"Disrespected" defense leads way as Dolphins knock off Vikings
by Matty I on Sep 20, 2010 5:00 AM EDT
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There were not many people who believed the Dolphins could go up to Minnesota and knock off a Vikings team that did not lose at home at all in nine games last year - especially not after this Dolphins team struggled to defeat the lowly Bills in week one. The game didn't begin very well for Miami, either. The Vikings converted two third downs on the opening possession and were driving well into Miami territory.
That's when the game changed. And that is where I'll start.
This defense deserves respect
Let's be honest for a minute. If not for the outstanding play by this new-look Dolphin defense, we're probably sitting here discussing what has gone wrong with this team and why they are currently 0-2. It's really that simple.
Brad Childress clearly didn't respect this defense to start the game. That's the only way to explain his decision to have his Vikings go for a 4th & 2 from Miami's 26 yard line. This play would also foreshadow what was to come in this game. Brett Favre dropped back and had his pass batted down at the line of scrimmage by Randy Starks - one of many huge defensive plays that the Dolphins would make.
After the game, Kendall Langford told the media that he "felt like that was disrespectful. They think they can just march the ball right down the field on us, but at the end of the day we had the smile on our faces when we stopped them."
They sure did.
You can talk about a number of outstanding individual performances. But there's one stat that sums up this entire game. The Vikings made five trips inside the red zone but scored only ten points. That's how you know you have a damn good defense.
Want one more fun stat? Considering Ricky's fumble gave Minnesota the ball at the one yard line (so I'm not holding that TD against the defense), the Dolphins' defense scored more points than they allowed, 7-3. That's just ridiculously impressive. It really is.
Miami's defense surrendered a ton of yards - 364 to be exact. But they made big play after big play - something Paul Pasqualoni's passive defensive schemes never did. Mike Nolan has this defense attacking. He's making offenses adjust to him instead of adjusting his defense to the opposing offense. He has these players believing they are great - resulting in great plays.
Want to talk individual performances? Fine. Jason Allen looked like an actual former first round pick - which is probably this coaching staff's greatest feat so far this year. I honestly don't even recognize him anymore. He's playing aggressive. He's disrupting the routes of the receivers. He's playing physical. Most importantly, he no longer looks lost. He's not thinking, he's just playing. His football instincts are taking over - and for the first time in his career, he looks comfortable on the field.
More thoughts on this defense:
- Karlos Dansby is proving to be every bit the player many - including myself - thought he would be. After all of the outstanding plays made by this defense on Sunday, it was Dansby who single-handedly (with a big assist from Vontae Davis) saved the game by filling the hole on that fourth and goal run by Adrian Peterson, making the stop shy of the goal line with just over two minutes left.
- Randy Starks is a star, plain and simple. He's never going to have the numbers that draw national attention. But he can play any spot along the defensive line and make an impact on the game. What a signing by this front office a couple of years back. It's the kind of move that will not ever get the attention it deserves. But signing players like Starks is what builds championship teams.
- Paul Soliai put together a very good game himself, starting at nose tackle while Starks slid over to end to replace the injured Jared Odrick. He was winning the battle with Minnesota's center far more often than he was losing. Not a bad number two option for Mike Nolan and company.
- Cameron Wake is going to have 15+ sacks this year. The guy can't be blocked by most tackles. And he beat a double-team to get to Favre and force that fumble that Koa Misi recovered for a touchdown. These two are going to quickly make us forget about Jason Taylor and Joey Porter - if they haven't already.
- Speaking of Misi, he didn't have a big game on the stat sheet. But he was still disruptive, collapsing the pocket a number of times. He officially had two quarterback hits on Sunday. But what is important to note is that it is Misi who works on the right side of the defense in most pass-rushing situations, meaning he goes up against the opposing team's left tackle - also known as their best pass protector. That allows Wake to rush from the left side, which he's obviously more comfortable doing, against the right tackle (and sometimes a tight end). Advantage Wake. So when evaluating Misi's impact on any game, just keep that fact in mind.
VD is a budding star
I'll admit it. I was one of those fans a little bit worried with how Vontae Davis was performing in the preseason. He had a tendency for allowing big plays a year ago. And he didn't look much better in the preseason.
I was wrong.
Davis is quickly becoming an outstanding football player. He stuck to his man like glue on Sunday. The one time Favre did test Davis deep, he was stride for stride with Percy Harvin - one of the fastest players in the league. But truth be told, we didn't see Brett attack Davis that much. Just as I thought (and mentioned during game thread), that wasn't just a coincidence.
After the game, Favre had this to say to the media:
"Twenty-one, I felt like is one of the best corners in this league, especially that nobody knows about. Twenty-one, I was less apt to challenge."
It's not just Vontae's coverage skills that deserve mentioning, though. He's a complete corner. He's active in run support - as Peterson found out on that fourth and goal play. The short passes that are completed against him don't result in big gains thanks to his tackling ability.
Now we just need to see consistency. For two weeks, Davis has been very good. But the season is still very young. Vontae has the makings of an elite corner - there's no question. But he has two tough tests these next two weeks against division opponents in the national, prime time spotlight. If he wants to get national recognition, these next two weeks present the perfect opportunity.
QUICK HITS
More quick thoughts on Sunday's win:
- The offense has to play better - nobody will argue that. But Chad Henne again did what he had to do to win. His pass to Brandon Marshall on their first play of the game was perfectly placed. His touchdown throw to Brian Hartline was a perfect throw. Would I have liked to see Henne take more shots beyond ten yards? Sure. But unless you were at the game and saw receivers running open (because it's virtually impossible to see on television), it's hard to say he missed opportunities.
- The two fumbles by Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams obviously could have cost this team the game. But the defense bailed him out. No need to harp on those two miscues. I trust both of them to learn from the mistake and move on. So we'll do the same and move on.
- Though the running game had some trouble at times, you have to be impressed with the performance of this offensive line. No team runs well against this Vikings front seven. For the Dolphins to run for 120 yards and average 4.1 yards per carry is a great sign. This offensive line is starting to gel. They improved from last week to this week despite playing against better competition. I expect this unit to continue to improve. Very encouraging performance by those big guys up front.
- Lousaka Polite is a monster - plain and simple. There aren't many - if any - better run-blocking fullbacks in the NFL.
- Brandon Fields had a hell of a day. Four of his six punts landed inside Minnesota's 20. One of the two that didn't traveled 59 yards. He's a weapon for this team right now and will likely continue to get better.
- What was with the back-to-back "12 men on the field" penalties by the Dolphins?
- I still think the Wildcat is a weapon, particularly inside the red zone. But it was a drive killer on the first possession of the second half. Is it time to abandon it?
- It seems like everyone is criticizing the Dolphins for putting the ball in the air on that final 3rd & 3 with just under two minutes to go. But I love the call. They tried to put the ball in the air and win the game without forcing their exhausted defense to take the field for one more stop. But protection broke down and caused Henne to rush his throw. Still - I like the call.
- Yes, there were some Quentin Moses sighting on Sunday. Besides applying the pressure on that third down play with 40 seconds left, he did a nice job setting the edge when he was out there.
