Up next for Miami Dolphins? Finding the right offensive coordinator
by Matty I on Jan 11, 2011 5:00 AM EST
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PrintWith the head coaching saga behind us and Tony Sparano returning for another season - or three - the Miami Dolphins will now turn their attention to filling the current vacancies on their coaching staff, particularly on the offensive side of things.
Dan Henning is out as the team's offensive coordinator. This was confirmed on Saturday. Today we learned that quarterback coach David Lee will not return as he heads to Ole Miss to be their offensive coordinator, leaving two critical spots that Tony Sparano must fill on his coaching staff. And there probably couldn't be any more pressure on Sparano to find the right guys - particularly the offensive coordinator - to help jump start what was a stagnant Dolphins offense (and that's putting it nicely).
Under Dan Henning, Miami's offense has regressed each year since the unit finished 12th in total offense back in 2008 - the regime's first season here. The offense fell to 17th in 2009 and finished 21st in total offense this past season. The Dolphins averaged only 17.1 points per game this past season as well - the third lowest total in the entire league.
Speaking on the team-run radio program, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross stressed the importance of dramatically improving the offense.
"I’ve told Tony that, to me, I want an aggressive, creative (offense), not playing just to keep it close," said Ross. "A little bit more unpredictable, and opening it up. That’s what I think South Florida wants, and that’s what this climate demands."
"This isn’t the north, where you want to just take it 4 yards and a cloud of dust," Ross added. "I think I look for a different brand. Seeing the Dolphins, how fans want to see them, how we win, we’re going downfield, the days of Dan Marino, the days we all want to go back to."
From what I've read various places, though, it seems like a number of Dolphin fans don't feel that a Tony Sparano team will ever be aggressive. That idea, though, is not based on fact.
The fact is Sparano called plays for a top five offense back in 2006 when he was in Dallas as the offensive line coach and assistant head coach. That year, the Cowboys averaged 360 yards per game (5th in league) and 26.6 points per game (4th in league). And wouldn't you know that the bulk of the offensive production that season for Sparano came through the air. The Cowboys were the 5th ranked passing offense in the NFL. And their average of 8 yards per pass attempt was tops in the entire league.
The idea that Sparano's teams will always have conservative, run-first offenses is simply not true. The thing is, of course, Sparano needs to have the pieces in place to open up the offense. And an aggressive offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach are the first pieces to Miami's offensive puzzle that have to fall into place.
So who might that right piece be for the open offensive coordinator spot? I couldn't tell you. What I can tell you is that the Dolphins plan on interviewing Chargers TE coach Rob Chudzinski, who previously was the offensive coordinator for the Browns in 2007 and 2008 as well as the University of Miami's OC from '01 to '03. In his first season as Cleveland's offensive coordinator, the Browns had a top ten offense that featured a vertical passing attack led by Derek Anderson and his 3700 yard, 29 touchdown season. But that unit took a serious step back in 2008, leading to Chudzinski's departure from the Browns.
The Dolphins will also likely interview Cowboys TE coach John Garrett for their offensive coordinator position. Garrett is the brother of newly named Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett. He has the "pedigree" to be a good head coach and is as bright as they come (a Princeton graduate). He's familiar with Tony Sparano as well as Anthony Fasano, who he worked closely with in 2007.
But my personal favorite to be the next offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins - though there are no reports he's even been contacted or considered by the Dolphins - is former Texas Tech head coach Mike Leach. Leach is known for his aggressive, creative offensive mind - exactly what this team needs. Leach's offenses have broken a number of NCAA records in the past. And he's turned quarterbacks like Tim Couch, Josh Heupel, and Graham Harrell into prolific college quarterbacks.
Why not give Leach a shot in the pros now?
Maybe I'm crazy, I'll admit that. But the bottom line here is that the Dolphins need to improve on offense. They need to get creative. They need to be aggressive and attack down the field. And it'll be the job of Miami's next offensive coordinator to make it happen.
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Not sure if i want any of those TE coaches to become the fins OC
With that being said, I will take Leach
1st order of business - sign asumugha from raiders.
2nd order of business – see if brad smith is going to make it into free agency and jump on him like a bum on a sandwich
3rd order of business – find new OC…..
4th order of business – find a QB that’s comfortable moving in the pocket with a quick release….
OK, that’s my wish list Mr. Ross, thanks in advance…
Mankins! I'd be worried about getting the CB because we have so much young talent
and Aso has been in the league for a long time. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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He'll be 30 at the start of next season
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So, what is that in CB years?
I know that after 31 OLBs tend to be straight down-hill.
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I think Parcells said 33 was when he thought LBs went downhill
As long as Asomugha can maintain his speed and athleticism, then he’d be fine. But once he starts slowing down, he’ll be less effective. He’s probably got about 3 good years left. 5 years if he stays very healthy.
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Well, there were reports I read that JP turned 31 over
the 08 – 09 offseason and ‘experts’ said that 08 was his best year and he would go downhill from there, and look what happened.
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He's on the downward slide
He’s a situational pass rusher these days and will never be a full time OLB or DE again.
However, players have access to better medical things that could help prolong their careers. But even with that, its hard to maintain a high level of athleticism into your mid thirties, especially when your body has taken football abuse since high school or even earlier.
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Jason Taylor won the AP DPOY at age 32.
Kevin Greene had 5 years of 10+ sacks after the age of 32.
Derrick Brooks was an All-Pro at the age of 32.
Mike Singletary was an All Pro at the age of 33.
Rickey Jackson had 3 years of 10+ sacks after the age of 32, and one of 9.5.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
I think we'll start seeing more and more pro athletes playing well into their 30s now
since there is so much medical stuff (legal) that can help prolong their careers.
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by The Earl on Jan 11, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the chemical Dside just what u need!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
As an Aggie
I say hell no to leach lol
It would be interesting to say the least, but the guy is a douche who ran a gimmicky spread offense while at tech
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LOL I actually like the guy but yeah that crazy ass offense will not work at this level.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Settle down "princess" -- LMAO!!
I’m still laughing about that from yesterday.
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by DolphinNation on Jan 11, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
LOL Yeah real funny!
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
You need to nip that "princess" stuff in the bud
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Ehh. Hes just messing with me so its all good.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
so I can call you princess too?
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
No to Leach!!!!!!
Leach brings the same 5yard and a cloud of whatever the Defense gives you??? How about Brian Billick? The old Ravens HC and Vikings OC. Randall Cunningham to Moss? Highest scoring O for that yr of 98? Now he nows how to open up an offense, plus keep it balanced with the run. Robert Smith. He would be the perfect fit for Sparano,Henne, Marshall, Fasano, Brown, and all the young talent the fish have. Miami has to get O lineman that can run block and pass block. Not one or the other as a strength (i.e. Jake Long). He can do both even injured he was better than any other Olineman we had. Miami needs a balanced attack with the deep ball threat. The jab,jab,jab, go for the big play type O. Third and +9 will be no problem for this O type. That is my take! We do not need the College type O like Leach would bring…NFL to fast for that style O. IMO.
You mean Daunte Culpepper to Moss?
