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Defense leads the way as Dolphins leave Buffalo with a win

Koa Misi was one of many who helped this Miami defense dominate on Sunday.

Heading into Sunday's season opener, most Dolphin fans agreed that this game in Buffalo was really a "must win" for the Dolphins. They have a very tough first nine games of the season and have been notoriously slow starters under head coach Tony Sparano. Sparano himself was clearly emphasizing how important it was for his team to get off to a fast start when he left most of his starters in for an extended period of time a week ago in Dallas in the preseason finale.

Well it wasn't a very "pretty" win for the Dolphins on Sunday. But the NFL doesn't give style points - a win is a win. And considering the Dolphins have not won a road opener since 2003 nor have they won in Buffalo since '03, I can live with Sunday's "ugly" win. After the game, Sparano said it best:

"It feels great to be 1-0. Great. First step. A good first step. Validates some of the things that we've been talking about."

Nolan's defense makes a statement
I'm aware that you have to preface this by remembering that this performance was against a below-average offense. Still, we got our first glimpse of the "real" Mike Nolan defense on Sunday. And you have to be impressed by what you saw.

For those of us who got to see the game, it was clear how dominant (and that's not a word I throw around lightly) Miami's defense was against Buffalo's mostly inept offense. But if you're someone who likes stats, then here are a few I have for you to drill home this point. The Bills ran 54 plays and gained 166 yards, a paltry 3.07 yard-per-play average. But if you take away the one no-huddle scoring drive the Bills put together, the Dolphins allowed the Bills to gain just 81 yards on 44 total plays combined over those other 11 possessions - an average of just 1.84 yards per play. And Buffalo failed to pick up a first down on 8 of their 12 possessions.

That's dominance on defense. Or total ineptitude by the offense. Or some combination of the two.

Star-divide

However you want to classify it, there is one thing that you can call Sunday's performance by this Dolphin defense: a statement. For the first time, we saw the kind of defense that new defensive coordinator Mike Nolan likes to employ - a physical, aggressive, attacking defense - a far cry from Paul Pasqualoni's passive defense these past two seasons.

We saw a front seven totally dominate Buffalo's offensive line. They were all over when any of Buffalo's three talented backs touched the football - holding Buffalo's big three to just 38 yards rushing on 13 carries. And when Trent Edwards dropped back, this Miami front seven was relentless in getting to him, clearly never letting Edwards get comfortable back there in the pocket.

A number of defensive performances deserve to be quickly highlighted:

  • Making his debut as a Dolphin, it's clear to see why the Dolphins paid Karlos Dansby big money to come to Miami. He's the kind of linebacker that this franchise hasn't had in some time. His versatility is really remarkable and will be a huge asset to Mike Nolan as he develops this defense. He was tied for the team lead with 8 tackles, was able to drop into coverage when asked, and totaled 3 hits on Trent Edwards - including a vicious sack on Edwards that set the tone for the entire game. Expect this to become a trend.
  • Yeremiah Bell is the other key cog in Mike Nolan's defense. Nolan used him in a variety of ways on Sunday, lining him up all over the field. Bell ended the day with 8 tackles, a quarterback hit, and a tackle for a loss. After Dansby, Bell is probably the most important player to this defense and I expect to see these kinds of performances regularly from Yeremiah.
  • Cameron Wake and Koa Misi quickly made us all forget about those two "old" outside linebackers that were here last year. These two were consistently disruptive all game long. Each got their first sack of 2010. Misi added another QB hit to go with 4 tackles while Wake added another tackle for loss and QB hit to go with 3 tackles. Perhaps more impressive, though, was the ability of both outside linebackers to set the edge - something that has been a major question mark this offseason.
  • Chris Clemons finally flashed after doing very little in four preseason games. He was physical and made sure he got the ball carrier down. I wonder how many of those tackles made by Clemons would have resulted in big plays for Buffalo if Gibril Wilson was still back there for this team. Of the five tackles made by Clemons, two were made behind the line of scrimmage - an impressive figure for a free safety like Clemons.

Offense is sluggish but does "enough"
Sluggish may have been putting it mildly. There's no arguing that this Dolphins' offense did not look very good on Sunday against a defense that isn't exactly among the NFL's best. And I agree that if this offense performs similarly next weekend in Minnesota, we are all probably in for a long afternoon.

Chad Henne said after the game that though the offense wasn't firing on all cylinders, they did "enough" to win. But I found myself wondering why, for example, Henne attempted very few passes over 10 yards. It seemed like Henne was tentative all game long. A number of times, Henne was given time to throw, scanned the field, and seemingly took the check down rather than going for the big play. Was that by design? Did the coaches tell him to avoid any risky throws at all costs? Or were there simply no receivers open down field?

We probably won't know for sure. What many fans want to do is criticize the play-calling of Dan Henning. Personally I'm not one to criticize play-calling - at least not at this point in the season. It's a tricky thing to do. After all, if the play works, then it's not a bad play call. So I'm not going to sit here and pick apart Henning's play-calling on Sunday.

What I will say is that I was disappointed in how conservative the offense was. However, for all we know, that might ave been the plan all along - to play conservative on offense in a windy stadium and a hostile environment. I'll take a "wait-and-see" approach before I jump on the Fire Henning bandwagon that continues to grow.

QUICK HITS
Some more quick thoughts on Sunday's win:

  • Did anyone else think Chad Henne looked very uncomfortable on Sunday? On some plays, it seemed like he went through his progressions and settled for the check down too quickly. On other plays, it seemed like he locked onto the primary receiver for far too long. Then he'd make a beautiful pass like the perfectly placed and well timed touch pass to Anthony Fasano that set up Ronnie Brown's touchdown. Then he'd underthrow an open Brandon Marshall on a would-be long TD pass. Inconsistency. It's all part of the maturation process of a young quarterback. Regardless, I'm still firmly in Henne's corner - unlike some around these parts.
  • The offensive line remains a work in progress. I think communication remains an issue, with blitz pick-ups not being executed very well at times. But on the plus side, I saw a number of outstanding blocks in the running game as well as a number of plays where Henne had more than enough time to throw. Next week against that Viking defensive line, though, will be a very good barometer to judge where this unit is right now. That front four in Minnesota is among the NFL's best. I hope this unit is up to the challenge.
  • Ronnie Brown looked like his old self. And while I'm not going to say Ricky Williams looked bad, I was disappointed that Brown only got 2 of the 10 fourth quarter rushing attempts by the Dolphins. Most Dolphin fans are well aware of Ronnie's history of getting better as the game goes on. And he had just gained 17 yards on the first rushing attempt of the fourth quarter. Why then does Ricky get eight of the final nine carries of the game? Just wondering, that's all.
  • Brandon Marshall's 8 for 53 stat line is odd, isn't it? He sure does look good with the ball in his hands, though. I just wish he was catching passes a little bit farther down the field. But I'm assuming that will come in time. He's sure fun to watch after the catch, though, isn't he?
  • Davone Bess picked up right where he left off in 2009, converting two third downs - part of his 6 catch, 51 yard performance. He led the AFC in 3rd down conversion receptions a year ago and it's likely the addition of Marshall could make Bess even more effective on third down.
  • Brian Hartline didn't exactly have his best game, did he? But I'm not ready to throw in the towel on him right now. There's a reason he led this team in yards-per-catch and TD receptions last year.
  • Can we get these defensive backs on the JUGS machine a little bit more often? Please? No excuse for dropping easy interceptions. I'm looking at you, Benny Sapp and Jason Allen.
  • Sean Smith didn't play a single snap. Hmmm.
  • Jared Odrick was playing well - highlighted by that tackle of C.J. Spiller behind the line of scrimmage. But he left the game with a leg injury. After the game, it was revealed that he suffered a bone bruise to his right leg and was "limping badly" though he "managed to make it up a set of steep stairs on the way to the team bus." So we'll have to wait and see how much Odrick participates this week. Regardless, I'll be looking to see if the Dolphins decide to bring back one of the two veteran defensive linemen they released last week.
  • Brandon Fields redeemed himself for having a bad day by making the play of the game - a 48 yard punt that was downed at the one inch line. That punt pretty much did Buffalo in.
  • Miami only committed three penalties - still three too many in Tony Sparano's eyes.

Quote of the Day

"Better to learn from a win than to learn from a loss." - Center Joe Berger

I can't argue that. It wasn't an efficient win by any means. But it's a win.

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who is better? Bell or Dansby

It doesn’t matter they both played great! Damn it Henne that should of been a Td for marshall. I think the O line did a great job, but the vikings will be a real test

LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
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Henne please don't be good be Great

by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 5:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeremiah will ring your Bell if you cross him.

THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-

by fin4three5yrs on Sep 13, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Henne puts that ball where it should have been, nobody would be questioning Henne...

and it would have opened the game up for the Dolphins big time. I imagine they will practice that play all week as Henne should never underthrow a receiver.

Especially since we are playing the Vikings and we know that Favre likes to sling that ball around, so hopefully it means that the Dolphins will have to open up the passing game.

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if Marshall catches it, it isn't an issue either!