It's only week two, but our Miami Dolphins are 2-0 and in sole possession of first place in the AFC East. You can't ask for much more than that right now.
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Really enjoying this great win, again our play calling wants to give us all heart attacks. Why can’t we just kill games? i don’t get it!!!
Henne was playing well early, the two throws (to Marshall and the TD) were both great. The Vikes are strong against the run, and expecting the run, so what do we do??? we run!!
Really frustrated by the play calling. Let Henne play already, take the training wheels off. Even Sanchez had a field day yesterday against Pats!
Just worried that Nolan’s D will get tired quickly at this rate (remember Broncos last year, they started 6-0 and finished 8-8)
On another note, sadly we ain’t getting the respect yet. Exception of Warren Sapp, most media comments were that the Vikes are weaker then we thought, the Phins still unclear. Lets go beat up the Jets on Monday night to get this point across (and after watching the Pats against them, its all about balanced Attack)
Lets go Phins!
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Who gives a $#&^$ about getting respect???
Really?
Do you really feel there is a single player on the roster, or coaching staff that is walking around having trouble sleeping at night because they are sitting undefeated and in sole possession of the AFC East….but AREN’T getting any respect by the media??? lol
Seriously???
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I don’t think it’s a huge deal, but it’s frustrating sometimes to hear, even if you know you’re team is really that good
So let everybody else find out the hard way
after we come to their house and beat them.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I think these players do care about respect.
After the game, Kendall Langford told the media that he “felt like that was disrespectful. They think they can just march the ball right down the field on us, but at the end of the day we had the smile on our faces when we stopped them.”
Granted, this was a lack of respect from a team, not the media, but it still shows that these players want respect. The good thing though is that the lack of respect seems to have motivated the team, so disrespect all you want. I personally hope Berman picks against us every week anyways, the guy’s terrible at picks. Really, the only reason why I want the Dolphins to get more respect is so they get more air time.
some players do really care
I played SS at Oklahoma State & some people actually cared, I know that going pro & getting millions might change most peoples minds, but, some people actually care about getting their Aretha Franklin, lol..
Anyway, who cares? WE WON! 2-0
All I care about is that we won the game away, first time since 79 that we opened the season with two road wins!!
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by E_Dove on Sep 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really 79 WOW
Thats a great stat.. Not even in the Marino era did we do that…WOW Rec’d
Was at the fake spike game against the Jests !!
thank you
yes, the last time we started a season with two wins on the road was 1979. 31 years ago!
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What GoPhish said.
More respect means more Monday Night and Sunday Night games, and Fox picks up more of our games against NFC teams. All of which means I get to see more Dolphins games.
We used to get a lot of Dolphins games on CBS, but then the Titans came along and crapped on my parade.
Not to be an @$$
But actually Kendall Langford stated after the game that he felt disrespected by Brad Childress going for it on 4th down, he said they think they can just run and throw all over us but they were the ones smiling at the end of the game, but i dont care about what these analyst say especially after that drop they gave us for winning a game in the power rankings.
by Goon305Boy10 on Sep 20, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ignore those boobs. They know squat.
Half of them probably did not even see the game and go off of only the score.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you Mo
They should let Henne do more. Yes, he was allowed to open it up a little more this week, but with everyone talking about the Vike’s secondary, we should have exploited that.
But you also have to look at it this way. Like you said;
The Vikes are strong against the run, and expecting the run, so what do we do??? we run!!
And we ran fairly well against them. In the past 3 years, not many teams put up a 100 yard rushing attack on the Vikings. We did. So as much as I’d like to see Henne take off, with the 4th best rushing attack last year and looking very good again this year, I say pound the ball down the other teams throats.
by phillyphinsphan7 on Sep 20, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
But
We were an Adrian Peterson juke away of LOSING this game. My point is we could have easily put more points on the board. Henne connected well WHEN he was allowed to pass. We kept the run,run, pass format which makes us so predictable. Long and the rest did well against their pass rush, and since they were expecting the run, we had lots of single coverage out there against a weak secondary. Let Henne play already! :)
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We were two fumbles from the Vikings not
scoring any points.
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by PotM on Sep 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
when we ran early we were gashing the vikings D
when the momentum shifted and our run game was going no where. we started to pass. the problem was execution. when we started to pass more (or seemed like we would) the drives ended in 1 three and out, 2 fumbles, a holding penalty that set us back and one was under 2 mins so we were running the clock out.
I agree
Let Henne play already is right. Thats all i kept yelling yesterday!! Why did we get Marshall if were not going to throw the ball more?? What do they think throwing the long ball on the first play of the game is enough to keep teams from loading the box? LOL I’m very happy with being 2-0 but if they keeping playing games like this i don’t know if my heart will last a whole season…LOL How about a blow out every once in a while Please!! How about this sunday night !! GO PHINS !!
Was at the fake spike game against the Jests !!
One more thing
What a call by Matty , saw his tweet saying Phins will win before the game by 2 days – take to the bank. Great call man
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On Vontae
We got the cream of that CB class. Malcom Jenkins has moved to safety for NO, while Darius Butler, many who thought should have been taken ahead of VD, was getting creamed by Sanchez and Braylon Edwards. Lets hope VD shuts out Edwards next week :)
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thats our motto, get the first score, control field position and grind that clock down. We HAVE
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But
You can’t expect your Defense to do it for you each time. You can’t expect your offense to be in full rhythm in the game where you need them to lead a 4th qtr comeback.
When you send the offense to win the game you a) give them confidence, b) send a message to the league , let them fear you , c) give the Defense a breather out there, its a long season, d) the offense is more ready to step up when you need them
I don’t like the play calling. Henne threw what 15 times yesterday? come on! and thats against a great rushing defense and a very poor passing defense.
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
remember we had two very costly fumbles, with one on the goaline,
so its not like they wanted the defense to have to win it and also remember henning called a passing play on 3rd down and it was batted down at the line so its not like they were just running 3 straight times and punting, i think we will see the wrinkles and all the tricks up their sleeve in the next two games against the jets and pats (2 divisional games). the saints only scored 14 pts and they were at home in their own stadium with the SB banner coming down all jacked up. The dolphins were playing in the loudest stadium in the league, in a hostile environment on the road and won, lets see how they attack the jets and pats.
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by sonnycrockett on Sep 20, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
cont.
to have the number one defense in the league, 2 really hostile environments, on the road and we win both, first time in almost a decade we start 2-0, cant be more happy. as far as Vontae Davis, I love me some Vontae, i was soo excited when we drafted him. good to see some of the skeptics are seeing the light. :)
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2-0 On the road
Something that is not being mentioned is that there are only 8 undefeated teams now and we are the only team of those eight to have won both games on the road. We have two big prime time games coming up at home that if they stay focused will put 4 of the first 6 games in the win column and 3-0 in the division. Offense will be much more comfortable at home and we should see it opening up a little bit more being able to communicate easier with the home crowd cheering for you not against you. If asked a month ago if you’d take 3-0 division and 4-0 overall, none of us would have complained.
by CarolinaDolfan on Sep 20, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
They did look really good out there yesterday.
