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Tyler Thigpen might be much more than a 3 string QB for the Dolphins!!

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Hi there, my nickname is Aldaran and this is my first post so I hope you like it.

First of all I would like to say that I have been a dolfan all my life and I wish the best for our Phins this season as always. Ok, let’s begin.

As you know since Dan Marino retired from the team before the 2000 season the Miami Dolphins have been more than far to get a Franchise QB and I have to say also a decent QB. Our best shot at recent years was Henne. Now I’m not sure about that.  I have to say that I had some hope about Henne when he was drafted just as questions in other areas. First of all the Pros of Henne:

1. - The greatest value of Henne is his arm strength: I was at the stadium that October 13, Monday night, VS the JETS when he made that huge bomb to Ted Ginn Jr. That throw made a big statement of his rocket arm.

2. - He is some kind of cold attitude: Few times you see Henne smiling after a good throw or frustrating after an interception. He will be quiet and go out the field like nothing happened. That shows stability to the teammates.

3. - He has the body and height that allow him to perform well at the position: Height/Weight: 6-3/230 I need to say more?

Now, the points that makes me unconfident about Henne

1. - He has a lot of trouble to make the easiest throws: The short ones, Why? Because he put a lot of power to that passes. That explains the low rate of complete/attemps and the drops form players like Brandon Marshall and Brian Hartline in this preseason in some way. Also even that he has that rocket arm HE DONT USE IT  as much as he should to make the long throws!! I think he lacks of confidence at some times about his accuracy or at least that seems to be the case to me.

1.2- He doesn’t have a touch ball throw at all. 95% of his throws are bullets or in the best case rocks. That makes pretty difficult to receivers to make some  catches and for him to evade the middle LBs because his bullets are in straight line instead of parabolas that would evade the middle field and hits the target up field.

2.-He need to improve his movement in the pocket and also his speed: I know that his job isn’t running but sometimes the circumstances require it and you need some wheels if you want to escape those LBs.

3.-As good it can be that he is quiet the other face of the coin is that he is not much of a leader: He is very gray at times. Yes, we all have heard the interviews with the players and their opinions to the media about Henne embracing his leadership role. But you know what? you can’t lie to the camera.  You can’t see a sparkle that fires up the other players in the huddle or in the sidelines like the one that has Pennington or even close.

Now I think that Henne has a lot to work before I can see him as our Franchise QB and that makes me sad. But if you accept the facts and accept the reality then it also opens another door. Have you seen these past preseason games? Did you see how good was our 3 QB Tyler Thigpen? I mean WOW Tyler Thigpen made some really good throws out there even when the O-line was struggling so much and his receivers don’t had the caliber of  Brandon Marshall or Davone Bess. He showed to all of us that he can compete for the first JOB. And I’m really serious about this. Here are my thoughts about Thigpen from what I saw of him at KC, vs Pittsburg last year, and this preseason.

TYLER THIGPEN PROS

1. - Strong Arm: Guess what? Henne is not the only QB with a strong arm Thigpen also has it and better than that he use it for the long shots not the close ones!!

2.-He can run: Some of us wanted to see Pat White because he can run and throw the ball in the Wild Cat, right?  Well Tyler Thigpen run very well, he is FAST and at times looked like a RB when he run uphill against the area of LBs. No fear there.

3.-He has touch ball throws: He just has a good combination between bullets and touch passes. Very nice throws at the run also.

4.-He is a fighter and will make comebacks as he should if he want to be a starter: In different situations we have appreciate the ability of Thigpen to manage the offense to come from back of the score. Vs Dallas we lose but what a drive Thigpen did and also his 15 point in the 4 qrtr. If he had to run because the line struggles he ran and looking good. If he had to take a shot and eat the ball to keep hpe a live he did, and if he has the game at his hands just a 2 or less minutes to end the game He MAKES A GOOD THROW IN THIGHT COVER and put our team in defense in position to defend and win the game. Not like the interception in the red zone of Henne vs Atlanta.

BAD FOR THIGPEN

Fearless runner: He run many times and expose himself to much. Maybe it has something to do with the bad protection of the line or maybe he likes to run a little bit either way he can be hit and hit hard and be on the injury reserve, not good if its your starting QB.

