Dolphins release OLB Charlie Anderson; sign ILB Bobby Carpenter
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 6, 2010 2:42 PM EDT
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Cutting Anderson saves Miami from having to pay him $2.2million. Anderson posted just five sacks in his last 32 games.
Bobby Carpenter will likely fill the nickle backer role, replacing Crowder on passing downs. The Fins had initially hoped rookie A.J. Edds would be their nickel 'backer, prior to his season ending injury.
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There are 30 other teams. Failed Cowboys dont get me excited. We did save some cash so it’s all good.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 6, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he is a downgrade,
especially since Anderson was an OLB, the primary WLB back up, and we already had 4 ILB, so now no real WLB back up.
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by uncle finster on Sep 6, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you guys not like this move?
Carpenter fills an immediate role as our nickel-backer. This also gives us great flexibility in our LB core. Dansby was the only LB on our team that could cover which meant that we would never be able to get him off the field if needed.
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it.
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Misi can and will be used as a nickle LB as well,
and Carpenter isn’t that good to begin with, he is a 1st round bust, a good STer and a mediocre LB, ILB at that, he should not be confused with a good LB, just sayin.
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by uncle finster on Sep 6, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if Misi or Dansby NEED a breather.
cuz i hope they don’t put Dobbins in that situation
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What about when Wake nereds a breather???
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Misi weak DE Langford strong DE. McDaniels weak DT. Starks strong DT
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we take him out on a run-down
and put in Alama-Francis or Moses, and bump Misi over to the weak-side. Bring both OLB’s and get your pressure from that if they decide to pass.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, and then they audible out of the run into a pass,
since they know he can’t rush the passer, yea that’ll work.
Next.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
in a running down, it would make it a lower % success rate.
so, as long our D isn’t totally incompetent in pass protection, we still won.
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What???
lol
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
umm
Bring both OLB’s and get your pressure from that if they decide to pass.
read the whole comment chief..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 7, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
I did, and if he is ineffective as a passrusher, rush him doesn’t make a difference, does it, sport.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
bringing 5 leaves at least 4 of them single teamed
somebody is getting to the QB
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as we win...
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I’m actually getting really sick of it at this point.
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The Jets make up 12.5% of our schedule, there is no reason for them to take up more than 12.5% of our discussion.
by dolphinfanatic717 on Sep 6, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
My concern is that Sparano made a point of talking about Charlie Anderson all offseason....
and then he gets released for another Cowboy player that was simply cut. Why wouldn’t you release one of those new guys we just picked up instead of Anderson?
Cripes……
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 6, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Rule number one-If they really talk you up on this team your gone!
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It’s true or smoke in mirrors. You could never tell.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
by 54 on Sep 6, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
that does seem to be the case
Remember how Sparano was raving about Patrick Turner
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I was curious about this when the Rams released him
I remember how much the front office thought of Carpenter when there was talk Miami was possibly going to trade for him while he was in Dallas. I’m not surprised at the signing, but I’m surprised they let Anderson go in favor of it. I figured Moses would’ve been the odd man out if this move happened.
Yup idk why they didnt cut Moses
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 6, 2010 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To me, Carpenter more closely resembles the skill set that Anderson possesses.
Moses is a bigger guy that can stop the run, like IAF, so it makes sense that we would trade Anderson for Carpenter. Especially considering that Carpenter is supposedly a good ST player, something our coaches covet.
Anderson isnt twice the player of Moses
yet makes twice as much at 2.2 mil and Grant isnt 7 times the player that Geathers is, nor Douglas 4 times the player that Rose is nor Proctor 5 times the player that Reitz is… need I say mo0re? This is a business of maximiziong your money, your returns understand????
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by Blaze453 on Sep 6, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nice point
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign them later for cheaper hey?
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 8, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a bad player and good against the run.
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as good as Charlie Anderson on special teams
better in coverage than CA and a better ILB than CA, not as good a pass rusher as CA, but a good blitzer in Mike Nolan’s system. Future mentor to AJ Edds?