Then everyone would be raving about the Henne to Marshall connection. Don’t try to pin it on Henne….he got the ball to him, though not “perfectly” , but still good enough for a rare 40+ yard gain. Marshall just didn’t execute.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marshall shoulda had that ball

but i think henne should get more of the criticism because it was severely underthrown, marhsall shoulda had to run to get to it, not stop and come back

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other way around brother

At a minimum Marshall should have caught it. No excuse what so ever. It was an easy pass to catch and he has been dropping WAY TOO MANY passes preseason and in the 1st game of the regular season. That is either 9 or 10 total drops for the Beast in 5 games. That would have been a 40+ yard gain which would have put us in field goal range. Catching a ball like that is far easier than throwing the ball under pressure. That’s a difficult enough throw with no pressure…..and it damn sure isn’t a gimme at that distance. Combine the two, pressure and distance you are lucky to complete it 50% of the time ( I actually think the league average for passes over 40 yards is about 25%). That’s what makes Marshalls part even more important. If you are lucky enough to get it to the receiver on that 25% completion throw…the receiver HAS to catch it. It wasn’t like he got blasted by a safety coming across or had to tiptoe the sideline.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i guess you have a point

i don’t remember if Henne was pressured or not…and i agree that Marshall absolutely should have caught the ball, i’m blaming him also, but the top QBs in the league, P. Manning, Brady, Brees, make that throw, if Henne wants to be in that class that shoulda been a TD

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah there is a difference between wanting to be there and being there.

I would have loved to have seen him hit Marshall in stride, like he did Ginn against the Jets. But the truth is that it’s hard enough to do that on 15 yard passes in the NFL, yet alone 40+. Keep in mind this is their first year together and I think you will see the timing improve alot now that Henne is getting 90% of the snaps at QB and obviously Marshall will see most of the snaps at WR (now that we aren’t trying to figure out who makes and misses the cut).

I think by week 5, they will be much more fluid together.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Pot boy...

You know damn well that its unfair to compare Henny to Manning, Brady, or Brees at this point in his career….

And for the record, Henne was pressured on the play, and he couldn’t step into the throw fully.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey! can't call me that anymore

been 5 months since i toked the magical herb lol…i know it’s unfair to compare him to them and i wasn’t comparing him lol, what i’m saying is that if he wants to be at the level of those guys, that is a throw he has to make

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey! can’t call me that anymore
been 5 months since i toked the magical herb

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol is it really that hard to believe?

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes because its wrong so wrong

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by Weecho85 on Sep 13, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Yes it is. I am not sure how I feel about this yet.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats a CRIME!!!

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by Weecho85 on Sep 13, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you played football

That is not An EASY catch! with that being said he should of caught the damn ball! He wanted to score so he kept going forward while he turned around. he should of just stopped and caught it like a punt. And Henne was not pressured on that play. wtf is up with Hartline dropping passes

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I have

And when you go out making the money that Marshall is making, you damn well better make that catch, But my whole point was that if you are going to put blame on either Henne or Marshall for that play 80% of the blame goes to Marshall. If the ball hits you in the hands, you should have caught it…..especially if you are a professional WR that claims to be one of the best in the league.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get real man

why are you hating on Brandon Marshall?

the best thing to happen to the dolphins since…

Soon I am going to say something big time.

by DRoyce on Sep 14, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not hating on Marshall

I am not hating on anyone. My point is that we won the game…..and no one should be hating on anyone. But it is rediculous to say that blame for that play should lay on the shoulders of Henne. If people are hell bent on trying to blame Henne, I will continue to point out that Marshall should have caught the damn ball. I don’t give a rats ass how great he is supposed to be, if he was that great, he should have caught the ball.

And am I supposed to be nervous because you are “going to say something big time?” I just hope if you do, it will resemble an intelligent comment!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a matter of time

Marshall and Henne are improving on their coordination but this develops over time. I wish it did not take time but it does. Henne’s rockets are a little bit of a challenge to catch but so were Marinos – but the WR learn to catch it. Right now we have a really conservative “do not lose the game” approach to offense – run a lot, pass sparingly and safely and have the defense shut them down. Over time this will change. Meanwhile it just produced a win at a place where we have lost for five years – I am cool with the win.

by student1776 on Sep 13, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed that it takes time to learn to catch a rocket

but the throw we talking about wasn’t said rocket lol

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely agree

Its a win……what would we rather have had, Henne and Marshall make that play and we end up losing the game in the end?

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn't the only throw Henne missed on ...

I saw quite a few balls that were thrown at players’ feet. Short throws that he should have been able to make easily. I hear all this about his big arm and his accuracy. All I have seen so far is him throw a few fastballs at close range, and occasionally throw it deep. It doesn’t help to have a big arm if you are afraid to use it. Like Marino has told him on multiple occasions, “Pick a guy and let it fly.”

Yes, I admit I have CLS... which might actually be a good thing, I was positive we were going to win it all with Saban, then with Cam ... and even last season... I wasn't expecting much in 2008 though ... Hopefully its unfounded ... we will see....

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 13, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not saying Henne is perfect

But there were 5 more drops in this game. I am pretty sure that Henne has had more drops of catchable balls in the preseason and through game 1 than any other QB this year. He is really only playing in his 2nd year (yes I know he is a 3rd year qb) and what 2nd year QB do you really see as being better than him? He can’t make up for the fact that Henning calls the plays and the WRs have to catch the ball.

He is going to make bad throws…just like Aaron Rodgers did yesterday and every other QB will. As long as the good throws outnumber the bad ones and the TDs outnumber the INTs, and the wins outnumber the losses, what more can we ask for??

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 rings on his fingers?

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 rings on his fingers?

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

PotM

Until you either get a new keyboard or a new computer and stop double, triple, and I don’t remember how many time it was on one particular case (I think like 8 reposts) I am not going to respond to you anymore.

I am sure that if you ask, someone on this site has an extra keyboard that isn’t needed that we can send you!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

no comment

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

dansby

bar none

WE GOT BRANDON MARSHALL!!!!!
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by finzrule on Sep 13, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup dansby

but bell was hitting people left and right

LETS GO HEAT!!!!!!!
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Henne please don't be good be Great

by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feed Ronnie Brown, I can see the hunger in his eyes.

THE 70,S ARE FINALLY BACK. WELCOME TO THE FINS NEW SB ERA, 2010-

by fin4three5yrs on Sep 13, 2010 6:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Plus we need to get some miles out of him

before his inevitable season ending injury

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by Phinatics on Sep 13, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's just unnecessary.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 13, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just try being positive. Its good for you.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. He looked fired up yesterday.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think Omar will stop being a D-Bag and

And stop calling Misi “The Player” or “#55” in his articles?

Dolphins and Gators baby!

by gatorfin on Sep 13, 2010 6:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty sure he said he'd stop once Misi got a sack

Bet he didn’t think it would be week 1, doing garbage like that is him setting himself up to say “I told you so” if Misi didn’t pan out

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Misi and The Reporter

Well, Misi earned respect for week one. The Reporter however will continue to be referred to by this name until he puts out a respectable article…

by Finhead83 on Sep 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Hunger

Yea i see it to. Looks like Ricky is a little heavier and little slower but still looks great. Maybe they dont want brown injured again and gave the ball to ricky late. Weather someone has 20 carries or 13 carries it only takes 1 carry to get hurt. Feed the Beast!!! Oh wait who is the beast, we have 3. And if it wasn’t for 1 underthrown ball we would of had a great day. but thats all it takes in the NFL 1 play will make the difference, just ask the Lions they were robbed.

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 6:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Ricky was always kinda stocky IMO

I think they were using him as a late game bruiser effect

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they like using Ricky in the 4th quarter because he has the ability to "BREAK IT"

as to where if Ronnie gets to the open field, he usually gets taken down from behind.

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 13, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like someone takes an angle, but yes.

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he gets caught

which is the point

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 13, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i said

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Win, and I'll Take it

I actually got to see the game yesterday…Dolphins games aren’t usually on up here. I was most impressed with the defense…even if Buffalo’s offense was pretty anemic.

The optimist in me thinks that they didn’t want to let loose too much in Buffalo…there were those two ‘should have been’ interceptions…and BM should have caught that ball, even if it was slightly underthrown….it will be interesting to see how they adjust to Farve and the Vikings…

That being said…I think that this year, instead of the defense blowing a couple of wins we should have had…they’re going to give us wins perhaps we shouldn’t get.

by cordy_1971 on Sep 13, 2010 7:00 AM EDT reply actions  

A win is a win

I can’t help but think they were playing conservative on Offence yesterday… Saving the big stuff for home opener maybe?

by Rickslilpiece on Sep 13, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truly, I hope that's the case!

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it Matty

but its just a matter of time until Henning cost us a big game with his idiotic play calling. Its not even that he doesn’t go deep (though I would like to see it more) its that he passes on a 2nd and 5 with 2 minutes left and all we need is a first down. We have a great running game against a poor run defense. I don’t get it ? Luckily it didn’t bite us

by NFG660cc on Sep 13, 2010 7:09 AM EDT reply actions  

That was an audible called by Chad Henne.

I’m certainly not defending Dan Henning, but I like to place the responsibility where it’s supposed to be.