I would still like to see us take a few more shots downfield, but a win is a win. I knew I would enjoy watching our defense this year after screaming Pasqualoni all last year… I just didn’t realize how much I would love this defense. I was to be honest worried about the rookies and 2nd year players that we had starting, but the rookies(Odrick and Misi) are looking strong, and Clemons is looking solid, even Sean Smith(I know he isn’t starting) looks solid in his role. Vontae is becoming elite … and quickly. I wonder who will have the better game next week, Vontae vs. Edwards or Revis vs. Marshall. We all know that Revis is injured (can you feel the sarcasm?), and I think it was convienient since last week he faced Moss and this week he faces Marshall. What better way to keep the myth alive??
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Jason Allen
If I remember correctly last year Smith covered Edwards because of size. I wonder if Nolan will have Jason Allen cover Edwards with Safety help, while Vonte shuts down the other side. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jets did the same thing against us. Revis on Hartline with Carmite with safety help on Marshall.
by Ralph In Michigan on Sep 20, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
If Revis plays, I can’t possibly imagine him not being on Marshall.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
He'll be on Marshall
he covers the #1. There is a roughly 0% he lines up across from Hartline on any play, unless Hartline is the only WR in the game
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Revis was not looking good against Moss
I am actually pretty optimistic Marshall will manhandle Revis if he’s not 100%
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I love our D
Big play after big play, everything that was missing last year. Now it’s time for our offense to open up and we’ll have one hell of a team.
play calling was predictable
Im not hating on the team. I love it that we are 2-0 and have yet to trail yet in a game. But the playcalling was way too predictable. run-run-pass. that’s all we did. where’s the play action. We need to have the agressive mind set on offense as we do on defense. But Im definately excited about this season. LETS GO!
Jake Long is a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the best battles in the game was Jake Long vs Jared Allen. The only time Allen touched Henne was when he ran forward out of the pocket. Otherwise Long man-handled him. WHAT A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Dolphinatic in Toronto on Sep 20, 2010 6:38 AM EDT reply actions
^^^^Absolutely^^^^^
Long pretty much erased Allen. The O-Line is still gelling but they looked really nasty and effective, especially in the firest half.
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by PhrozenPhish on Sep 20, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
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For sure
I love having Long over there, he was dominant yesterday. Incognito needs to find his stroke, though; he missed a few key blocks, though I think he’ll get there. When that happens, our left side is going to be sick.
Agreed
The one play that stands out in my mind from the game was when Incognito picked the wrong lineman to help and chose to help Long who had Allen neutralized (per normal) and Berger (to his right) couldn’t hold his block resulting in Henne getting hit.
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
See what I'm sayin.
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by uncle finster on Sep 20, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It was awesome
seeing Long dominate Allen all day. I love it when the commentators discussed how Long was taking Allen out of the game. “See this is how you block your man” “Allen was taken out of that play.” “Allen is having a rough day.” GO Jake!!
by Ralph In Michigan on Sep 20, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats why Henne made me so mad yesterday
Long was stoning Allen but Allen actually registered a sack against Long because Henne made an ill advised run out of the pocket.
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that was obnoxious.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That was not a sack.
That was a I’m going to stick my arm out and the QB is going to run into it like a WWF star. Henne needed to throw quicker. PLus what’s with Allen dancing like he had made a play earlier in the game when he never touched Henne?
by JerseyGuy77 on Sep 20, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You noticed too how easily Henne went down
if Allen even brushed up against him he was going down like a sack of potatoes. He needs to get in the gym and do some lifting
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, i didn't watch the game, but sometimes
it is better to just go down. This doesn’t allow great DEs to swipe the ball out of your hands while you are trying to break free.
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smh
you do realize he’s talking about a different “going down” right?
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by Deuce Black on Sep 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hahaha
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Do you go down easily, PotM?
..I mean, if a pursuing person just brushes right up against you?
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If she's hot.... I do....
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
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•It seems like everyone is criticizing the Dolphins for putting the ball in the air on that final 3rd & 3 with just under two minutes to go. But I love the call. They tried to put the ball in the air and win the game without forcing their exhausted defense to take the field for one more stop.
Sorry gotta disagree. Lousaka takes that one down! Which keeps the clock rolling and d off the field. But what I will agree with, the DOlphins are 2-0 and I am happy.
After watching that game between our hated rivals yesterday, I gotta say I like our chances to go 4-0 before the bye.
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The defense is absolutely sick!!!!!!!!!
I believe that the offense will look better at home. 2 road wins…wattau know.
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It’s smart….little things like Moses pulling ujp and not taking a roughing the passer flag at the end of the game. No penalities at al in the first half (?!!)
It’s big – as my daughter would say: Ov-vee
It’s tough – Davis, Dansby, Wake and the O-line as a group are mashing people. But also Marshall, everytime he gets the ball looks like he’s deathly alegic to field turf…he jusy won’t go down. Misi – who weighs – what? 260? consistantly collapses the pocket, he’s relantless out there.
Three misques prevented this from being a white-wash: The two fumbles and Sapp’s off-side which errased Allen’s other pick.
You take those away and Minny gets no points, Favre has four picks and people are talking about Dolphin domination rather than Viking rust.
In truth we can keep flying under the radar all year and I’d be happy. There are seven 2-0 teams in the league…how sweet to be one of them.
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No "accepted" penalties in the first half
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Fun reading the "Stock Market Report" at the Dailey Norseman
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2010/9/20/1699067/stock-market-report-week-2#storyjump
This guy can write…and his take on the game is entertaining. – wouldn’t be so amusing if we’d lost…but we won so why not revel a little?
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2-0, man what a feeling
Defense deserves a moment of silence. Okay now lets get that offense together and put up 30 plus points on the Jets.
THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-
Yes rip the Jets
a 10-7 win would be fine, but a 30-7 rout would even more glorious.
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I think our defensive backfield went from a weakness to a strength.
Vontae is a monster, Jason Allen is all of a sudden a good corner, Clemons is playing well, and Bell is Bell. Also, it seems to me that Sean Smith may have taken Culver’s role on defense. I’ve heard people say that Smith is better built to be a safety, so maybe this is for the best.
Really believe he is better at safety than cb.Gives our defense needed flexability.
THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 20, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Smith should be limited to big slow WR's and TE's
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
16-0!
Were no longer “PRETENDERS” as the analyst say! We’ve become CONTENDERS and they’re finally starting to see what we’ve got cookin over here (even though we’ve all known since day one). I would like to give a gameball to Jason Allen, i still feel like he hasn’t gotten enough credit yet he really should have 4 picks… Jake Long, WOW he is amazing at what he does! Didn’t even notice Jared was on the field Sunday lol. Vontae is hungry FEED THE WOLF!! I know it’s only week 2 but i think we have the BEST CB Tandem in the AFC East. Wake is a beast…JOEY WHO???? Henne 0 turnovers…Need i say more? Mike Nolan’s great coaching, wow he’s good really put pressure on Favre, defense looked exhausted though. GOOOO FINS 16-0 LETS GOOOOOOOOO!
lol
Weren’t you one of the guys questioning Henne’s starting role..
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes i did....
Although Henne hasn’t showed merely anything the one thing that he did show me is the most important QB stat… So i’ve put more faith in him anyways thats so two weeks ago lol
by Goon305Boy10 on Sep 20, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot to mention Dansby's...
