With the season opener only days away, the Miami Dolphins are making major changes
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 5:00 AM EDT
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PrintThere is an old saying... "Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't really out to get you." The same might apply to Chicken Little Syndrome (CLS) and the Miami Dolphins.... Just because you might have CLS, doesn't mean the sky ISN'T really falling.
Beginning with fiasco of the final preseason game last week, and continuing through today with the announcement that Bill Parcells will cede full operational control of the team, effective immediately, to Jeff Ireland, the Miami Dolphins have the look of a team in transition. Unfortunately, it is NOT the look of a team transitioning from preseason to the games that count. The Miami Dolphins look more like they are transitioning from a playoff team into a rebuilding team.
In just a week, the Miami Dolphins have seemed to fall apart. And with the first game only 5 days away, I am not sure they will have time to get it all put back together again.
Those of you who know me, know that I tend to be optimistic. If you look at a football team in the early part of the preseason, it is easy to look for the best case scenario of how the season will go, if the players and the plans work out pretty much as envisioned by the coaches.
But as the preseason wears on, the "possibilities" get whittled down into a "reality". Players get injured, rookies don't perform, roster cut downs happen, and before you know it you are faced with a 53 man roster of fact. The hope, of course, is that you end up with the best 53 players... not just the most talented, but the most consistent players who fit the plans for the offensive and defensive schemes the team will be running.
Injuries can throw the biggest monkey wrench into a team's plans. And the later an injury occurs in the preseason process, the bigger the monkey wrench thrown. Philip Merling was injured early on, so the team was able to focus on his rookie replacement and sign some free agent depth. Will Allen occurred a little later, but because he never actually made it back from the previous injury, the team had gone on without him, hoping he would return but not counting on it. But what if Jake Long never gets back to 100% this season? How would the team recover from losing their starting left tackle?
The second biggest thing that can throw a curve ball to a team's plans is when a young player who is counted on to be a producer does not develop at the rate the coaches hoped for/planned on. While Koa Misi and Jared Odrick seem to be doing okay in their roles so far, 2nd year starting cornerback Sean Smith has been benched. With Will Allen now out for the season, this position has suddenly gotten thin enough in depth that the Dolphins traded away sure handed wide receiver Greg Camarillo for a reserve CB. And second year man Chris Clemons, who is being counted on to fill the starting free safety spot is questionable. While I believe he will be fine, he has not shown anything in preseason to put Dolphins fans minds to rest, and erase the nightmares memories of Gibril Wilson from last season.
Change is sometimes good, but change for a football team is rarely good a week before the season starts. Let's take a quick look at some of the significant change that have happened very recently.
- David Martin cut - and then signed by Buffalo! You are kidding yourselves if you think the Bills aren't grilling him about Dolphins game plans/play books.
- Jake Long with an injured knee; Lyndon Murtha filling in. Murtha? Really? If Long is out, Vernon Carey will probably move back over to LT.
- Vontae Davis sitting out the last game with an undisclosed injury was seen limping after Monday's practice. Would anyone argue that he is NOT currently our best CB?
- Channing Crowder - undisclosed injury
- Sean Smith - starting CB - benched, in favor of (drum roll please...) Jason Allen???
- Joe Berger starring as "The Center"
- The D-line, a surprising strength of the team during preseason, lost Charles Grant and Marques Douglas to the final cut down. Weren't these guys playing pretty well? Is the team that confident in Jared Odrick as an every down DE?
And just for the record, I'll weigh in on the Bill Parcells debate. I have seen most of the arguments and it really boils down to two questions: "Why now?" and "How will it effect the team?"
Yes, making the announcement now makes about as much sense as any time, I suppose. Personally, I think it would have been better right after the draft, since he would still be around to "advise" Ireland on the second round of free agency and it would be less disruptive. But it WILL effect the team to some degree. It will throw just one more uncertainty in the mix for them to think about. Most of the free agents that ended up coming to Miami cited Bill Parcells as a part of the reason they had confidence in the building of the team, and from the looks of things at the moment, it certainly is not complete. So I understand the arguments on both sides, but I think it is ridiculous to think that it will not have some kind of impact on the players, announced just 5 days before the first game.
So why now? Again, how can anyone think that Parcells doesn't see the disarray the team is currently in? If he is as talented (and cunning) as people tend to give him credit for being, then don't you think he has thought this through 9 ways to Sunday? It's not a conspiracy theory, it's just common sense. We all know Parcells would be leaving - sooner rather than later - and if this season goes in the tank, he does not want to be obligated to hang around for another year (or two) to get it fixed. So by distancing himself now, he can avoid the fallout if things go south. But if things go well, he still gets the credit for the successful rebuilding. But don't think for one second that Parcells is not seeing the problems that have come up in the last few weeks and factored that risk into his decision to disassociate himself for the team.
Such a thing as "coincidence" may exist, but I suspect it is a much rarer happening than most people would assume.
I'm an optimist, but realistically this team just might have more question marks now than they did to start training camp. I would not be all too surprised to see the Fins drop this first game to Buffalo. And Bill Parcells probably wouldn't either, don't you think?
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Initial thought about Parcells
His name is still strongly attached to this team and the media was all over the fact that he is “stepping down”. If this team was headed down the same blase road that it went down last year, there’s no way Parcells leaves now. If this team were to tank this season, the finger would be pointed at him; and as much as I like him, Parcells’ has a big ego and I cant imagine he would let that happen.
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yeah, whats changinging
other than his job title? He never went on road games, almost all moves will at least be run by or bounced off parcells by Ireland anyway.
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by sonnycrockett on Sep 8, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
CLS at its finest
Remember all reports that cite this move was already planned. Even with his resignation, Parcells was still in his office that day breaking down game film. He has previously talked personnel matters over with Ireland, but has at times insisted Ireland make the final decision. As previously said, this is the slowest time of the year for the NFL personnel department and that is why it makes good sense to do it now. Would you rather have him step aside at the end of the year in February when the team is planning for free agency, the combine, and the NFL draft?
Take a look at your other points.
David Martin: I didn’t think he was a player locked to make the team. He was in Miami for what? A week? How much could he learn in that amount of time where he could really give Buffalo an upperhand on Sunday. In the words of ESPN’s Sterling Sharpe…. Come on man!
Jake Long: Seriously? You’re wondering what if he doesn’t recover? What if Peyton Manning doesn’t truly recover from his offseason surgery? Really, that shouldn’t be a concern. He may be hobbled this Sunday, but he wouldn’t have been warming up and stretching with the team if he was seriously hurt. If he doesn’t start practicing by Thursday, then he might miss Sunday.
Vontae Davis: Yes, it’s a shame he was limping after practice, but the good thing is he practiced. If you’re practicing on Monday, you’ll probably play on Sunday. You can make a big deal if a player is a little banged up if you’d like, but you’ll be doing it every week with a bunch of players. It’s the nature of the game that you’re going to be banged up. He’ll probably take a shot and be out on the field. I’d love it if everyone felt 100% on Sundays, but it’s just not going to happen. We’re not the only team dealing with this.
Channing Crowder: A little more of a mystery, but Miami does have Tim Dobbins for a reason. Like Long, if he doesn’t start practicing by Thursday, then he may miss the game.
Sean Smith: A shame he has struggled, but the coaching staff has really liked Jason Allen a lot. Sparano mentioned he didn’t get what all the fuss is about because Allen has stepped up and people are worrying because we now have more good CBs than expected. I don’t completely buy that and it is a shame. I do think Smith will be back as the starting CB soon enough.
Joe Berger: Why a concern? He played well at Center last year and beat out Grove fair and square this offseason. If he struggles, our incumbent (Grove) will start in his place. Are we really going to list every replacement player as a question mark? We could do the same with Dansby and Marshall if you’d like.
The DL: The starters are the same. I too was surprised by the release of Douglas and Grant, but one or both may eventually come back. Luckily, you’re worrying about the loss of backups.
by Finhead83 on Sep 8, 2010 5:24 AM EDT reply actions 11 recs
I agree with everything you said.
There is no reason to be worried unless we start 0-3 or 0-4. But we won’t. On Sunday, the clouds will part and we will be just fine.
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But people will still freak out and think that the season is completely over
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nice response.
let me just suggest that instead of looking at each thing individually, you take a look at them all together. I suspect there is another syndrome circulating among the faithful, and it’s symptoms are the opposite of CLS.
Smith/Davis/W. Allen – not good news for the secondary.
J. Long/Berger/The entire O-line – not settled and had, what, 1 game together? The Oline is the foundation of the Offense and LT and C are the two most critical positions.
Jake Long IS injured, and he is one tough SOB, so you can bet he’s not playing it up.
I was not suggesting that Long WOULD be out for the season. In that paragraph I was only talking about how it is much more difficult for the team to deal with last minute injuries.
But below that when I am talking specifically about Long, they ARE talking about moving Carey to LT, and we all know how THAT worked out.
I may have CLS, but you are going to get sand in your mouth from burying your head if you think this might not be a big deal.