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by kdock on Sep 13, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

he already cost us the colts game last year

we had the ball with 2:30 or so

amd he ran the ball until 1:30 or so

thats just retarded

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by finzrule on Sep 13, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The refs

screwed us last year against the colts and saints

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else notice Polite being a little soft

I saw him just bump a LB who shrugged it off and made the play on Ronnie. He easily could have ran him out of the play (I don’t know if he thought Ronnie would cut back inside or what

by NFG660cc on Sep 13, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I did see that...

Saw Brandon Marshall do some decent blocking …there was one hit where he just nailed the guy…

by cordy_1971 on Sep 13, 2010 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that and after the replay I think he expected Ronnie to turn upfield.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless, you nail that guy and put him down no matter where the HB is going

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by Phinatics on Sep 13, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

As well, sometimes additional downfield blocking might be

part of the plan.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah cause Ronnie would have lost that one other yard

You take the hit and put the guy down. Plus Louie isnt the type to whiff a block. As for the down field blocking, lotta good that does when you barely get out of the backfield. Always put the defender down, I don’t care what the plan is!

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by Phinatics on Sep 13, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was soft on that play

But he was expecting Ronnie to cut back inside on that. Not defending him, but if Ronnie would have cut back, it would be a non factor. The rest of the game he was blocking like last years form, or close to it.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm inclined to agree

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wake 2 pass defended

Anyone realize that put him up with the league leaders! i just thought that was cool for our pass rusher

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 7:26 AM EDT reply actions  

misi got a sack

he wasn’t putting the pressure on the qb like wake did. Misi sack was a coverage sack

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

D RULED

Henne made me want to puke. Can anyone really say, that the Robot didn’t look like his name. I’m still waiting for “The Cannon Arm” to connect with a pass longer than 10 yds. Wake me, when/if , it happens , please. I’m not a fan of Henning either, but I don’t believe he called all those dump off passes.

by tony goodstuff on Sep 13, 2010 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

The best part of Buffalo is their secondary

 They have a great secondary and t forced a lot of underneath passes. Henne didn’t throw a pick which is a huge improvement from last year against the Bills.

by Pirate25 on Sep 13, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

#2 secondary in the league last year,

Thats what happens when you have a good secondary and average linebackers (and after losing your #1 lineback) is alot of things open in the middle underneath (checkdowns)!!!

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

O Limted

There was plenty of mustard on a lot of short pass incompletions yesterday. I think the o-line development (or lack thereof) played a factor, in that, Henne had to check down and throw in a hurry with the Buffalo rush in his face.

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by OntheGo on Sep 13, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i really liked marshall

even with the couple of drops he had. if Henne hits him on the long pass play. (where he beat a double team badly….by like 3 or 4 yards) his numbers look like this….9 catches for 120 yard and a TD. but maybe the best play marshall made was the crackback block he put on that DB. man that was a nice hit. he sent the guy into next week. Marshall is as good as advertised!

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by frostyphinfan on Sep 13, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I Tivo'd that hit like 9 times

What a thing of beauty.

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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on Sep 13, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

When he stops dropping the ball as often as he has in pre-season and the 1st game

Then I will believe he is as good as advertised. Until then, he is a great blocker and has good moves with the football in his hands.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had one drop

and would have had to been perfect to make that catch. underthrown ball. stopped on a dime, turned around, falling back with two defenders coming at you full speed. not that easy. not excusing him because it still hit his hands, but give him a break.

by dhall25 on Sep 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

He did everything he could have to catch that deep ball, he had to stop on a dime and shift back so quick… I mean he even lost his cleat on that shit… But Henne needs to be more careful, he left recievers in really bad posistions to be clocked.

by Bostonboy on Sep 13, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, and the ball was real low when it hit his hands....

not really conducive to “pulling it in”

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did everything except catch the ball

Would Michael Irving have caught that ball…I think yes. Would Jerry Rice have caught that ball….yes.

Bottom line is that he should have caught that ball, not every ball is going to be perfect….especially a ball thrown 40+ yards down the field under pressure.

While i am not really fully blaming Marshall ( I don’t like blaming anyone for anything in a win) i think that out of the two (Marshall and Henne) Marshall should get about 80% of the blame. Especially when Marshall signed a contract making him one of the top paid WRs in the league.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marshall had 11 drops in 2009.

and i believe he’s consistently had between 8-10 drops per season.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marshall

From what I’ve seen, Marshall had 7 dropped passes in 2009, tied for 16th. Interesting enough, Santonio Holmes was #3 in the NFL with dropped passes, 1 behind Dwayne Bowe and Vernon Davis. Nice tandem with the stone hands in NY.

http://nationalpost.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2009&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232

by Finhead83 on Sep 13, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know....I expect 1 every other game

But I believe he is on pace (to include the preseason which I know doesn’t count…but when it’s happened there and in the regular season it means a little more) for 32 dropped passes. And neither of the 2 passes he dropped were difficult to catch.

But seriously, I am not bashing him. I love all our players this year until someone shows me that they don’t belong. I just haven’t seen that from anyone currently on our roster. Though I am questioning us signing that guy that was returning punts….Smith or something. Who the hell is he and why won’t me make like Forrest Gump and freaking RUN!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Henne looked comfortable to be honest...

He went through his progressions, and the only few times I saw him actually lock onto a receiver, was after he had gone thru his progressions and was looking for an outlet (usually he locked onto Ronnie or Bess)

The under thrown pass to Marshall, Henne was under a significant amount of pressure and didn’t get to step into the pass….that was all arm baby. But would’ve been nice if it had hit him in stride.

Hartline was invisible on the stat line, but there were several plays where he was wide open. One he had a good 5 yards on his man, and streaking downfield… but Henne got under pressure and scrambled to the other side and never saw him.

Wake, Misi, Clemons and Dansby looked fantastic……and (GULP), Jason Allen was impressive…. even if he did drop an easy pick 6 (same goes for Sapp).

The offense isn’t in mid season form yet….which of course is fine since its only the first game of the season. As far as the deep passing game goes, lets remind ourselves that Buffalo had the second best secondary in the league last year…. They had us well covered for most of the game, and almost all of the second half.

Our offensive line gave Henne all day to throw, the only place Henne really ever had pressure was up the middle….so I hope they address that this week.

Just my $2

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

$2, eh?

So this post is 100x better than everybody else’s cents? ;)

Actually, lol..

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by Dave.Phuller on Sep 13, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like coins :) lol...My opinion is always worth at least $2 :)

I hate to sell myself short hehe

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hartline wasn't invisible,

he had 2 drops.

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by uncle finster on Sep 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hartline was targeted 4 times...

First pass he was way underthrown.
Second pass he caught for 9 yards but was negated by penalty on Fasano
Third pass was underthrown (Henne was under pressure)
Fourth pass he dropped…

1 Drop my man…. and 1 catch negated by penalty.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just feel...

this was a problem that could have been and should have been addressed.

Brian Hartline simply lacks the talent and physical tools to be an NFL WR. He got all his stats during what we call “garbage time” last season.

He couldn’t have seen double coverage even once and he had 0 catches. If your gonig to play the card of “smart and dependable” then you should have 0 drops. Not 1 not 2 not 3. 0 drops because he can’t afford not to have the best hands as possible.

I just can’t even fathom how wonderful this offense would be with an accomplished, quick and talented WR to line up opposite of Brandon Marshall, I really can’t.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give Wallace some time to develop

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by The Earl on Sep 13, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine with me, I just think it should be more of an open competition

I don’t see why they need to dub Hartline the starter, he should have to earn even snap he takes.

Accountability system.

dropped ball= benched
bad route- benched
good block= more playing time
missed block- less playnig time

Theres no one even pushing the #2 WR positon. Healthy competition is needed!

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Wallace hasn't done anything...

he couldn’t even make the active roster…

by your thinking, shouldn’t we just cut him now? I mean he’s been in the league for a week… he should have Hall of Fame credentials by now.

He did earn every snap he takes….thats what you are missing. Are you going to bench Bess and Marshall for his drops? Henne for his inaccurate passes? Give me a break.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian Hartline has not earned anything

Brian Hartline has done absolutely NOTHING in his career and Brandon Marshall has caught 100 balls 3 years in a row. You can argue with me and say he led the team in Recieving Tds and as we know my response to you is that none of the Tds meant a single thing and we were losing by 21 each of those games or we were already eliminated from the playoffs. Darren McFadden had a great game yesterday too… (see the example here).

Brandon Marshall would never be benched because he is a physical freak and has caught 100 balls 3 years in a row.

I honestly believe that if you put out a survey in the NFL to the starting #2 CB that would typically cover the #2 WR on any NFL team would vote that Brian Hartline might be the guy they most look forward to playing. I really believe that.

So, my question to you guys is… what is it about Hartline that you actually LIKE? His blazing speed? His size? His great hands? His attitude? His leadership? How clutch he is? Get Serious. Seriously.

Put anyone else on the right side of that field and the guy is going to have 3 grabs MININUM by default because the guy on the other side of the field is the best WR in the NFL.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are seriously comparing Hartline to Marshall?