Now for the people that starts asking. Why he is a 3 QB if you think he is that good? Well first of all Henne is D project isn’t? Since the second pick in the draft of 2008 he is the dream of all Dolfans but he still is a promise after 2 years. A promise that doesn’t looks good in preseason and didn’t do anything huge or near to that the last season 2009. At this time the trifecta of Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano have made some bad choices in the drafts like the most clear one PAT WHITE so accepting another one at the position of QB is kind of hard for these men. The media will eat them and maybe their jobs would be affected too. But this trifecta also saw some talent in Thigpen that’s the reason they brought him to the TEAM for a pick of a future draft to KC so maybe they are starting to realize that Henne isn’t the answer. Now Pennington is the 2 QB because his experience and he wouldn’t accept a 3 string at QB Penningtons leader ship and wisdom are hard to deny so they had to put Thigpen in 3 spot even if he looked better on the field.

All of these characteristics make me a believer of Tyler Thigpen I think Tony Sparano and his staff should take some risk at playing Thigpen in the first spot in the first games of the season and Henne as backup. We all know what Henne can do. The worst that can happen is that Tyler do it bad in the first pair games and you change for Henne. What we can win? a franchise QB. The guy has proven on the field he can do it. If you don’t bet you don’t win. Well that’s my opinion I would like to hear your thoughts I really appreciate your time for reading my post, see ya!!

 

ALDARAN

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by Blaze453 on Sep 3, 2010 3:46 AM EDT reply actions  

i know squat....however i do not know msquat.....what is msquat??

>>>>>hey alex…..i appreciate your evaluation……i think thigpen can be exciting to watch as well…. however, we cant truly judge henne or thigpen completely on preseason alone…..

if anyone deserves the nod instead of henne…..its pennington…..all he did tonite was come in, lead his team down the field……while getting knocked down and taking heat from the cowboys pash rush the whole series….by running, throwing quick screens to avoid the rush and eventually putting his team in the endzone without risk of turnover…..seemingly effortlessly, all the while coaching henne on his way back to the bench…….that is success…….pennington may even be in a position to either salvage our season or take our team to the promised land if need be……i wouldnt trust thigpen to be able to do that…..not yet

if a few games go by and henne fails to get us in the endzone……then there will questions to be answered……until then he is the one we will continue to groom…….as the future

thigpen is good insurance for our depth and for any trade possibilities……..thats it…….unless we have injuries to both henne and pennington……..he sure has made for an exciting preseason though……and his reps and chemistry with the second and third team guys helped get a good look at marlon moore and roberto wallace who i really hope make the team…….even though i have been rooting for pat turner

having thigpen on our roster certainly gives us confidence that if the worst should happen we are deep enough to make a decent season out of it…….and you never know we might need his value during the season…..just like we did with greg camarillo……..and look what popped up in his place…..#14……….

so you never know……..

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by MagicDolphin on Sep 3, 2010 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

See that coming

Hi, first of all I want to thank you guys for reading my post. Before I wrote it I knew that this topic was particularly hard for us to comment because I am questioning the most important position of our Team but please remember that I’m just a fan trying to see the best opportunities for the team not a general manager or a coach so you can be easy on mind (for the ones that go and try to rip my head off lol). I know Henne will start the season. Ok? I just want to say a short point here: It is not so ridiculous the idea to compare Henne VS Thigpen I mean if you see the stats of both players they have a similar start in the league. Both of them entered the season as backups and didn’t play the full season and if some of you guys have the opportunity to watch the game of KC VS MIAMI of DECMBER 21, 2008 you will see more clearly my point. The guy has real talent, not backup talent. In his first opportunity at KC in 11 starting games he threw 230/420 for 2,608 Yds 18 TDs 12 Int and 386 yds, 3 TD running. And don’t forget that KC had and has serious problems at many parts of the team. Henne in his first year 13 Games starting 274/451 2,878 Yds 12TDs and 14 Intc and run for 32yds and 1TD. So, as you can see, it is not that ridiculous, right? Please search for the game KC vs MIAMI and take again a look, just for curiosity. Well thanks guys I’ll be reading your posts. See ya!

by Alejandro Parrao on Sep 3, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...maybe Tony Gonzalez either

Just before Tony Gonzalez was traded to the Atlanta Falcons he said to the press “It would be a disgrace if they don’t (keep Thigpen as the starting quarterback),” Gonzalez told to ESPN .“We’ve been playing well since he came in…I could see this being a playoff team next year. I could see us turning it around.” and that opinion coming from an outsanding TE as Tony says a lot of Tyler Thigpen as QB and a leader.

by Alejandro Parrao on Sep 8, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The WR job is to catch it, if it hits them in the hands

no matter how it is thrown. A fast ball gets to the WR quick and doesn’t allow the D to adjust, maximizing potential YAC yards, i wonder why we might try to do that?