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
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by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 11, 2011 5:53 AM EST up reply actions
no, he means cunningham to moss
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by frostyphinfan on Jan 11, 2011 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
They were exciting! But further proof that Cunningham was just a choke artist
His performance in that championship game was terrible. Strongest arm in the league and he would underthrow Moss? Overthrow him and the guy still had a chance to catch it. Underthrow him and the DB has a chance to catch it. Simple.
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
but do you think he would take a coordinator job? He could probably land a HC job.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I read that
he was enquiring about the 49er OC. I think it would be an easy transition for him. Less pressure then being the HC. That would be a way for him to get back into the league if he eventually wanted to become a HC again someday.
Ah... thanks I hadn't heard the 49ers bit
Also not everyone is as ambitious especially as they get older and have already “been there”
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Wow sound's like henne just a bit there!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Billick is a SB winning HC
The most impressive thing about his SB win is that he had Trent Dilfer as QB. IDK about any of you but to if I’m an owner looking for a HC I’m strongly considering BB, because he won a title with TRENT DILFER AT QB! However, if I’m looking for an OC…… as an owner……. you have to wonder if a guy that won a title w/TRENT DILFER AT QB…… would even take a job as an OC. You have to believe he has much better options than that at his disposal.
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I think what you meant to say was.....
He won the SB despite having Dilfer at QB. Make no mistake, he didn’t make Dilfer a great QB. Brian Billick won that SB because he had one of the best defenses the NFL has ever seen, and the 5th ranked rushing attack. Ryan Leaf could of QB’ed that team to a Super Bowl win.
You also seem to forget that the reason Billick lost his job in Baltimore was because of his offensive deficiencies.
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Just a side rant
Ryan Leaf never busted because of talent.
His issues were
1. He couldn’t handle criticism. period.
2. He had a major wrist injury that plagued him through his entire career.
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Can one really call 25 games in the NFL a career?
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So I stopped thinking.
It is what it is
and his recent arrest was because of pain meds for that same wrist. Plus I think he did some backup work somewhere
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Yes he did do some backup work.
That would have been games 22, 23, 24, and 25 of his short disastrous stint in the NFL with the Cowboys. Cause that’s really what it was, a stint.
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So I stopped thinking.
I'm excited to see who we get .....
I can’t say no to anyone. As long as it is not Henning I will be happy. Whoever TS picks I am sure he will make sure it is the right fit and everyone is on board.
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If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
If Henning was a little more scrappy, & less vanilla. Being as how it will be henne's 4th year i wood say one more year!
But damn we need point’s with time running down he call’s for a dump pass, I’m suprized Henne didn’t look over & throw his hands palm up?
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
FREE HENNE... SIGN McDANIELS!!!!!!!
Look all you people think that he would clash with Nolan and Marshall are sleep. he isn’t the HC and WILL NOT have the same control and power he did at Denver. all he would be responsible for is making our offense explosive. he did it in New England with Brady. made Casell look like a pro bowler and made KYLE FREAKING ORTON LOOK LIKE MARINO!!!!!!!! imagine how he would fix henne. he is a prick and would beat being aggressive into henne’s robot, conservative ass. and do u really think Marshall will complain when he is catching 100+ catches, racking up yards and TD’s???? NO. Mr. Ross and Sparano, you say you want a explosive, aggressive, attacking, TD machine of an offense, GO GET JOSH MCDANIELS!!!!!!!!!!
I'm really intrested in Rob
he has NFL experience and helped run the top offense this year. I’m weary of college only coaches…although at this point a Magic 8 ball with plays on it is an improvement over Henning.
I don't think that offense that he runs will translate in the NFL.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I tend to agree w/you but what if
we had a guy like Newton or Vince Young or even Mike Vick running that offense? Would that make a difference? Do any of the players currently on our roster translate into a Leach style offense? Is there a way that Leach’s style could be toned down to make it work in the league?
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by madcitydave on Jan 11, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I guess. I am just going off of what he did in college.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I understand
I would think whoever we hire as our next OC would be coming here not only w/a chance to be the OC but also w/the possibility of becoming the Dolphins next head coach or the HC of another NFL team. If he can somehow turn things around in S. Florida than maybe he has the right stuff to be a HC.
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by madcitydave on Jan 11, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if all the crazy stuff he does will work in the NFL but then again Glanville survived for quite a while.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Glanville survived because he ran the NFL's equivalent of the college spread offense.
The run’n’shoot offense he ran in Houston with Warren Moon. But that was back in the 80’s and early 90’s, and died shortly after that.
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Great except for thats not the kind of crazy I am talking about.
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
People said the wildcat wood not work also!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn't anymore
I’d like a coach that will stand the test of time, and not 1.5 seasons before he’s been had.
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I still think it is the O-line.
The WC is just like every other formation.
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if they do
bring in leach to run some sort of spread offense, look for Cam Newton to be miami’s first round pick.
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Auburn Guys Looked Good...
Newton didn’t look too bad last night, but the guy I was most impressed with was Nick Fairley….that guy’s a beast…
sh!t Carter linebacker also!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Kolb?
Am surprised i haven’t heard anyone talking about grabbing him? I don’t think he’s amazing and maybe not the best long term solution, but he might actually be the best guy we could realistically add for next year…..
Klob IMO isn't much of an improvment over Henne
Call me crazy, but to me he may be even more of a risk primarlirly due to his lack of playing experience. I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.
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by inishe8 on Jan 11, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i like the new nickname you gave him - klob - haha
i hear ya, from the little i’ve seen of him, and not being an expert, it seems like he sees the field better than henne and can buy some time moving in the pocket.
at best henne might shed a tackle or two with his size but doesn’t use that extra time to look down field.
LOL Klob.... I really screwed that one huh...good catch
But in regards to Kolb. He’s a decent player and I agree with you 100% that his field vision is better than Henne, but this at this point in his career at 27 or 28 yrs of age he’s still an unknown product. He was replaced as starter (like Henne) after being given the job (like Henne). My point here is that the two QB’s are a lot alike in terms of physical talent (Kolb having better field awarness). The advantage Kolb has overall is the fact that he’s still a relativly unknown that’s had more good showings than bad. Yet as a long term starter he’s been a little better than the guy we currently have under center. Do I think he’s an upgrade? Yes I honetsly do. But with that in mind is there a big enough of a difference to give up what the Eagles will want for him? I’m not so sure. That is the key on this whole thing. Because if we’re looking to upgrade we’re looking to go from a drizzle to a thunder storm and IDK if he makes us any better than scattered showers.
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if he arrives in miami you can mint the "klob" shirts if he stinks
but yeah, price is definitely gonna be a key component. while i think he’s an upgrade, i agree that i still wouldn’t feel totally comfortable in pinning all of our hopes and dreams on him. he did effectively replace mcnabb, just unlucky for him that vick turned into a beast this year.
we want to get him in free agency philly wont keep both!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure about the candidates...
I just hope that we pick up someone that’s agressive, but not necessarily full of trick plays or wildcat formations. Nice to see that David Lee took another position before he got canned…I question having Tight End coaches progress to OCs…I’d like to see someone with more OC or HC experience in that position, rather than a specialty coach. Maybe it will work, maybe not.