You know why Hartline doesn’t have 100 passes 3 years in a row?
CUZ HE JUST ENTERED THE LEAGUE MORON!

Wait, I amend my Moron comment (but I’m not deleting it)…. You aren’t a moron, you just don’t get football…

okay…Now, how did Marshall do in his 1st season in the league?
oh…20 catches, 309 Yards, 2 TD’s, and 1 Fumble….

Hartline had a better rookie season than Marshall….what does that mean? Nothing. But it also shows you that you can’t give up on a player after 1 freaking year.

By the way, since I like to look things up unlike you.
When Hartline scored against Buffalo in week 4, we were up 17-3, hardly a blow out.

His 2nd TD was against Buffalo again, and he scored in the 2nd quarter to bring the score to 7-0 Miami…. Not a blow out.

His 3rd TD came against New England, to his score made it 19-21 New England…once again not a blow out.

You realize there is this fascinating thing call the Internet, where you can actually look up stuff before you spout of ridiculous statements like:

<my response to you is that none of the Tds meant a single thing and we were losing by 21 each of those games or we were already eliminated from the playoffs/blockquote>

And on the last part, you realize we were in the playoff race even in Week 17 right? LOL….we weren’t eliminated until we lost the last game you idiot.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah but we went down 21-0 in the last game in 4 mins

or at least it felt like that.

Hence… eliminated.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was 27-10, then we scored 2 TD's

which made it 24-27, with 8 minutes, 32 seconds left to play…. hardly out of it.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Facts? Why must we use facts when we can just make up our own arguments?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh I get it.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

OUCH!!

DRoyce….balls back in your court brother!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Hartline has only played one season

In which he outperformed veterans who should have been better. He outperformed everyone but Bess on our own team.

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by The Earl on Sep 13, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Marshall would be benched in every game this year

He has dropped a ball in each preseason game and I believe that he had at least 2 drops yesterday. You want to bench him too DRoyce???

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Pennington wasn't the backup

I pormise you all the lil complainers would say a thing.

The QB didn’t have any TOs, we WON and they want to b*tch…lol

O wasn’t it wet and windy there too? Lets not bring that up. Didn’t the WRs have a couple og games during the preseason where Henne was tearing their chest up and they kept dropping? Lets not talk about those thing though.

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just get tired of all the negatives

I mean we learned in preseason that there are players that all of us dislike. But if you are going to bitch about someone doing something, then you should bitch about everyone that does that same thing. Marshall dropped more than Hartline and Marshall is supposedly a future HOFer right?

Personally I say we should all take the time to enjoy the freaking win, something that hasn’t happened on opening day in like 7 years. So what if Hartline dropped a bleeping ball, so did damn near every receiver on the team!!!

I mean I would understand it if we were a 13-0 team that had won the last 4 superbowls. If you are that good, you really have to search to find things to complain about. My only bitch about the whole game was going to the soft zone against the hurry up.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Applying this system

Brandon Marshall would be benched for dropping a pass and Jake Long would be benched for allowing a QB pressure. I don’t think Miami would end up doing very well if they benched a player for every mistake.

by Finhead83 on Sep 13, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Giving me more reason to push the ban on drinking (or burning bud) and blogging. The combination doesn’t work and you come out looking like a moron.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

for an easily replaceable WR that doesn't belong on an NFL field

I think the system would be pretty great. Because his physically tools are certainly not keeping him on the field. Thats for sure.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh so the rule should only apply to Hartline then right??

Because, even though I haven’t looked up the stats on it, but for the preseason and game 1 of the regular season, I am pretty sure that Marshall is leading the league in dropped passes.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he also catches the ball ;^J

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by uncle finster on Sep 14, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying Marshall doesn't catch the ball

Saying that he drops more than his share of passes. And I am ok with that. I am ok with players making a mistake.

My point is that DRoyce made the statement that if you drop a ball, or basically screw up, that the player should be benched. He was saying that in regards to Hartline. I simply said that if that is your logic than Marshall should be benched too.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

But..

Marshall also didn’t come from OSU so he gets more love from DRoyce…

by Finhead83 on Sep 17, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That argument doesn't wash at all...

Hartline produced last year at a level consistent or better than rookie WR’s. Especially #2 guys, and his stats did NOT come in Garbage time, thats a ridiculous argument. Exactly how many blow out games did we have last year? Stupid argument, you know it, I know it, everyone that read it knows it.

You over react to just about everything. Brian Hartline is not an elite WR, but he doesn’t have to be. He’s a #2. Remember Receivers take about 3 years to learn the game…. Oh yeah. In the meantime, he’s doing fine. He was open on several plays, he just didn’t get the ball tossed to him. There is more to the game, then what you see on TV.

Thinking any wide receiver (and this includes CAMARILLO) won’t have drops is a childish and uneducated vision of Football. They happen.

News flash: Not ever play on every roster of every team is going to the Hall of Fame, no matter how much Madden tells you differently.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well said

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

the fr8 train is a rollin’…and it just plowed through DRoyce (which was deserved in this case)

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by Dragon27az on Sep 13, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

im confused why u keep referring to

ESPN and Madden allt he time when I make arguments?

Considering I asked for Brandon Marshall first on the entire site and you guys all bashed me and I know more about football then just about everyone the mentioning of national sports media and recreation are way off base. Im not even trying to be a dick.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually Fr8 was one of the ones that agreed with you on Marshall.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty certain there wasn't anyone more vocal about getting

Marshall than me…

LOL

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I know this as well as anyone.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know this as well as anyone

because you we researching an OSU Special Team player that once played WR in High School and you wanted him to be our #1 WR?

Or was that Julius Pruit?

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does one have to do with the other? Stay on subject.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You and i had some good debates about it....

over several fan posts, a post card campaign, and a CKC or 3

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL It was not that bad. You could at least see my point but I also

said at the time it was all about the risk of two number 1’s that everyone said it was going to cost. In the end it amounted to a number 2 and given that we once gambled one of those on Pat White this seems like a better chance to take every day of the week.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I wasn't for it initially

At the cost of what Denver was supposedly asking. I was quite against it for a 1st and a 3rd this year.

Now when we made the move for a 2nd this year and 2nd next, I said by all means great trade.

But he still needs to start catching the ball! How are you going to criticize Hartline in his 2nd year make shit compared to BM for drops, but not say anything about all the drops Marshall is making.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

bc Brandon Marshall

drops, I forget about in literally .3 seconds because he’s the best WR in the NFL.

End of story.

Does he make up for it when he catches a 2 year pass and turns it into a 12 yard gain? Name someone else on the Dolphins that has the same abilities. Name someone in the NFL with the same abilities. His beast like movements are unmatchable and he is the best thing to happen to the Dolphins since …

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best WR in the NFL

Are you fucking kidding me?? Really? Excuse my french everyone because I rarely curse on here. But take the crack pipe out of your mouth DRoyce. There is no way that he is the best WR in the league. He may be the best blocking WR (at least this year….though I would still argue Hines Ward might hold that distinction) but he is not the best WR in the league. If you are arguing receptions, he isn’t even the best….that would go to Welker over the last 3 years. Are we talking TDs….because nope…that’s not his best either. Must be the Average per catch right??? Yikes…not that one either.

So you think he is better than Andre Johnson? Larry Fitz? No way on either account. Look at most of the passes he caught the previous years. They were alot like what he caught in game 1 for us. He catches a lot of short passes. He can’t stretch the field the way the others can. I will admit he is one of the top 3-5 WRs….but the best in the league?? Not with as many drops as that guy has.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say he is tied with those 2.

And if Calvin Johnson had an actual offense to play in then he would be in it too.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I put Marshall 3rd...

Andre Johnson
Fitzgerald
Marshall
Calvin Johnson…

and I love the guy.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that ranking. Marshall could overtake the

other two but at this time thats how it stands.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think thats right except

Andre 1a
Fitz 1b
Brandon Marshall 1c

Calvin Johnson 2

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will admit he is one of the most

If not the most dangerous WRs with the ball in open space. If you want to make that arguement, I will buy it. He is a beast with the ball in his hands. ANd is arguably the best combination of running with the ball and blocking…..not really sure how AJ is at blocking since I don’t watch alot of Texan games.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured :) no worries.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to go ahead and flag you for

intentional misrepresentation of football knowledge.

I throw the penalty based on:
 a) You not knowing when Hartline scored his TD’s
 b) You repeatedly calling Vincent Jackson a HORRIBLE receiver
 c) You not realizing that your own team was still in the playoff hunt in week 17 last year.
 d) You constant over reacting to every single situation.

Lots of offense dude, but you really aren’t demonstrating a clear understanding of the game of football. Not from a positional standpoint, not from an offensive or defensive standpoint, and certainly not from an informed perspective stand point.

I’ll be happy to alter my opinion of your opinions when you actually come with an argument that makes sense.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fr8train

I just found a pic of you and texascowpunk online.

its called lemonparty.com

the difference is I come on here to say how much I wish the Dolphins took Dez Bryant or got TO so I didn’t have to watch a pathetic, #4 Special teamer play on the Dolphins.

You guys spend hours upon hours on here. Its your life.