Diving knockdown of a certain TD toss in the corner of the endzone!!! Super athlethic and that would have certainly been a TD last year with our ILBs
by NC Livin! MIA Born and Bred! on Sep 20, 2010 8:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like much of the content of Matty's post here but...
can we please dispense with the whole “respect” nonsense? Why do pro athletes and far too many people who follow/comment/broadcast on sports as well as fans, insist on speaking of respect & disrespect? Ultimately the games are played on the field and everyone has the same objective: winning.
You do things that you perceive maximize your chances of getting a good result. That’s what it comes down to in sports.
So let’s dispense with this 3rd grade nonsense of respect and just dissect the game. When we do that it is fairly simple….Miami’s defense put the clamps on Minnesota while our offense did enough for a win.
Totally agree.
The media are never going to think as highly of a team as its own fans do. So every team and their fans feels ‘disrespected’. It’s nonsense, really.
And if Minnesota feel they can make it on 4th and 2, that’s just them trying to win the game, having faith in a brilliant running back. However if it helps our defence get jacked up to ‘feel disrespected’ then I’m okay with it. But it’s bull.
Oh...I mean whatever motivation you use is fair game...
I know different things have motivated me during my athletic career and admittedly, I wouldn’t share those with some people as they were….uh, not necessarily PC :-)
But the whole no respect with the media angle and putting it in the press is where I draw the line. That’s just amateurish.
Hahaha
not PC, eh? Kinda interested in hearing what these things are now..
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well Dave, let's just say, I didn't....er, don't...necessarily
always view my competitors in the best light (that they might be nice people is irrelevant!)
:)
Love it. I bet you scare the hell out of your competition.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This year? Absolutely.
The peloton “patrona” is worried.
Now what scares me…..er, M-3’s, 537b transfers of property to corporations, and dependency rules which I seem to frequently forget :-)
Seriously Dave, 2-0 is a fantastic start to what remains a very tough first half of the season.
Well you probably remember more than I do at this point
Applying it is the most “fun” part of all that. I’m sure you’ll be a natural :)
I whole-hearted agree, and can’t wait to see what the remainder of the season brings us.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly... I even made a fan post about it....
To even think that the players/coaches/staff are concerned about being disrespected after going 2-0, is ludacris.
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If you've got a problem with one of my posts. Take a deep breath, re-read it, and make sure I'm not being sarcastic. Over reaction on your part WILL result in me stoking your fire. You have been warned.
Two different senses of "respect", though
We should dispense of the “respect” nonsense – the kind that gets talked about between media and the fans. So we put on ESPN this morning, hoping to hear the media heaping praise on our dolphins, only to hear “the Vikings aren’t who we thought they were”, and so now the fans feel like the team is being disrespected by the media. This is utterly ridiculous. Like fr8 says here, sitting at 2-0, they couldn’t care less about being “disrespected” in this regard. Maybe if our team were media divas like some other teams out there, it wouldn’t be as an utterly moot point; but how our team is put together and coached, I don’t see this faux-“disrespect” to be in play at all.
However, during a game when a team goes for 4th and shorts on multiple occasions… well, that is disrespect, especially the play that Langford commented on. Obviously, our squad did feel disrespected by that kind of play, and it was a reason to get jacked up. But this is totally different than the media-fan version of “disrespect”, which is just an empty reply to not getting your ego stroked on Monday by the media. So, let’s just not equivocate on the term “disrespect” too much – the kind Matty is talking about here is not the petty version of “disrespect”, it’s the real kind that got the Vikings into the shit real fast.
To each their own I guess...
but I see whether a team goes for it on fourth and short 5x a game or punts in each case….IMO, that’s simply a matter of strategy, coaching decisions, and weighing what you’ve got vs. what your opponents have. If you look at the stats across the league, 4th down conversions where you have less than 1 yard to go, most of them are successful. That to me then reflects the fact that such a decision is made based on percentages…..it is a high percentage play.
You're right...
…though the first drive of the game, sitting at the MIA 27, with 2 yards to go on 4th down is a no-brainer for a field goal in the NFL. Unless, that is, you feel you are looking at a team that shouldn’t be on the field with you (and we have all the reason to think they thought of us as a inferior team; Favre said as much in the few snippets I heard today, and on Jim Rome this afternoon Jared Allen said how they were the better team).
You see this happen – probably more justifiably so – a lot in college and high-school football, when teams are grossly overmatched to their opponents, and where the kicking game is worse than a crapshoot. So when a big college team plays their first game hosting Western East St. Willy’s Idaho’s State College Tech, 4th and 2s are fair game, even 4th and 4s, maybe the odd 4th and 5. Especially when it’s just over mid-field, or in that 30yd+ field goal range (hell, even 25yds), with these lame college kickers, go for it. The strategy is “spread them out, isolate their players, give it to your best athelete, and go hard”; it works, it wins the Gators national championships. But not in the NFL – that gap isn’t there.
So you’re right – they thought we had nothing. They played us like we were in the bush-league. So they thought they could just “march the ball” down our throats, as Langford put it. Stick it in AP’s gut, let Favre chuck it over the top. I guarantee that against what they perceive to be an “evenly matched” opponent, in that situation they kick a field goal every time (EVERY TIME; hold me to it when they play the Packers or even the Bears – they will be kicking field goals on 4th and 2s from the 27 yard line). It’s also worth thinking about their call to go for it at the goal-line. Kim Bokamper asked Sparano about the call, and Sparano said he thought they’d kick a field goal and play the short field (for a field goal ftw). The more I thought about it, the more scary did that idea become – we lucked out that they went for it on 4th and goal. There was about 2:20 on the clock – so 2-minute warning plus at least 2, but I think all 3 of their timeouts. The way our offense was “moving” the ball, it seems to me that grabbing the easy 3, kicking deep and stuffing our offense on a 3-and-out (which they had done the entire game), and then having nowhere less than 1:45 (but probably something closer to 2 minutes) to get into field goal range for a win… that’s the play I was scared of, not going for it on 4th and goal. The Vikings let us off the hook consistently during this game by ‘going for it’ in general – they gave us the opportunity to rob them, but what they didn’t expect is that we’re a damn good football team, so we took it.
Their mistake was one of hubris; despite popular sentiment, there are no Western East St. Willy’s Idaho’s State College Tech’s in the NFL, but they took us to be one. To a NFL player on the field, it is disrespect, not strategy, to think that in the NFL you can get a yard whenever you want. The keyword is ‘whenever’; 4th and inches are prime candidates in certain situations, as we saw the Jets deploy it the other afternoon. The Vikings were consistently “going for it” on a variety of occasions, even in their play-to-play calling. Like I said before, the Vikings were hyped up on themselves in general during that game – they kept just trying to just beat us in one swipe, instead of dialing up a scheme to play us at a high level from play to play. So again, I’m not saying all instances of going for it on 4th down are ‘disrespectful’, but when its happening pathologically (and early!) like it did in the Vikings game, then their “strategy” is one of grossly underestimating the opposing defense… for shorthand, I’ll just call that disrespect.
