Dolphins vs Bills: Recipe for victory
by Matty I on Sep 10, 2010 5:00 AM EDT
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Continuing on with our preview of this weekend's season opener in Buffalo between the Dolphins and Bills, it's time to turn our attention to some keys to Sunday's game. But rather than simply listing out the keys to the game for the Dolphins, Brian Galliford (from Buffalo Rumblings, of course) and I decided to do things a little differently.
What we did was each highlight three keys to the game, looking at it from our respective team's point of view. Then we let each other respond to those keys. We think it made for some interesting reading. Hopefully all of you will as well.
My keys to the game for the Dolphins are listed below, along with Brian's rebuttals. You can head over to Buffalo Rumblings today to see the keys Brian highlighted and how I responded to them.
Recipe for a Dolphins win
1. Take advantage of the attention Brandon Marshall will receive. It's probably safe to assume the Bills will be game planning to take away Marshall as an option for Chad Henne. No one corner can defend Brandon. And the truth is even two defensive backs might not be enough. Expect the Bills to shade their entire defense towards Marshall. Of course, that will leave Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, and company with more room to operate. They may not be as talented as Marshall. But they can do damage if given the opportunity.
Brian's Rebuttal: I don't think the Bills would necessarily mind that scenario. Hartline and Bess are not big-play receivers, so keeping the entire receiving corps in check would not be a bad thing, provided the team could get off the field on third down. Buffalo needs to make Miami earn all of its points; big plays will kill their chances of winning.
2. Remain committed to the run. In their last four meetings, Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams have combined to average 121 rushing yards per game and 4.36 yards per carry. No matter how tempting it might be to pass the football (especially with a new big-play receiver making his Dolphins debut), it'll be important to remain true to the team's identity and pound the football - especially with a young, developing quarterback under center in a hostile environment like Buffalo.
Brian's Rebuttal: Buffalo's run defense has not looked markedly better through a scheme shift and preseason action, but we've yet to see much in the way of exotic game-planning, as well. The Bills were able to defeat the Dolphins last November because they forced Chad Henne to beat them - he didn't - so it's absolutely imperative that they keep Brown and Williams from ripping off large chunks of yardage. It's the big runs that are important, because these backs are too good to not have at least solid outings. I'm curious to see how Miami's still-gelling offensive line performs in front of these two players.
3. Force Trent Edwards to throw. When you look at this Bills' team, it's obvious that their strength on offense is their running game. Containing those backs and keeping Buffalo in 2nd and 3rd & longs - forcing Edwards to make plays - would make this game much more difficult for the Bills. I'm not a believer in Edwards at all. I don't think he can win you football games. Let's hope Mike Nolan's defense can contain those talented Buffalo backs and put the pressure squarely on Trent's shoulders.
Brian's Rebuttal: I don't have a rebuttal. This is absolutely right. Buffalo's offensive line is very shaky in pass protection, and Edwards is still rattled under pressure. If Miami can limit the effectiveness of C.J. Spiller and the Bills' rushing attack and force them to pass - an early lead would help there, as well - Buffalo's offense would have very little chance of survival. Cameron Wake would have a field day. The only hope for Buffalo here is that they get a lead themselves early, or the game is close, and they're able to move the pocket and utilize misdirection to slow down Miami's pass rush.
Be sure to head over to Buffalo Rumblings today to see how I responded to the keys Brian highlights for his Bills.
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took the words out of my mouth
Neither can really take over a game but both have shown to be reliable. Some may say that Hartline got lucky last year a few times but lightning doesn’t strike twice and definitely not a few times in the same place. Some guys just have ice running through their veins on Sunday and that’s the feeling I get on Hartline, especially with that spiffy mo-hawk he’s rocking out these days.
Hopefully the Bills are underestimating these two as well since the attention given to Marshall is going to really allow Bess and Hartline to showcase their abilities.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
As former Dolphins LB coach George Edwards is our defensive coordinator, I sincerely doubt he’s underestimating anyone that isn’t worth ignoring.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
If they’re going to shade the whole D over to Marshall then IMO they are underestimating the other two. It’s a gamble on their part one way or another, pick your poison. No one wants to underestimate anyone but sometimes you’re forced to when a guy like Marshall is out there and Ronnie/Ricky are moving the rock.