Even if Long does play this week, he is more at risk by playing with an injury, and he is probably the most irreplaceable member of the team.
Crowder – eh. not really concerned there.
And for the record, you ask me when i would rather have had BP make the announcement, but i already answered that question above – after the draft, during the doldrums of FA part deux. Much better than 5 days before the first game when you are trying to calm the team down and get everyone focused.
So now, tell me again how these are NOT going to effect the team 5 days before the opener?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Prior to the start of the season or in game weak preparation, the goal of the FO and coaching staff is to limit the number of distractions for the team.
As an organization or coach, you want your players focused solely on the task at hand, which is this weeks opponent. Parcells anouncement is one of those distractions that should be avoided. It is something else that the coaching staff and players are going to get questions about that don’t help in preparation for the Bills.
I don’t care about Parcells title or roll in the organization moving forward. I care about the Phins winning football games. This anouncement is a distraction to that and I don’t know how anyone can dispute that statement.
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The distraction
Nothing has changed around the Dolphins complex. Parcells is still there and is still reviewing film in his office. He will also still be present on the field. The only ones being distracted by this are the fans.
Coaches are going to be asked if Parcells is leaving for another team. Players will be asked the same thing.
Hell they were talking about that on ESPN last night on The Insiders program. Those are distractions to the task at hand. If Parcells and the organization doesn’t release the announcement, no one is talking about it. The media isn’t asking those questions because there would be no basis for them. But the announcement leaves all of that on the table.
I make you a gentlemen’s bet. I bet that Sparano will be asked about the Parcells situation at today’s press conference.
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The Players
First, the players don’t speak with the media during the week. They won’t have to answer that until after the game on Sunday when they do their postgame interviews. ESPN can debate it all they want, but Parcells still has a job with Miami, which means he won’t be leaving for another team. Teams are also not looking for a new organizational head in September. If Parcells leaves Miami, it will be after the season.
I won’t be surprised if Sparano is asked the question during the press conference. What I would bet though is that you won’t be surprised by the response.
I think Henne (or some designated player) has to speak to the press during the week. Isn't that a league rule?
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I think I am right about the required press conference for a player during game week.
The Chicago Sports Radio station where I live carries the opponent’s press conference live every week. The head coach and a player are on the conference call from that weeks Bear’s opponent. I think that is a league wide rule.
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Can you name one?
Can you name at any point a few days prior to the game that a Dolphins player spoke publicly to the media?
All I am saying is I find it hard to believe that it only happens in Chicago.
Each week there is a media conference call between Lovie Smith and a player (usually Jay Cutler). There is also a media conference call with the Bear’s opponent and a player from that team. I have listened to them live for at least the last 3 or 4 years. I can’t imagine that other NFL markets don’t do the same thing.
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Depends on the front office
Parcells and Sparano are very tight lipped individuals. Remember, they don’t like their players speaking to the media. Not every staff feels the same way.
Actually, I think Ct might be right
I believe players have to be available twice a week if the media wishes to interview them. I remember Ricky complaining about it, last year, and the media collectively threatened to tattle on him if he didn’t make himself available. Of course, a press conference merely involves getting on the stage, then walking off. You don’t have to say anything.
Player Interviews
I know players are obligated to speak to the media after the game, but I’m not aware of any such requirement during the week. We’ll find out if none of the players show speak during this week.
yes they do have to be
available to the media on press days…. infact the out of town press gets access to some players also… i’m a little hazy on this one, but i think they get either the QB or another player they designate…
granted the players just have to attend – there is no requirement that they answer the questions or for that matter answer the questions.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
All this fails to bring up one prespective
Bill os like what,70-80 years old. He has ate breathed slept football for 20+ years,had known health issues in the past,and is pretty much in the best city to retire in. shut up about him wanting abandon ship in case we flopped this year,i aint buying it,or he wouldnt have took on the operation of a 1-15 project to begin with. Again,this is the best the team has looked in years,what makes you think he didnt step down because the team from his perspective looks ready,and he thinks ireland is the right man to fill his shoes?
Bottom line is this,while I wish we had a better option than henning at OC,Nolan is a far more capable coach than pasquani,our wide recievers coach is creative,our linebackers coach is one of the best in the biz,special teams just got a bit of help,we should see them improve,our kicker punter and ls are the best in the biz,our BACKUP qb could start on most teams,our backups backup has starting experience,looks like we found our starting nose tackle,we have the beast,and last but not least,we have good leadership from the middle linebackers spot,dansby is the best this spots seen since zach thomas.
Keep in mind,im not burying my head in the sand,im just thinking our positives outweigh our negatives,oh and one more,seems the light has finally come on for solai,the end…
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 8, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i agree with everything you just typed.
i also think the team is in overall better shape that i can remember in a long time.
my overall point (that seems to be very difficult for some people to acknowledge) is that, in my experience, being this unsettled in your starters days before the first game is a point of concern.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand your point of concern
Lefty, I really do. But I still think that the main point in this comment (“the team is in overall better shape that i can remember in a long time”) should be the one that trumps what I believe to be a very minor concern over BP’s stepping aside.
And that’s just it—he’s stepping aside. He’s not leaving. He’s probably going to be just as visible as he was. He never was as visible as somebody like Mike Holmgren (coach or “czar”) was or is currently, and I think the title PoFO made him a more visible and important person in everybody’s mind than he truly was. I think he portrays the exact same role now as a Consultant; the only difference being a title and slight change in who has the “final” say.
All in all, yeah, I agree that the timing and announcement are distracting and concerning. The move itself means nothing, though, and shouldn’t be causing such an overwhelming overreaction.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
dude... again... I am not concerned about BP
again… =)
it is just a footnote
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I know
Just obliged to give you a hard time for drinking my half-full glass.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 8, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
lol lol
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying that you're overreacting.
But CLS—et tu, broseph?
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
take the bet, 83
i dare you
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
what's the wager?
something to do with pink panties or shaved heads?
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
well said CT
i don’t care about it either, in the big scheme of things. but it is silly to say that it will have zero effect.
i don’t think it is that big a deal honesty, but it is just one more thing that when taken all together add up to a more difficult week before the opener.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would've thunk our players and staff
were such weak-minded pussys.
People always talk about how if questions surrounding a player or the team effect them negatively they weren’t made for the pro game to begin with but dealing with questions they knew the answer to years ago will distract them now?..doesn’t make sense.
by haildanhenningnow on Sep 8, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i honestly don't think this is a big issue
but the team is certainly not settled right now regardless of this announcement, is it
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of questions LCFF for sure but if I just wait they will all be answered shortly
It’s kinda like them finding something 7mm big in one of my Mothers lungs last week,and while it could many things some not bad,some bad and some horrible but i’m not worried because we haven’t crossed that bridge yet but I am quite concerned and like this teams situations I will take a wait and see approach.
by haildanhenningnow on Sep 8, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i am sorry to hear that brutha
you and she have my prayers
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope everything is OK with your Mom. Thoughts and Prayers go out to you and your loved ones.
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Will Allen was a blow, but every team has and will continue to deal with them.
The OL did have two games together, but they swapped players left and right last preseason. Everything turned out fine.
Jake Long is hurt, but I’m sure this won’t be the first Sunday where he’s playing hurt. Miami talked about Carey playing LT if Long was ever injured, but that doesn’t mean it is happening this Sunday.
For Parcells, there is still plenty of work to be done after the draft. Teams are still signing veterans and undrafted free agents and still evaluating their talent. While resigning in April may allow some of the CLS syndrome to wear off as the preseason goes on and OTAs and Training Camp starts, it’s still a much busier time of the year for a personnel man than early September is.
So how do these affect Miami? Will Allen does obviously. Sean Smith impacts Miami as long if Jason Allen doesn’t play well. Long will have little, if any effect. Douglas and Grant will have little effect. I’d expect the loss of Douglas and Grant to impact Miami further into the season as players get worn down rather than on opening day, but of course that would be if nobody else adequately fills the void by that time. Parcells? Doesn’t effect the team at all.
We all have watched Jason Allen for years
i like the kid, and many people forget that he mostly shut down Brandon Marshall two years ago in Denver.
But we went through the WHOLE PRESEASON with smith as the starter. What’s wrong with that picture?
Douglas and Grant will effect the team by reducing the strength of the strongest unit all through preseason. So where I was looking at Nolan having a few more options, we are going “all-in” on Odrick. If we win the bet, awesome. But there is some degree of risk there.
The line will have Buffalo to try and put it all together. But as of now, they don’t have it all together. I expected improvement in the run game, but it has so far been awful. Changing players makes the process take longer. If Long is not 100%, it will have a major impact on the overall line play.
I don’t think the Parcells thing is a big deal. i also don’t agree that it has zero effect. If the team was seasoned and solid, i would agree.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that line-out was unintended =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
In Allen's defense
I believe hdid start in the 3rd preseason game for Smith and got the start for Davis in the 4th game.