BTW he’s soft against the run
Jared Odrick 6-5 304 DL & Tim Dobbins 6-1 246 ILB & Koa Misi 6-3 251 LOLB
Brandon Marshall 6-4 230 WR; John Jerry 6-5 328 LG; AJ Edds 6-3 247 LILB
Nolan Carroll 5-11 204 CB & Rashad Jones 6-1 214 S; Chris McCoy 6-3 244 ROLB; Austin Spitler RILB 6-2 243; Pet Cat:Chris "He's the REAL" McCoy 6-3 244
the special teams aspect is what concerns me the most
if he really is an upgrade there then it’s worth it, in my eyes.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 6, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We dont need him to be great against the run
We have Dobbins, Micah and Crowder who are pretty stout against the run but soft against the pass. See the logic?
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
does anybody know how much cap room we still have
almost all these moves had to have something to do with cap space. Maybe a free up for another big move next year. I see alot of band-aids going up now. Yes we are rebuilding and it is a process and takes time, but we are kinda moving slow, IMO. We do have a very soild team this year. A good QB Good RBs, Great WR and 4more good ones.If Henne steos up we have a chance barring injury. D is the question, JO will play soild for a rookie, KD will be great, CB and Backfield is the worry, but we will see in time. !game should go over easy buit the true test comes quick after that. Hope we get a gut check and everybody steps up all the way around
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But hopefully they are keeping a good eye on how it will look in future years when there is one again.
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But teams are getting rid of their contracts now that there is no penalty.
Last year if we released these players we would have gotten cap penalties.
wow Duh my bad , i get the Dumd ass prize today
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by 21Dave on Sep 6, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Man, that's hilarious!
You should put that quote in your signature.
wow Duh my bad , i get the Dumd ass prize today
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I'm on it
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LIAR!
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm earning it today
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It happens to all of us at some point.
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told you I was getting old last night
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LOL Well then what does that make me?
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better just better
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LOL I don't know about that but for sure older.
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... nothing like a dumb old guy...
LOL!
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LOL... no... not really...
… I’m with ya!
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here we go again sigh!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 8, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not as good as his brother Dan
But he’ll do.
Laces out!
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funny
Jared Odrick 6-5 304 DL & Tim Dobbins 6-1 246 ILB & Koa Misi 6-3 251 LOLB
Brandon Marshall 6-4 230 WR; John Jerry 6-5 328 LG; AJ Edds 6-3 247 LILB
Nolan Carroll 5-11 204 CB & Rashad Jones 6-1 214 S; Chris McCoy 6-3 244 ROLB; Austin Spitler RILB 6-2 243; Pet Cat:Chris "He's the REAL" McCoy 6-3 244
So how many carpenters does it take to win a Super Bowl
hopefully just two
Jared Odrick 6-5 304 DL & Tim Dobbins 6-1 246 ILB & Koa Misi 6-3 251 LOLB
Brandon Marshall 6-4 230 WR; John Jerry 6-5 328 LG; AJ Edds 6-3 247 LILB
Nolan Carroll 5-11 204 CB & Rashad Jones 6-1 214 S; Chris McCoy 6-3 244 ROLB; Austin Spitler RILB 6-2 243; Pet Cat:Chris "He's the REAL" McCoy 6-3 244
unless you're the browns
then they need one more: jesus. lol
Laces out!
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Speaking of Buckeyes
UM @ OSU on Saturday!!! That’ll be a nice lead into NFL’s Opening Sunday! I’ll be staying up late to watch Miami vs Ohio State and Penn State vs Alabama. This is going to be a great weekend.
Yeah its going to be a crazy football weekend.
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Yep
Especially when UM wins! Sorry OFF4L, had to do it! If UM, PSU, and the Dolphins it will be an outstanding weekend.
I have to agree with you. I could care less about Penn but anytime Bama looses we all win.
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Well...
That is a double victory. As much as I hate Nick Saban and will always root against him, I am a fan of PSU because that’ was my school.
Well then that makes sense.
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Penn States going down...
Trent Richardson and Julio Jones all day…. I just don’t see a true freshman walking into BDS and winning…. I do respect the school and their fans though… Always been classy people when I’ve talked to them..
It's better to keep your mouth shut and make people think your dumb, then to open it and remove all doubt..
Driving the Draft McClain Train....
I use to like you ! LOL.....
I guess you got that info from your magic 8 ball……..
Florida lookout !!!! Here I come !!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Sep 6, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Don't lie. You still like him.
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You're right,......
Takes a whole lot more than that seiing as I’ve heard it all before……
You guys should walk a mile in my shoes sometime,…..it can be a trip.