Speaking of Edwards, if I were him I would expect the Mangini treatment for taking a job in the division. No one is going to admit it but it’s frowned upon in coaching circles. I felt that way for you when Mularkey came here, especially when it was your HC. That wasn’t right and really how Edwards left the Gators when Meyer took the leave of absence wasn’t right either and I’m not even a Gator. I can’t find if Edwards was under contract with the Fins when he jumped to the Gators but if he was and the Fins let him out of his contract because he was going to Florida then that’s pretty shady considering I doubt they would have allowed him to make a lateral move within the division. If his contract was up with the Fins then ignore the last sentence and if they weren’t bringing him back then I suppose that move within the division is okay in their book but if not then I wouldn’t expect a letter of recommendation from the Trifecta.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I said nothing about “shading the whole defense,” just giving extra attention. Jairus Byrd is a fabulous pass defender (and Marshall hasn’t ever played a Bills team with him on it); putting him over the top of either Leodis McKelvin or Drayton Florence should be effective enough. That’ll leave Donte Whitner free to play coverage or step into the box as the team sees fit.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Byrd was on the injury report yesterday as being limited
Is he a game time decision or is he playing for sure?
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Actually, he was on the injury report as a full participant. Barring an unexpected setback, he’ll play.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok
I was basing that off of some of the Dolphins beat writers’ tweets. I was actually hoping he would sit this on out. He was a real steal last year.
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It was looking real iffy this time last week, but he’s practiced fully two days in a row. We’re a little relieved up here, believe me.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
an unexpected setback you say
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 11, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
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I’m off this morning, that’s my bad, I mistook something Matty wrote for you’re rebuttal.
I’m sure Byrd plays but is he at 100%? Is the combination of him and McKelvin or Florence really going to be enough? If you check out his game log last year you’ll see that the likes of Philly, SD and Baltimore were really the only teams that were able to contain him last year. The Browns and Bengals pulled it off the first two weeks but I have to attribute that to his rocky end to preseason last year. When he turned it on it was really just a few of the elite Ds in the league that could contain him.
I don’t see Whitner having the flexibility to dictate his assignment with Hartline, Bess, Fasano and Ronnie/Ricky on the field. You’re secondary might be strong but the lack of pressure up front is going take away from the talent back there.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Byrd’s close to 100%. He’s practiced fully and reports no pain. They will probably rotate George Wilson in on a few early downs to keep him fresh, but Byrd should be out there for all of the important downs.
Whitner’s our most versatile defensive back. He’s not particularly great at anything, but he’s a nice presence.
Agreed re: the pass rush. Has been our Achilles heel for years, and that should continue.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you happen to see someone suggest here that Parcells could complete his AFC East tour with the Bills next? Makes a bit of sense to me if he’s got the energy left at 70 and desires another rebuild. Throw in the horse racing up there and it sounded it little more conceivable.
Personally I think he’s staying here for a while as a consultant but I will admit that if there was any team out there that he wouldn’t have to worry about the fans under-appreciating him that it would be the Bills. Suffer long enough and a guy like Tuna comes off as the true savior even if it’s just making you competitive.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll believe that when I see it. I sincerely doubt it would happen, because Ralph Wilson operates in a very peculiar way.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, I doubt it happens but as someone from Jersey that moved down here I can tell you that at times you do miss the North, especially during the holidays. I wouldn’t move back myself but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tuna finish out back in NY with the Giants or Bills. I know he puts a high value on ownership so I rule out the Bills but if the Giants came calling I bet he’d be tempted if he’s still got it in him.
Speaking of Wilson, it’s too bad you guys can’t get new ownership in there. It boils down to them and although Wayne Huizenga did his best with Jimmy and Saban he also did his worst with Wanny and Cam. He slightly won me back over with his courting of Saban at the time when I was blaming him for keeping Wanny too long but after he brought in Cam I can’t tell you how relieved I was when Ross then came aboard.
Get an owner up there that doesn’t eat dinner at 3:00pm and you’ll be in an infinitely better place. When a guy names a stadium after himself you can tell where his heart is.
Do you think the Bills are there long-term or is a relocation coming IYO?
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea, and have absolutely no desire to speculate about it, for obvious reasons. Call it denial via ignoring the situation. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you guys stick around up there. I think the games in Toronto are a good thing for the fan base. To much history up there. Hopefully in time an owner shows up that has local ties and money to spend.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
But Byrd and co. will still have to tackle BM
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which might be a problem due to a small but aggressive secondary
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Somehow I doubt the defensive coordinator
is ignoring Hartline and Bess as “not big play receivers.”
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Well, Hartline can be. He’s capable on the long ball. But if I’m choosing between long balls to Marshall or Hartline, I’m obviously choosing Hartline.
And sorry, but Bess and his 10 yards per reception isn’t a big-play receiver. He’s very good in the slot. He’ll be critical on third downs.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 10, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Brian
Hartline can be a big play WR, but he hasn’t established himself as one yet. Bess is a great possession WR, but he’s not a big play one. If Bess made a 40 yard reception, the coverage was either blown horribly or a few defenders whiffed on the tackle.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand that Bess isn't a deep threat
nor is he really capable of that. However, he will convert 3rd downs all day long. His longest catches are like 35-40 yards, but those don’t come very often.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
A guy who converts 3rd' all day long might not be a big play guy,
but he sure is a big game guy.
