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Not only was Braylon Edwards arrested...his razor also appears to be on strike.

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He is going for that terrorist look thats is a fad right now ! lol

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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Smh since when has the "terrorist" look been a fad?

you must live in the middle east…

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by Deuce Black on Sep 21, 2010 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you cant be serious with that comment

so anyone that has a beard must be classified as a terrorist look? So does that mean that Paul Bunyan and his Ox Babe (by association) were logging terrorists?

C’mon man, you dont have to think before you speak here…but at least think before you type.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 21, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not beards in general, it’s shaggy looking beards that look like birds live inside them and I’m sure he was just making a joke like my pic at the bottom

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but this type of comment fringes on the no religion/race/politics policy around here….something we work hard to try and leave out of discussions and debates.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 21, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t take it too seriously, no one else is

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is like saying

no one cares that your kid got ran over by a car other than you, so it shouldnt matter. I am not offended, but someone out there could have really been offended due to the poor wording. You and I know that it was a joke….but do those that only visit periodically know the same?

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is making a joke about a horrible looking beard religion/race/politics? cmon stop trying to start something that isnt there

Henne needs to step up
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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you missed the point.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

cmon now bro

look at that raggedy ass beard. Does he, or does he not, look like he just crawled out of a spider hole in the middle of the desert? I’ve seen plenty of peaceful muslims with large beards, they look they take care of it. Edwards looks like he’s spent 2 years hiding behind sand dunes..

by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL haha

Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by jdtman on Sep 22, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I dont think that beard looks that ragedy nicky…not like it is going in 10 different directions and I dont see any twigs or lint sticking out of it. But maybe, just maybe, that is where he was hiding his hip-flask all along!

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont put this on me

it was your ignorant mind that typed that he was going for a terrorist look based on his beard. You do understand some men in certain religions have beards like that based on their spiritual beliefs, right? But then again, I guess ignorance is bliss.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^^ this

Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus he was just joking. Have a sense of humor, damn!

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by AussieKen on Sep 21, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a sense of humor

but there are religions out there that men sport these kinds of beards…to insinuate that these are “terrorist beards” could be insulting to those individuals. Again, the golden rule around here is to leave out religion/race/politics…something a comment like this infringes on.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 21, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a reason why it’s not acceptable by society to wear a small mustache right below your nose. Michael Jordan caught heat for drawing comparisons to a Hitler mustache when you could easily just relate it to Charlie Chaplan. I see what you’re saying but no one is trying to insult anyone, just make fun of the Jest.

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big difference.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

had a sportscaster claimed in the middle of a broadcast that Jordan “looks like Hitler with that stache”, would that have been an acceptable comment? The difference between a comparison and an accusation are miles apart. I think you missed my point.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah Dragon...

what’s wrong with you, complaining about the rather obvious stereotyping?

Speaking from experience, raising such a point here is very likely to get you quickly pegged as a) having no sense or humor, b) being “overly sensitive”, or c) the only one who allegedly noticed anything wrong with the rest of phinsiderdom, seeing nothing wrong.

Been there, done that.

A bastion of enlightenment or cultural-social awareness, this isn’t…

by Natalya on Sep 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sad but true.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true Nat

and anyone that has been in a CKC with me knows I have a sense of humor….I just dont like the way the statement was phrased…I know it was in good humor, but it also pegged people into a certain light….

I see I opened a whole can o’ worms with this one ; )

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by Dragon27az on Sep 22, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL I have been there too.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agreed

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by snook36 on Sep 21, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Alpha6 on Sep 21, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think hes talking about the assumption that anyone that looks like that is

automatically a terrorist.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really but he really does look like he could be hiding a bomb in that thing.. just saying.. lol

Henne needs to step up
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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if you find branding an entire religious group in a certain manner based

on a look that is in fact often based in religion then I guess its not a big deal. Having a lot of experience working with both practicing Muslims and fighting against actual terror threats to our country I have a different view all together. These things are in fact hurtful to a very productive segment of our population and since you never know who is who here perhaps thats something that we should all keep in mind while throwing around careless comments. Just my opinion.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's the thing

a “traditional muslim looking beard” doesn’t look shitty and dirty and fucked up.. A “terrorist who lives in a cave in the desert” beard looks like ass..