Don’t judge my opion that Brian Hartline sucks. I asked you why you think hes good. Vincent Jackson is the most overrated WR in the NFL (for the record)

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we really want to start this again Daniel?

Are you unable to debate like a man without the childish personal attacks?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no but you obviously can't jsut mind your own business

with a WIN

at the end of something that has absolutely nothing to do with you?

Btw, did you cringe everytime you saw the best WR catch the ball yesterday? I know it must have really hurt to see a “thug” on your Miami Dolphins… hardly.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can get right back it to this if you want to start acting like a

little child again.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt think so.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep pushing tiger.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

READY

next year…

Brian Hartline or Plaxico Burress?

THe sad part is that you guys would would be like BRIAN HARTLINE

PLAX IS A THUG, HE IS SUCH A THUG, A BAD TEAMMATE.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plaxico hasn't played in the NFL in years...

I have no interest in Plaxico….

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

no interest in Plaxico over

Brian Hartline?

you seriously could get a Brian Hartline clone in the last round of the NFL draft next year.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

He was a 4th rounder this year… so I doubt it.

Do you have anything to back up your ridiculous argument other than the hot air you are spewing?

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Plaxico in jail with a bullet hole in his foot?

*
… oooo that’s what I want….

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by Alpha6 on Sep 13, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alpha......LMAO

You are killing me bro. I am going to get in trouble here at work laughing at you. You have to control yourself.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no containing the Alpha!

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh boy....

We’ve been down this road, you know where it ends? With you completely freaking out thinking the Gestapo is going to knock down your door, and me asking Matty to close a thread and delete comments because po widdle DRoyce was scared shitless…..

Now that we’ve handled that.

Dez Bryant wasn’t who we picked, move on. I wanted Spiller, we didn’t get him… but I won’t cry about it for years to come. I would’ve been okay with TO, but that would’ve hindered the progress of our younger receivers….and I won’t cry about it. Cuz we didn’t get him.

And you have never ONCE, not a SINGLE TIME, supported your argument with any facts…not a single time. Your opinion, does not equal fact.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine

then lets just end the argument

I will proceed claiming that Brian Hartline sucks and will soon be replaced (the sooner the better).

And you simply disagree.

I guess I was just searching for someone that felt the same way.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for you to back up your Vincent Jackson opinion....

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets just end it.

you have failed to change my opinion on Brian Hartline aka Brandon Stokley (right now at his age, not the one back in the day that was actually good).

Vincent Jackson-
Larry Fitzgerald awarded as an elite WR
Andre Johnson awarded as an elite WR
(both teams realize they deserve the money- these are well paid brass)

Brandon Marshall- unhappy in Denver, can’t get along with Coach (no one can except Tim Tebow), wants out also wants an extension. Miami Makes a move… pays the man.

Vinent Jackson- put up similar numbers? Says to himself, I want my money. Chargers say, Vincent, your not that good. We will simply not pay you and throw the ball to Malcolm Floyd and antonio gates. If Vincent Jackson was a top 10 WR… why wouldn’t the chargers pay him? I know why….

he doesn’t deserve it. San Diego had one of the worst rushing performances last year. They inflated their stats across the board. Vincent Jackson in Minnesota? Nope… not worth it to them, what could they be asking for? You think they get isn’t going anywhere bc the chargers high asking price? Or bc they don’t want to give this guy a 50 million dollar contract?

Find me when Calvin Johnson wants his contract, or Roddy White needs another, or Miles Austin (he got is). These are what we call elite NFL WRs. The teams pay them and they go back to work. Why?

Because they are actually worth it.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean like Roy Williams?

And like Nate Burleson (more than once)
and Antonio Bryant, and more?

Vincent Jackson WILL get paid, make no mistake about it. There is no doubt in my mind. If he doesn’t I’ll be happy to give you props, but he WILL get paid.

Have you considered that San Diego hasn’t traded him because they know how valuable of a player he is? They also realize that people will give them low ball offers based on the situation.

I bet he ends up signing a 1 year deal with the Vikings, and then gets a HUGE contract the following year.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i fail to see

a connection with those WRs.

I would think that Vincent Jackson deserve Antonio Bryant type money but not Brandon Marshall, Fitrz, Andre type money.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate Burelson got more than 1 fat contract

As did Antonio Bryant…

Neither of them would be considered Elite WR’s, and your argument above was all about Wide Receiver contract size…

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they didn't get paid like top NFL WRs

thats what Vincent Jackson wants. He truly thinks hes as good as the best WR in the NFL.

I know he’s not and guess who else know?

The Chargers.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree...

The Chargers tendered him at a First and Third level of compensation…. when teams do that, they KNOW noone will sign their player to an offer sheet…

So its pretty clear the Charges knew the value they had in Vincent Jackson, otherwise they wouldn’t have tendered him at a higher level than Denver tendered Marshall….(Marshall had a 1st round tender, Jackson had a 1st and 3rd)

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

My argument

has everything to do with contract size.

Vinent Jackson wants top NFL WR money

Vincent Jackson is not a top NFL WR

Vincent Jackson does nto get top NFL WR money

Vincent Jackson sits because no one wants to pay him because he doesn’t deserve it.

Follow?

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Noone wants to pay him

Because he’s potentially looking at a 6 game suspension (arbitrator will decide as early as Thursday if its only 3 games).

Once thats decided, you will see him get a deal done with someone….

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im more confused listening to you argue about this whole Harltine sux, then grab Plax, now Vincent J. what the hell is your point?

I know You dont like Hartline but you have no hard evidence to prove any of it.

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by Weecho85 on Sep 13, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is Camarillo

Should be playing bess at the wr 2 spot

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

traded

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit I'm laughing my ass off right now

did you really just say this??

I know more about football then just about everyone

Get the hell outta here hahahahahaha My mom knows more about football than you.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 13, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i can't believe

you just admitted that your Mom is Rex Ryan.

by DRoyce on Sep 14, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he means that the only person who knows more about football than

him is Rex Ryan. PUKE

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe you screwed this joke up so bad..

well.. yeah I can believe it.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 14, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

No... not trying

It just comes naturally I guess.

by Finhead83 on Sep 17, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Win!

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Fr8

People are already standing by with their pitchforks ready to go on a witchhunt for this guy at any chance…..they don’t need to be inventing additional chances to burn him at the stake. I just think it’s funny how no one is criticizing Marshall for doing his best Ginn impersonation (the drops part, not the dropping to the ground and rolling).

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My pleasure...

Its amazing how negative some peoples lives most be that all they can do is find something to bitch about during a Win.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

I was in such a good mood after the win, the wife got lucky twice!! That hasn’t happened since Marino retired! (wink, wink)

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

the wife got lucky twice…or you did? All us married guys know what you really meant ; )

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by Dragon27az on Sep 13, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, she got lucky twice!

She doesn’t ever get lucky on losses, so she generally goes to bed early as I rewatch the game for the 2nd and 3rd time (don’t know if I expect a different result).

I grabbed her and threw her up the stairs halfway through the Cowboys game….HAHA

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have got to be kidding me

he had 1 drop down the field and thats because Henne under threw him. and it really honestly doesn’t even matter. hes the best player on the field!

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had 2 drops DRoyce

One was on a short 2nd down pass. It hit him right in the hands….kind of like the other 8 or 9 that he as dropped this preseason and in game 1.

I am not debating that he is the best player on the field, because if I was, I would argue that Jake Long is the best player on the field. I am arguing that you bash Hartline because he dropped a ball, when your guy has dropped more than a 2nd year guy making 1/10th of the money that he is making.

We won the freaking game dude. Why are you bashing anyone!! But if you are going to bash someone in a win, then bash your guy for doing the same thing!!!!!!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a right to bash a little

We beat the Bills oh wow thats a surprise. Ok now that i got that out of the way, we won the 1st game! thank you for that, we beat a division team at home thats good. The defense looked great. i just hope we can go up to the Vikings house and do the same thing

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by sparker2513 on Sep 13, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he bashed a little, I would be ok with it

But DRoyce has been bashing Hartline since camp started. He said in one post earlier this year that he picks one player on offense and one player on defense to dislike each year. It’s Hartline and Crowder. I don’t keep stats on this but I would be willing to bet that 90% of his posts are bashing Hartline.

Enough already DRoyce, all of us regulars know who your whipping boys are this year. But unless they do something that causes us to lose a game, please stop the constant bashing, especially when your favorite player is guilty of the same thing that Hartline is guilty of.

We won the freaking game!! Is 2007 so far behind us that we can’t take a week to appreciate that we are in 1st place (AHEAD OF THE JESTS) and started the season on a winning note?

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know about ya'll, but I see Favre gettin pounded and tossing up a couple picks (that we hang on to!) next week.

This win was pretty vanilla schemed (on both sides of the ball) by design, I think. But as a tune-up it helped and Minnesota doesn’t have any real informative film on us yet.

We’ll see all of what both coordinators have been cooking up next week.

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by snook36 on Sep 13, 2010 8:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Honestly I think the key to the game is gonna be contain AP

after seeing what happened on thursdays game, I think they wanna try to rely on AP more.