Thiggy throws too many INTs at inopportune times. Thiggy has an arm more like Sanchez, accurate, but not the strongest. Thiggy isn’t that great of a runner.

Henne has shedded some sacks this year, so i don’t see a problem. Henne is a leader, he made a huge halftime speech one game last year and we came from behind to win it I believe.

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by PotM on Sep 3, 2010 5:33 AM EDT reply actions  

^^^ This

I have never heard anyone complain about the velocity that Brett Favre has always thrown the ball to his receivers. As a matter of fact, there is always a statement like, “His receivers have to adjust to that”… “The receivers had better get used to catching those”

Its not Henne’s fault he gets the ball there quick, thats a skill set few have.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

Henne was robotic with his throws last year. Practically every throw he made was a bullet. Which is no surprise that he has trouble throwing touch passes. Sure the receivers job is to catch whatever but if you want to be a great QB you have to learn to throw catchable balls.
Brett Favre on the other hand has touch. There is a reason why wherever he goes he makes the receivers better. Sure he has a strong arm but he knows when to use it. Hell Joe Flacco is another guy with a big time arm and he has no issues with his guys.

Their velocity is not the problem, its the touch

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by Deuce Black on Sep 3, 2010 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Favre's receivers, including the current crop in Minnesota

have historically talked about the velocity of his passes….and they needing to adjust to it.

Henne will develop the touch over time, but I don’t care who you are…if the ball is hitting you in the hands, you catch it.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if Henne ever will develop touch on his passes.

There have been a lot of QB’s with Henne’s skill set drafted into the NFL and have failed. It takes more to playing QB at a high level than a rifle for an arm.

Watching him this preseason and reading a quote from John Clayton in his QB rankings is starting to make me wonder about Henne. The quote (paraphrase) was that toward the end of last year defenses had figured Henne out. I thought Atl did a good job of defensing him last week. I haven’t been able to watch the Dal game yet, but when you hear and read that he couldn’t get into a rythym I think that you have to give the defense some credit. Has Henne been figured out? I guess we will see next week.

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by ct1361 on Sep 3, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but its way too early to call Henne a Jeff George type QB.

I doubt we’ll even know by next Week.
He’s going to be a roller coaster QB. He’s going to have Huge Highs, and he’s going to have huge lows.

First full season as a starter…. he’s still a young developing QB. To expect him to be Marino, Elway, or even CP10 at this stage of his career isn’t fair to Henne. None of those guys were even those guys at this stage.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason the FO keeps Penne is to coach up Henne

He has less exp in NFL games then Sanchez, how good is Brian Brohm right now. Matt Ryan has been playing from the get go and still had his ups and downs last year like most rookies do. His attributes are there, give it time. There should be no QB controversy.

by pj521 on Sep 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is ..

that Thigpen have 1 more year than Henne and ALDARAN was trying to point out that Thigpen is more develop than Henne, cause he has touch and a riffle, can run and havent been figured out by defenses.
BTW ALDARAN, Thigpen have a reception for TD in that same season ; )

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by Aleta on Sep 7, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So let me get this straight?

Howitzer for arm + Good decision maker that is going to improve as he gets older + very good accuracy, but has the occasional wtf? pass = draft failure?

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Sep 3, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

You’re going to always have to adjust in the NFL. But once again regardless of what they said about his arm strength it didn’t affect their receiving core negatively in anyway, it only made them better.
Also Receivers get paid millions to catch the ball, I never disputed that fact that’s their job and they need to do it

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by Deuce Black on Sep 3, 2010 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't anyone see

the touchdown pass to fasano during the jags game? That game alone showed me that Henne has been working on his touch passes

by phillyphinsphan7 on Sep 3, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope...