Which of those best describes Edwards mess?

by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not true. I am not going to get in to an entire long explanation

of the many different divisions in the Muslim religion or other religions like the Sikh’s that in fact have that sort of beard but thats just not factual.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I think you guys are making a huge deal out of absolutely nothing

he didn’t say Edwards looked muslim, he said he looked like a terrorist. It’s harmless joke. I get called much worse here, and I have no problems with it, and nobody else seems to either. Why in the world Maine is catching flak for making fun of Edwards’ beard is beyond me. Let it go man, it’s not that serious. There was literally NOTHING offensive in his comment.

by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was more defending Dragon and his point. I mean if we started

bashing someone for looking Jewish, Catholic, ect…. it would be different and everyone would be up in arms as they should be. I guess its just comments that are made out of ignorance like that drive me nuts as they do have an effect.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t you make a homosexual reference to him and I in another post? We know you’re joking and no one singled out Muslims. There’s plenty of non-Muslim terrorists out there with shaggy looking beards that seem like they’ve been hiding under a camel trowel for nine months.

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No that was not me. Someone did but don't put that on me.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And as far as terrorist go there are way more that look like

you and I out there. Trust me on this as this is what I did for a living at one point. Look for terrorist that is.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

As usual TCP...

the standard answer is:

a – get over it

b – you’re overly sensitive/PC/etc

because there’s never been an culturally or socially inappropriate comment made in this website….but way too many “overly sensitive” types making something out of nothing.

Sound about right?

by Natalya on Sep 22, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your right Nat.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you nailed that one Nat

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to nitpick too much

but he refered to it as a “terroist” look…not a muslim look…there are columbian terroists…american terroists…german terrorists…terroists are scum…who cares what they fight for…when you use the tactics that they do…your scum…lower than the fuzzy stuff that grows on a pile of shit in a field…doesnt matter your race/religion etc….

Its just at this point in time…we all think of terroists as muslim because thats what we were attacked by…just saying….

by unklphinnie on Sep 22, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And as someone that fought terrorism that statement

those beliefs and many of the comments here are rife with ignorance. Not something that people should be promoting. That “terrorist look” is also a look based on religious beliefs. Its sad that a fringe segment of a religion has chosen that path but its unfair to label people that look a certain way in a negative way based on the actions of a few.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

not gonna argue the point anymore

for me it started out light…“not allowed to make fun of terroists cuz they might be insulted?” seriously this PC crap has gone too far…as far as the fighting the scum whooahh to you and me and mosul and all the other veterans on here who heeded the call and put it on the line to fight the good fight…by the way what religion is FARC???

by unklphinnie on Sep 22, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farc?

And for the record I was a DHS special agent and not a vet.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAahhh

didnt know that…FARC are the columbian “revolutionaries” (read terrorists) that fund themselves with kidnappings and ripping off the drug lords etc…

Point is they tend to have quite a few guys who have the bushy unkempt “Terrorist Beard” without being Muslim or Religious

by unklphinnie on Sep 22, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the way

i have the big bushy unkempt “terrorist beard” myself (although mine is mostly grey) and have been subjected to countless hours of friends telling me i have “the Hawaiian terrorist” look as many self resepecting terrorists wouldnt be caught dead in a luau shirt, shorts and flipflops with a pork sandwich in one hand and a beer in the other! LOL

by unklphinnie on Sep 22, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get what your saying but I think you missed my point all together.

Obviously I am in no way defending terrorist but simply pointing out that dragons original point that stereotyping a look or a religion based on a small segment of a population is offensive to some. We are a diverse community here and just like I have made comments on the gay jokes and even one most unfortunate joke about Jews we should just avoid such comments in mixed company.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

Thanks…I went back and re-read the whole thread to see what I missed…cuz I did get pretty angry over something that I misconstrued…my fault. Apologies to all

by unklphinnie on Sep 22, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its all good!

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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

no prob bro

was just simply trying to point out to maine that he needs to becareful how he words things around here. Had he said something like “wow, braylon looks like a terrorist in this picture” or “this picture leads me to believe that Braylon is a terrorist” is totally cool….but when you say that the beard makes him a terrorist is when you segregate people in the phinsider community that may have a beard similiar due to their religious beliefs.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^ this

Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no

you can insult terrorists all that you want….but last time I checked Braylon and his “beard” arent. Insult Braylon all you want but to insinuate that anyone with a beard like that looks like a terrorist is stupid. but then again if you want to say stupid things it is really just a reflection on you.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 22, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know...