I just hope we hear something soon!
Timeline doesn't matter to me
I just hope our FO does their homework and brings in a guy who will:
1. Be able to work well with Sparano.
2. Install a system that will work to the strengths of our team, and not force his system that won’t play to our team’s strengths.
3. More creative than Henning (that shouldn’t be too difficult).
4. Willing to make changes during a game/season depending on developments.
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by rintintinsoldier on Jan 11, 2011 8:03 AM EST reply actions
Well i do have this monkey, that like's to watch the "miami dolphin's" play on sunday's with me. But not to sure just any one could play OC, just saying!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
I know its risky business when an Owener tells his head coach what kind of offense he wants to be run but...
Its almost like Ross reads the Phinsider. He addressed actually running an offense to score rather than to keep it close and then he goes on to say that he wants a hurry up offense? A la peyton manning?
I am sure that a lot of people on this site would agree with what Ross is calling for but there is still one major road block. Chad Henne.
Chad Henne has become the punchline of most NFL jokes. Living in NY I am not even allowed to come outside of my house until someone asks me how many wins the Dolphins had at home this year. We do remember that Chad Henne got benched for Chad Pennington this year, right? Can anyone actually see Chad Henne running an aggresive offense and controlling the line of scrimmage and keeping the defense on its heels? I certainly can not picture it. I just can’t. I think of him lining up and standing there and maybe pointing to the sky once and then calling hike and handing the ball to Mark Ingram for a 1 yard gain (twice in a row). Then I see him throwing the ball to the Patriots linebacker NIKIVITCH. This is just what I see in my head though and I thought id share with you. Stephen Ross should be calling out Chad Henne or saying that the team will be exploring QB options in the off season. THEN he can comment about he offense. Chad Henne in reality really cannot run a spread, aggresive offense because he lacks the skills. He doesn’t have the O-line and the WRs and all around skill that he had at the University of Mich. Sorry, but you work with what you have. I know we don’t have Michael Vick but the Eagles offense line was absolute crap and the Eagles had a pretty successful season. Aaron Rodgers makes a TON of throws on the run and these types of things can help any offensive line.
So, Thanks Ross for the advice and I completely agree. An offense that plays to win rather than not to lose would be fantastic but it all starts from the QB. I think that I am ready to move on but then I am sure we will hear the ONE MORE YEAR argument. If it is ONE MORE YEAR than prepare for a yawner.
Disagree
It’s easy to dump on Henne after such a down year, but I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel. There are a few reasons why.
First, he’s shown the ability. When he took over for the injured Pennington in 2009 he showed flashes of the ability we’re looking for, and I believe already is second on the list of QBs in team history with 300 yard passing games. That’s part of why this season was so frustrating: we saw Henne do some good things already, and expected him to continue developing.
Second, he had some seriously lousy coaching. In my mind he was being asked to run an offensive scheme designed for Chad Pennington, which wasn’t a good fit. Particularly because it relies heavily on running the ball effectively. Not only could we not run the ball effectively, we really could not run the ball at all. Dan Henning and Tony Sparano were responsible for getting Henne to progress, and the comparison I have is that, if a math teacher spends an entire week unable to adequately teach his students multiplication and division, then those students are going to fail pretty epically if they’re suddenly asked to do algebra on Sunday.
Henne made a host of bad throws. Those throws are disconcerting. But I can’t tell if he’s making those throws because his coaches couldn’t teach him how to go make those throws, what happens if we bring in a staff that can? Spare me any “But he should just know how to do that himself.” If the players are supposed to just make plays because they happen to be football players, why bother hiring a coaching staff at all?
Bottom line for me is I think Henne could still recover, and I’m willing to give him that catch. But that also has a lot to do with the fact that I think this team has enough talent to win now, and rebooting at the quarterback position is a giant step away from that.
by patrick.m on Jan 11, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nicely said and well written.......agree
though i still hope we draft a qb……
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by MagicDolphin on Jan 11, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
i think its really easy to place blame on coaches at the pro sports level.
When you look at the most successful pro sports teams they have long tenured coaches and they are considered to be good coaches. Take a look at the players on those teams. The coach can’t go out on the field and execute and the coach can’t tell Chad Henne how to read a defense. They also can’t teach him how to move around in the pocket.
At the NFL level its a lot easier to get rid of coaches as if they were mice in a lab. When things go wrong, a coach is more apt to lose his job as a scapegoat. Blaming the coaching staff and the offensive scheme is easier then saying that Chad Henne doesn’t have NFL QB ability.
Bellicheck wouldn’t be the coach is his today without Tom Brady
Phil Jackson wouldn’t be so highly regarded if not for Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
Greg Poppovich wouldn’t be the coach he was today if not for Tim Duncan
To blame Chad Henne’s miserable season on the coaching staff, I feel, is a total cop out from actually maknig the QB who has complete control at the line of scrimage responsible for the Dolphins inability to score. You cannot blame the offensive coach ENTIRELY for the Dolphins lowly offense.
Also, to say that a coach teaches Henne how to make a throw really doesn’t make much sense to me at all. You want the coaching staff to start teaching Chad Henne arm angles? Helping him read a defense is one thing and actually reading it at the line is another.
If Chad Henne WAS NOT ALLOWED, to change plays at the line of scrimmage then I could say that yes, the coaching staff can be held responsible but do you really think that is the case? We have been watching the NFL become the game of the QB for years now and that QB is pretty much a coach on the field. No one else in the stadium can has the opportunity to read the defense like the QB. An offensive coordinator can only do so much and coach so much but when you peer over the line and you see a safety looking for what gap to blitz or if they are in zone coverage it is YOUR RESPONSIBILIY to audible, change routes or call a draw play.
I agree that rebooting at th QB position may take time to recover from but if you know that Chad Henne doesn’t have what it takes to win, why wait? I will say it again HE GOT PULLED FOR CHAD PENNINGTON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON. Do you think that if they believe Chad Henne was a franchise QB they would just pull him in the middle of the season?
Feel free to give the guy another chance but it can’t be a blank slate of go out there and mess up all you want. We can’t just wait another year for Chad Henne to prove his worth because then it will be too late and we will have to rebuild all over again.
A coach can't tell him how te read a D but he can teach him what to look for.
A coach can also teach how to move around in the pocket. Also, it’s part of their job to fix bad mechanics, that’s one of the reasons Pat White is such a stain on Henning and Lee. I don’t pin everything on the coaches, but if they don’t do those things I’m not sure what the hell they do all day long at practice, TC, OTS’s ect.
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No playoff wins in 10 years is unacceptable, what are we, the new age Lions?
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No playoff wins in 10 years is unacceptable, what are we, the new age Lions?
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by Ray Finkle, Isotoner Glove Spokesman on Jan 11, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Know you no how Mr. Gruden felt after winning the SB then lossing his QB 3 or 4 year's straight he drafted a QB but to no avail!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Henne failed,
and Thigpen showed a lot more balls and comfort in changing routes at the line. Enough with Henne, it’s Thigpen’s turn.
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oh god i hope not!!
really, i don’t think i could watch thigpen run for his life all season…we might as well sign jay fielder….