[Sidenote: As far as the percentages go with these 4th and 1 conversions, those are sort of underdetermined, I think. Like Sparano said in the locker room speech, those failed 4th down conversions are like turnovers, so we need to give and assess some kind of statistically relevant percentages to what happens after getting the ball from a turnover, and put those numbers up against the apparently ‘high-percentage’ 4th and inches statistics (which is probably a respectively small set of figures; in 2009 there were something like 500 4th down attempts, and it appears like only a 60-70% success rate [I’m too lazy to do the math right now]; compare that to the over 7,000 3rd down attempts, with something like a 40% success rate). Basically, just knowing that this small sample set results in a conversion doesn’t seem to give enough information, especially when the failure is a turnover. High-percentage usually translates in sports to low-risk, and this is not the case on 4th downs; at least with a field goal that misses, you were playing the odds for points, whereas with a 4th and 1 run play you’re really just playing for a first-down and no points, with the failure of a turnover (which most coaches talk about as being the worst thing a team can do). Anyway, all I’m sayin is simply that the statistics are underdetermined: if it was such a high-percentage play, then we’d see it more (look at baseball and how managers use right- and left-handed pitchers out of the bullpen to deal with respectively right- and left-handed hitters; we see it all the time, it’s a statistically relevant and used high-percentage play). It’s an empirical fact that we don’t see coaches consistently going for it on 4th and shorts, I think, though that could change. The stats aren’t saying the whole truth here, for now, though I suspect that if the NFL went 4th-down happy, the stats would even out dramatically (I’d bet they’d look something like whatever the current going rate on 3rd-down and short conversions is at).]
Wow. Sammory please.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
In Summary:
(1) The Vikings took us to be chumps; they pathologically underestimated their opponents, and we chewed’em up and spat ’em out.
(2) The most frightening play of the game was the one that didn’t happen: a field goal on their (would-be stuffed) 4th and goal with 2:20 left on the clock.
(3) The idea that going for it on 4th and 1 is a “high percentage” play is a little misleading.
Thanks and on the Phinsider a summary=sammory. So named after Sam who never reads anything if
its more than 3 sentences long.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
kewl
good to know i’m new on here but been reading posts since last year, been a fan since’69 love the sight and the posts are great
by daytonadolfan on Sep 20, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well welcome to the site sir. Good to have you!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome bro....
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Well I really care about respect
because it’s kind of annoying to hear about how the other team lost the game
but more importantly, if your team is disrespected that means less air time
I like hearing dolphins coverage and I really like watching primetime games
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Defense is Great!!! But Offense still has ?????
OK, the defense was great!! Whatever Jason Allen is smoking, he needs to keep it up!!
However, I do have some Offense concerns!! If you take away the Marshall Long catch and Ronnie Brown 50 yd run, our offense did Zilch!!!
I don’t understand why Devonne Bess isn’t in more!! He has great hands, works super from 5 – 15 yds out and is the perfect compliment for Brandon Marshall!!! By and large you can feel confident if the ball is thrown near him, he will catch it. The other day they tried an end around with him. That IMHO was a mistake. He isn’t super fast and he is not that fast. His strength is that he has great hands!!
However, now that it looks like Revis is out next week, I am feeling a lot more confident!!!!!
I blame henning
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So do I
If we saw more plays like in that first drive, this team would have a fearsome offense as well.
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I dont kow if its even Henning anymore
I cant see if our WR’s are or aren’t getting open but I am seeing Henne hold onto the ball forever, lock on to 1 WR for the first 4 seconds and then he just checks down automatically.
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously though
First time 2-0 since 1979 and you’re also upset that our QB is locking onto the first true # 1 receiver we’ve had in 2 decades. What more do you want?
Beast + Robot x Karlito's Way = Championships & Happiness
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Can't wait for my Marshall jersey to get here
by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on Sep 20, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
... he wants more Miami Vice?
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LOL
He wants us to guess his name more?
Beast + Robot x Karlito's Way = Championships & Happiness
Harvey Milk called Sanchise and told him to man up
Can't wait for my Marshall jersey to get here
by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on Sep 21, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget about Dansby diving in the endzone to keep the ball away from Shiancoe.
Also a game-saving play.
I thought he could have possibly picked that but he made the smart play and went for the breakup
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome win, and I'll take it!
The only problem I have is how the Offense just shuts down after the second half. They attack early and build a lead, then just cruise. Why? If whatever their doing is working, why abandon it. Keep pounding on them until they stop it. I hate this conservative mode. Don’t make any mistakes, but don’t make any plays either.
I understand we are a run first team, but 14 passes against a not so good secondary is really sad. Let Henne play, unleash him!
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Sep 20, 2010 9:06 AM EDT reply actions
Moses sucks in coverage
Thats why Shankaho was able to get open deep across the middle.
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""It only ends once. Everything that comes before is just progress"
Moses wasnt the only one covering Shiancoe
Bell saw more time on him and was the main reason Shiancoe had a big day
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Jets!
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Random.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
but correct
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
True.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
.... it's just that Pats was hatin and I thought I'd throw in my hatred....
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Ok then.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The refs did a better job of stopping us than the Vikes
Twice I feel like we got screwed. First was the Jason Allen interception that put us on the 1 yard line. He catches it going into the end zone and actually lands in the end zone. IMO that ball should have went to the 20 instead of the 1. It also happened to be the drive that Ricky fumbles. If we’re at the 20 I’m sure the play calling would have been different and there would have been a good chance we would have kept them from scoring what was their only TD.
The second instance was the 4 and inches play late in the fourth. The Vikes got one of the luckiest spots I’ve seen in a while and I think the refs would have seriously reconsidered if Tony had challenged it.
One more thing, I’m not sure who it was during the broadcast that got on Tony about wearing sunglasses but he sure came off sounding like a jerk. I don’t think Tony has coached a single game without the glasses so that guy needs to wake up and do a better job at his awesome job that all of us would kill for. The man has issues with brightness and his eyes begin to water if brightness penetrates them. Get a clue Mr. Commentator or at least prepare for the game you’re working.
I truly believe this offense is holding back. They haven’t been behind yet so why take chances? Keep it simple until you can’t anymore. It keeps other teams from preparing for our more risky offensive plays which it doesn’t seem like we’ve used yet. I’m sure they have some plays that can net us big yards if we need them. My only concern is tie breakers based on points scored. If we win it’s not an issue but if the Jets or Pats are left with us at the end of the year then these low scoring games could hurt us. We might not need style points but based on the NFL’s tie breakers it wouldn’t hurt.
It’s a fine line and I’d prefer this strategy where teams can’t defend what they don’t know. The points will hopefully come for us sooner or later.
MVP of the game for me is Jake Long. The guy basically embarrassed one of, if not the best pure pass rushing DE in the league. Henne had plenty of time and the only time that Allen got to Henne is when Henne got a little to close to Allen.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 20, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions
Forward progress on the JA pick
I completely agree on the spot. That was an absolutely horrendous call.
Otherwise, agreed. Love most of your stuff, saw.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
Forward progress caused the 1-yard line spot there. I agree with the ref.