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but that 3rd game start was for Smith breaking team rules
not because he earned it. i think that matters.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Smith needs to develop some mental toughness. He seems soft. He tends to let bad plays get in his head and everyone has talked about how you have to fuss at him “differently”. He talked a big game this offseason and then Marshall came in and abused him. Consequently, his confidence was shot. Marshall lit up Vontae as well, but Vontae got better from it. Smih needs to mature and get tougher mentally if he wants to remain a starting NFL CB.
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in one of my posts earlier this PS
i mentioned my concern that Smith might lose confidence because of Marshall pushing him around. I agree that I worry he lacks mental toughness.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
We also went all of last preseason with Will Allen as the starter. Same with Pennington. Different situations being that Miami has Smith available. Jason Allen will just have to step up or he will lose his job back to Sean Smith. It’s just what NFL players have to do. Yes, I would’ve preferred Sean Smith to perform well in preseason and continue to be the #2 CB, but this is the situation we are in.
As for Odrick, the Dolphins already said they may resign Douglas if they need him. If they feel the DL is a concern, they’ll address it I’m sure. I won’t be surprised to see one of them back with Miami regardless how Odrick is doing. We also went all in with first time DEs Langford, Merling, and Starks. We walked out pretty well.
As for the OL, yes I too would’ve preferred to see a better performance. Like last year, the OL shifted a lot in training camp and preseason as well. We didn’t look too hot in the preseason either. I still have faith the unit will do ok.
I’m not saying we don’t have any concerns, but I still have confidence this can still be a great team. Our season is not going in the wrong direction.
now yer talkin...
I’m not saying we don’t have any concerns, but I still have confidence this can still be a great team. Our season is not going in the wrong direction.
I am also not sayin the season is over, but two and a half weeks ago i was looking at a fairly solid secondary, with Clemons being the biggest question mark. Clemons is still a question mark, but now so it CB.
I was also concerned about the O-line flux over the course of preseason. The have had trouble picking up blitzes and opening holes in the run game. I fully expected this to be ironed out by the 3rd PS game so the starters could get to work on the details. But that didn’t happen and now we have another potential disruption.
Do i believe they will get it together? Absolutely! The only question mark in my mind is “how long will it take?”
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW. i sorta think both Douglas and Grant will be snatched by another team pretty quick
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
lefty don't forget my man J Allen
shut down L Evans there after… it wasn’t until they left him one on one with one R Moss for an entire game that they pulled him… and lets not forget that J Allen did start 2 of the preseason games himself and played as if he was the 2nd best corner on the team… So for that one… i’ll go with sparano and look at it as a good thing… maybe J Allen has finally settled into his position after 4 years of being yo-yo’ed around.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
like i said, i like the kid and always thought he had potential
it has been my contention that Saban, and then CamMaroon ruined him by moving him around and destrying his confidence. But he has always had unquestioned talent.
i hope what you say is true. I think we know pretty much what we have in Allan. I am more concerned about the demotion of Smith and what that says about him.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
^this
its presaeason they havent played a down. cmon guys movement of backups and non starters means nothing int he first game. and sean smith he got burned so now theyre trying to light afire under his a## no bad pun intended.
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scares the hell out of me right now… I mean it was all good to give him a prove it contract when we had tons of depth along the line, but now, when we dumped a lot of the depth for younger projects….
not me wish he was here sooner , last year!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 8, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
LCFF
you might wanna check yourself into some insittution before you go insane. Whats that? To late? You sound like the sky is falling and the titanic is going down questioning every single move they made. Are you kiddin me?
But what if Jake Long never gets back to 100% this season?
You cannot be serious. Long will be fine. My money is that he won’t miss a game.
Sean Smith has been benched.
So all of a sudden Sean forgot how to play? What about Allen is just playing better? I’m not ready to call Sean a bust quite yet.
Dolphins traded away sure handed wide receiver Greg Camarillo for a reserve CB.
We are really deep at WR, that was a good move to get something for him.
David Martin cut – and then signed by Buffalo! You are kidding yourselves if you think the Bills aren’t grilling him about Dolphins game plans/play books.
OMG thats never happened before, a division rival signs a player that we cut. Whatever will we do?!? Quick Tony, implement a entire new offense.
Vontae Davis sitting out the last game with an undisclosed injury was seen limping after Monday’s practice
While Vonte might be our best CB, I don’t think he is going on IR or anything.
Joe Berger starring as “The Center”
If the man won the job, he won the job. Stop hating.
So why now? Again, how can anyone think that Parcells doesn’t see the disarray the team is currently in? If he is as talented (and cunning) as people tend to give him credit for being, then don’t you think he has thought this through 9 ways to Sunday?
I think Parcells is a little closer to the team than we are. Maybe he knows that we aren’t in such disarray as panic boy here thinks we are.
Parcells quit because this is the best time to do it. I posted a fanshot about a article I found that makes complete sense about this. It isn’t like Parcells suddenly left the Dolphins like a parent leaving a 2 yr old at the store. The Fins are big boys. I’m sure they won’t cumble under the thought of Parcells taking a “consultant” role with us. Ya know, kinda sorta, but not really, what he has been doing all along.
The sky is not falling people. You are not on the Titanic. Don’t follow LCFF to the nut house driving yourself crazy about every little thing that you could possibly question about this team. I, for one, would like to have my Miami Dolphins team going into Sunday’s game than Buffalo’s team.
Ronnie is back, along with the Wildcat. Henne and our new beast, Brandon Marshall are ready to go. And I’m sure Mike Nolan is gonna have some things for our new attcking hybird defense.
Go Fins!
PS LCFF, I like ya dude, but you have lost it.-) Wait, did I just say that you were actually cool? No, that can’t be right. / Seriously dude, lightin up.
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 6:09 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I would have to agree on most points
Instead of beating a dead hoarse repeating what you FinHead83 said i’ll just put my two sense in about the important topics. Injuries suck, I do not disagree with keeping Long in against Dallas, he may have a lingering injury, but you got to hope he bounces back and not think the worse.
Vontae could have a foot sprain, or a small injury. If he goes on IR or misses significant time than think the worse.
Jason Allen apparently is playing better now. I have always liked this guy, wanted him to succeed, I don’t think he had the best opportunity coming out of the draft, playing safety playing corner, he may finally have gotten it. And if he is playing better than Smith at this point then play Allen… Its a high class problem to have too many CB’s….
work meeting now put my thoughts on Parcell in a bit.
The Patriots Suck
Parcells
You have to hand the keys over eventually, I think now is the best time to do it. All the big moves have been made, the draft Free agency and roster cuts. Handing it over to Ireland now who will slowly transition in with a few regular season moves makes complete sense. Parcells isn’t gone he is still there, and I think the team will be just fine!
I’d rather it now then at the end of the season or before the draft to me it makes the most sense.
The Patriots Suck
I think we are on the same page
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i would have done it right after the draft
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, here is my take
I’ll simply state it. I am not disappointed in the moves or play of this team, neither am I excited. It’s more like I am disappointed that I am not excited. I hoped to be feeling much better about this team at this point, now I am in a holding pattern.
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 8, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Right or wrong
it seems as though BP thinks hes successfully overseen a total transformation in attitude,philosophy and personnel and is confident Ireland will build on that vs. jack it up,that was his stated plan and it’s that time.
You can only buy so many needed and available players so you have to go young and pray you’re right more than wrong when you start from scratch and you have to wait two or three years to see if you were right plus continue churning.
We have a lot of very young players that are already pretty dern good and some are real good IMO and they will all prime together so i’m willing to go through the growing pains of building the foundation for future success.We all lived through a decade of past formulas that barely reached mediocre,can’t we live through four or five with the chance of becoming great?Pitt did as did Indy,New England,N.O. and NYG and were rewarded so i’m going to be a little patient.
by haildanhenningnow on Sep 8, 2010 7:08 AM EDT reply actions
We cut a couple old backups, and a couple starters are dinged up…
Our season is a complete failure! Were rebuilding! Gimme a break Lefty.
U think the Pats are giving up after actually losing STARTERS for the year? U think the cowboys are rebuilding because their played like crap in preseason?
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 8, 2010 8:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
On top of that our division is looking easier by the day,
Almost all our players are healthy,all of our players are happy,fiscally,we look good going into next year when the cap returns,as for money,just cuz we got it,doesnt mean we need to spend all to the last penny. Look at the pats,welker is a question mark,brady and moss are unhappy,wheres the pass rush gonna come from? Look at the jets,everything rests on sanchez making major improvements,with all these signings,"including the new deal for revis,well,this looks like a one and done situation to me. Looks like alot of desperation moves made to bring the jests a ring,but if they win this year,so what. What about next year? The cap is and was set for a reason,and I dont see them resigning a whole lot this coming offseason.