Scientific Fact. You’ll always remember the bad, before you remember the good.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

If you’re suggesting that thigpen should get the starting job over Henne, then you’re wasting your time.
This will be Henne’s first full season as the starter, give him time. Did I mention the trifecta like him? You can’t be switching quarterback all the time, Henne needs to develops and it takes time.
I know thigpen is exciting to watch and make some nice throws every once in awhile but he’s our back up and will remain there.
I agree with the last post who said that Pennington would play after Henne and over Thigpen.

by thewildcat23 on Sep 3, 2010 6:02 AM EDT reply actions  

The trifecta did LIKE PWhite too lol

But deff, Henne is the starter.
Hope we win our 1st game or hell will turn this page upside down lol

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by Aleta on Sep 7, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

henne

shouldn’t have leadership abilities.

you’re not a four year starter and michigan and have questionable leadership.

everything else seems reasonable to question, though lets wait and see how he does this season as a starter. though results may not come in one off season, he’s a hardworker and it will come. at the absolute worst he’s an average qb.

by berryyyy on Sep 3, 2010 6:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Do u think the trifecta will be alright

with a 6-10 record at the end of the year? with Henne at the helm?
Remember, ownership said we where going to the SB.

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by Aleta on Sep 7, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn’t have leadership abilities

i mean’t

shouldn’t be questioning his leadership abilties

by berryyyy on Sep 3, 2010 6:17 AM EDT reply actions  

hey aldaran

i agree i dont think henne should be our starter either to me he still doesnt know how 2 read the field that well and also i dont see any improvement on his touch passes i think we need penny

by Ph1nAt!c on Sep 3, 2010 7:13 AM EDT reply actions  

^^ this

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by MainePhinFan on Sep 3, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we pull Henne for CP10

Then we can start scouting college QBs that we will be drafting in 2011.

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by The Earl on Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Locker? If we completly tank the season, which I doubt happens.

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would we want another failed USC QB?

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

USC?

Dude from Wisconsin or where ever is what I’m talking about. The purple people eater uniform school is who I’m talking about. The next Steve Young or whatever they are predicting. You know who I’m talking about the guy that stayed for another year instead of heading into the draft he would of been picked first if he went.

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

University of Washington

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by The Earl on Sep 3, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

that one

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doh! Who am I confusing him with then??? crap...

The guy who stayed in school, despite possiblily being a top pick last year…
yeah that guy.

They’ve predicted a lot of “next Steve Young’s” :) lol, so who knows.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

true but he does look good

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should of just got Jamarcus Russell or Matt Leinart

they both played pretty bad and never improved after a few years. Henne has shown he’s better than both of them already.

by pj521 on Sep 3, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really MPF? C'mon....

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.. I was just going to say..

et tu?

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it the Ides of September already?

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It must be.

It’s a terrible time of the year. People are far too over-anxious to function and reason as normal human beings.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a product of 2 things...

a) the Madden Generation….
b) Being anxious to get the REAL season started….

in a sense you can’t fault them…. but sometimes you gotta take a deep breath, and look at things objectively.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

a) makes me shake my head on a daily basis.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Madden realized his namesake video game

was causing the collective football IQ of fans to drop like this, he’d probably stop letting them use his name.

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by The Earl on Sep 3, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only that were the only issue with that generation.

I thought my generation was full of idiots but alas………………………………

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

The Baby on Board gen?

What?

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I think that was the generation before me. I remember seeing

those signs when I was still in school.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the kids that I would've had

would I of had kids.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 3, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes. Of course.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL So you hate at least half the people on this site?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Not even gonna fudge it, I do.

by Farorefox on Sep 3, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL so you hate me, Nicky, MHTD, Chrislucas, Wecho, Beaver, ect?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

dam thats some hate right there

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Yeah and thats a short list for sure. There are more Canes fans here than not.

I notice he has not confirmed or denied his hate for us as of yet.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might start crying especially after our world of warcraft bonding moment

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well better to know your enemies right up front.

And besides me and Chris will still always have your back.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank goodness

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf Maine you too?

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you the same person who thinks Smith sucks?

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats him.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think so

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Sep 3, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Sep 3, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Sep 3, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

best 3rd string QB - McGee

um, the best 3rd team QB on the field last night was McGee. He did a number on our first team defense. Thigpen struggled until Dallas got down to their 3rd team defense at the end. All the talk about trading Thigpen and getting a high pick is just talk. Thigpen is at best a middle 1/3 3rd team QB in the NFL. McGee is at the high end of 3rd team QBs and would easily be a #2 on many clubs. While he can make some nice throws he can also make some bad ones and, as he did last night, has a tendency to throw up a prayer every now and then that ends up getting picked.

by phinswnc on Sep 3, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Lets just hope

Agree with most of the post and combining the positives of both would be an easy answer. Though Henne has no touch and a very disappointing preseason, he should remain our starter, unless we suffer early losses resulting from his ineffectiveness. Right now, I honestly foresee troubling flaws via Henne.