The spot on the 4th-and-inches play was the horrendous call.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that was some BS there
no way he got a foot much less a yard
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Heaps of praised showered
I would like to see the training wheels come off Henne for next week but no complaints otherwise
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Most dominant game I ever saw by a left tackle.
Vontae is …Vontae. We are watching a star being born every week. What a thrill.
I think we saw a hint of how good our O-line can be. They were pretty dominant in their own right for most of the game. I like Incognito and Jerry.
Glad Hartline got involved. Like him or not, we are gonna need his head to be in a good place this year.
All in all, another “builder” game where pieces continue to fall in place. We have a lot more to go on than I thought we would after this game. That we did it against Favre and the Williams wall in their house is just all the more impressive.
I can’t stop staring at the AFC East standings. What fun to be a Dolphan since ’08. My favorite era has been these recent years. Lovin my PHINS!!
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by snook36 on Sep 20, 2010 9:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why we get to play the "deciver's" team next, fake punt, kick, spike. Trifecta of deception!
Oh yeah who’s jake, playing against next week. We can make him better, faster, what about there 6 million dollar man on defense?
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 20, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions
Plain and Simple, AWESOME
Awesome Win by the fins. VD is gonna be a superstar, I absolutely love how he tackles. Our D kicked some serious A$$, our O looked like it was holding back. I do pray that this is the case. Next week is huge IMHO. It will help set the tone for the rest of the season.
I want to see our O stretch the field as much as anyone, but I do hope we run the jets D into the ground, just brutalize them with a smash mouth running game, Rexxie prides himself so much on his D, lets use our new OLINE to manhandle the Jets front 7, and just when they start adjusting to stop our R&R express, unleash the Beast….
I know alot of people are hoping for some high flying offense, against any other team, yes, but against these jets, lets pound them into the groud with a Brutal groud game.
great to see everyone writing trash on the Gang Green Site!!
Just looked on the JETS site! Lots of us Phins fans writing trash about Revis Ryan and the jets! Lets keep it up!!
I don’t see them writing much here. I guess theyare not smart enough to know how to do it!!!
Lets make it a quick 3 – 0. Go PHINS!!
BTW, does anyone know how to get our old fight song back!!!!!!!!!!
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 20, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on now..
we’re already trash-talking them? Have some class guys.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
And you can tell from my name I have plenty of opportunities.
by JerseyGuy77 on Sep 20, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
+2
I live in New York and I don’t mind making fun of Jets fans here but not making an Ass of myself there
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
When we beat the Jets 2-0 this season
This is all the trash talk we need, let them talk all they want, I would rather see the fins dominate the Jets on the field rather than with words…
I hate the Jets!!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
.... but it's more appropo here.... no?
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Well ok.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
OK!
I hate the Jets. When they lose and I see the cover (sports side) of the Daily News with some oh so snappy new york headline about how much they suck it works better then coffee (and the reverse).
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Yes, we all hate the jets.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami had a fight song?
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we need it back
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That win set the tone.
Our team now believes they are a force capable of winning football games. Visualization is the key to making champions. We could not have had a better beginning to the season.
I love that Jared Allen was completely stopped all day.
Jake Long is an unsung hero from yesterday. When one of the best pass rushers in the game, is only able to celebrate after tackling someone for a 1 yard gain, you know your LT is doing a hell of a job.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Jake Long ERASED Jared Allen all day.
It was, perhaps, the most dominant game I have ever seen played by a left tackle.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
-Dan Birdwell
I like the disrespect.....
That is going to leave the good ol chip on our shoulder. I’d rather stay away from the attention which will eventually put more pressure on us. Let’s keep stacking win and keep hearing about how sanchez looks like brady lol. Keep glorifying a 1-1 team while we sit pretty!
Last time I hear we were 2-0 against hollywood...
OH YEAH WE HAVE THAT BITCHES NUMBER!!!!!!!!!
by GoNuckingFuts on Sep 20, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a new Season
Lets go in and dominate both sides, I hope we are “PUMPED UP” for this game, from all that can be said about the Jets, They will bring their game, so the Fins better be prepared…
I have faith in the coaching staff to have our guys ready to GO
Dolphins Defense and Wildcat
The Dolphins Defense is trailing the dolphins offense by a score of 20-9 for the year, but also lets keep in mind the defense would be winning that battle if Sapp or J. Allen catch those sure INT’s in Game 1. Not complaining just pointing out an incredible stat.
I have no worries that the Dolphins offense will start gelling soon. As Matty said the wildcat is a weapon and the Jets simply could not stop it last year on MNF. They are going to have to prepare for it all week and that makes it effective in itself. I think it can be very useful against an aggresive defense like the Jets and am interesting to see what the offense coaches come up with to keep the Jets aggresive defense at bay.
One other thing I hate the Jets.
My take on things
For all those bashing Chad Henne,
You know what he didn’t throw any INT’s yesterday. At an opposing team’s home field, one of the loudest stadiums in the league. To me that is progress. It’s now been 2 weeks straight without any INT’s from Henne. Give the kid a break. I know every one wants to see the big strike downfield but its only been 2 games. Have a little patience!!! It will come!!! Let’s see what happens next week when we face the JEST in Miami. I can’t wait!!!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That's it?!
That’s all you have to say on the synopsis of the win?!
You do have a way with words tho…. and arrows… lol
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao.... ty
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Totally agree
with calling a passing play on that 3rd and 3 late in the game. But….I thought we should have run a play action rollout, because it gives Henne the opportunity to execute in one of his favorite plays, and if nothing is there he can run and slide. Whether he gets the first down or not, the play doesn’t stop the clock and forces the Vikings to take their final TO. The only way a rollout play would have stopped the clock is if Henne makes a bad decision to throw to a covered receiver, just throws a bad pass or the receiver drops the ball. But all that is needed to keep the clock going is for Henne to make a smart decision, whether by hitting an easy pass to an open receiver or running it.
Glad you are "respecting" fields
I am happy when the third phase of the game gets mentioned especially when he should get credit along there with wake and misi for having pinned the vikings back by their endzone to begin with!
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
And for the Love of GOD we need a better short hand
for Vontae Davis than VD
Although the jokes we can make are pretty good if deranged. (something about covering WRs like a condom?)
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Before you boner, cover that corner...
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Secondary
Like how its shaping up, especially if Allen keeps it up and Smith embraces his role. He had Shiancoe on lockdown on the last play for Minnesota. Clemons doing great. Remember last year whenever an opposing quarterback would wind up and throw it deep, and when the ball was in the air you’d just cringe because you knew Gibril Wilson was going to be about 15 yards behind the receiver? So far this year, on those deep passes I’ve seen the corner there almost every time, and there’s always one other guy….Clemons.
I think were playing alot more Cover 3 this year
Our corners know they dont have safety help so they’re not letting their WR get behind them. Last year Wilson was so bad even if the corner thought they had safety help they really didnt
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets Go D!
I’m, really loving this Defense. The Offense needs to step it up and henne needs to either sidearm or soft toss to the TE next time because he had several balls batted down.
Very happy with this season's start
I just really hope Miami comes out even more fired up next week!!! These next 2 games in our division are really key!! The emotion has to be shown even more next week!!