Florida lookout !!!! Here I come !!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Sep 6, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Either way Saturdays game is going to be good.
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Watching the Buckeyes in Buffalo while Being Bombarded by Budweisers by beautiful barmaids with Big bOObs !!!
Florida lookout !!!! Here I come !!!!
by Ohiofinfan4life on Sep 6, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
braggart
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Nobody can get the truth out of me because even I don't know what it is. I keep myself in a constant state of utter confusion. -- Col. Flagg
Jealous
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That doesn't start with B?!
I’m on the side of true love…and a good running game.
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LOL Nothing gets by Tuna.
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This doesn't say much about the confidence they had in the players they had put on this team,
since we are releasing so many of them for other teams cast offs.
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Next Tuesday might could see some back.
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Nobody can get the truth out of me because even I don't know what it is. I keep myself in a constant state of utter confusion. -- Col. Flagg
Possibly,
if they haven’t got other jobs like Martin did.
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by uncle finster on Sep 6, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Martin was a squirrel anyway....
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A flying squirrel, and he flew away, lol
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
well, there are multiple ways to spin it
the bottom half of this roster has been constantly churning since the trifecta took over. It could be less about a lack of confidence than about a reflection of the the regime’s philosophy about how to manage a roster, i.e., that the bottom half should always be in flux.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 6, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That is not the blue print for good teams,
because good teams fill their roster with guys they like, and on good teams there is usually only 5 or 6 new players, because they have the guys they like, lol.
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by uncle finster on Sep 6, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think maybe they like the guys they have because they are good
rather than the other way around:)
As long as the starters stay consistent, I don’t think it hurts the chemistry of the team to look for upgrades in special teams/backups. And, all other things being equal, you want your depth to be young, because it allows for the possibility that they may become starters at some point.
Don’t get me wrong—I have plenty of concerns about this team, more perhaps than I did when camp started, but Charlie Anderson or Charles Grant or Douglass are not among them. The term replacement level players exists for a reason.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 6, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Every move is unique unto itself though, wouldn't you agree?
So just to plainly say what happened, 2 proven NFL vets who were playing well for us were dropped for 2 unproven cast offs from teams in worse shape than us. That is undeniably a questionable move that could definitely hurt us, we have no reliable depth at DE now.
Picking up a 5th ILB for our only back up WLB is also questionable, how do they affect the team, who knows, but it is certainly questionable.
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by uncle finster on Sep 6, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say McDaniel and Starks are reliable
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not as a backup DE as our roster is currently configured.
He’s the starting noseguard. He’s a terrific DE, but I don’t think you can count him as depth at that position.
As Urbino said,
Starks is our starting NT, he is not in the DE rotation so McDaniel is the only proven depth, and he was behind Merling last year.
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by uncle finster on Sep 6, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think Starks doesnt move back to end if Langford or Odrick go down?
Like it or not he is depth at end for us. Just like Berger is depth at guard even if he starts for us
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Soliai at NT? i like it
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I think he does.
But I don’t think you can count that as depth, because he can only play one position at a time. If he moves to DE, then we’re thin at NG. Either way, we’re thin somewhere along the D-line; it’s just a question of where you want to count people.
It's not about if someone gets injured,
its the ROTATION, guys have to come in and spell other guys, Starks can’t play NT and DE at the same time, use the grape.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the FO feels confident with McDaniels now.
more so than before and would rather develop a guy they wanted in the draft and another guy they’ve had their eye on?
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Yep
McDaniel is a good player which is why we let Douglas go. The bad thing on releasing Grant is it put ALOT of pressure on Odrick to get to the QB. Then how important is it for your 3-4 ends to get pressure.
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly it is a youth vs. age thing in a spot where you can develop guys
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I agree Finster. I don't understand getting Carpenter.
Look at it this way. Carpenter was a #1 draft pick who couldn’t crack the starting lineup for a team in need of a ILB. The Cowboys signed an over the hill Zach Thomas instead of Carpenter. The Cowboys signed an over the hill Keith Brookings instead of Carpenter.
Carpenter is not a good player. I don’t get the signing.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And if the way he played last year is what you consider "over the hill" then I want all of our LB's to play like they are over the hill then.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 6, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Atlanta thought he was over the hill and let him walk. He signed a 3 year deal with the Cowboys for $6 million.