… if they pull him aside at the airport and jack him up, I for one, would be extremely happy. Means that we haven’t forgotten.

We ain’t gonna change the world. I truly believe there was no malicious intent from Maine. Personally, Edwards’ eyes give me the sense that he’s an alcoholic. I also wouldn’t let him date my daughter…. sorry.

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by Alpha6 on Sep 21, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^^ this

Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think it was malicious, and I know it was a joke

but maybe those who dont frequent this site as often, or know you and I as well as we know each other, might have read that? It was poor wording, that is all I am saying. Insult Braylon all that you want, just dont insult an entire religion in doing so…that is all that I am saying.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 23, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a JOKE freaking relax

Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Saw this earlier...

no issues with the beard, heck he reminds me of Ricky a few years ago during his um, ‘rastafarian’ phase.

Back to the issue at hand…Edwards could conceivbly be suspended if he’s had a previous issue with alcohol/dui, etc. I believe the NFL keeps the first offense confidential so if he has had one, then this would mean he could be suspended.

That aside, I don’t know that Rex Ryan would suspend him or sit him, maybe the first series, etc….but beyond that I doubt it. Truth is all these coaches get judged on wins and though fans love to point to other teams, when it comes to their own, what matters more often than not is simply getting the W and hey want their best players on the field

by Natalya on Sep 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

2nd offense

He was charged with punching a guy outside a bar, found guilty. This is strike 2 and a bad one – twice the legal limit, so chances are we are looking at a min multi-game suspension. Say goodbye to the 6 million dollar man.

by Dolphriend on Sep 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punching that guy fell under the Personal Conduct Policy. DUI falls under the Substance Abuse Program. Unless he’s previously been entered into the Substance Abuse Program then this won’t result in a suspension. The more likely scenario for him missing time would be violation of his probation in Ohio for hitting that guy if he is still on probation.

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

I think I heard the max he could get for a 1st violation of the substance abuse policy is a substantial hit to his game-check for Sunday…

$50,000 or something… ya know, no big deal

by ehotonic on Sep 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

NFL policies aside, the guy is on probation…so he is looking at jail time. How much/when is yet to be determined.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 21, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if they’ve determined that he’s still on probation

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read he was

but you know how solid reporting has been lately…especially post-twitter

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by Dragon27az on Sep 21, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it wasn't rastafarian

it was hindu (with weed)

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by samdaman on Sep 21, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting combo.

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Kimbo?

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Rick Ross?

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by Deuce Black on Sep 21, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That was my first thought as well…

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by Jevant on Sep 21, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im interested

How this goes hand in hand with his probation period.. anyone have more info on that? Like how long its for, ect. If this is his first offense and he isn’t on probation, this will probably be the last we hear about it. However, if he is still on probation i don’t see how a DUI doesn’t violate that even if its 2 different things.

by Gregwoo81 on Sep 21, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats where Jet players stash their

cheeseburgers during practice…

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by Deuce Black on Sep 21, 2010 1:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

LOL FTW !!

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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monday is American Express Day

NY Jets Injuries:

Jason Taylor – elbow, cost 1 million $

Nick Mangold – cankle, cost 7 million $

Darelle Revis – hip, cost 12 million $

Calvin Pace – foot, cost 3 million $

Braylon Edwards – brain, cost 6 million $

Jets losing…Priceless!

by Dolphriend on Sep 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats not Braylon that Bray-Laden

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by Foy on Sep 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

couldn't help myself

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Lmfao unreal

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by Foy on Sep 21, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice pic, LOL!

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by AussieKen on Sep 21, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats wrong...

yet funny

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by samdaman on Sep 21, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda Ricky Williams-ish....

lol

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I know, right

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by Farorefox on Sep 21, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL LOL LOL LOL SCORE !!!

Henne needs to step up
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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of Braylon but what’s the point of kicking him while he’s down. Hope he and Revis both play because i want no excuses when we give the Jets a beating this sunday night

by PhinsAllDay on Sep 21, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

We don't discriminate

I’m happy to kick him while he’s down or up, no difference to me, lol

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will the real Mean Joe Greene please stand up........

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by Alpha6 on Sep 21, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

throw the kid a cola already

-lol the cop yells something like "guttenhiemerschnitzel!!" and the dog hears "kill the guy with the hat on!!"

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by Dragon27az on Sep 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There will always, ALWAYS be excuses from Jets fans.

