletic; we need someone who has pocket presence and great QB IQ. Joe Montana was a middle round pick and Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th round. They may not have had the greatest tools, but the were leaders and winners and make great plays because they understand the game of football. Andy Dalton fits this criteria. Also wouldn’t be adverse to Pat Devlin or a toolsey project + winner in Colin Kaepernick.
In the third round I’m going either slightly undersized speed demon WR threat (a la Mike Wallace) or a RB like Jordan Todman or Taiwan Jones or Roy Helu or Kendell Hunter. I like the idea of drafting a smaller/faster runner and alternating him with a bruising type of runner, like Michael Bush, who are a dime a dozen. As much as I like R. Williams and R. Brown, they are pretty much the same runner and don’t give us much contrast. 1 or both are gone anyway.
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