Buffalo has to rely on trent edwards,cj spiller,lee evans and david martin. New england has several uncertainties,losing wes wont matter cuz of eddleman,but if they lose moss,or if he doesnt play up to potential due to his contract debate,who is gonna step up? Brady wants a new contract,hell get it but hes 30+ years old. And if he gets hurt,who steps in? Half of the jets recieving core has off the field issues,the other half drop more than they catch. Braylon edwards is good,but hes not brandon marshall.
Runningbacks,we have plenty,jets are relying on a guy that isnt what he used to be,and shonne greene,only 3 games exp. New england,well they havent had a thousand yard rusher since bellicheat took the reigns. What about buffalo? Sure,they got spiller,but how long before running for his life behind a bad oline before wear and tear sets in.
We have three known starters in our qb stable,3 known runningbacks in our stable,the beast,bess,hartline,and two promising rooks in our wr core,and thats just offense.
damn,if you think the sky is falling,you need to take another look at our roster,cuz I dont see it
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 8, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First, who is suggesting "giving up"? What R U talking about?
2ndly – pats and cowboys have established QBs; they are more mature teams.
it makes a difference
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
its like watching LCFF be me in one of my posts. I get to watch thru the window of how I defend one of my topics. Very interesting (and entertaining) indeed.-)
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
i feel like you right now
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you read like me too
Don’t go Left, don’t go down!
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
simmer down pup
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Not necessarily give up
But start to doubt the team based off some insignificant moves and injuries.
And so what if cowboys/pats have an established qb???? We have an established running game…
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
not yet this year
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony Romo isnt looking like an established QB this season yet...
Seated in the Marlon Moore/Roberto Wallce BandWagon
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 9, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
dude, just for the sake of argument - 2 questions:
- do you think that a QB who has proven that he has ability has to prove it every consecutive year (barring injury or declining skill set due to age)?
- what do you think has more moving parts: a) an established quarterback; b) a successful running game?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see how this post reads after the first three games..
It’s a little too early to push tha panic button…we haven’t even played one regular season game yet…I’m hoping for a good start…then we can all sit back and push the Staples ‘That was easy’ button instead.
Frankly.........
I am tired of the attitude that this site has taken on in the past few months. I’ll get my Dolphin new somewhere else. [deleted from book marks]
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Snort, gasp, sigh, cough…is that a little piece of the sky on my shoulder? I KNEW IT!!!! CLS CLS CLS CLS
Old tuna
BP is almost 70 years old and gets paind either way. This way he has his cake and eats it too. He comes to work when he wants to and leaves when he wants. That’s how I would retire if I was a football coach my whole life. And he has to do it now or it would look like he is baling out mid season.
And for those who say he could do that anyway just remember people like him lead by example. How would it look if he was only around part time.
What disarray?
Just because you were high on Douglas and Grant, doesn’t mean the coaches were. Just because you thought Martin could repeat his 2008 productivity, doesn’t mean the coaches did. And so on.
Seeing this as a team in disarray is a function of your perspective on some of these decisions—but Parcells’ teams always churn the bottom part of the roster, and this is really no different.
I don’t think this team views itself as anything other than a contender, and I think the Tuna’s timing, if anything, is more a reflection of “job well done, now I can GTFO and play more golf,” than “I better get some distance from the upcoming train wreck,”—simply because I don’t believe he thinks a train wreck is coming.
--the artist formerly known as Phillyfinfan--
Finally.
I can’t fathom how so many people take the viewpoint that opposes this one. It’s like everybody on this site it secretly from the media trying to stir up controversy wherever they can.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
"Disarray"?
C’mon on now Left, that’s a (s)cam-cameron era term and not applicable here.
I don’t see how parcell’s “title” change has any effect on our on field perfromance.
As for Martin being “grilled” for info….you don’t keep a player to “protect” your secrets, I mean all teams cut ties with lads at this time. I don’t buy that a team beats you because they picked up your former 3rd string TE….
Well how about they beat us because,
a) we’re playing like crap, b) we have 0 depth on D. ouch, lol, I hate to say it but it is undeniable right now.
Lets face it, we are not looking good heading into this game, Sparano hasn’t got this team ready to play a game since week 14 last year, and for the record lets put this on paper too, there has been a definitive lack of leadership since Peezy and Sparano had their little tiff.
With us reeling so bad maybe Martin’s info will be just enough, either way dollars to donuts Martin is still the better TE than Nalbone. just sayin.
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by uncle finster on Sep 8, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough...
but Parcell’s isn’t responsible for guys like Marshall forgetting how to catch passes, or for Smith/Davis deciding they can’t be within 10 yards of opposing receivers, or Henne to miss wide open receivers. That, imo, is entirely on the players.
Now the penalties and schemes? That’s 100% on the coaches and they should have these guys ready to play and right now, that doesnt appear to be the case.
As for Martin, we can debate which TE ought to be where on the depth chart, but lefty’s point was that the bills were “grilling” him for dolphins info. The latter I find silly as all teams release players and if there was that much to be gained, then players cut would never get out of their own divisions and yet obviously they do.
Disarray is a strong word…..I prefer to think that the team hasn’t put its best foot forward…yet. But they more or less must this weekend because with our schedule, the buffalo game is one they have to win.
guys like Marshall forgetting how to catch passes,
I think Ginn cursed the # 19 jersey. It is forever worthless to us now /
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Yes. I. Did.
Welp...
I guess if a jersey can curse a player, then Phinsider negativity can curse a team.
just sayin’…
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Yea
but Ginn never wore 13
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A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
Yes. I. Did.
but he did /
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A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
Yes. I. Did.
I hate number 21.
It causes contempt toward a city that took a huge chance on you and also leads to numerous illegitimate fertilizations. F-U McGahee!!!!
I remember a game with Marino in NE after Byars left the Phins for the Pats
Marino called an audible to a slant pass. Ted Johnson signaled the CB that a slant pass was coming. Ted Johnson then intercepted the pass and returned it for a TD. After the game, Johnson said that Byars told them what the audible phrases and hand signals meant so the defense knew what was coming.
Working on something all through OTA’s and training camp using one language and then changing it for the first game during game week is a challenge. Don’t dismiss Martin’s knowledge of the offense as a potential problem for Miami in Buffalo.
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Martin
Martin wasn’t with Miami all offseason. He spent a week on the roster so I doubt he was able to catch on to and remember all the audibles.
Its the same system that he ran a couple of years ago. Same terminology.
He knew the play calling and audibles before he left. He might have even known the game plan for the Bills. Coaches usually start implementing the game plan for the week #1 opponent during the week of the final preseason game.
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No...
Terminology changes throughout the season. The same terminology Martin used in 2008 is not the same today. Team’s update the terminology because they don’t want their opponents to pick up on it the second time they play them. As for Martin, he was released before Miami ever made their gameplan known to the players. Sparano said last week he would start developing the gameplan this Monday. Martin was gone by then.
That's all well and good. That's what coaches all say. But the reality is much different.
Do you honestly believe that football coaches, the most anal coaches obsessed with preparation, aren’t going to take full advantage of having extra time to prepare? It just doesn’t happen. Just because the players aren’t given a piece of paper that says “Game Plan For The Buffalo Bills” doesn’t mean that during the entire training camp that plays aren’t practiced with Buffalo in mind. There has probably been plays in practice where coaches tell the players that this is something that will be in the game against Buffalo. It is niave to think otherwise.
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Preparation
No, I don’t believe they were practicing in training camp with the Bills in mind. That is too far in the future to be concerned with that. Any coach doing so is making a huge mistake. Training camp is a time to work the the schemes you’re going to employ throughout the season, not week one. I’m sure players knew in every practice they would see a lot of plays throughout the season, but they wouldn’t know specifically in which game. Again, the coaches wouldn’t even know.
Coaches definately know. Prior to training camp even starting, the coaching staff had a preliminary game plan in place for every opponent this year.
They had scouting reports, game film breakdowns, etc. What else do you think coaches do in the off season? I have coached at various levels of football and attended about a dozen NFL training camps. I was allowed to sit in on team and positional meetings during some of those camps. Trust me, from the opening of camp to the actual first game, that is the focus of the coaching staff and the team.
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"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Coaches in the offseason
Coaches have scouting reports, game gilm, and more year round. In OTAs and TC, coaches are evaluating their own players, not their opponents. The biggest thing they get out of film is how their own players perform. Team rosters aren’t even set in June or even July so it serves little purpose to scout the opposing players for all the teams you’re playing.
Even if we want to bring this back around to how Martin can help the Bills, he wasn’t around during this period either. He was with Miami for a week.
For the record
Martin was on the Fins for month, not a week. And he was with the team during the final installs.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
having a little trouble with my math
but somehow martin was with the team for a week, yet he played in 3 preseason games….
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Nat, my point was that he was cut
we are already thin at the position, and Nalbone is unproven.
the stuff about buffalo grilling him is probably true – he’s a smart guy and knows what they have been practicing on offense – my concern was not that. that was just commentary.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
To all saying Martin, whomever is going to reveal all our secrets...
if you really buy into that, then why isn’t Miami desperately signing players that NE/BUffalo/Jets have cut?
if there was a player we needed, we would. we have done it in the past, just as every team has
but how often do you get to sign a player you need, who got cut from the team you are going to play, the week before you play them?