If they have a full team, everyone’s healthy, and we blow them out or just squeak by, there will be excuses from them, Ryan, ESPN, etc.

So I guess it really doesn’t matter if we play them with a full team or not. I would love to play them a few men down just to get the W.

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by gatorfin on Sep 21, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

lol nice

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by samdaman on Sep 21, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Now they reporting:

D’Brickashaw Ferguson and Vernon Gholston were in car with Braylon Edwards, according to source

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by Kevin Nogle on Sep 21, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. Did they get PI's? I assume they were worse off or they would have been driving, right?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three of them together is even worse. It means all three of them are too stupid to realize that risks aren’t something they should be taking especially Ferguson who just got paid. Really silly in my mind that three grown men can’t come together and do the right thing.

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

... the Three Stooges?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 21, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I though that was you, tuna and Nicky?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

True. Between the 3 you would think one of them would have had enough sense.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No arrest or charges for those two.

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by Kevin Nogle on Sep 21, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

See Gang Green Nation...

… they have all kinds of posts on this and related topics… say those two were charged with something…

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by Alpha6 on Sep 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if they could be considered accesories or enablers or something

I’m not up on DWI laws, tbh.

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by Farorefox on Sep 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Texas they would have gone in for public intox if they were both in fact drunk.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

public intox if you are IN a vehicle? seriously? So If I live in texas and I am getting a ride home and while drunk from a sober driver if he gets pulled over they can ticket me for public intox?

Now if thats true thats f’ed up

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by jdtman on Sep 21, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its against the law to be in public drunk.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So how do you get home from a club or bar?

I know you cannot be walking around the streets falling down drunk.. but in a car not driving? Thats messed up

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by jdtman on Sep 22, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't tell me. I am not a legislator.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

No not if the driver is sober but if they pull over a car full of drunk people they

cant toss the keys to the drunk guy not driving. Just how it works.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Cops are not a taxi service.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And thats probably what happens in Mayberry but not in a major

city. I bet it happens in more places than you are aware of. Now they don’t always choose to charge someone for being PI due to all the paperwork but your ass might get to sleep it off in a cell all the same.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Kids!

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 27 and I even know what Mayberry is

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought everyone not living under a rock knew.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAA is though, they’ll even tow your car home if you disconnect the battery and tell them to just tow it. Five miles free!!!

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but thats something that you have to call before the cops get involved.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I understand that.. but if a car load of drunks are in a car.. and the driver gets pulled over.. then how can the others get in trouble?

I mean I guess they could be loud and obnoxious but around here the cops would just tell em to get rides home or whanot. They wouldnt arrest the whole bunch.

Henne needs to step up
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by jdtman on Sep 22, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here in Texas they do all the time.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gholston attempting to crush any sort of comeback for his career

How dreadful…

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by Farorefox on Sep 21, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sad thing here...,

is that, and this is a credit to the jets organization much as it pains me to say….the jets provide a free ride/driver to any/all of their players with a mere phone call. The whole idea is that this way, none of the players ever have to be in a position to drive while under the influence of anything really (drugs, alcohol). Moreover, the program is anonymous, so it isn’t as if using it would get a player called out by his teammates or coach.

Yet here we go, with not only Edwards, but 2 other big names involved as well.

by Natalya on Sep 21, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I think any team with a clue should have that sort of system.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a standard thing for every Army unit

We always have a way for the guys to call a cab, get a ride back to the unit, the cab gets paid, then the Soldier just has to pay it back sometime, so there’s always money for the next guy.

Much easier to do that than to have to hold a memorial service for a Soldier or family member.

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by Kevin Nogle on Sep 21, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen to that. Having seen my dad after having to notify parents after deaths in his

squadron I know its about as terrible as it gets.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, that must be one of the roughest positions to be in. I don’t know how long it would take for me to either go crazy delivering those messages or become numb to it. That’s terrible.

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by special agent wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was commander of the largest rescue squadron in the Air Force. His squadron

was made up of all blackhawks with C130’s as support aircraft. One of his C130’s went down off the coast of California and went right to the bottom of the ocean killing the entire crew. He went to each ones house that night including the house of his best friend who’s son was on the aircraft. That was also his squadron that had the blackhawk that got blown down the side of Mt Hood while trying to rescue some hikers a few years back. Luckily all those guys lived.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's provided to every team by the NFL

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