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

rite-o

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by snook36 on Sep 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

As for the run game;

I think mixing it with Ronnie is a good thing. Their styles are complimentary and help to keep D’s a little off balance.
Ronnie getting better as a game progresses? Excellent! We got 15 more for that!

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Another thing I noticed...

Jason Allen played both sides, to make sure he lined up over Lee Evans…..
Vontae didn’t cover there #1 all game….

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

You know watching J. Allen in preseason

He really showed himself for the Veteran he is and really knew his role as a corner and what to do, even if its taken way too long to get to this point its nice to know we have more depth than anticipated for the spot.

I couldn’t even tell if Vontae was playing in this game he was invisible, wish they had called a corner blitz for him just to know he was there heh.

by metalhead86 on Sep 13, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what we want

The best day for a CB is one when his name is not mentioned. I know what you mean on blitzing him but if we don’t hear his name its a good thing.

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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on Sep 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sean Smith wasn't mentioned, either.

And that one I wasn’t too happy about. Sean Smith was the guy I wanted for this team last year before the draft and was excited when we got him. But now he seems to have fallen by the wayside. Not a single defensive snap. It’s sad, really.

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by kdock on Sep 13, 2010 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's young, he'll be around.

Honestly, I’m very happy J. Allen is getting his chance.
Same position all year long and he just might turn into sumpin’.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He'll get more snaps when the coaching staff is sure

that his mental toughness has improved.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

*their

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the plan was to leave Vontae on an island

but Allen some help. Worked well, because Davis took that second receiver out of the game (I’ve already forgotten his name) which made the double coverage on Evans less risky.

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think so too but

It will be interesting to see how they match up with Harvin. Part of me wonders if they won’t put Vontae on Percy because he seems to me to have the lateral speed/quickness to match up with him.

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great Game

Henne & Brandon Marshall would have had the mega-stats if Henne didn’t under throw him (even though Marshall still dropped the ball).

Hartline… 3 Targets, 0 catches. Anyone ready to see some other talent lined up instead of Hartline?

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

nope. Hartline was also wide open on several plays but Henne didn't see him.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly. But he can't do anything if the ball doesn't come his way.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cracks me up that you place more fault on Henne than on Marshall

That would have been a gain of what had Marshall caught that? I am pretty sure it was like a 45 yard pass even though it was underthrown.

And for the rest of you, there were at least 5 dropped passes in that game. So when you say Henne didn’t look great, you need to really think about what some of the problems were! Henne was 21-34-182 against the 2nd best pass defense. Let ALL of our receivers catch the ball and we would have been at least 26-34- roughly 230 yards. That would have been a pretty damn good day against anyone, yet alone the number 2 pass defense.

PLEASE LETS ALL STOP FINDING EVERY LITTLE THING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT! WE WON THE DAMN GAME!!!!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the ball was thrown where it should have been it woulda been a TD 50+ yds no question

but if he had caught it the way it was thrown it woula been 40+

and you’re right, Henne got hurt with a couple drops, dude was pretty solid. made great decisions, pulled it down and ran it a couple times (or maybe just once lol)…The one glaring mistake is that underthrow…but kid had a solid game

also, win or lose you should always criticize yourself so you can be better the next time the situation comes along…not just in football but all walks of life, its the only way you’ll improve

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and also Henne getting stepped on a couple times

but that’s more the center’s fault than his own i guess

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind

Passes that long only have a completion percentage of about 25%. That isn’t a gimme throw by any means. The catch on the other hand, was pretty easy by comparison. No LB trying to take your head off. You aren’t having out jump somone. He simply had to slow down and catch it.

If that was Ginn, the people on this site would have been organizing the lynching party!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol Marshall no doubt shoulda caught that

but the ball shoulda been thrown better also

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

But the rule with WRs is if it hits your hands, you should catch it. and that ball definitely hit Marshalls hands.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true but no one is confusing Henne for top three at his position and hes not

the one banking 50 mil.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Thats a good point Van. If its Ginn its his fault but if its Marshall then the blame

must lie elsewhere.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course.....we didn't hit BM in stride so that he could score

Has to be Henne’s fault….or better yet, lets blame the O-line guy that didn’t block the guy that pressured Henne and didn’t allow him to step into the throw!! IT’S HIS FAULT THAT MARSHALL DIDN’T CATCH THE BALL FOR A TD!!!!

Bench our whole O-line!!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the fact that the wind was blowing like hell. Yes your right.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats the funniest thing I've read all day...

REC!!!

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Joe Horn available?

Hartline looks like a High School Football team Wide Receievr.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

He'll graduate sooner than later.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh God, seriously DRoyce?

Thats the best you could do? I would at least go with a Marvin Harrison reference or if you are trying to be insulting go with an Earnest Wilford or Matt Jones pull. But Joe Horn??

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm yet to watch the 2nd half of the game (god bless NFL Gamepass)

But I can say that I’m pretty excited with our D. As for the offense…well…it feels great to watch B Marshall catch all those balls, but I guess I understand Henning’s option for the running game. Brown is a stud, no question, the guy rules. Although we are all eager to see some cool passes to Marshall, we are lucky to have a running game led by Brown and Williams.

Things will only get better. =)

by Rennie85 on Sep 13, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

beyond that...

Dansby is such an asset. I love having the relablity.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Understatement

Last year, though, I would have said to myself, we’re losing this game. We can’t cover the tight end.

This season, watch out. We have a strong run defense, the secondary is making plays (or nearly making them) in both facets of the game (run, pass), and I’m sure Favre is going to see the kitchen sink. Unless he can develop full chemistry with his wide receivers in a little over a week, I have a lot of confident in our ability to limit their offense.

Now, if Henning will just let us set up the run with the pass, I’ll be feeling pretty confident in our chances.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Sep 13, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

We just have to worry about speed on their offense to be honest

Berrian Can’t run routes, and Harvin and Favre were on completely different pages in their offense on thursday. Clemons is gonna have to play the middle well to make sure the CB’s dont get beat on double moves or even just streaks. Pressure is gonna be a necessity in this game, cause Favre can still sling it, but if you start to beat up on him, then he starts to look his age.

I’m calling it now, I think Bell is gonna lay Favre out and Dansby strips AP

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

both starting cbs were 1st rounders, which means both have

the speed neccasary to cover the WRs, but yes they have scary speed on the outside.

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind

One of our staring CBs didn’t even play a single snap last week!! Wonder what’s going on behind the scenes!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you sure that Sean will start?

I said both our starting CBs are 1st RDers. Think, i know you can.

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with Henne really seemed to be timing

a few throws were late (including the deep ball to Marshall), and some just looked out of rhythm. Some of that was the Bill’s D—in the second half it seemed that they rushed less, dropped everyone into coverage, and gave Henne tight spots to fit the ball, and it seemed to really throw him off. Some of that is probably just inexperience, though, and should get better with more reps.

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

On the deep pass to Marshall, Henne had pressure up the middle

he couldn’t step into the throw, which is why it was short.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did have pressure, but I think he could have released it sooner

our offense isn’t quite to the point yet where Henne is throwing many passes ahead of the receivers’ breaks. It’s not an unusual problem for a young, big-armed QB to have—relying on velocity to get the ball there on time rather than trusting the play to develop and releasing it early.

Henne will never be a “rhythm passer,” that’s not what our offense is about or where his natural abilities are, but timing and rhythm are still his biggest weakness, IMO

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chad Henne and the offensive

I was surprise to see them move the ball, well in the first plays of each series, but they ended up stalling and not putting the ball in the endzone.

One negative comment, is the coaching staff said Henne is checking down more than they want. Which I do not think is a totally bad thing, check down live to see another day.

But what wasn’t mentioned at all is the wind that was in the stadium. The wind is always bad at Ralph Wilson, but today it was blowing. Just look at the towels the players wear or the game sheets attached to the belts. Look at the missed FG by very accurate Lindell and DC$. If I were the coach my game plan would have been pound it with the run and throw it underneath where the ball won’t flutter in the wind.

I think the under throw to Marshall got caught up in the wind, still Marshall had it hit him in the chest.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Sep 13, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

When a QB trips over center not once but twice on opening day in hostile territory it can be really bad.

Chad Henne should be getting major props for game management. He did an excellent job IMO after what could have been some circumstances that totally wreck a different QB.

by labrat3105 on Sep 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Do you think he gave Berger a blast for them?

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

The camera caught Henne pointing at him after the second one and saying something

with a REALLY pissed off look on his face.

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep saw that on the field.

How about getting up after the second stumble and complete a pass. NO ONE is talking about that and to me that is an excellent show of poise and testicles.

by labrat3105 on Sep 13, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come now Labrat

We are Dolphins fans…..we can’t possibly say anything nice about anyone on our team!!!! Foolish fan!!!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ronnie Brown

Complain about not giving the ball the Brown in the 4th if you want, but consider this.

The Fins only had the ball limited in the 4th, Ricky is a more than capable RB. All the Fins needed to do was sit on the ball and run out the clock. Maybe Ronnie would have picked up a first down on a run, maybe not. Maybe Cobbs could have picked it up… who knows. But I for one am glad that Ronnie was not in there, a player with injury history who has only made it through a whole season once is fine by me to rest.