That's two on the road.... two at different houses....
Where’s my CLS people? Aww, are they starting to peek one eye out of the ground now…. aww.
Who’s on the train now, huh? Choo Choo.
The Miami Dolphins… returning their No-Name Defense?!
They must protect their house against da Jests on Monday Night Football..!!
Nice synopsis Matty…. so much easier on a win….
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everybody the game is sunday night
not monday. Stupid Dan Patrick confusd our fanbase when he said monday night. We play the pats on monday night, jets on sunday.
Oh yeah... thanks
Stupid Dan Patrick.
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Dan Henning MUST GO!!!!
I’ve said this for 2 years now….Dan Henning ONLY has this job because of his ties with Parcell’s. He’s followed Parcell’s around this league forever, hanging on to his coat tails. He’s a TERRIBLE play caller and he should be let go before long. He’s an overrated offensive coordinator!!! And before anyone says that HE instituted the “Wildcat,” IT WASN’T!!! It was designed and developed by the QB’s coach!! He simply must be fired if this team ever wants to truly beat another team on the field with our offense. He’s slow to adjust to the other teams defensive schemes. He’s slow to get into the flow of the game. Heck, he’s sooooooo slow, that I bet it takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes!!! Get rid of this guy if we truly want to be one of the ELITE teams, in the NFL!!!!
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Great post Matty
I agree with you about the third down call, first down there and its over, try to surprise them by throwing. Like Herm Edwards said, you play to win the game haha.
Two road wins is impressive, its the nfl, any given sunday.
Also props to Sean Smith for his coverage on 4th down. Nobody covered Shiancoe well all game, There was nowhere for that ball to go on the last play!
+1
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 20, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
On respect
If the victories keep coming we will earn respect. I heard some good things about the defense during the Sunday night game. Very aggressive and hard hitting!!
Challenge call
Was anyone else severely disappointed in the HC’s decision not to challenge that call on the 4th down where Minnesota clearly didn’t get it but were given a great spot? I was very very angry at that point as i thought it showed no respect for the great play the defense had made….
There was no TV shot that showed the ball hasn't moved those 10 inches the refs gave.
It was a waste of a challenge.But it was a breather for the D.
I think Sparano were preparing in case of a worst case scenario in which the O had to win the game.
I got it wrong Tebow was a 1st rounder... Mau you won on this one... Damn!
I was mad
But it wouldn’t have gotten overturned…. Couldn’t see in the big pile of players… Pretty bad spot though!
TO
I’m sure wasting the Timeouts was key to his decision but I thought that would’ve been a dagger at that point because of the way the game was going. Again its a judgement call but show your D you believe they did it and then suffer the consequences of arguing after the game if the Ref’s still blow the call (as it seems they had in the first place).
by JerseyGuy77 on Sep 20, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Loving this defense
They will give us plenty of chances to win this season. Matty, Wake will have 20 + sacks :) I’ve been calling it all offseason.
Also I didn’t notice Smith lining up on TE’s until the last play. I know I saw him out there a few times during the game. But if he can covers TE’s like that last play. WOW! We will have no weaknesses on D. And I feel his body is best made for that job.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
Haha, G-zus
Imagine having VD covering their #1/vertical speed threats, Jason Allen covering slightly larger intermediate threats, Benny Sapp on quick slants/the slot, and Sean Smith on the athletic TE.
Holy.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
the one major negative in this if they run the ball on that lineup we will be in trouble
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yea.
It will have to be well timed like it was that last play.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
Just talking pass defense though.
On obvious passing downs. Of course, that’s where a play-action could hurt, but I was more picking which player would cover which routes, and we play matchups far too well.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Graham's Brilliant Analysis
The Vikings are actually an awful team (even though we told you otherwise the entire offseason), so the Dolphins beating them doesn’t mean anything. Don’t get excited by 2-0, because every time you win, the other team is awful and overrated.
That’s just paraphrasing.
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Fire Dan Henning! Still.
Tim Graham is the most intelligent man in the history of analysis
and you’re a hatter if you think otherwise.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 20, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
notice the very same blogger
has an entry more of less “crowning” Mark Sanchez after the NE game….despite the fact the guy looked completely overmatched last week.
This is why I read all sports media with an amused perspective.
Seriously, read it for the laughs while occasionally you find something worthwhile.
Yeah its not that the Pat D is awful.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew this was going to be said when we won
I said we won’t get any respect until we beat the next two teams. Thank God for the phinsider, with a (Ph).
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
LOL I was just reading that
The guy picked the Jets to win the Division and NE as second. What would you say in his place? “I screwed it, Miami is the real deal”. Now even when he looks just idiotic writing what he wrote he has to stick to his guns.
Thruth is we could win close games all season… while WINS I don’t give a dam.
I got it wrong Tebow was a 1st rounder... Mau you won on this one... Damn!
What do you expect from Graham?
When he said at the start of the off-season that Sanchez was better than Henne…
Am I the only one who thinks that sports pundits (ALL of them!) latch on to an opinion and it virtually takes an act of God to make them see reason?
So, as long as Sanchez looks even remotely like the 5th pick of the 2009 draft, and as long as he can keep being as inconsistent as he’s been—bad one game, good the next—then folks lijke Graham will keep on saying how good and a “leader” Sanchez is, and Henne, not so much.
I don’t think it’s Graham hating on the Fins as much as its drinking the Jets Kool-aid.
Favre fears 21
BTW Brett, 21 has a name..Vonte Davis
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Mr. Davis
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.... or as they say in Mississippi.... Senior Davis....
Wait, what?
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I'm sure he meant no disrespect...
although I don’t like him indicated they lost and not the fins won.
by JerseyGuy77 on Sep 20, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Still the negativity is killing me!!
I took a peck over at some other websites. God the negativity of our so-called fans. God forbid if Miami actually wins against the Jets and the Pats. Will these fans still be calling for Henning and Henne’s heads??
the reson is because....
I know, bad grammar…
anyway, here’s why the hate will continue on Henne and Henning—Henning isn’t Cam Cameron as an offensive co-ordinator, and Henne isn’t Dan Marino.
But he’s becoming more like Bob Griese—you know, the guy who won two Super Bowls…That’s what you get when your OC tells you not to throw INTS and Chad Pennington is your mentor…
My thoughts (and sorry if I repeat anything others have said)
1) We have the one of the best sets of CBs in the league. Our Nickel is Sean Smith
2) I hated the gameplan, even though I literally do not know what I’m talking about because IT WORKED. The only reasons a few of us had to change our underwear yesterday was due to 2 red zone fumbles. If those fumbles don’t happen, this was a PERFECT execution of the strategy. But I still wanted Henne to air it out, I just have to be confident that they will eventually.
3) JAKE LONG — I can’t believe he isn’t mentioned here?! HE MAN-HANDLED THE BEST DE IN THE LEAGUE. Granted, one of the tricks to taking Jared Allen out of the game was only giving Henne 15 attempts, but still, Jake Long OWNED.
4) This is a textbook playoff team right here — a solid running game with a tenacious defense. If the coaching staff will allow Henne to develop into a passer, we can DEFINITELY be talking about conference championships and SB fingers crossed
Think Smith will be out there a whole lot more now.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 20, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said, and...