I don't understand the Thigpen hate.
The kid has talent.
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Ross reading the phinsider crossed my mind too.
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by fin4three5yrs on Jan 11, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Personally I blame Henne's regression on his coaches.
The QB coach should’ve been teaching him how to read defenses and adjust plays, not how to follow orders. Whoever they bring in will get the chance to evaluate Henne and Thigpen and determine who they’re going to work best with (or if we draft, FA someone of course). I still predict you see Henne winning over Thigpen though.
by metalhead86 on Jan 11, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if it's that realistic to expect too much next season.
Getting the ground game going again is probably the best and most likely way to go, maybe that will open up some more big plays, and Henne could run such an offense, but as far as we’ve seen he is limited, and a Marino style offense just isn’t on the cards.
I agree
I think we’ll have a similar improvement in the offense next season like we had with the defense this past season. Hopefully we’ll get into the playoffs. Then one more year of improvements. But realistically, I think it’s 2 seasons away from Superbowl contender.
I am ever optimistic,
and think we can do well, and that change can come in a number of ways.
I just can’t see us being that explosive on offense next season, perhaps successful, but not explosive.
I don't see anyone exciting on this list
As far as QB coach, any shot we can talk Pennington into coaching next year? Can’t see him as an OC but he should make a great coach and this would be a start.
i agree with both points.....although i think pennington may be a long shot
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by MagicDolphin on Jan 11, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Pennington has previously said that he wanted to coach at the HS level.
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he said kids, so that may be pop warner.
or do something like LN21.
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I have never been this depressed as a Dulphins fan
I believe this team is at an all time low!
We have an owner who has no common sense about running a football team and that is the best of the issues. His QB is pathetic and incompetent, his coach is dull and runs a dull offense. Yet he wants an open offense.
He runs around trying to hire a new coach while his present coach is under contract. Who would want to take a job under those circumstances?? I understand you often don’t throw out the old water until you have new water. But that doesn’t apply to football coaches!!
After that he rewards the coach by extending the contract. It smells a lot like “I messed up, so here is my payoff for you to forget what happened” Kind of like buying your wife jewelry after you are caught cheating. Noone can tell me Sporano EARNED this extension!! IMHO, he has shown me nothing to want to keep him as coach.After a great first year, things have deteriorated. Under closer look, the team did well his first year as coach because 1. easy scheduale, 2. CP10 fell into the phins lap and 3. The WILDCAT. Yet he has gotten an extension.
It is very hard to be optomistic about 2011. Unless there is some kind of miracle transformation, I am expecting no better than a 5-11 season. The team has a first round pick and no second. The QB is pathetic and the 2 RB’s are free agents. There is no Offensive Coordination or QB coach. It is hard to feel confident under these conditions. Well, maybe, the team can get the top draft pick, get Andrew Luck and then the future will be brighter!!!!
Wait Now, Wait Now....
This is an all-time low, as opposed to the 1-15 season? Come on…
Had we met expectations and beat the weaker teams at home, Ross will not have to evenRo
factor in the equation. I see an opportunity for them the right the ship, but that OC that we get need to have enough credence to help Sparano in the time management department, as well as injecting big plays into our offense.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Jan 11, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
'Phins phor Liphe!
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Thigpen In '11!
by joel311 on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't that Spence's girlfriend on King of Queens?
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by madcitydave on Jan 11, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Andrew Luck is staying in school for another year.
He announced it last week.
He was talking about the following year
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by rintintinsoldier on Jan 12, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'm actually hearing that
McDaniels might be headed to the Rams. The Rams OC is interviewing for the Cleveland HC job and LaConfora is saying that he is a heavy favorite there, and if he takes it, McDaniels might jump on the Rams OC job. The thought behind it is that he is trying to rebuild his image and going to a weaker division and lower media expectations might make it easier for him to rebound.
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by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
no way
he pissed off and then traded Marshall away
Not to mention completely driving Nolan away; I cant imagine Nolan would be willing to work with him
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 11, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
lol
well said lefty
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Rather have gruden!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
It Will Be Difficult
….to find a quality, ‘A’-list OC who would be willing to come to Miami. The recent ownership fiasco, the GM’s lack of any kind of tact or trustworthiness, and a HC who clearly has lost the confidence of all of the above (including 50% of the fanbase) will tend to keep any sane, quality OC candidate as far away from South Florida as possible. Ross has pronounced the offensive style he wants (and the fans demand), personnel be damned. About the only OC we can expect will be a desperate candidate who, for whatever reason, feels Miami is better than his current posting. The reasons may include, but are not limited to, impending investigations, recruiting violations, and the like. Of course, another type of candidate would be a risk-taker, one who is not on the run, but perhaps is so unnoticed and unknown, he feels he has nothing to lose, and everything to gain by getting into a high risk situation. A candidate who likely will be canned at the end of his first year, but with a small glimmer of hope for success. A candidate who, if he is successful, will end up the HC in three years or less. The next few days or weeks will be interesting, to say the least. Hopefully, the OC candidate will ultimately be successful, despite the handicaps he will be saddled with initially. Perhaps such a risk-taker is just what this franchise needs.
I don't have a problem with it...
We have an owner who is new, willing to spend money to make our team better, and he understands what he wants to see in Miami and is going to try and make that happen. I feel bad for Sparano but everything coming out of Miami is that they respect their coach and are behind him. Get a new OC that fits what our Owner wants, lets have some fireworks on the field. I’m getting excited already!
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I disagree
I would think any competent OC would love to follow what was just kicked to the curb because most ppl think we’re a total disaster when in reality we’re a very easy fix so he will be seen as an Offensive guru.
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you are right!
The OC candidates interviewed today (Daboll, Palmer) are not very inspiring, and I certainly question their competancy. Last in the league on two key offensive benchmarks does NOT inspire confidence. I would rather they hire a new, never before used candidate rather than a retread with limited prior success as an OC. I must disagree with your opionion we are an ‘easy fix’. Sorry, but we have too many holes to fill (QB, RB, OG, WR) in the skill positions. Add to that a likely abbreviated offseason and preseason, and a 6-10 record is likely. May I borrow your rose colored glasses? I need ’em :)
Up next for the Dolphins
another decade of insignificance!
by ADRIELSDAD on Jan 11, 2011 9:11 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
^^^Not^^^
Don’t no u, “not sure” i want to chow!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hardy har har!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Who is our competition?
What other teams do we know are looking for a new OC? I assume teams with new HC are unless they have someone really good already there. Other teams towards the bottom of the league in offense are probably looking as well.
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Well, I don't know for sure but
I believe Minnesota is looking for a OC, and there is the chance that teams with new coaches (San Fran, Carolina, Cleveland, etc) might be in the hunt. New coaches usually like to pick their own staff. Also if any of these new coaches are current OCs, that will make more openings. Like the Rams OC is a candidate for the Cleveland HC job, so if he gets it, then St. Louis will be in the hunt for an OC.
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by Chupathingy on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Way back in the early day's the AFC, was strickly a "passing leauge" Then Shula came to the dophins brought his brand of the passing leauge with him with the like's of warfield but Csonka carried the rock!