That’s peanuts. What that contract says is that noboby wanted him and he took a minimum offer. Why would nobody want him? Because many considered him not a very good player yet he was someone that the Cowboys still wanted over Carpenter.
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or at the very least
they were willing to give someone 6 million dollars so they didn’t have to play carpenter, when they could have grabbed a young play at league min for the same spot… (had they thought anything of barbie)
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by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 6, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I get why Atlanta let him go and the reason he was not going to pull in
a huge salary was because of his age. I get that but the bottom line is that he is still playing at a very high level.
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Carpenter was brought in for those guys on 3rd down because they were so bad in coverage
Were not asking him to be a starter for us. Were asking him to play to his strengths which are solid ST’s play and strong coverage
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Now there is no backup WLB.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming Moses is Wake's backup now
even if the official depth chart doesn’t reflect it. Is Anderson a better player than Moses? I’m not sure, honestly. But I don’t believe Rose and Geathers are better than Grant and Douglas—but they are younger, and cheaper, and could maybe become better given some time to grow in this system—and if the difference between them isn’t that large, go with the younger, cheaper option and hope to develop them—as long as you are talking about backups, not starters.
And McDaniel was always going to be the primary backup anyway—he was fantastic in that role last season, and will be again.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 6, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Moses is a SLB, not a WLB.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
He's listed as such, yes--I said that
but you don’t think he would swing over to Wake’s spot should he go down, or need a rest? We have four outside backers. Acknowledging that Ike is the wrong skill set for the weak side, and that Koa is a rookie with enough on his plate, that seems to leave Moses as the default option.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 7, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude,
He is not a WLB, there is a different skill set, Moses is a runstopper, not a passrusher, we don’t have a WLB back up.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
who then, by your accounting, rushes the passer from the strong side if Wake goes down?
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 7, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
What???
Did you mean who rushes the passer from the weak side if Wake gets injured? Because that is exactly what I’m saying.
SLBs are runstoppers, WLBs are passrushers, if you can get some passrushing from your SLB ala Woodley, great, thats all gravy, but putting pressure on the QB is what the WLB is all about, and now we don’t have one to back up Wake.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
My bet would be that they would activate McCoy from the PS
Not saying its the best option, but IMO, its the likely option.
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And Misi has gotten some TC work at WOLB
He could move over to WOLB and IAF would stay at SOLB.
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You're right, but I worry about Misi having to learn both at once
And Moses has shown flashes of pass rushing ability, so I still think he is gonna be Wake’s backup.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Moses has shown some ability,
AS A SLB, lol, not as a WLB, there is a big difference.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed,
on both accounts, but we don’t need 5 ILBs and Carpenter is not a good LB, Ploughboys got rid of him and the Lambs cut him, lol, yes thats right, the Lambs cut him, I would trade 2 Carpenters for 1 Anderson as our team is currently configured.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Well the Cowboys traded him to the Rams for a LT
And the Rams have no clue about player evaluation. They cut Will Witherspoon in the middle of the season last year and he went to the Eagles and made an immediate impact. I take this as Crowder is hurt worse than we know and Dobbins is either hurt or ineffective or both.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
True, but he's only going to have a minor role on the Dolphins
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What I'm really interested in seeing is how Micah Johnson plays
He seems to be a great run stuffing ILB and should rack up some tackles. If he develops well, I can see us cutting ties with Crowder next season and having Dansby, Johnson, Edds, and Dobbins as our 4 ILBs.
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I think that once Crowder comes back we will
let one go.
Carpenter: Replacement for IR’d Edds. and just traded for. not going.
Micah: Went through all this touble to keep him, why get rid of him now?
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This leaves one guy. Can anyone guess who that is? (hint: he might play his way into keeping on the team)
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or get a guy off of another PS.
that way we have two young potential pass rushes
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
oops, hit enter too soon:)
…that’s why i said that about Ike having the “wrong skill set for the weak side.”
Moses, IMO, has the skill set to move over. That’s what I’m saying.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I would have to strongly disagree,
his strong suit is runstopping, it isn’t a secret, he NEVER lines up on the weak side, he is a runstopper.
Regardless, Anderson was much better at WLB.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
he was better, no doubt
I never argued that the move wasn’t a head scratcher. But they obviously had some sort of a plan—their isn’t a single position without some sort of contingency plan.