The only reasons a few of us had to change our underwear yesterday was due to….
LMAO
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Field Position
1) I give credit to the punting team for covering kicks and pinning the Vikings several times. The fact that the Vikings starting field position was so bad during the coure of that game i think was the number one contributing factor to the win.
2) The offense did put up a lot of points but they changes the field position when they started on inside thier 5 with the big run by Ronnie Brown – that was a huge play even though they didn;t convert and score points the change of field position was big.
3) Obviously the Defense played great. Adrian Peterson is a hec of a player and he got his yards – but kudos on 4th down lock down
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 20, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
I have been repeating my mantra
Fields should get a piece of the credit for that Endzone fumble recovery.
Would it be wierd if I bought a Fields Jersey? Orange of course :)
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LOL It would be unique.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Kick returns???
Whats up with Clifton Smith? Haven’t seen him do anything back there returning kicks. Is he really our best option?
Poor blocking. Its not his fault.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
and he hasnt really had much of an oppurtunity
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 20, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know about the blocking -
but i see no explosiveness – is the guy healthy? it doens’t look like he has the burst of a pro bowl receiver.
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 21, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I also liked the third down call late
in the call. Vikings seemed to be stacking the box late in the game, and with good reason. How about the idea of having Smith covering athetic tight ends. Maybe he can’t cover the slot, but he can man up against the tight ends. One of the few players in league with both the size and athletism to cover those type of tight ends. With the way Vontae Davis and Jason Allen are playing he may not see the field any other way. How clutch was that stop on fourth down? Anybody see Shaincoe vying for the pi call. What a joke. Smith couldn’ have played that any better. Good to see that from him.
No dancing in the streets yet...............
Been a fan over forty years, loving the first two wins, but the next two games will show if the Fins are contenders or not. Gotta RUN the ball, all game long, and then let Henne take his shots. Control the clock, let the Defense get some rest, then take out the other team in the fourth quarter, close things out……..GO FINS
Wildcat IS still dangerous
ust needs to be used a bit more sparingly…and maybe not against the front four of the vikings many times. also with the wildcat, need to have more fakes to ricky running across, when that doesnt happen its pretty obvious what ronnie is going to do…or maybe have him throw a quick pass if the defense collapses, should keep the middle linebackers more honest
I agree with this whole comment
the motion is what springs Ronnie inside because the defense reacts. And I believe it should be used only in short-yardage and goal-line situations, because that’s where the threat of a pass doesn’t help much, and the ability to power-run is paramount.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 20, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wildcat
I can’t stand the wildcat anymore. Since we now have marshall i think that needs to be our bread and butter. The wildcat doesn’t really even work anymore unless we see some unexpected wrinkles. It’s killing our drives, so unless ronnie throws it more to keep the d honest, I’m not liking it
Ronnie Brown is my hero.
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"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Let's kick their ass and get the hell out of here!" -- General George Armstrong Custer
most definetly alph
he moved out a was pissing him off after week one and sanchezs performance
Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club. Its all about Da U! jumping on board Chris's Laron Byrd bandwagon a year early.
by jojo phin fan on Sep 20, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
the wildcat is still viable
if they put some of the passing plays back into it or a fleaflicker back to chad, at least it would keep their defense guessing
and i wonder
how good is henne at catching?? when he goes out in th w r position on wildcat formations no one is even looking at him hmmmm trick play to beat all henne becomes a receiver just a brainstorm(probably a brainfart lol)
Patience is wearing thin
After seeing Brandon’s reaction to that last incomplete pass in the game, our next game against the Jets need to be a coming out party for our offense.
THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-
The offense isn’t going to have a coming out party against the jets. Not happening. Lets not forget their defense is pretty good. We may save that party for the Pats.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
by 54 on Sep 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think your right there 54
Even without Revis the jets will have an okay corner in Cromartie on Marshall with a safety overtop on most plays. If our run game doesnt come through we’re gonna have a tough time on offense
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 20, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
We will have enough for the win. Just not a dominating performance.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
by 54 on Sep 20, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I for one am very glad the media already is giving the upcoming game to the Jets...
Seriously…. I’m sure our defense will also count that as " Disrespect " too…You see there is no better motivator than to cast doubt on an unpopular team like the Fins. Miami happens to " Not " be a media darling that teams like Dallas, New Orleans, and the Jets obviously are and that’s just fine with me. I hope people keep on disrespecting us all damn season !!!!! Because we are responding to it with a win !
Jimbo
I for one am very glad the media already is giving the upcoming game to the Jets…I’m sure our defense will also count that as " Disrespect " too
Feed the wolf!
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.
by 54 on Sep 20, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Cant wait to beat the jets!!
And man I love vontae. He’s quickly becoming my favriote player. I am def getting a davis jersey!!
Dolphins look good at 2 and 0.
But don’t they realize they were not supposed to win?
The experts said so.
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
LOL... good one.
Hey, do the Dolphins players feed you?
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Let's kick their ass and get the hell out of here!" -- General George Armstrong Custer
Dude honestly I loved the game from our defense (as everyone said)
But the Wildcat has to go
Did you notice that this is the pace of our offense
luls run on first down
luls wildcat on second down
ok henne convert third and long
I know it’s been enough to win and I’m happy he hasn’t been throwing INTS but Dan Henning needs to open the playbook even more. We all know what Henne is capable of….
When is the last time we called 3 passes in a row? Have we ever even called 2 passes in a row?
I want to throw the ball at least 25 times in a game and eliminate the wildcat unless we are on the goalline or in short yardage situation
Leader of the "Guys we are not getting Mark Ingram" bandwagon
ok
this is going to sound weird…but what is luls???
by unklphinnie on Sep 20, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Its like lulz
except less curropted
mostly to signify trolling or something really stupid (as it is in this case)
Leader of the "Guys we are not getting Mark Ingram" bandwagon
geeze...ok
what is lulz? I am a twitter/chat lingo whatever you call it dummy…i dont know what half the shit is…whats smh
LOVING THE D.... BUT
OFFENSE HAS BEEN WAY TOO CONSERVATIVE!!!! HOW ABOUT THROWING THE BALL A LITTLE MORE ON FIRST DOWN AGAINST A GOOD RUN DEFENSE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PROTECT A FOUR POINT LEAD WITH 7 MINUTES TO PLAY???? AND DO NOT ABANDON WILDCAT BUT USE IT MORE IN KEY SITUATIONS LIKE WHEN YOUR BACKED UP INSIDE YOUR OWN 20 YD LINE LATE IN THE GAME TRYING TO PROTECT A FOUR POINT LEAD!!!!!!!!!!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Dam...did you see..
The big man Jake long handle Allen… Thats not an easy task but he kept him frozen dam near all night. I think we should keep Soliai at nose and let Starks Continue to wreak havoc for a while.. (I like OdricK Though) Also…this Jason Allen thing is tripping me out…The lights finally came on (Yay). Dansby is worth every dam dime we paid him.Im thinking this Jets game is gonna be A real war, Im just glad to Know we are coming in ready to fight…GENTLEMEN WE HAVE A TEAM……Go Phins>>
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