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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 3, 2010 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Aldaran (is that a Star Wars reference?) lol

Welcome to the board, I hope you stick around and continue to post your opinions. Very well thought out post, and put together very nicely.

I completely 100% disagree, and think your a insane if you are actually attempting to promote Thigpen ahead of Chad Henne, but it was still put together nicely.

Henne is the starter for a number of reasons.
  1) He did enough as a rookie to make the Trifecta decide to tell the QB that had just won the division (Pennington) that he was going to be replaced in a years time.
  2) Henne has proven that he can not only Win in this league, but that he also has a knack for driving the team down and scoring when behind in the fourth quarter. A 4th quarter comeback is a big deal, as it may be the the hardest time to score in the entire game. He did it 4 times in first year on the field as a starter.
  3) Thigpen has been facing #2 and #3 defenses all preseason long. So despite the fact he continues to drive down the field, remember who he’s going up against.
  4) Thigpen is a better insurance option. Remember, we got him for a 5th round pick, because his old team that he was the starter on, didn’t think he could do it. And, noone else in the league offered more than a 5th round pick to get him.

Madden fans need to stop calling for a QB controversy. There is none. There won’t be one at all this season. QB controversies are created by the media and by fans that don’t understand the game, in most cases.

and mostly….MY GOD PEOPLE, WAIT UNTIL THE GAMES COUNT!

Some fans flip more often then any democrat I’ve ever seen….. insanity.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd have to agree with Fr8T. I'm not a local Floridian and I did miss this game, but I do record the replays on the NFL Network.

So far from what I’ve seen from Henne has been nothing, but consistance and stellar play, with the exception of last weeks pick in the endzone. (gotta see the LB)
People are forgetting that Henne is only in his 3rd year and also people seem to forget that this is usually the earliest a QB would see the field back in the old days, with the exception of few who are now in the HOF. Ever since Big Ben was placed into the fire and succeeded are we seeing this new thought proceess from coaches of throwing these guys in the fire early and as the Big Tuna likes to put it “see if the puppies can bite”.
I believe Henne will do fine, if not great. I’ve seen him grow a bit each year. He’s learing from one the best and underated QB in the game and has his same work ethic. He’s not making stupid plays and he’s going through his progressions good. Sure he’ll miss the open guy downfield on occassions, it’s all part of learning. As long as he’s not stupid with the ball and continues to drive us down the field I’m happy with that.
Just remember, WR need to catch, penalties stop drives, the O-line needs to pre -vail, the R and R express needs to start rolling again and it’s PRESEASON.
To be honest I don’t care if he’s not great as long as he’s better than Sanchize and we beat the F*&% out of the Jets, I’ll be happy. Oh by the way welcome to the grewatest Dolphins blog site on the Internet.

by D0lphins4Life on Sep 3, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

As you know usually I agree with you Fr8 but this time.. I gotta ask you a question or 2..

Do you not see henne is HORRIBLE at med range touch passes? I have seen a few and it bothers me.. you? Also Henne does have read issues reading the play and his receivers. Not a series goes by that I dont scream “stop staring down your receiver!!” Also you have to admit Hennes “wind up” makes him take more sacks then he should. Maybe its just me compairing him to Marino’s release.. but the Robot looks to need a new joint in that arm or something. Maybe some WD40? lol

Dont get me wrong.. I WANT Henne to be a quality QB and he does have a lot of up side.. but I dont think he is ready to win the starting job over a HEALTHY CP10.

As far as Thiggy goes his major issue I believe is decision to chuck it at times. That can be fixed… Henne’s windup is here to stay. Just as thought.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
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by MainePhinFan on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

no problem :) Let me address your questions hehe

Medium Range Touch Passes – Henne doesn’t float them in, you are correct. He’ll develop it over time, as he’s coached to do so. He zips them in there, simply because thats what he was coached to do in the past. Either way, the ball getting there fast is a good thing, and receivers will eventually adjust to it. There is a reason why Marshall pointed out that he finally has a QB that knows how to throw the ball…. But he does need to take a little off, but the receivers also need to adjust how they catch the ball. This is a give and take.