C’mon Nat, you know how this works.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, I know how it works
but I think the importance of that is wildly overblown and of course, it makes great fodder for forums and message boards.
And hey, if you think it really is that big a deal, then have the dolphins go sign James Hardy, buffalo cut him and he’s what, a 6’5" 220+ lb receiver…..pry him for information then run him into the practice squad…
Nat I believe the quote is
son your don’t want to go through life as slow, dumb, and injured…
James Hardy is on double secret probation.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
well bellycheat is
well known for doing this in the past… he frequently signs guys off other teams PS a week or two before big games…
so it IS important to some coaches.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what happened on that last post,
that wasn’t the whole thing, but the gist was, what if we lost because we are not playing well and our back ups are being victimized when they have to spell the starters, and its a dog fight of a game, thats when Martin’s info and distractions could possibly make a difference.
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by uncle finster on Sep 9, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
OK.......
now that other post is there, so nobody knows what I’m talking about right now…………….. I’m gonna just stop now, have a nice day.
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by uncle finster on Sep 9, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
wait... what?
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Man the lifeboats!
Why all the panic over bit players? What’s really going to hurt us is the loss of Pat White and Patrick Turner. I mean, the Patriots immediately replaced Brady with White, and the Jets dumped Santonio Thingummy for The Human Thunderbolt…..
Whoever the Dolphins select at 12, will definitely be the 12th pick of the draft. Unless they trade down, of course.
i didn't mention white or turner because i agree with you here
but i DO think the loss of Grant and Douglas will impact the team.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Great write up Lefty,
because those of us who remember pre Dolphin Tuna, we remember what an egotistical jerk he was, this is a guy who, ripped his bosses in the media, ripped his players in the media, while always having that don’t you dare question me sneer on his face.,
He kept out of the media here for a reason, if he hadn’t, many of you would have a different take on the big Tuna, there isn’t 1 organization that wanted him to stay,. he has effectively worn out his welcome everywhere, everywhere but here, but you didn’t have to hear from him daily.
For anybody who thinks Tuna is too benevolent to do something like that, check your facts, he doesn’t care about his bosses, doesn’t care about his players, unless they give him what he wants, if they don’t, then he would eviscerate them in the media, IOW, he would NEVER hire himself.
Now just like you Lefty, I’m am just speculating, but when you see your team making many questionable moves, when in a week it looks as thought your team is much weaker, all of the sudden, out of the blue, Tuna steps down effective immediately, no fan fare, no presser, like he snuck out the back door, it just naturally brings up that question, is he jumping ship.
It is a very fair speculation.
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Not really
Parcells has never done much in the way of interviews or press availability at Miami. He isn’t sneaking off, just giving Ireland some space to grow into the role. If Parcells really wanted to jump, he’d just leave totally and for good. He’s still a daily consultant.
Whoever the Dolphins select at 12, will definitely be the 12th pick of the draft. Unless they trade down, of course.
He is still getting paid.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 8, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I've actually always liked the Tuna, and that sneer
He is a big personality, no doubt, and I see how that rubs some the wrong way—but I’ve always been a huge fan of him and his philosophy, and appreciated his idiosyncrasies (and ego) as amusing.
I think it’s a bit unfair for you to assume that the only reason people like him is because they don’t know him as well as you do.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 8, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Parcells stepping down
Why would someone believe Parcells resigned because he thought Miami was moving in the wrong direction? He had all the final decisions on personnel matters, including who Miami signs and releases. If he thought Miami was making the wrong movies, he would veto the moves instead of allowing it to happen and then resigning.
Nothing but love for LCFF
I know you have been a fin fan longer than Parcells and I share your view on the timing of his step down and late roster moves. Only a person with a complete closed mind will ignore the facts. Great post and keep hope alive.
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A complete closed mind?
You’re probably one of those guys that are still questioning why we traded Camarillo aren’t you? You need to give the CLS a break for a minute and try and look at things with some prespective, since you talk about closed minded. You want to look at facts, so let’s look at them.
Camarillo was not going to have much of an impact this season, so the fact we got SOMETHING in a trade instead of just cutting him was actually good.
Martin wasn’t the 2008 Martin. He was the 2010 version. Yeah, he may be better than Nalbone, but it wasn’t like he was going to come into this season and light it up. He wasn’t impressing anyone in camp and he was seen as expendable by the coaches. The real loss was Haynos as he would have been the #2 TE had he not gotten hurt and Martin would have gotten cut anyway.
Cutting the two DEs was a cost cutting maneuver. Neither of those guys were that special. Douglas was seen as a run stuffing DE who would rotate with Odrick. Odrick held him off in camp and never looked back. Grant was a 4-3 DE, who was looked upon by most everyone as the 7th D-lineman. He was going to be a nickel pass rusher at best. He was going to make about $1M this season. That’s alot to pay a guy who will only see a handful of plays per game. Neither Douglas or Grant was close to pushing for the starting job. We still have McDaniel who OUTPLAYED both of them. So if you look at the depth chart, you have Starks, Soliai at NT. Odrick, Langford at starting DE. McDaniel and Geathers as the backups. That’s ONE ROOKIE as a backup. When you look at it that way, its not as bad as you think. Not to mention that we will most likely sign Douglas or Grant or BOTH back next week when their contracts will not be guaranteed.
Injuries happen. You can’t expect them not to. Davis is a little dinged up and so is Long. Who’s to say that wouldn’t happen in game one? If an injury happens, you have to deal with it as best you can. Our backups have to be ready to play anyway.
Sean Smith was struggling, this we know. But don’t act like he was some world beater or anything. He is a second year player who played ok, but not great in his first season. Davis was outplaying him this season and it appears that even Jason Allen performed better. Smith appears to lack some mental toughness that you need to have to be a starting CB in the NFL. I fully expect him to turn it around however.
Berger won the starting center job outright. Grove can’t stay healthy enough to lock it down. We knew this last season. We talked about it all through camp this season. This is not some new development. Grove is a good center when healthy. I fully expect this to be addressed in the upcoming draft.
Crowder is injured… so what’s new? That’s why we brought in Dobbins. We knew we needed depth at ILB and now we have it. I don’t really see the problem here. Crowder was an ok player, but was by no means an All-Pro. He should be back before too long anyway.
And the big one… Parcells. This was an EXPECTED move. Everyone knew he would kick Ireland “out of the nest” at some point. And Parcells isn’t quitting anyway. He’s still going to be consulting. He stepped out of the position at the most opportune time FOR GMS. Yeah, its a few days before the first game of the year. But if this had happened at the end of the season, then the CLS folks would have been upset because he left the team just when Ireland needed him to scout, and analyze the draft, yada, yada, yada. This happened when the FO is almost completely finished developing the roster. It wasn’t that big of a deal.
So before you go saying how “closed minded” everyone is that “ignores the facts”, why don’t you look at the facts yourself and try to gain some perspective.
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by The Earl on Sep 8, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Earl, nice write up. The only thing I will disagree with is the Grant and Douglas statement.
Odrick and Misi were starters from the get go once camp opened. And after watching every snap of every preseason game it was obvious that Odrick didn’t outplay Douglas or Grant and Misi outplayed IAK. Yet they are still starters.
Douglas was a starter on the #1 Defense last year, but couldn’t even make the Phins at a position of need. Grant was a starting DE on the Super Bowl champions prior to getting hurt, but couldn’t make the Phins at a position of need. The only reason, let me repeat this, THE ONLY REASON, why those players didn’t sign with their former teams was money.
I think it is highly unlikely that the decision to start Odrick over either one of those two players was based on performance. I think it has everything to do with the fact that they both were high draft picks. The FO and the coaching staff needs to play draft picks, especially knowing that a 2nd round pick (White) and 3rd round pick (Turner) from ’09 were about to be cut.
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Meant to say Misi didn't outplay IAK. Sorry.
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But they had most of camp to beat those guys
and Grant and Douglas couldn’t beat Odrick in camp. IAF started in the 4th game instead of Misi and may start this week. So I think they had a chance in TC and didn’t do it. I still think they’ll bring back Douglas next week.
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I hope they bring him back, because right now Douglas is a better player than Odrick.
That doesn’t mean that Odrick won’t be the better player someday (maybe even by the middle of the season). But Odrick is not ready to be a starter in the NFL.
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I think Odrick will be ok
And IAF is running with the first teamers today, so I think he and Misi will work a rotation throughout the season.
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i thought grant was better than Odrick
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought both Grant and Douglas has outplayed Odrick this preseason.
Odrick was getting pushed around quite easily. It took him until the 4th preseason game to record a tackle and that was 30 yards downfield and against back-ups. I didn’t see him do much at the point of attack.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The truth is that Odrick outplayed Grant and Douglas in TC
They had ample opportunity to beat him out and didn’t. IAF seems to have won the starting job at least for this week. So I don’t think they just give the spots to early draft picks without making them earn it. I agree that Douglas would be a good pickup and I think we’ll still get him. I don’t know that Grant would be a good 3-4 DE, but would be a decent nickel rusher in a 4-3 front.