Yes you can complain the game wasn’t in the bag, but Ricky could have picked up the yards just as anyone.

Would you have liked Ronnie to twist an ankle carrying in the 4th?

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Sep 13, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Ricky did not look like himself

He looked old and tired.

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think after 16 grueling games, he will retire.

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet

Dolphins defense is ranked #1 in yards allowed. Pretty cool.

by westcoastdolphin on Sep 13, 2010 9:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

King for a day!

(a week, anyway)

Let’s all hope we can keep AP to <86 yards next week!

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

if we can keep AP to

100 and 1 TD, I think I would be happy.

Just need some “big plays down field” next week, maybe an INT or 2 and some good special teams play.

by DRoyce on Sep 13, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

as long as he fumbles it 2 or 3 times

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

new name defense

Congrads to the Miami Dolphins win!! the offense will

     begin 2 play better b4 the coming jet game (sept 26).

     but i have 2 say the (Killer B’s) defense is BACK.

     Thanks 2 MIKE NOLAN…DOFense!!!

by Dolfan77 on Sep 13, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I can just here the retorts!

DODOfense
DOE! fense
DOODOOfense

DO cetera

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gee thanks

You really cleared that up for me Tuna!!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Opening day win!!!!!!

Feels good. What did the Vikes do that has everyone talking like the Dolphins are agains such long odds? Ok it’s in their dome, so they get a little advantage, but what looked so great about their offense? Petersen will be wrapped up by this front 7 and Farve will be looking up at the roof of the dome. We will bring the heat. The offense will be fine, though Hartline needs to get into the game more.

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by phatfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Honestly Im worried about a few things

1. Lets see how Dansby does against Shaincoe (not being pessimistic, but this is the first real TE receving threat we’ll face)

2. Contain AP, they barely gave the ball to him in the second half, and he still had a good game (Plus I wannna see the D-Line hold its own against Hutchinson).

3. And this might be the biggest one, is Ray Edwards against Carey, I think Long can hold his own with Jared Allen, but I think Edwards might be a little quick for Carey

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Enter Lou & Ricky

(and Martin).

It took me a spell to realize how good Carey is (fro the most part, I learned that here).

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Martin?

Not David Martin, he’s on Buffalo.

Yeah, I do think that we’re gonna need to leave at least a HB back to chip on him.

Also, I forget all about the Williams wall going against our interior line, while I don’t think that Pat has it anymore, I think Kevin could be a big problem for our run game

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops!

Wishful thinking.
Fasano.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is tho that Minni is real thin on DB's

So I think the key to winning will be to spread out their D with 3 or even 4 WR sets, forcing them to basically put a safety or linebacker on Moore or Wallace, which might be a very good matchup for us

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

this^ i like the spread offense the best and think

the only way to truely be a great offense you have to use it.

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by PotM on Sep 13, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

Take the under in this game. Which ever defense forces turnovers will win the game. I don’t see either offense lighting it up.

I hate seeing our guys playing on turf, too. I worry about injuries the whole game.

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by snook36 on Sep 13, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ugh, our kicking game was terrible

our corners need to learn how to CATCH THE BALL, we woulda had 2 or 3 pick sixes if they could just learn to FUCKING CATCH THE BALL…defense looked good, although they didn’t have too much resistance, but i am liking this new look Nolan defense, gonna fun to watch…offense looked great in the 1st half, completely stalled in the 2nd half…Weapon X looks great (haha Gus Johnson called him that, i LOVE that name) fun as hell to watch him with the ball in his hands…btw, i HATE that tape he wears on his arms, looks so bad, can’t he just wear a long sleeve underarmour…running game was solid…i think the wildcat is done, it was completely ineffective…perhaps if we throw out of it to catch defenses off guard it could be more effective…overall solid performance, got some things to work on though

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Eh, alot of teams arn't falling for the Wildcat throw anymore

Last night, Dallas did a toss to Barber who attempted a pass, and they had Witten double covered, meanwhile Barber never attempted a pass in the NFL before that one, so it wasn’t exactly obvious that it was coming.

Not gonna make excuses for the DB’s, they coulda blown this game wide open but in the end they need to work on their hands.

O and that tape is something for muscle tension I believe, to prevent pulls/tears (don’t quote me on that)

by kozam9707 on Sep 13, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea the wildcat is outplayed

should just do away with it, or somehow disguise it better now, but i think it should just be thrown out…

i guess there’s a reason why they are DB’s lol

well if that’s the case than alright…i thought it was just to prevent grass burns and other little knicks and stuff that happen throughout the game…but also he can wear the tape under the underarmour…i just think it looks terrible

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look at the WC this way, if they try it a couple of times and it goes nowhere then fine.

Its something for the next opposing defense to at least have to work on during the next weeks practice. If it does work then run it down their throat until they show some sign of being able to actually stop it. I get that Buffalo’s defense is not that great and they held it in check but likewise it gashed the Jets and their number one defense last season. This is just proof that no matter how good a defense is it has its match up issues against certain offensive sets. I say we keep it and use it when appropriate.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh i think it looks sooo bad

everytime they showed him i was screaming for him to take them off…i remember like a 5+ years ago it was a big thing for players to wear it like over their elbows, but then players started wearing long sleeve shirts or elbow pads lol

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 13, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good and Bad - but at least we WON !

first the good – Clemmons was all over the field – his 4.41 speed (combine) was visible all day – he’s gonna be great with a little more playing time in this system. Dansby, Bell played like the seasoned VETS they are and are the leaders of this defense.
Odrick and Misi – both lived up to expectations (1/2 round picks & starters)…. Jason Allen deserves credit for a job well done… FINALLY… He look well suited to this system as long as he is not straight Man – 4-man…. but come on with the dropped picks !
We need to resign GRANT right away if odrick is limited, as we have no real depth now.
Ronnie/Ricky express looked good – but both need more carries to get in synch.
THE BAD…….
Henning’s offense did little to put away this game – even with the defense holding firm, and stuffing the Bills, again and again. His play calling SUCKS….and he is the weak link on this team…. I will take a win any day – but would we really have beaten the Pats, colts, Ravens, or any good team playing like that ? Hell we put up 13 points with our offense !
Henne deserves some of the blame, as he look slow in his progression reads all day long. He was slow to throw the ball too often even when the guy was open… and then there’s HARTLINE…. very poor game from him…. Yea I know he was open some times and henne missed him – but he already dropped more passes than Camarillo did last year…(nuff said) I think he will pick it up,.. but he didnt look great out there… anyone notice that Marlon Moore got in the game ? wonder why…
BUT THE BLAME FOR THIS OFFENSE LIES WITH HENNING… period…. We have enough talent to sore 28 per week….Nolan did a much better job and is an upgrade !

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by 62Lou on Sep 13, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Moore dropped the only pass attempt I recall coming his way. A sideline route.

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by OntheGo on Sep 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone missed it

Here is the Brandon Marshall block. Boom!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL0zGNG6boY

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by DaBlizad260 on Sep 13, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

That's the one!!

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by Alpha6 on Sep 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

Its great

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone else see Brandon Marshall's "lay-out" hit?

It was a run play to his side. He blocked the DB back and then peeled off and “laid-out” the persuing player (don’t know position).

It was awesome!!

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by Alpha6 on Sep 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

It was Whitne. He's a safety

He is also the same guy who was guaranteeing a Bills win before the game.

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by Farorefox on Sep 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Well then that was sweet justice.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take a divisional road win

to start off the season anytime.

The defense looked great, but it was the Bills and the 1st game of the season. We all knew they didn’t have a o-line. We’ll see how the season goes. I’m not ready to call them great just like I’m not ready to call Henne awful.

Speaking if Henne, I’m kinda thinking its time for our offense to “grow up”. Stop with the gadget plays aka ‘Wildcat". Henne and the offense proved they can move the ball without last year. Is Henne checking down now because he doesn’t want to make a mistake because he knows who is behind him? The father of all checkdowns.

Personally, I think it is Henning, probably the result of Parcells. Parcells has always not like to take chances and run the ball. Its just oo much of a coincidence that when our defense is paying great our offense doesn’t score sh*t. When our offense is struggling, (usually) our offense can throw up some points.

I jump on the Fire Henning bandwagon that continues to grow.

I’m driving this MF’er. Please Matty, you aren’t the one to criticize play-calling? How many times over the past couple of years have you brought up a very stupid, WTH were they thinking, plays especially in the red zone. Its time to move on.

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

My favorite of the game:

Reverse with Davone Bess.

He isn’t particularly fast, nor Ted Ginn. What gives?

Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.

by DolfinPhan on Sep 13, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much anyone that isn't an O-line player is faster than Bess

I bet we have DBs that could outrun him.

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by Farorefox on Sep 13, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like Henning doesn't fit the team "anymore" compared to when he first came in....

Since Henne is a pure pocket passing QB, it’d be nice to see him run out of the shotgun with 4 or 5 WR like the Patriots or Saints or Colts do in order to give him more options than the checkdown to the RB. We have the depth at WR now, so it seems like it should be time to utilize it more.