As far as staring down his receivers, he’s still got a way to go, but he’s made improvements. He’s still a young QB, he’s still developing his NFL skill set. He’s not going to have that veteran ability to look off a safety, that comes with experience, and he’s only had 13 starts in this league…. That skill will come with experience. Its frustrating, and we all want him to become immediately elite, but that typically doesn’t happen in the first couple years, as you know.

A Healthy CP10, is decent, but lets face it, he’s Ronnie Brown as a QB…. Good when you get him on the field, but keeping him on the field is a struggle.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 3, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

another point

Henne has been under a bit of pressure this preseason with the musical chairs at center/guard and the line not protecting plus the running game hasn’t been doing much. . It’s hard to look off safties and go through his progressions when the pocket is collapsing and he’s under constant pressure and when he does have time WRs are DROPPING the ball.

by yogibpimpin on Sep 3, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even the Ronnie Brown analogy

His throws look just like RB’s in the mere fact that they float. They have absolutely no zip on them anymore. They’re ducks, just waiting to be caught and cooked for dinner.

I don’t understand it. One day, we want Henne starting because we fully know and understand CP10 won’t take us to the promised land. The next, CH7 should be demoted before Tyler Thigpen (or even CP10, the same guy who wasn’t going to do it for us).

I’m starting to feel like every member on this board has PMS.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not saying to demote Henne.. Im just pointing out that the guuy has some serious issues thats all.

I dont mind the touch passes part.. but I think he is slow to read and he takes more sacks then needed because his throwing motion takes like.. 10 seconds to release the ball! lol Ok so ya.. not 10 seconds but damn sometimes it seems like it takes that long. lol He just has a horrible wind up and release and that worries me the most of all his flaws at this point.

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by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

he does still have some issues, no doubt.

But at this point of his NFL career, he’s far and away ahead of any other QB not named Pennington on the roster since Danny.

Well, maybe I’ll give you Fielder, just cuz he gets bad rap.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 5, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder was a good, not great, QB on a really bad offense, becaus eof the oline

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

A healthy CP10

is what we have, and he’s no longer a starting NFL QB.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really think so? I dont think he is 100% even if he says he is.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of QB's in the NFL right now that I would not take over CP10 at this moment.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thigpen is good....as a backup

The way I see it, Henne is the better quarterback than Thigpen as it stands right now. Also, he has more “upside” because of his pocket presence and most of all – his unbelievable arm strength. His main problem last year is that we had no one to throw to: Ginn couldn’t beat jams, and when he did he tended to drop it. Camarillo was a good possession guy but his game didn’t play to Henne’s strengths – throw power. Bess was a good receiver but again, he works out of the slot and was more of a moving-the-chains guy. Hartline was a rookie; good for a rookie and definitely showing flashes, but still showed signs of adjusting from NCAA to NFL.

With Brandon Marshall on the team, Camarillo gone, Ginn gone, and Marlon Moore added, we should see a lot more out of Henne. The addition of Marshall alone is going to show off Henne’s strengths, not to mention how much easier his job will be when Bess is open all day because of Marshall. Marlon Moore has great speed at our 4th WR spot, and who knows – he may be able to develop into a deep threat.

I think this is the year where we’ll really take the leash off of Henne and let him do his thing. We have the tools for him to do so, and I think by the time this season is over, we won’t be considering whether or not Pennington or Thigpen should be starting.

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by Dolphinole on Sep 3, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

He is a legit starter and has a good head on his shoulders.

I’m a chiefs fan and sick we got rid of him. All he did was score touchdowns.The team he started for with us was horrible,but he still managed 22 TD’s in 9 games.(passing,rushing and even 1 recieving.)

by J ray on Sep 3, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed - be performed well on a team that was not good

i too think the kid is a legit starter – but Henne is the guy for Miami and he should be.

by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 3, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the board...

nice write up, but I have to disagree for many of the same reasons listed above.
What if we traded places and had Thigpen start against the other teams #1’s and had Henne play against the backups.
I think you would be calling for Henne to start and saying that Thigpen was promising, but disappointing. especially if his stats were affected by all the drops from the #1 receivers.
Henne can improve if he is more aggressive in scrambling for positive yards (like Penne does) when protection breaks down or nobody is open. [something you do NOT want him doing in the preseason] and if he works on a more catchable jump ball on the fades to Brandon Marshall. go ahead and risk the interception, Marshall will get it for you. Other than that, Henne is fine. Just because Henne has room for growth and improvement does not mean he is a bad starting QB. It is not like its Rex Grossman out there.