The facts are that we do have depth issues at DE. But we also have a young player who is steadily improving and gives us versatility in different looks. We have a stalwart in Langford. We have a decent backup in McDaniel and we have some young talent at the position to evaluate after a week and see if we need to bring back one of the vets at a cheaper cost.
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i am not predicting failure here
but i am thinking that we just removed a couple of arrows from Nolan’s quiver.
With the secondary up in the air, this is probably not good.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year
Merling and McDaniel had over 300 snaps each, almost 700 comined, high 300’s for Merling and low 300’s for McDaniel, that was with Starks starting, and he was awesome, Odrick isn’t awesome yet.
Langford had over 500 snaps and Starks had over 700 snaps, do you see where I’m going, Starks is now a NT, Odrick isn’t as good as Langford so he should get less snaps, that would mean more snaps for the back up’s, but we only have one, are we going to give our back up 800 snaps, lol
This is not a small predicament, it is a huge one, you do the math, how are you going to spread those 2000 snaps out over 3 guys, who aren’t as good as the 4 guys we had last year.
Food for thought.
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by uncle finster on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW,
IMO (and many others, lol) Odrick did not play better than those 2, I fully expected Grant or Douglas to start, and Merling would have beat him out also, again IMO, Odrick right now isn’t much better than McDaniel.
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by uncle finster on Sep 9, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you that we need some depth at DE
But Douglas and Grant had ALL training camp to beat Odrick out and still couldn’t do it. Merling may have beat him out, but who knows. Odrick may not be much better than McDaniel right now. But McDaniel was good enough to beat out Douglas AND Grant.
That’s the one thing about this argument that everyone seems to forget. It wasn’t like Grant and Douglas came in last week. They were here for most, if not all of training camp. They had ample time to supplant Odrick, yet they still couldn’t do it. And don’t say its only because he was a high pick. Misi was the starter for most of TC, yet was outplayed by IAF enough that IAF is starting this weekend. Those guys had their chance and couldn’t do it.
Another thing: Grant has been a 4-3 DE his entire career. Playing the 5-tech in the 3-4 would be different and he may not have shown that he was adapting well to it. Plus NO has depth questions along their front line, yet chose to let him go. That says something.
Douglas was released by the Jets, who have just as many, if not more questions with their DE position. They have a glaring need at DE, yet still chose to let Douglas go. That says something as well.
One more thing to think about: What if we had drafted Geathers? I am thinking that he was on the draft board and was taken before we could draft him. If we had drafted Geathers, then I doubt Grant or Douglas would have even been here.
Having said that, I still think we’ll resign Douglas after the first game and send Rose to the PS. I think that Geathers will remain on the squad because of his size. If that happens, we should be in good shape.
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see, this is where i disagree
Douglas and Grant had ALL training camp to beat Odrick out and still couldn’t do it.
the coaches may have reasons other than performance for not letting Grant or Douglas beat out Odrick, and I suspect this is true. We have seen it from these decision makers already with moves like not signing JT – they want to go young. Which is good. Don’t get me wrong here.
But i will take the statement “when all things are equal, go with the young guy” one step further…. I believe Grant probably outplayed Odrick, so they were not equal. But Odrick was already paid for and Grant has 1 or 2 years left (probably) so they will throw Odrick in the fire and see if he survives or melts.
The only problem I have with this strategy is it tends to be the polar opposite of “win now”. It is all about the future and developing guys, but doesn’t put as much urgency into the current season.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with your points
I believe the Merling injury really hurt us because it took away a young rotation guy. I think Odrick did enough in camp to hold them off though. During the open thread posts, I read tweets that Odrick was playing really well and holding his own against Long. I think part of the reasons he hasn’t played well this preseason is the overall defense. We’ve been fairly vanilla and he’s been getting double teams. I think that is a good thing since he is a rookie. To me, that means the LT couldn’t handle him on his own. I think when Nolan cranks up the blitzing and the full defensive package, then we’ll see if Odrick will shine or not.
As far as the releases go, I think the two guys we resigned have shown enough in PS that they were worth poaching. I think Geathers was the most intriguing to them and they would have drafted him had he fallen to them in the 7th.
I still think Douglas will be resigned and Rose will get waived or sent to the PS. Our DEs will be Langford, Odrick, Douglas, McDaniels, and Geathers.
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Here's Nolan's take:
Jared Odrick has been best DE so far.
Now whether that’s just lip service or not who knows.
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well there is one other reason
MONEY – they can’t cut there two draft picks – so they cut the next guys…
that said i do expect them to at least bring grant back if not douglas on tuesday…
the question though is … did they do too much damage trying to save a little money?
and have they jeopardized winning the bills game because of it…
CLS – but sometimes things are not working and CLS is better then Head In The Sand syndrome.(HTS)
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
technically...
it’s C.L.S. and H.I.T.S
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yes Earl, actually he stated it pretty fairly.
A completely closed mind will rationalize even the most blatantly obvious facts to either:
- minimize and dismiss them as unimportant, or
- pretend they don’t exist
He never said everyone around here is closed minded. He just stated that closed minded people ignore facts.
that’s right isn’t it?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
That is true
But it was the implication behind it.
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i think the implication was that these are real issues and to completely disregard them is probably closed minded
but i didn’t see where he said anyone or everyone.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I apologize if I misconstrued his intent with the comment
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no need to apoligize to me.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of which,
Anyone else notice we have 3 backs that all could start for the pats,3 qb’s that could all start for the bills,and at least 3 recievers that could all start for the jests…i mean come on already the jets latest move was to sign a castoff that was 6th on our depth chart…. It wouldnt suprise me a bit to see the bills pick up white,and as for the pats,well bellicheats probably waiting by the phone in case we dont resign brown,sooo,whats the issue here?
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Earl, I support the Cam for Sapp trade because we need ST help and we are deep at the
rcvr position, I think Douglas and Grant was great depth for or DE positions, I think Martin is better than Nalbone, and I did rather play Dobbins before Crowder. Those are my feelings and if they differ from yours or anybody else’s, I can’t help that but I am open enuff to respect other opinions and change my opinion if the others have valid points.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I apologize because I took your comment a different way than it was intended
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I as well, and lets go get this 1st win under our belts. A salute to you, my majesty.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 8, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL... well I am far from being a majesty
The Earl is a nickname I’ve had for about half my life
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Thank You LCFF
as a counter to the constant CLS remarks. Please enough already. The myopic views run wild on this board and people here should be considerate and better mannered. Fans are too often ridiculed here and ignored. I also consider myself a realist and somewhat pessimistic but only because the performance and leadership of this team have made me so. I am not excited at all by this team for the first time ever and feel the team is not ready for the season. The results I see are not encouraging and I have no proof this team will start well since they have not done so under Sporano. This whole thing can fall apart this year and we’ll have another retool, rebuild whatever you want to call it. This is a team that was 7-9 last year and may have had the worst training camp this year in the past five years. There are too many legitimate concerns with this team. Trifecta my butt, there’s nothing remotely close to perfect about these guys.
well said
i tend to be called a “homer” due to my generally optimistic view points around here, but facts are facts.
The people who don’t like it are trying to pick apart the individual points without looking at a simple big picture, which is:
Young team, O-line in flux, hasn’t played well so far, with a flurry of changes THE WEEK BEFORE THE FIRST GAME.
How in the world can anyone argue that it is a good thing??? I am astounded by the Ostrichitis 
I am seeing from people I thought were a little more objective than that (ahem… neo)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Good thing?
I don’t think anyone thinks it’s a good thing or have claimed to be. I just believe a lot of people, including me, will only have a limited impact. Keep in mind we were a young team with an OL in flux that didn’t play well in the preseason for the past few years…
yes. you are right.
and for the past few years we have started very slow, right?
i am not saying the season is a loss, but this year we can’t afford to get too far in the hole and still expect to make the playoffs.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The past few years
We also played the Falcons, Colts, Chargers, Jets, and Cardinals. Minus the Jets (were 9-7), they all were playoff teams. Out of those games, only the Cardinals in 2008 and the Falcons last year were pretty ugly. We could easily have lost to those teams at any point in the year let alone the first few weeks.
and this season is easier??
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying it is
Though I would have to say Buffalo is the easiest one out of all the teams mentioned.
Does anybody hear anything??
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
why does this surprise you lefty
you were around for the Cam era? you fought through matty and the beck lovers? there are always going to be the cheerleaders around and they will always suffer from HitS syndrome(head in the sand)… i’m sure if i put a post up saying the Cam era was the worst in the history of the NFL – there still will be 10 cheerleaders around here defending J Beck, the Ginn pick over Okoye, Willis, & Revis, the welker trade… or any of the other idiotic things he did… (Cam if you are still reading these pages … i love you man, but it’s the truth)
The intent of your post is 100% Accurate… we can haggle about some of the details but taken en mass, the team is in disarray right now and its hard not to be concerned… heck this one of the two most important games of the year for me, and having lost 5 of the last 6 in buffalo before the team shows signs of imploding is starting to make me look for a nice spot underground.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 8, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
we can win this!