I guess we’ll just have to disagree over what the nature of that plan at WLB is. And hope to never find out:)
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 7, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
lol, dude,
Wake can’t play every down, we WILL find out in the first game, no getting around that.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
depends if you like the bull rush and
power moves (moves that need a lot of strength) vs. only a speed rush (CA has no moves)
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IAK
IAK is currently the backup for Misi, but if we lost Wake for an extended period of time I would not be surprised to see IAK work from that side of the field. The Dolphins like his pass rush and he may even play on that side when Wake takes a snap off.
IAK is not a WLB.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
IAK
I would not be surprised to see him on that side of the field if needed. The staff appears to be infatuated with his ability.
Yes they do,
as a SLB, this is a converted DT, he in no way shape or form is a WLB, lol, just sayin.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
*DE
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DE/DT
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
he is a pass rusher
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lol, is that why he works exclusively as a SLB,
is that why Sparano was just talking about his ability to play the run being why he made the team, lol
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't use speed, he uses a mix, and since he is
also a good runstuffer, his skill set says SOLB with the ability to play WOLB.
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We have quite a few guys that don't know our system now too. ;^J
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I thought CA wouldn't make it
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wow - this is starting to smell like
mr ross is worried about cash flow… and wants to get his guaranteed operating expenses down in case it doesn’t improve…
there is no way that barbie carpenter is better then charlie anderson – even if they have to IR CC and need a back-up ILB….
heck resigning e walden likely would have been a better option…. it smells kind of funny when you pick up guys the RAMS cut.
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that's not a smart way of looking at things
How good is St. Louis at evaluating talent? How good are they at roster management? 1-15 good
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this kind of supports my case
dallas doesn’t like the guy and gives him away… (and dallas is pretty good at that evaluation thing)
he arrives in st louis… and low and behold he can’t beat out the poor level of talent there…..
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by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. Dallas is pretty good at talent evaluation and gives up on him. Spagnola, a Super Bowl winning DC, gives up on a former #1 draft pick ILB.
Seems like a good signing to me now that I think about it! =)
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yeah but what do you really know
about talent evaluation …. after all you are the guy
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who says polite is the 2nd best offensive player on the phins…
so maybe i need to rethink this one.
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Like players haven't turned it around before?
Who says a player can’t turn it around after being released from another team because they couldn’t crack the final 53 man unit? Plenty of players have turned it around from other teams. If other teams scraps could never become good players, Wes Welker never wouldn’t have turned into a great player when Miami got him off the Chargers’ practice squad. Same goes for Greg Camarillo. I’m not saying Carpenter is going to turn into some great LB, but I do think there is a chance he can be an adequate depth LB and special teams player.
Another reason to not believe he can’t be decent because the Rams dumped him is the Dolphins play a much different defense than STL does.
not going to argue about a player turning things around
but you dump a BETTER player to sign this guy who has failed in 2 locations now….
it’s one thing to hope someone turns it around, but quite another, to weaken your team on the hope that the guy you sign turns things around and improves at least to the point where he is equal, production wise, to the player you cut.
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by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 7, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
CA was a pass rusher that had trouble disengaging from blockers.
literally, all the moves he possessed is running around the OT.
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And now we have no one else to do that.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
that is not a good WOLB
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He was our best WLB besides Wake, end of story.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
that just shows you lack of depth
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And now we have less depth, lol, ?????
And thats good how???
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Another possibility
Miami is preparing for the return of the salary cap next season and are trying to dump heavier contracts now to avoid the penalties, thus allowing Miami more salary cap space when it returns.
not really
any of these contracts could be terminated at any point during this season without effecting any potential cap…
however per the CBA that they are currently operating under …. if the player is on the roster for game 1 then that players contract is guaranteed for the current year….
so this doesn’t come across as planing for next season but for making sure if they need to reduce payroll in a hurry they can.
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by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 7, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
The reason why them trying to save money is not the case
If they were busy trying to save money in the first place, they likely would have never signed them in the first place.
I would not be suprised to see Stark at end sometimes when PS is in at NT
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And he doesn't get a breather?? lol
He will be playing NT now, he will need more breathers now then before.
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by uncle finster on Sep 7, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
lets frame this another way
bobby carpenter = t ginn on defense….
maybe marshall will let bobby have #19 in an effort to exorcise the dropitis that has plagued him since the start of camp.
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