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by Tunaflipper on Sep 10, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen. I have no problem going out there and slowly plodding down the field and
controlling the clock something like 2 to 1. That might not work against a team like the Colts or the Saints that can strike in a second but I think all that does is force the Bills in to turning the ball over. Good times!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with you brian
i think the interpretation of “big play receivers” is at issue with some folks. As straight forward as you would think that statement would be, some people think of a “welker-like” performance as being a “playing big”. He might have 8 catches for 70 yds, comprised of 5-10 yd catches. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
True. Perhaps I should have worded it differently. I’m seriously concerned with giving up huge chunks of yardage through the air, and Bess is not a huge concern for me in that department.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i hear ya =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to agree with Brian
Bess and Hartline aren’t exactly world beater’s. You can get away with single coverage on both. Neither have shown an ability to beat single coverage consistently. Which is one major reason Buffalo beat us last year. Our Wr’s weren’t getting open against their corner’s. This game should be interestin. The Dolphins need to be smart and not play into Buffalo’s strength which is their secondary and just run the ball
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Bess was beating double teams last year,
and he was doing it when he was the primary target.
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by uncle finster on Sep 12, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry, but a 3rd down conversion can be the most important offensive
play in the game, IMO.
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Marshall
Even with double coverage, i think he will be able to shake it and get some nice grabs…big key to victory this week is the o-line. henne needs time, and r&r need lanes
I expect alot of first down throws to Marshall when teams typically dont double WR's
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
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Great writing guys! I enjoy the constructive opinions of the opposing writers. Good commentary on the Fuffalo page too.
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No,
it’s Fluffalo.
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by uncle finster on Sep 12, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the run game is key for our offense (and Henne)..
as Brian has conceded, the bills were and are poor at stopping the run. Establishing the running game and controlling the line of scrimmage is a recipe for a) getting a large advantage in time of possession, and b) setting ourselves up to take some big shots in the passing game, especially off of play-action.
I think time of possession matters because the bills are not an explosive offense ala Indy (remember last year) and aren’t likely to score on 2-3 play drives. So if we run well, keep the ball, set up the pass….then I think we build our QB’s confidence and put him in higher % situations to establish a rapport and make plays with Marshall & co.
The flip side is completely valid too…..commit to stopping the run on defense and let Edwards show he isn’t the guy who has spent almost, not quite all, of his NFL career looking bemused and checking down to 5 yard hooks!
Forcing Henne to beat you this time around with Marshall will succeed or else open
up the run. Either its overloading the box or double and triple teaming BM. Don’t forget about Moore and Wallace. One or both can be a back breaker when stretching the field.
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That’s true, but only if Miami can effectively hurt Buffalo at every level of the field. Good teams can take one thing away from an opposing offense. If I’m picking between the two, the choice is an easy one.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Moore and Wallace
Only one will be active during the game, but I wouldn’t expect significant amount of time on the field as a WR from either of them.
they will both be active
they are sitting Marshall
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
me either
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In other words
he’s messing with ya finhead
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Why are you trying to cause your fellow Phin fans undo stress Lefty?
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
who says it's "undo"?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We already have enough stress worrying about our offensive line
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't be a hatter.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
*undue?
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ME TOO!!!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Me three!
Oh and I am just messing with Lefty.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
really? when?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 11, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL Anytime I get a chance.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 11, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we are all going to see a top NFL team have its way with a rebuilding NFL team.
All the CLS’ers will be silenced after we man handle the Bills. We will dominate them at the line of scrimmage on both sides all day long. 27-10 Miami wins handedly with a time of possesion around 40 mins.
Did you read Nolan and Henning's comments on their respective unit, they too are worried
about the cohesiveness of both units and stated there are only two returning starters on defense. There will be concern until things gel and we must improve every game, even after wins because our sked gets tougher thru first 8 games.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
well said
oh, and labrat? CLS is a term usually reserved for worrying in the face of ZERO real concerns.
Are you contending that the Dolphins have ZERO REAL concerns?
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo is going to be dangerous on screens and draw plays
If our defense gets too aggressive, then screens and draws will eat us up, especially with Spiller. We’re going to have to generate pressure without blitzing too much of we’ll be susceptible up the middle.