(just keep reciting that mantra and everything will be okay)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have to agree.
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by uncle finster on Sep 9, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one tired or hearing CLS?
There’s a difference between …ahem…CLS cough…and being realistic. You cant just ignore all these genuine concerns. I am very concerned about Jake Long but I stay positive, and even if he is down we will continue to play. I think Parcells leaving is a vote of confidence for this team.
No matter what the season is coming so time to just support our team. Go Fins!
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by Phinatics on Sep 8, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
well said and rec'd!
this is the point. there are genuine, material concerns with the team, concerns about the O-line and the Secondary. And this is not good 5 days before the first game. And with the exception of the Long injury, i expected the issues of the Oline stability and the starting secondary to have been ironed out long before now.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
somone once told me you can’t rec’d every post that agrees with you. I wonder who that was…
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
not me
i don’t talk to you, remember?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
but you type to me
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
no i don't
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, didn't get that
could you retype it?
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i said
“No I Don’t”
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
simmer down pup
you don’t have to get all loud. -)
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by Neo on Sep 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol; does any have a panic plunger or what?!?
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 8, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Martin was signed late in camp and the Bills couldn't beat us with a copy of our gameplan
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 8, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
Lefty! Et tu, Brute.'
While I do share your concerns to a certain extent, for me Bill Parcells has little to do with it. Injuries are more to the forefront along with depth questions. You certainly touched on these. But I think it’s the normal anxiety we face before the advent of every regular season. We have seen indications of how the Dolphins will match-up this preseason and there is room for legitimate concern.
I for one will remain optimistic about our chances. it’s a guarantee that they’re showing some trepidation in Buffalo right now, as well. And all the rest of the franchises for that matter. We are moving forward into the unknown.
And by the way, when I read a post in which Lefty is the pessimist and Neo is the optimist, it has the tendency to throw my whole day off. Cats will be chasing dogs and the homeless guys with the cardboard signs will try to give me money today. I can feel it.
The 2010 Miami Dolphins. It's time to put the beat-down on the rest of the NFL!
LMAO!
when I read a post in which Lefty is the pessimist and Neo is the optimist, it has the tendency to throw my whole day off.
And I am not really concerned about the BP thing. But i think it is silly to say that the timing was coincidence. ;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
and yet, Lefty was being a pessimist in this particular post...
Whoever took away our pollyanna Lefty, please bring him back ;-)
i think that was his point....
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
see, this is our problem
us fin fans don’t know how to be optimistic.
the first year in a long time that we’ve had reason to be optimistic, and we have to go and find things to panic about….
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I'm going back to bed.
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Ok, if you really want to worry about something, then this is the biggest question for our team:
CAN CHAD HENNE TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND BECOME A TOP TIER QUARTERBACK???
Despite the old adage that “defense wins championships”, the truth is that in today’s NFL, you need to have top of the line QB play. Check these excerpts from an ESPN article:
Joyner tracked every defense that ranked among the top five since the NFL-AFL merger. A high percentage propelled their teams into the playoffs, but Super Bowls demanded elite quarterback play.
But quarterbacks who rank in the top 10 in passer rating have more than three times the chance of reaching the Super Bowl.
If you look at last year’s Super Bowl teams, both teams were ranked in the bottom half in total scoring. Super Bowl champs New Orleans gave up 8.5 more yards per game than our lousy defense. In terms of pass defense, they were worse than we were. Let me repeat that: THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPION NEW ORLEANS SAINTS HAD A WORSE PASS DEFENSE THAN MIAMI. They had a worse run defense than we did last season. But they won the Super Bowl because they had a top of the line QB.
Indianapolis’ defense wasn’t much better last season and looks even worse this year. They were about middle of the road in pass defense and terrible at run defense. But no one is counting them out because of Manning.
Same thing with New England. Their defense looks rough this year as well, but everyone expects them to win because of Brady.
Despite all of this uproar about CBs and TEs and depth at defensive line, the real question lies with whether or not our quarterback can become great. That is the ONLY question that matters to me. If Henne can become a great QB, then we can win games in spite of any defensive struggles. The days of game managing QBs winning Super Bowls are history. If this Miami Dolphins team wants to have any playoff success or even think about championships, then they will need Chad Henne to step up and play like a championship QB. Our success doesn’t ride on our TEs, or our pass defense, or our defensive line depth. Our success as a team rides on the shoulders of #7.
So if you want to have CLS, then THAT is what you need to worry about.
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by The Earl on Sep 8, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Completely, Wholeheartedly, Agree!
The future of this team falls squarely on the shoulders of Chad Henne. If he becomes elite (top 10), the Phins will be in the playoffs year in and year out. They will also challenge to win Super Bowls year in and year out.
I have said this since the end of last year. The Phins defense is good enough, but for the Phins to take the next step they have to increase point production on Offense. They need game changers and dynamic playmakers. The only one on offense right now is Marshall. Hopefully Henne becomes the next one. And if they can find one more they could be special.
There is one stat at the end of the year that will tell us how well the Phins did. If they average 27+ points a game, they will be Super Bowl contenders. It is really that simple.
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Stats don't tell the whole story
New Orleans gave up a ton of passing yards because other teams were playing from behind almost the entire year - you just can’t look at stats on the whole, they have to be dissected. Miami on the other hand was playing with the lead a lot less than New Orleans, so Miami’s passing yards allowed in the end were probably worse than the Saints.
by rintintinsoldier on Sep 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The point was though that elite QBs win games, specifically championships more than elite defenses
I wouldn’t mind in the least if our defense was ranked in the bottom half if Henne became a top 10 QB this year.
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The Sky is falling on Buffalo...
and the Miami Dolphins are the SKY!!
Don’t worry so much man. it’s time to get behind our team and cheer!
It’s time to do our jobs as fans and make this team feel like we believe they can take it all….BECAUSE THEY CAN!
“WHY NOT US?”
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J! E! T! S! Suck! Suck! Suck! Suck!
Tom Brady should have his thumbs removed! Slowly!
your.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
Well Jake Long is in full gear and practicing today
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And Vontae is back and seems to be fine
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Ok at least 2 big concerns down
I got it wrong Tebow was a 1st rounder... Mau you won on this one... Damn!
good news!
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
by 54 on Sep 8, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami 24, Buffalo 13
I’ll be there.
Everyone relax, Miami will be fine.
MATTEAU!!!!! MATTEAU!!!!!!! MATTEAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was waiting of the NOT! at the end.
But, your concerns are valid with the exception of Parcells IMO. I’m not ready to throw the lifeboats in the water. We will have to see how these things plays out.
Davis played nicked up last year.
Long’s knee is a concern. But we saw him standing up joking around with his teammates.
It has been said Crowder will be ready to go game one. (don’t know if it’s true or not)
We churned the bottom of the roster. Grant and Douglas were at the bottom.
Berger should start ahead of Grove vs the non-elite opponents
Martin didn’t look the same on his return.
Smith is ok. It wont surprise me if he plays game one. But It would be awesome if J Allen finally turned the corner
Are you and Matty playing good cop bad cop? :)
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
yeah, i honestly don't care about the Parcells thing
I am most concerned about, in this order:
- Long (even if he plays, will it effect him later or is it something that will heal)
- Sean Smith being demoted this late in the game (if Jason Allen has been playing that well, why didn’t he earn the spot around the 2nd or 3rd PS game when he could get more first team practice?)
- The O-line playing well. We can make up for a weak D if we can run the ball and pass protect. I have no worries about Henne and the WRs. But i am concerned that it will take the O-line a while to gel.
I got tired of being the good cop this week. ;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
the season is over
lets trade a 2nd round pick for michael vick and implement a real wildcat offense. lol
seriously?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Not too releated
But anyone else have the strangest feeling that this Buffalo game will define our season?
Win and we go to the playoffs almost assuredly
lose and Tony Sporano starts becoming questioned for his slow starts and our teams problems will be thoroughly exposed
I’m really anxious/scared for this first game the bills are tricky little bastards
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i think there is some substance to this idea
while i don’t think it will make or break the season, it certainly will be hard for the team to swallow a loss – morale-wise and W/L-wise. i believe the margin for error this season is slim.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The proverbial "must win" right off the bat.
I wish I could disagree but this is a trap game with the Murderer’s Row coming up in our first 8 games.
The 2010 Miami Dolphins. It's time to put the beat-down on the rest of the NFL!
yup...
i will be watching it and screaming at the screen, or jumping up to high five the ceiling right along with the rest of you.
but i am not as confident in the outcome of this game now as a couple of weeks back when I was talking about it like a “5th preseason game”.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember That, LCFF.
THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 8, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If you think we have issues, check out what Chan Gailey said
“It’s never easy when it’s not a clear cut starter. You have to make a decision on info you have at the time,” Chan Gailey on QB starter
We have our issues, yes. But at least we don’t have questions about who is starting the most important position on the team. How he performs, may be a different matter. But not have a “clear-cut” starting QB means you’ve got some really serious issues.
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I hope we rattle Captain Checkdown early and often....
i hope that Mike Nolan takes the gloves off and destroys a bad offensive line and a QB that won’t know how to protect himself!
Also, we need someone standing next to CJ Spiller all game long
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 8, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
but the Bills have Spiller!
just ask Nicky!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
scares the shit outta me
He is the only guy on Buffalo that can beat us by himself. We are not great on kick coverage; he’s a very good returner. We can’t defend screens; he is uber-dangerous on screens. Our OLB’s are completely untested in coverage; Spiller is very good catching passes out of the backfield.
It’s not so much what he is, it’s just that he’s good at everything that we have trouble defending it seems. IMO, the best strategy is to load up on him, float a safety over Evans, and make Edwards find other WR’s to beat us.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 9, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes to all of what you said. I hope to God that this is not the game where he proves those
of us pulling for the Phins to draft him correct.
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So wait, you do think the sky is falling?
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All that matters right now (seperate from roster moves and BP) is whether we win the next game....
The team is in full swing game planning for the Buffalo Bills (suggestion: shut down CJ Spiller and sack Captain Checkdown) and all that matters now is whether we win games or lose games.
No more having to watch 3rd stringers run around for 2 quarters, Henne & Marshall & CO will have to be on the field for a full 4 quarters or more and will have to do whatever it takes to win!
I for one am excited to see the positions the team will be put in this year and whether they will have the same fight they’ve had the past couple of years to pull out the big W in the end.
One absolute truth though: We MUST win this game against the Buffalo Bills. Starting out 0-anything would not be good for our team, plus our schedule only gets harder.
I’m just glad we don’t have to play the Ravens like the Jets do in week 1! I look for Flacco & crew to put the Jets in their place.
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
shut down CJ Spiller and sack Captain Checkdown
This ^ will take us a long way towards winning this game.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Spiller is going to have at least one big play against the Phins. I just hope that the game isn't close enough for that big play to matter.
Spiller is a preparation nightmare. No one on the Phins roster can duplicate what he does or his physical tools. You remember how much trouble the Phins had with a healthy Leon Washington? Same thing here.
You throw in first game of the year, a new coach, a new system and a player you can’t replicate in practice and you are talking a very bad combination for the Phins.
But even with all of that, the Phins should still win by 2 TD’s! =)
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We will win.
THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 8, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I play "Taps" now when I think of the Dolphins...?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ouch!
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Parcells
I can’t believe you people are making so much of Parcells stepping down and what a “distraction” it is Please, give me a break, anyone who knows the Tuna knows this is his MO. Three years, that’s it. This was the plan all along. He has groomed Ireland for this job for many years and I’m sure is confident in his ability to do the job. This was the natural progression of things, he’ll now stick around for the rest of the season to assist Ireland even more and by next season he should be more than ready to assume complete control. I’m sure the player’s on this team, guys who have to prepare hard for a game every week could care less about this move. It means almost nothing as far as having the team ready to play on a weekly basis. I swear, the sports media down here is always looking for drama in everything, it’s almost like an episode of “Real Housewives from New Jersey”!
by Biggest Dolphin Fan on Sep 8, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
I have to agree with you on this statment.
Bill gromed Ireland to take the rings of the Phins, and the best way of doing this is stepping back and letting Ireland take over and be there for him if he has any questions or have any problems with taking the next step forward.
by phinfansc1980 on Sep 8, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok thats it!
I am changing my mind…CLS or Head in the Sand Homerism…as of now I agree with everyone about everything! Too much of the extremes here nowdays…I love this site and well…its just getting a bit to bi-polar for me…I think I need to change my diapers! Praise the lord and pass the ammo!
i agree with you
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rev. Johnson is right! about Howard Johnson being right, about Gabby Johnson
What are we made of? Our fathers came across the prairies, fought Indians, fought drought, fought locusts, fought Dix… remember when Richard Dix came in here and tried to take over this town?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta love Rock Ridge, lol
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by uncle finster on Sep 9, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Randolph Scott!!!
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Correct me if im wrong
BP is not quiting on the Phins, or leaving the Pins, or stepping out the back door as some has said.
Bill brought in Ireland to take under his wing and grom him to take over his position when his time is up with the Phins. With Bill stepping back from the “show” and taking an observational roal with the Phins is to see how Ireland does by himself with the rigns in hand. Now I know, “oh my oh my oh my got to panic Bill is leaving us” is easy to do and say, but look Bill has gromed Ireland for 2 all most 3 seasons. Why can’t we give Ireland a chance to see if he has the mind and attitude to run the show here in Miami for the Phins? I know Bill is proven and Ireland is a shot in the dark, a none proven person taking over running things for the Phins.
Plus another thought the team in general. First of all the team in general does have alot of questions marks around them. Who’s the captains of the team? Right now I think they are still working on who is going to be captains of this team: if not they would of said who they are by now. How are they going to get together to and work as a unit on the feild? Well I have to say they will during practice for the real thing on Sunday against Buffalo. What were they thinking of, getting cutting these players and picking up thses wash outs? Well I for one am not part of the scotting team or even close to them, but for one I would say that aquaring these gents that were cut may be better for our system than the ones they were in (and wow some of these guys are HUGE!!!!!!!) and hope they assit us and make an impact for the team. Second thought is I’ve been a fan of the Phins back to 1980. I’ve been rooting for them through their good times and their bad times (and boy do I mean bad), and I really don’t care what they do or say. All I really care for is that they win at each game, and if not fix what happened and win the next.
GO PHINS
"But give Ireland a shot: who knows he may be proven person after all."
forgot to add this at the end of first paragraph.
by phinfansc1980 on Sep 8, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for the comments
i don’t know why BP became the over riding them. it was the last and least important part of this post. =)
they did pick captains, yesterday i think
Long, Dansby, Cobbs and Bell
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 8, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for letting me know
Read it on Phanshots about 2mins. ago.
Good write up though and keep up the hard work: love reading everyhting about the Phins and this one stood out from the rest.
Go Phins
by phinfansc1980 on Sep 8, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
that didn't come out right
i meant to say “became the overriding theme”
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Existential Sparano Contemplates The Meaning of it All .. From the boys at Finsnation.com
One night I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Cockpuncher, k? Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky, k.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand, k? Sometimes there were two sets of footprints, other times there was one only. These types of things.
At the end of the day, this bothered me because I noticed that during the low periods of my life, when I was suffering from anguish, sorrow or defeat, I could see only one set of footprints, so I said to the Cockpuncher,
"You promised me Bill, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I have noticed that during the most trying periods of my life (Gibril Wilson, Chad Pennington injury, the ’08 blowout in Arizona, the two losses to the Ravens, and TED GINN FUCKING JR.) there has only been one set of footprints in the sand. Why, when I needed you most, have you not been there for me – at the end of the day and these types of things?"
Cockpuncher replied, "The years when you have seen only one set of footprints, my child….
…..is when I carried you."
We are SO fucked.
The Dude and Dat Roro Kid are amazing. I have said it before and I will say it again: THE GUYS AT FINSNATION.COM ARE FREAKING HILARIOUS.
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By the way ... Cockpuncher is Parcells
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Our OL is my biggest concern Lefty because they have been so inconsistent
I wore out a pair of rabbit Lithiums in the remote watching every player on every play,on the OL, until it was a confirmed win or loss individually in the Jacksonville and Atlanta games,I wanted to know what the problem was and why Sparano was still monkeying with the rotation and while i’m a mere fan blessed with good vision and DVR,the problems are as clear as day IMO.
Berger would come in for a series and on one play would chip a guy then go destroy a LB at the second level then the very next one he would get lost and end up triple teaming a guy and let a stunt blow right by him into Hennes face but we need him because Grove is brittle yet we will need him against 3-4s because he will flat jack-up the baddest NTs you can throw at him.
Then it would be Polite who wouldn’t explode into his man and would be pushed back into the lane and/or rb then it would be Carey getting abused with a swim move,that’s what I call it for some reason,but the next play he’s driving his man into the ground…I could go on and on but you get the picture.
When they executed individually they all clicked as a unit and we were dominate and did as we wished but the exact opposite was also true so I can see the indecision on personnel and quality OL depth is a big issue IMO but now that some other spots have been addressed,I just hope we can make it through the year without serious injury issues until we can further upgrade the most vital part of an offense.
by haildanhenningnow on Sep 8, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
agree about the O-line
on D we have the option to mix it up with good play calling, and somewhat cover up deficiencies in the secondary.
but on O, if the line can’t open up the run game, nothing else will work well.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 9, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
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