Lol; if you look at the leauge you will see Team’s such as chicago with one of the most creative mind’s as all will atest to (the greatest show on turf) with the Ram"s wish he was available!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry all you haters, but Ross gets it.
“This isn’t the north, where you want to just take it 4 yards and a cloud of dust,” Ross added. “I think I look for a different brand. Seeing the Dolphins, how fans want to see them, how we win, we’re going downfield, the days of Dan Marino, the days we all want to go back to.”
He is the perfect owner for us.
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Thigpen In '11!
by joel311 on Jan 11, 2011 9:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i second that notion
Just one mans opinion...
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by MagicDolphin on Jan 11, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
+2, 311
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Jan 11, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd :P
'Phins phor Liphe!
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Thigpen In '11!
i would rather 'go back' to the griese era when we won super bowls.
ross should have sent an invisible man to stanford first to set the deal, then followed with a high profile visit and signing, or not.
anyway, he’s new. i hope he learns.
About time we win at home. Work the problem.
I disagree
I think as an owner- unless you are also the GM like Jerry Jones- you leave statements like that to your football guys. While these comments sound great, Ross doesn’t really know how exactly to make any of that happen- it’s up to the guys running the football operations. Quite frankly I have heard enough statements out of Ross for the time being.
That said, I think I may be going to Best Buy today to put more money in his pocket… so I guess he wins…
by NumberSeven on Jan 11, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
This x 1,000,000
he should STFU, he clearly doesn’t know the first thing about football, leave football to the football guys, he sounds like an unrealistic fan, the days of Marino are GONE, that is NOT looking forward that is looking backward.
Lets not forget he said Henne was going to be BETTER than Dan and that we were going to the SB, I don’t know if I’ve ever heard Snyder of Davis say anything that stupid.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Snyder or Davis
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Agree the statement was stupid
(isn’t it supposed to be 3 yds and a cloud of dust anyway???)
but i am VERY GLAD that he was very direct with Sparano about ending this “play-not-to-lose” offensive philosophy. I mean, sure a lot will depend on the O-Coord, but supposed we get a good coordinator and Sparano is inclined to limit him to playing for fist pumps? ;^)
It needed to be said straight out, IMO, and personally I am glad he said it. There is no way that Sparano can say he misunderstood the expectations.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
I agree about the play not to lose thing,
but he should not be saying it in public, anything he has to say to the coach should be done behind closed doors, that is the hallmark of bad owners, being heard at all.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
He understands what the fans want and he is building his organization in that fashion.
How in the hell does that show he doesn’t know football? Seems like he knows business and is making a point to HIRE PEOPLE who know how to implement what he is demanding of his franchise.
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Thigpen In '11!
He understands what the fans want and he is building his organization in that fashion.
He shouldn’t be doing what the fans want, are you freakin kidding, lol, that right there tells you he doesn’t know the first thing about football.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
From an entertainment perspective,
he most certainly should. He sure as hell isn’t going to sell tickets to an apathetic crowd. If the fans want a pass first style of offense, it’s up to him to find the right pieces to make it happen, and then the seats will be packed.
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Thigpen In '11!
whatever
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
whatever indeed
An owner should say something like “I’m going to help put together a staff that will make this team something for these fans to be proud of,” rather than get into offense philosophies and stuff he doesn’t know much more about than the average fan.
Bingo
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking MARTZ!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
That would be awesome, if he wants to work for Ross and Ireland.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but only if you pick the OLine
because we will need a good one :)
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of OLine
Who do you like this year?
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
You sell tickets by winning
not by catering to fans. Good grief, that’s the whole problem with the celebrity minority owners thing. They are just as clueless and clearly Ross is trying to turn the Dolphins into an NBA Lakers type team. What a joke.
We can’t morph back into Marino II — we are the exact opposite of those teams right now, which had no defense and no running game. We have a defense and part of winning games when you have a stout defense is to keep that defense fresh by having an offense that can take the ball down the field and chew up clock and score at least 20 points a game. If we try to be like the days of Marino, it will be an EPIC FAIL!
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 12, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
And here's me thinking this was common knowledge, lol
guess not.
Well said.
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by uncle finster on Jan 12, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Think maybe the additions of BM and Dansby had to get approval thru Ross?
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
LMAO on that thought alone!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
He's a very wealthy and knowledgable fan
and that makes for an awesome owner IMO.
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
New OC
At least the fins will have someone new calling the plays. Not that it will amount to a hill of crap without a real quarterback. The best move the fins could make right now is to trade Marshall for a high enough draft pick top get a top rated QB prospect. That would also free up enough money to sign a good QB. Of course , the fins will probably not do that and draft another defensive lineman. Second option is to go after Cobb or Vick, whichever the Eagles release, or maybe get the Denver QB and still draft a good young QB.
You should go ahead and forget Kolb or Vick,
the Eagles won’t release either of them and will demand a lot in trade for either one. We won’t get either of them.
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by Chupathingy on Jan 11, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
There is no way in hell we trade Brandon Marshall after our Owner said he wants
a pass-happy offense. And thank God for that. Fans on this site spent enough years bitching about a #1.
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Right
Then we get one, he has one good year in a bad offense, and everyone is ready to move on. Why? Because he got called for two dumb penalties? Or because he said what everyone was thinking once or twice? Come on.
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Seriously.
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Marshall
Marshall has the potiential to be great or a prima dona, but what good is he without a quarterback? I think he is too “Me oriented”. He blows off what the coach says and doesn’t have enough sense to keep from making stupid penalities. Until we get a good quarterback we will suck. It’s as simple as that. I hope we draft a high rated quarterback. We need salary cap space for that. It’s not that I think Marshall couldn’t be a great player. But he never will be if we don’t get a quarterback. We could also draft a receiver to replace Marshall.
by straighttalk on Jan 11, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Our Need's might be all met if our year wer to Trade out of the first rd. intirely. I've said this before.......
We trade with Carolina the #15 pick, for Carolina’s #1 pick next year, there #2 & #4 this year. Next year we take our #1 & Carolina’s #1, move up take the QB Luck. As all were ready to trade the hole draft this year for said QB. Now if we do this it’s like we are gaining a late 1st rd. pick & a late 3rd. pick but next year will pay off in spade’s!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not a bad idea at all.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Carolina won't make that trade
In all likelihood, they could get the overall # 1 next year, and don’t be surprised if that happens. That would mean Luck would fall into their lap next year.
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 12, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
You dangle the #15 pick in an owner face, "let me put it this way" have you ever seen a snapper frenzy?
Stranger thing’s have happen, “for far less” on a consistant basis!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 12, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Jerry Richardson owns the Panthers
They were pathetic (just a tad worse than us on offense this year). He HAS to bring in a “Face of the franchise” and I would agree with that logic. This trade won’t happen. You can believe anything you want. They are in rebuilding mode and Andrew Luck only comes along every 10 years or so.
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 12, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Tell it like it is, they "dont even go offense" DaQuan Bower's!