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by DolphDallas on Sep 3, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree that Thigpen IS more than a 3rd string QB

I do agree with you on this point – I think Thigpen is a potential NFL starter. I really do – not high end Breees/Manning/Rivers/Brady range. But i beleive he can be in the Garrard/Orton solid but not spectacular starter range.

There is probably some guys that are going to start this year that he is at least equal to – Moore/Delhomme/Anderson/Edwards.- he might even be better than some of these guys.

By the same token I don’t think it will be with this team. Henne is the guy – and Henne should be the guy for this team.

I remember commentators saying that Marino didn’t make “touch” passes either. I agree Henne sometimes rifles passes that could be a little softer.

i think we all need to watch Henne play a full season as a starter (like an earlier poster suggested).

Henne deserves that opportunity – he’s earned it – I think once we see him play a full season and give this kid a full year of seasoning the Dolphins are going to have a solid strong QB with good leadership skills. I am not saying elite – I am saying I think Henne will be a good quality starting QB for the next 5-8 seasons.

by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll take Henne over Thigpen

Henne may not look very impressive during the preseason but there has been at least double digit drops throughout the preseason. Henne can’t catch the ball for the WRs sometimes he needs them to bail him out or at least make the dam catch. Hartline dropped that screen pass last night and it made me angry. Henne is our QB for a reason he took us from 0-3 to a shot at the playoffs last years in his first games as a starter. When the season starts and the games matter we will run the ball effectively and we will convert short first downs all game long. Bess and Henne had a couple impressive connection for us to look forward to. Please Phinsider family stop focusing on all the negatives and look at the positives. If Pennington and Thigpen were so much better than Henne they would be Franchise QBs some where but they’re not. Henne can manage a game and make the throws he has to make and that’s all we need him to do. WE DON"T NEED HIM TO BE MARINO TO WIN GAMES.

by yogibpimpin on Sep 3, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Thigpen over Henne....suuuuureeee...

how does this post even get taken seriously?

by Natalya on Sep 3, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Because the OP is new

TBH. Only reason.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now after last season I was preaching this.

But after watching and reading stuff on Henne I have to say I’m willing to watch Henne play this season before I bring up starting Thiggy again.

Henne has proved he deserves to start over Thigpen but I think if Henne can not produce to the expectations of everybody we should throw Thiggy in.

Ive been one of the biggest Thiggy advocates but again I’m willing to wait and see before I pass full judgement on Henne

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

But I do agree Thiggy can be a starter on a team.

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by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt Thigpen arleady have a shot at a starting QB job?

hmmmmm… and how did that workout?

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by Phin king on Sep 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ll take CP10 before thig

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.

by 54 on Sep 3, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No that you mention it ...i think he represented well considering what he was working with

18 TD passes versus 12 Ints.

almost 400 rushing yards and 3 rushing scores.

I am completely impressed with those numbers when you consider how bad that KC team was.

BTW KC put up 31 against MIami with Thigpen playing QB – they lost 38-31 but when you put up 31 you did your job as a QB – I gaurantee the Dolphins were impressed and thats why he is in Miami right now.

 

by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 3, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The piont is he couldnt get his team where they needed to be.

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by Phin king on Sep 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats not fair to put it all on the QB. Child please.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^ this

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not really a fair assessment

Thigpen was forced out by the regime change in KC. He didn’t really have a chance to compete once Cassel was brought in at that price.

by CNYdolfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

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by Phin king on Sep 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^ this

And I would take Thigpen over Castle any day.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

*Cassel

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I spent the week in Kansas City on business. Sports talk radio there is all excited about finally having a QB.

Matt Cassel is seen as a huge improvement over Thigpen in KC. They even went so far as to say that Brodie Croyle is a huge improvement over Thigpen. One caller into the ESPN affiliate that I listened too even said he was amazed that KC got a draft pick for Thigpen and credited the KC FO with a “steal” to get anything for the guy.

I don’t know if I agree or disagree, I’m just reporting what I heard because I was struck by how much people were negative about Thigpen’s play there.