I do imagine that as the season wears on that they will start opening up such plays….

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 13, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can agree with this

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Henne played solid, not amazing though

I do wonder if Henne was told not to go deep because of how agressive Buffalo’s secondary is.

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 13, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the timing of the Wildcat was awful

Offense seemed to sputter after the quick 3 and out after we used the WC twice in a row. I could see bringing it out near the goal line to confuse, but there was no need for it at that point in the game IMO.

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by FinFinatic on Sep 13, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The only GOOD place to use the wildcat is near the Goal Line....

Because they remove the QB entirely and add an extra blocker in the Power O formation essentially. Otherwise, they haven’t pulled out the Ronnie pass to Fasano yet so defenses aren’t playing it honest….they simply run after Ronnie because he rarely hands it off to Ricky or anyone else.

What was even funnier was that the first time we ran it, if Ronnie would have handed the ball to Ricky, it would have been a huge outside run. Then we ran it again but handed to Ricky this time but the entire defense shifted because they figured it would change.

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 13, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Observations....

We are 1-0 and avoided stumbling out of the gates. It was a game we were supposed to win and did. That’s what playoff teams do so it is a good start.

That said..

I’m in no way sold on our D being a juggernaut of any sort but….you can only play the opponents on the schedule and Miami did a good job making the bills offense look like that of a pop gun!

On the other side of the ball, the offense, particularly in the passing game, is going to need to seriously turn it up if we are to have any chance in Minnesota. The vikings are superb against the run and that will make this a game we are unlikely to win on the strength of ronnie & ricky. That D allowed all of 14 points on the road to the superbowl champs.

Oftentimes when the games start for real, we get some answers to the questions we have about our team. Yet in this case, I think maybe more were brought up for Miami than were answered.

by Natalya on Sep 13, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I think

the passing game will improve this weekend. We’ll be in a dome instead of windy Buffalo. The Vikes defense was very good against the run last year, but I sa the Saint’s Thomas run pretty easy on them during the 2nd half of Thursday nights game. I’m very interested in seeing how Ronnie and Ricky do.

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about the passing game probably looking better next week.

One thing about opening weekend is how few teams look really sharp, particularly in the air—and those that do are generally returning an entire unit. There is a reason for the phrase “mid-season form.” Timing and cohesiveness in the passing game will come.

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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 13, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping the Vikings game forces our team to pass and fire on all cylinders like...

the SAINTS game from LAST YEAR. It seemed like we had found the right formula for our offense and everything was firing on all cylinders until “death” came sweeping in, just like in a scene from “FINAL DESTINATION” and delivered death blows in multiple sequences….

I just think our Defense has a better chance of handling better teams and at least holding them to Field Goals or turn overs…

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 13, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno bud...

Thomas had a grand total of about 70 yards on 20 carries.

I don’t know how much better our backs will run which is what leads me to think that the passing game is going to have to make big plays, if we are to win that is.

I’m hopeful for next week but it will be a big ask of our team.

Granted, almost all pass offenses get better with games simply by virtue of timing and coordination. So hopefully we make a big jump.

by Natalya on Sep 13, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think Nats right

I really believe that our passing game will be what will lead us to a win. Now that being said, I really think that we need to use the playaction more. We still have to try and pound the ball to keep the D honest but take advantage of that by utilizing the playactioin. That will maybe even help slow down Jared Allen a half of step.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

BEAST BLOCK

I dont know why it really hasn’t been mentioned but did anyone see that huge block Marshall made, sidelining the bills player?

by R01d$ on Sep 13, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

We've mentioned it about 10 times already

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by Farorefox on Sep 13, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if theres one thing this site is good at its overkill.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Practice makes perfect!

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except with our offense./

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

incorrect :)

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by Fr8Train on Sep 13, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

love this quote^

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

True.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 14, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this explains it

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not that down on the offense

“A number of times, Henne was given time to throw, scanned the field, and seemingly took the check down rather than going for the big play. Was that by design? Did the coaches tell him to avoid any risky throws at all costs? Or were there simply no receivers open down field?”

I feel like there probably weren’t guys open down the field. He probably is checking down too much, but Buffalo has a great pass defense. You combine Henne not wanting to throw the game away with their great pass D and you get checkdowns all day long.

Can’t wait to see what we do next week.

by Bread on Sep 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

1 thing overlooked

for the whole game. 1 penalty by the dolphins.

impressive

by dhall25 on Sep 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I got to say Bess didn't show up until the 4th quarter

He had one catch in the 1st three quarters and five in the 4th quarter. Marshall can’t be a one man show like how he was in the first 3 quarters. These guys need to step up and help him out. A very frustrating performance by our receivers but it was the first game against a great secondary. I want to see the rest of the WR’s get involved more starting next game.

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by 54 on Sep 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Bess also can't throw the ball to himself

I honestly think that Henne started going to Bess because no one else could hold on to the ball, MARSHALL included. Henne has a full years worth of timing and trust with DB, and it showed in crunch time.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one besides Marshall was getting open. Every time the camera panned to the secondary our guys were covered. Bess finally got open in the 4th. Hartline got open deep once according to the announcers but Henne didn’t find him. Henne probably didn’t trust him that game and stopped looking in his direction. Moore got open but dropped.

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.

by 54 on Sep 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thnk Henne is going through some Camarillo withdrawals.....

Camarillo was his go to guy on 3rd downs and now he needs to establish that new guy, which will take time….

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 13, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are about to get jumped on for that.

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Camarillo trade made 0 sense. A starting clutch WR for a 29 year old back-up CB? Someone found Rickey's old stash.

by 54 on Sep 13, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bess is the go to guy on 3rd down, not Cam

Bess was 2nd in the entire NFL on 3rd down conversions last year.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misi is a Beast and Henne please

Stop throwing every ball at the receivers feet. Hit someone in the numbers once in a while. Watch the game again, 80 percent of the throws he makes are at the receivers feet. And the one chance he has at making a huge play, he short arms it. He needs to step it up next week in MINN.

by Bob Grant on Sep 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

he did during the preseason

and they dropped it

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by Neo on Sep 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha he completed 62% of his passes

how were 80% at people’s feet? Maybe you should watch the game again

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 13, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that the new math I keep hearing about?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's people trying to make a point

thinking they are arguing with kindergarteners here.. Hyperbole only works when you actually have a point

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 13, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah good. You know how I get confused over those new fangled things you kids are in to these days.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hyper Bowl?

A fast as light bowl?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 13, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hell, what?

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by texascowpunk on Sep 13, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If hyperbole is something you can't take literally...

… how can one make a point with it?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 13, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its the same math that Washington DC uses

To calculate how many jobs have been created and to say how much the economy is improving! Ok, I will stop, no more political comments.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 14, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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by PotM on Sep 14, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Yes no politics, religion or personal attacks. Many seem to just ignore the last one.

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by texascowpunk on Sep 14, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice summary Matty, as always

a few things I want to point out:

Wake is the real deal, albeit he was beating up on Bell (who no one is fond of on the Buffalo Ramblings Site)

Misi played very solid…so was this a good thing that Ike was sick?

I focused on Clemons the entire game (being a former safety I love to watch that position play)…and from what I saw he only blew one coverage the entire night (and it was a short route that would have been about an 8 yard grab). He really wowed me and hopefully he continues to impress. Can we all back off of him just a little bit now….sometimes Sparano knows what he is talking about….sometimes ; )

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by Dragon27az on Sep 13, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

You are asking alot brother

No one on this site likes to back off of anyone! Unless you play a 100% perfect game, you are going to be subject to glaring criticism and we will be calling for your job. Clemons will be safe for one week, but let him blow coverage against the Vikes and people will be saying “See, we should have gotten a FS in FA” or “Should have signed OJ”

Don’t worry, that it will happen. Its in the water that everyone on this site is drinking apparently.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Sep 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

CLS CLS

i said it man thhe sky is not falling and everyone was worried. look we arent there yet but we have the pieces. the only thing that worries me is henne not trying to fit things in but thats a double edged sword. you guys are a little angry abotu him being conservative but imagien if he was “forcing” throws then you guys lose you heads completely. he throws a pick and we lose hes sucks hes conservative and we win and hes a p*ssy. i dont understand you guys are never happy. i mean yeh i get it man we couldve gone down the field more we couldve couldve but we own plain and simple so we look to the vikings. front seven needs to sure up the protection but he had all day soemtimes too so it went both ways,

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by FINland on Sep 13, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Throw in a "u" on p*ssy... LOL

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by Alpha6 on Sep 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeh i dont really knwo the rules on that whoel cussing thing but.

[pussy] and [ , ]
now everyones happy. it just bums me otu that theres always soemthign to whine abotu with these kids.

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by FINland on Sep 14, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... agreed.

What you said was true and good.

And thanks for the appeasement on the comma and “u”… lol

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by Alpha6 on Sep 15, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya know...

I dont know if our D matches up as good as the Saints, but if we can rattle favre the way the saints did, we could have a pretty good shot at beating these guys…and of course we need to see the long ball but i feel if the O-line is good and bess/fasano can be sure things…then our run offense will definitely get us the W we need

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