Fisher is not even going O, as this is his last year. In Tennisee he want’s the extention, they keep dangeling in front of him like sum carrot in front of a donkey!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 12, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Leach as OC
Leach’s system would never work in the NFL. Although the though of Capt. Leach in South Beach is hilarious.
hilarious is a stretch...but i get a kick out of rhyming words too
Just one mans opinion...
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by MagicDolphin on Jan 11, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
QB Coach
CP10?? Is he ready to hang them up? He should be, and he’d be a hell of a coach.
As far as the OC goes, none of these guys really excite me… I would give Leach a shot I guess, what’s the absolute worst that can happen? If there’s another bad year this year, the Fins will most likely clean house anyway. So a one year experiment doesn’t seem to awful to me. Who knows if Leach is even interested though.
I think beefing up the interior of the OL will fix a lot of the problems this offense had last year… oh, and a new QB… maybe another RB in the draft… Superbowl or bust 2015!! Sigh…
THIS^^^^^^^^^ CP for QB Coach!
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OR, better yet, bring in 'THE MAN' Marino for QB Coach...
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Thats what I'm talking about
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Don't know
I am pretty sure that Henne will raise Marino’s blood pressure and you will see Marino screaming at him on the sidelines every game. IF Henne even makes it out of a preseason with a guy thats going to be pretty straight forward and say find another QB.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 11, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Marino has too much going on with his personal life
he is not going to be interested in the grind that is NFL coaching life
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 11, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Be serious
Marino makes 3-4 million a year for sitting on his ass and talking sports once or twice a week. You think he would give that up for a real job that pays less where he actually has to work for a living?
by straighttalk on Jan 11, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
CP10?? Is he ready to hang them up? He should be, and he’d be a hell of a coach.
If CP can’t take any more of a hit that put him on IR this past season he honestly needs to retire.
I wouldn’t mind CP as a QB I guess, but not OC. Let him put in some time before putting him in coordinator position. Besides I though we are trying to move away from the CP type offense.
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Who says CP-10 would be limited to running a CP oriented offense?
Wasn’t he able to throw bombs before his first injury?
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No not really
CP never really had a big arm
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Well hopefully he plays Madden lol
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He was able to throw a deep ball though.
He didn’t have a huge arm, but it was no where as weak as it was in 08.
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You gotta throw a deep ball to be a NFL QB
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Apart from the bombs comment I partially agree
but to put him as a coordinator seems too sudden. I don’t know if he would be limited to running a CP style offense as I would hope he knows his style of offense is for his skill set. But nevertheless, working as a QB coach for example under a good OC who could mentor him would be great.
Assuming he doesn’t want the pay cut and the extra work involved in that level of coaching.
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Just because CP can't throw deep doesn't mean he can't coach deep ball
One thing everyone said about CP was that he studied the game. That was the reason for his success and low interception ratio. His record was much better than his athletic abilities. All the more reason I see him making a quality coach.
No not as OC
Pennington is not ready for that. But he could slide right in as QB an really help whoever the the Fins have on their roster.
IF his shoulder heals
It seems CP10 may try one more attempt at playing again. Though if he doesn’t come back to playing I would love to have him somewhere on the coaching staff.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 11, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Truth be told
CP shouldn’t have come back last year. Some players just don’t know when to quit.
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Yeah
But I guess he thought he could go, he was making good throws in practice, made it through preseason pretty easily. I guess he thought he should be good. You would think this injury should end his career but he is determined to evaluate it after surgery and rehab. Hey it maybe be a foolish thing to do but I admire the guys effort.
by LordBishop34 on Jan 11, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
He is going to have a bum arm for the rest of his life
if he keeps coming back.
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matty,i have to disagree with you(this time) about Mike Leach as
the dolphins next OC?
Jeff Ireland/Tony Sparano has to pick someone with nfl experience…
Tony Sparano DO NOT have the TIME to wait on the development
of a OC on the next level…he could lose his job?
my personal favorite is Mike Martz/chicago bears, but regardless
of the OC, you have to have the right QB to implement the game
plan on the field.
Martz is a double edged sword
There is such a thing as being TOO aggressive, but with talent at QB and WR, his makes for an exciting offense. I think he is mis-utilizing Forte this season though.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 11, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
They have to get "creative", hahahaha
uh wildcat anyone? wildpat anyone?
They don’t have to get “creative”, they have to get it right.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
and creative
j/k =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 11, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
lolz
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I don't care if it's the most vanilla offense on the planet,.. if it works.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon Finster
Everyone knows we were all too predictable on offense. Opposing players were calling out our plays and WR routes before we even ran them.
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No kidding,
so you predicted the wildcat, you predicted going for it from our own 30, you predicted abandoning the running game in games it was working, you predicted PW coming in on 3rd downs in the 4th quarter with the game on the line?
Move over Nostrodomus.
Everyone knows we were all too predictable on offense. Opposing players were calling out our plays and WR routes before we even ran them.Thats just bad coaching, we would do the same things out of certain sets and alignments.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
You just hating
Hater -)
Lets talk about the other hundreds of plays we ran that you left out. What you brought up is Henning just being stupid, not the usual predictable plays that Ross wants us to change from.
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by Neo on Jan 11, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We were not 3 runs and a cloud of dust,
we did have a pass happy offense, Marshall and Bess broke a record held by Duper and Clayton for most catches by a pair of WRs.
No, we were not an old stodgy type of offense, au contraire mon frere, how many times was near about everybody here screaming after games, “why did we do that, why didn’t we run there”, or “why did we run in that spot, your never supposed to run in that spot”.
Yea, we were no where near predictable, except for the fact the you could predict that we would do something unpredictable, but it was always BAD unpredictable, THAT was the problem, not that we were predictable, weren’t you watching ;^J
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
We were not 3 runs and a cloud of dust, we did have a pass happy offense, Marshall and Bess broke a record held by Duper and Clayton for most catches by a pair of WRs.
This a good point, and even more reason for Ross to let guys who are watching game film to make the statements about the the type offense we bring in or don’t bring in.
Those records were broken
because the ball was heavily spread around in Marino’s days. Do you honestly believe that we passed as much this year as the year that Duper and Clayton previously set the record?
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Well, an easy way to find out I suppose
One way ot do it, look at the stats:
Marino had 564 passing attempts in 16 games with a 64%
Henne had 490 attempts in less than 15 games with a 61%
Henne was #12 in pass attempts in 2010 having missed a game.
Miami was #13 in the league in passing attempts (557) in 2010
Miami was #11 in the league in rushing attempts (445) in 2010
572 pass attempts and 484 rush attempts
Some of these numbers are important others less so. But I thought I would throw them out there. And now I need to run.
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See, you should watch the games or something,
somehow get the information, so that you actually know what’s going on.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
WAKE UP
Ever wonder how many passes over 20 yds did Marino throw vs how many Henne threw?Nope,went right over your head!
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
I never said we were as good, far from it, we just passed as much,
reading comprehension, don’t underestimate it.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
You're not that dumb sheesh
It seems as though you’re saying that 500 passes is 500 passes but i’m saying that 500 passes from Marino going for the throat vs. 500 passes called by Henning who’d rather gain 5 yds and be 100% safe can’t be compared.