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by ct1361 on Sep 3, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

lol that's funny!

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.

by 54 on Sep 3, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real question to those people who are so down on thigpen in KC is....

have they actually watched Cassell and/or Croyle play?!

Fickle nature of fans as usual

by Natalya on Sep 3, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brodie Croyle? dude that is funny.......

he wasn’t an upgrade of Damon Huard.

Cassel an upgrade over Thigpen??? – highly debatable -

QB rating in each QB’s single starting season for KC with similiar surrounding talent;
Cassel = 69.9
Thigpen = 76.0

i don’t know what the sports radio people in KC are smoking – apparently its fairly potent.

by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 4, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^ yuup

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm amazed how many people think we should trade Thigpen

Henne’s the starter until he proves differently.

 If we trade Thigpen, who do we have in the stable? A 2nd year qb who was barely able to make it into the preseason games and couldn’t complete a pass last year, and an aging qb who is injury prone and is possibly an injury away from retirement.

I enjoyed watching CP10 2 years ago as much as anyone but with this oline has been playing in the preseason, he has a good shot of being injured again if he is behind center for any extended amount of time.

by CNYdolfan on Sep 3, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yacee CNY, that thinking right there is why QB's retire befor there time. I told every one & there brother befor the draft that we need a center & what we get only the very best defence that we could & in a couple years it will rivel only the "85 bear's"

But now just haveing said that, we have a difisencie on the Oline. That needed to be adressed in the first rd. this year!
        Pouncy was the clear pick but……………………………………………..

wopper "the king" computer

by wild zion beaver on Sep 3, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one's for you, Deuce: smh.

Thigpen is a gunslinger. Obviously he’s going to look great at times, because when you’re that type of passer, you’re very hit-or-miss and you look awesome because you go for the big play and sometimes make it.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Id love to see more "gunslinger" at times with Henne.

I see team after team going deep constantly and we never go for more then 12 or 15 yard plays. Its sad to see the Cowboys backup QB lob a perfect pass in over Smiths hands (who was really in good coverage) for a long TD. We never see that in Miami and I see backup QB’s doing that all the freaking time.

Dont give me the “gotta have a burner to do that” crap either. I just saw the clip as I have not watched the game yet but who ever it was he was no faster then Sean Smith but the pass was PERFECT.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the site.

I think Thiggy has some things that are great for a back up but Henne will be fine. The guy has one year under his belt as a starter. Once him and Marshall begin to click its going to be lights out.

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Henne's decision making and touch passes have improved DRAMATICALLY

THERE IS NO QUARTERBACK CONTROVERSY!
He is DEADLY accurate, give him a full game to get into a rhythm…. last year he had a game with 17 STRAIGHT completions!
Thigpen is good but not a Bill Parcells quarterback…
you guys need to become Jets fans if you want a quarterback that is an emotional bi***
I like my quarterback to have ice in his veins.

"My ego is not that big. . . . I just want to win." - Dwyane Wade
Check out Mosul Dolfan's blog: An Observation on Sports

by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Or oil... since Henne is The Robot

aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ

by The Earl on Sep 3, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL You ok DIB?

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

"My ego is not that big. . . . I just want to win." - Dwyane Wade
Check out Mosul Dolfan's blog: An Observation on Sports

by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its going to be alright! Relax, if you have a beer go ahead and drink it. Soon all will be fine.

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya he was deadly accurate the other night when he missed Marshall by 5+ yards

Dont say deadly accurate.. its jut not true

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 4, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sammory?

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol sorry but when i see this stuff it gets me blood going. so i get excited and start typing like a crazy dude.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Sep 3, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Your ok. I will now actually go back and read it for ya.

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Riggity Recked!!!

"Real gangsta-a$$ ni**as don't flex nuts cause real gangsta-a$$ ni**as know they got'em"-Geto Boyz-
"I'm way too baked to drive to the devil's house."-Dante-
The official KS-22 clan leader!!! LaRon Byrd the next Phenom from the U!!!
"Feed the Wolf" -Tony Sparano - Wade County and the 3 Kings!!!

by Weecho85 on Sep 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

was you talken to me??

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Sep 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he wants to be friends.

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I SAID was you talken to me ;0P

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Sep 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be nice to the beav.

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

heheh trust me i am ALWAYS extra nice to the beav ;op

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Sep 3, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright.

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Sep 3, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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