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 11, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I understand that and agree,
however that wasn’t the topic, it was our propensity to pass that was under debate,
Do you honestly believe that we passed as much this year as the year that Duper and Clayton previously set the record?by joel311 on Jan 11, 2011 2:02 PM ESTnot that we were successful, we weren’t, but we were a pass happy offense.
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by uncle finster on Jan 12, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
yeah my boy is wicked smart when he's got stat's in front of him!
Booyahh!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 12, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
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by uncle finster on Jan 12, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Duper and Clayotn still had 400 yards on BM and Bess when
BM and Bess were 10 catches above D&C
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No D coordinator would have ever predicted an end around to Cobbs
because who the hell runs it with such a slow, coming off of injury no less, RB. I agree, we definitely had an unpredictable element to our offense.
I need to go over some of our season again, but I think some of the oppositions claims of predictability were the result of Henne’s play. He was predictable in his tendencies.
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Yeah,
defenses knew we would do something retarded every game, they just didn’t know exactly what!
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This
There is a huge difference between being creative and just being stupid.
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by Neo on Jan 11, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats what I said and you disagreed,.......hmmm
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Actuially it's a pretty fine line.
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by PhrozenPhish on Jan 11, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
True.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
i agree, sort of....
how many times did we see BM, Bess, and Hartline on the field together? (before BH got Injured). not to many. with Marino we saw alot of 3-4-5 reciever sets. with henne, we got 1-2 recievers with 1-2 backs and a TE. imo b/c he held the ball to long and need the extra blocking. i think i saw 1 play this year with 4-5 recievers. give him more 3-4 WR sets with 1 back or 1 TE, and i think Henne will show his true talent.
im not as think as you drunk i am occifer.....
by frostyphinfan on Jan 11, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Sure I was watching
the fact the you could predict that we would do something unpredictable, but it was always BAD unpredictable, THAT was the problem, not that we were predictable, weren’t you watching ;^J
They knew what plays we would do to get yardage out of a formation. If we didn’t use one of those plays from that formation they knew we would do something stupid and it wouldn’t work.
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A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
lol, did you actually just say that.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
yup
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We don't have to look any farther than last year to see how pass happy TS can be,
because I feel like he was calling A LOT of the plays anyway and that Henning is a fall guy. jmo.
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Agree, Unc. Too much power for an OC to allowed to obliterate a team.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Jan 11, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
to be allowed, sorry.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Jan 11, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
It would sound that way.
I was hearing that Sparano was too loyal and didn’t want to throw under Henning under the bus in his final season. So Sparano didn’t want to take over playcalling duties.
Im not seeing the Mike Leach hype. I mean I know spread concepts are being used more in the nfl, but Leach’s offense wasn’t anything close to an nfl. Couldn’t be any further actually.
by vaneasy2338 on Jan 11, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, Leach is not realistic.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
It wont happen
Matty’s just pipe dreamin
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I think he knows that no NFL teams are calling, lol
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
True. Hes having and issue even getting a college to call at this point.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 12, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Steve, no matter who you bring in...This team still sucks with Chad Henne leading them!!
You can bring in any coach that you want to, but, the simple truth reamains…This team will go NOWHERE, if that MORON, LOSER, WANNABE, DICK HEAD, named CHAD {I’m so slow, that it takes me an hour and a half, to watch 60 Minutes, HENNE is still under center. This CHUMP makes me wish for the days of Jay Fiedler again. At least he got us into the playoffs. Chad Henne, not only should be traded or given away, but, all of his stats should be permanently erased from all of the Dolphins record books!! And to ALL and ANY of you MORONS who think that he has all of the tools…Well, you are a tool if this is what you think!! How many times this year [and last year] did he OVER THROW, UNDER THROW, and just plain THROW the GAME AWAY? TOO MANY times, this BUM has been responsible for the Dolphins having to throw out their original game plan and just start throwing the ball around because HE, CHAD [if brains were made of gasoline, he would be on empty if he had to run a go-cart around a fucking CHEERIO] HENNE had already put us behind by 14-21 points, because of his CONSTANT INTERCEPTIONS!!!
So stop with all of the B/S about what a new O/C will be able to do with this current team. There is NO OFFENSE, if Chad [I wasn’t hugged enough as a kid] Henne is still playing in South Florida. Hell, if Ross could bring back Bill Walsh from the dead, even he couldn’t get the Dolphins OFFENSIVE offense, in the top 20, with Chad [just please leave] Henne still pretending to lead this team.
Paul F. Johns
I have to agree (without all the colorful metaphors however...) Henne is not the answer.
In fact, regardless of who we draft (Can you all say Cam Newton??), I suspect Thigpen will win the starting job by the 1st preseason game..
Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....
Zman
Thigpen in '11!
'Phins phor Liphe!
Driver of the Make-John-Beck-HC Bandwagon! (Come on guys, give him a fair chancE!!!111!)
Thigpen In '11!
The only way Thigpen ever wins a starting job is if every other QB gets injured
Actually, that is not winning a job it is getting it by default, so I guess there is no way he ever wins a starting job (He might have a shot in the CFL though)
In Pat we Trust
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"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
lol...
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"The only difference between dissapointment and depression is your level of comittment."
Don't hold back now!! Tell us how you really feel!!!
I happen to agree with you.
Henne is a lost cause and has shown nothing to make me believe he will be a top 15 QB in this league!! or top 30 QB
Let's agree that Henne sucks
There are a number of good QBs coming out in the draft. For heaven’s sake, PLEASE fins have enough sense to draft one. I’m not sure about Newton. These running QBs usually do great until they get hurt and then are never the same. Neuton hurt his back in the Championship game. Usually a bad back will ruin a player.
by straighttalk on Jan 11, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
How About BYU offensive coordinator Robert Anae???
A good “Pass Happy” OC, who just happened to resign on Dec 30th, to ’Pursue other opportunities…?
How about OC for the Miami Dolphins Mr. Anae???
Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....
Zman
Uncle Finster has it right...
Coaching, coaching, coaching…That’s how guys who were PRO BOWL players on other teams, come to Miami, and are just ordinary, at best!! And all year long, all we heard from Sparano were apologies for his teams play. A REAL HEAD COACH, would instead, hold his coordinators and assistant coaches ACCOUNTABLE for the teams play. And this teams play was ATROCIOUS, at best!! This only tells me that us Dolphins fans are in for 3 more years of mediocre teams, and 3 more years of wasting the talents of some of the best players at their positions. Tony Sparano should have been FIRED at 4:02 pm on Sunday, January 2, 2011!! But because Stevie has NO BALLS, NO BRAINS, and just MONEY, I see the Dolphins reeling in the bottom of the barrell, while other teams in the AFC EAST, continue to roll over the Dolphins in every phase of the game. Perhaps Stevie should take some of that money of his and invite Robert Craft and Bill Belechic on and ALL EXPENSES paid vacation with him. Then, he just might learn a little something about how to run an organization, and how to find the RIGHT COACH!!
Paul F. Johns
Be real
Odds are that Sparano will be gone after next year. Let’s face it. Nobody would have ever heard of him if it haddn’t been for Parcells—who quit on the team before the players did. Yes we have a dumbass coach. Our only hope is to draft a take-charge QB who can overcome crappy coaching.
by straighttalk on Jan 11, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
What about John Ramsdell?
SD’s QBs coach.
2009 NY Phin PhansFantasy League Champion
2009 Best Regular Season Record in NYPPL.
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
""It only ends once. Everything that comes before is just progress"
I was just about to type that in
I like Ramsdel for OC. And for QB couch…there’s a fellow who lives a few miles north of Miami by the name of Joe Namath.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
You forgot to put that in a sarcasm box...
'Phins phor Liphe!
Driver of the Make-John-Beck-HC Bandwagon! (Come on guys, give him a fair chancE!!!111!)
Thigpen In '11!
After reading on the comments on this post I can only conclude
that the Phins will be picking Andrew Luck w/the #1 pick next year. I know we were 7-9 but we could have easily been 11-5. Pitt, Det, Cle and Buf should all have been wins. A play here or there and we are knocking on playoffs door. The team is still very young and will improve just because the guys have one more year of knowledge and playing under their belts. If we can just improve the offense enough to get into the top 15 in scoring and maybe tweak the D a little at linebacker and safety we should have a potential playoff team.
Miami Dolphin fan since 1971. Still the only UNDEFEATED team EVER!
I say..
Leach for OC and Pennington for QB coach. What do you guys think?
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
I don't think anyone wants to take on an experiment
and that is what Leach is. I prefer Ramsdel, but Pennington is a nice thought. He has everything from film prep to ‘touch’. I like it!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
No and maybe.
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
No on Leach, yes to CP10
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallett bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Jan 11, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
No and No
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New QB Coach
There’s a guy who we knew is available, was a great QB in his heyday, and has 2 former backups who are playing in the 2nd round of the playoffs this weekend. Your new QB coach… Brett Favre?
I just threw up a LOT
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallett bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Jan 11, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
brett favre would sexually harass flipper
while his wife was at home wearing a pair of wrangler jeans and then he would throw a pick in the Championship game while his team was already in FG range with under a min to play.
Hell to the no!
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
As an Ole Miss fan (see avatar) as well as a Dolphins fan, I'm more interested in David Lee's move to Ole Miss.
It’s a good move for the Dolphins, I think, that he’s leaving. The Wildcat has lost its effectiveness, Henne really isn’t developing well despite having some talent, and he just generally doesn’t seem to have done a good job for the long-term. He’ll probably fit in a lot better in college at Ole Miss, though I’m not convinced he’s a good hire there either, but that’s a discussion for another board.
I don’t like the idea of Leach as offensive coordinator. His offenses are too gimmicky even at the college level, and it will just be that much more glaring in the NFL. He might do some good work for a year or two but like with the Wildcat it wouldn’t take long for teams to figure him out and shut him down and then you’re right back to square one in 2-3 years.
by Wild Rebel on Jan 11, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
^^^^^^^^agree^^^^^^^^^!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
^^^^^^^^agree^^^^^^^^^!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 11, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Sign Vince Young and hire Gus Malzahn as offensive coordinator...
Use a gimmick offense to generate excitement and to buy time to develop a raw developmental QB.
With all the nonsense going on at Auburn, they will eventually find themselves on probation (after the NCAA has collected all their BCS money), so Malzahn would be wise to jump ship before the crackdown comes.
Sign Vince Young and Hire Gus Malzahn for Offensive Coordinator: Unbalanced Option Attack: (Davone Bess under center)
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _TE JL [RI] RF JJ VC _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ BM
BH _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ DB _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _MM - - - - - - - > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ VY
FAIL
CEO and Founder of the Draft Ryan Mallett bandwagon.
by DolphinNation on Jan 11, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
This^
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jan 11, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Official leader of the "Draft Jake Locker Bandwagon"
Please, call me Bacon
footballisawesome.com
kind of hard to return to the Marino days
when Henne<Marino
the quality gap between these two players is palpable
CRAWWL MEAT!!
I would like to see one of these names
Jim Zorn
Bill Callahan
Maurice Carthon
Pete Carmicheal
Scott Linehan
Jeff McDanials
Tyrone Willingham
Dennis Green
Karl Dorrell
Bill Musgrave
inishe8 = initiate
I meant what I said. And I said what I meant. Phin fan faithful 100%
I swear it don't cost much, to pay attention to me; I tell it how it is then I tell it how it could be. (Andre 3000 - Outkast)
I am more disappointed....
at this point than I was when we went 1-15. At least then I got the No. 1 pick and thought we can only go up from here… Now we could still go down (we won some games last year) and we have more holes than at any time I can remember in the past.
I am also more disappointed than then.
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by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
One word
No
Official leader of the "Draft Jake Locker Bandwagon"
Please, call me Bacon
footballisawesome.com
hahaha
◊◊◊ Marshall/Bess>Moss/Welker ◊◊◊
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010 former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
by uncle finster on Jan 11, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that would make us unpredictable. Your right, I forgot we are supposed to be predictable.
You guys gotta start thinking outside the box if we are ever going to be anything again!geeez
Jimbo
The Fins
will either promote someone from within (Karl Dorrell) or grab an unknown assistant coach that just might have IT. See: Mike Smith, John Harbaugh. How about Tom Clements, the Green Bay QB coach? He came to Green Bay in 05 (same year a guy by the name of Aaron Rodgers arrived), helped groom him, and learned under Mike McCarthy (a pass-first offense). Get him for OC and let CP10 slide into QB coach. Add some speed, don’t blow up the team, and you have an offense!
Touchdown, Ronnie Brown Edition!
OFF COACH
ITS NICE TO BE MOVING ON TO OUR TRUE PROBLEMS, AND WE EVEN HAVE A FEW GOOD CHOICES.
There are a lot of candidates out there
but if it were me I would focus mainly on QB coaches from Philly,NE,NO,SD,Pitt,Indy,Balt. and Atl. or former D coaches who converted to O but as long as he applies pressure I don’t care if he was a member of the Grounds Crew this past season.
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jan 12, 2011 4:38 AM EST reply actions
leach is a genius....
i watched him while i was at tech and he could really do some damage in the NFL. His system is all about creating space. That was taught to Wes Welker and look how good he is at reading the D and creating.
"A job well done is better than a job well said."
by I bleed Red and Black on Jan 12, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions
Dolphins OC search
Mike Leach would be an awesome choice….one that I hadn’t even thought of!!!Maybe the Fish will take a cue from this and give the man a shot.We definitely need to be more unpredictable and Leach is as creative and as unconventional as any of the candidates out there.C’mon Miami get your heads out of your butts and lets get going in the right direction for a change. GO FISH!!!!
The Dolphins have had a serious concern in the refilling post of their coaching staff. Even though others occasions overshadowed the important activity, It is about time that the Miami Dolphins should take the opportunity and fill the vacancy.
Michael Jordan say "no" to Korean Beef
by nathan.poole87 on Jan 12, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions
our new OC
Ross should hire Brian Billick as the OC, that way when saprano doesn’t get it done he has his replacement already in place! Brian is a proven coach
by scubasteve54016 on Jan 13, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions
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