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*or, not of
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I agree, misdirection + Spiller's speed is really going to be a test for our new LBs
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 10, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
+2, but remember the speed we have now on defense.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
We have a smarty in our LB core now
I’m not that worried about it, Dansby will be in position… unless we blitz him :(
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I literally woke up this morning worrying about our rebuilt interior O-line, and what that will do to R &R
The running game is just so dependent on those guys, and they are my biggest concern going into this game (at least on offense).
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think of it this way
They aren’t in the business of getting worse so you have to trust Sparano since he came from the O-line. There’s no reason not to believe that Jerry/Berger/Incognito is an upgrade over Smiley/Grove/Thomas.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I keep telling myself...
but fortunately, we get to find out for real in two days. All these changes are just one more reason this season needs to go ahead and start already.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 10, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I beat myself up too much throughout the season
I’m forced to feed off early optimism because I might be punching walls by week 7, lol
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
good thing you are a wee slip of a man...
otherwise, you would be running out of walls, eh?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I like to think I live in a world without walls
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Who is walls?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah
… yes.
How could I forget… makes much more sense now.
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Everson??
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by uncle finster on Sep 12, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
this is my major concern as well
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Brian, how do you feel about picking of Spiller in the draft with so many needs?
Are you for using your strategy to select the best player available or fill needs?
Obviously I agree that Spiller was the best player on the board.. and he could make an instant impact and atleast be that X-factor that could steal a few wins probably by himself. But using Miami for example, we knew we needed to build the line for greatest improvement. Sure having Ryan available would have been the SEXY pick but I’m sure even you can agree that drafting Jake Long was the smart move and we wouldn’t have won the East without making that decision.
I’m a big fan of Spiller, hell, I wanted him. I think he will be exciting as hell to watch even on a division rival… but would grabbing a solid lineman or trading down to get depth made more sense? What do you think?
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
I’m no pro scout, but I was pretty saddened when they passed on Jimmy Clausen twice. I love C.J. Spiller’s talent, and while I’m not a draft-for-need guy, I think you can try to blend need with value a bit better than the Bills did. But I’m not going to criticize them, because Spiller has been absolutely fabulous for us to this point.
The only lineman I’d have considered with that pick was Anthony Davis, now in SF. Bulaga had a lot of support up here, but I was never big on him.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm usually suspicious when the media labels a prospect a "rare talent"
(McFadden and JaMarcus come to mind) so I was never on the Fins ‘draft CJ Spiller’ bandwagon— but he has looked every bit the real deal in preseason. Scary good.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Sep 10, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You ought to watch the games, man. Spiller scored a touchdown in every single game he played in as a senior. He returned 7 kicks for touchdowns in his career, and another on punt returns. He never averaged less than 5.3 yards per carry in college. It was pretty obvious that he was good. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
But college success doesn't always translate to pro success
Just ask Pat White about that. LOL. Seriously though, he’ll be a good player, but he’ll never be a full time back because his size limits him. He won’t be able to take the abuse for his whole career. He’ll make a good part-time back like Bush in NO.
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shouldn't be a full time back.
Would be a very good x-factor on a good team, because his ability to cause defensive mismatches in the passing game, and return punts and KOs will be enough to keep him active and play enough to prove he can be good.
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sounds like a description for Ginn in 2007, lol
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
If only Ginn had been a running back… WR is a much more demanding position in this league.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
pay no attention to the comparison, I was just joking. I think Spiller will do well for you but I question how long he’ll be able to do it by himself. That’s a big load to lay on a rookie, especially since he’s really the only new reason to get excited on offense.
If you can compare anything between Ginn and Spiller it’s that both fan bases expected a lot from them as rookies. Game breaking ability combined with high draft status can kill a guy like that if he’s not truly spectacular from the start.
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
this is a good point.
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He also had injury issues and the rb grind in the NFL is a killer.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He had one issue, a toe injury. He played through it his senior season, and still scored in every game. He’s 100% healthy now.
I sincerely doubt he’ll be getting a full rushing load, either, considering we have quality backups.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't your back-ups not going to play for a few games?
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I agree with Clausen
I think he’ll be the best QB of this rookie class plus him going to a team with a reasonable amount of weapons should speed his progress. My buddy was a Niners fan and he was pissed to pass him twice, but I guess they’re still trying to protect their 1st round pick. Alot of critics are picking you guys to be bottom of the NFL this year and i don’t agree. You’re always good to upset a few people but you still have room to go. There are a few good QB’s coming out of college though (Locker and Ponder spring to mind) and if I were you I would look to immediately Trent after the season.
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We’re most definitely keeping tabs on the quarterbacks, but Nix has proven already that he’ll pass on a need position for a truly excellent prospect. That’s why I think guys like Georgia WR A.J. Green, LSU CB Patrick Peterson and Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara are legitimate options for Buffalo in the first round next year, assuming they’re picking high enough. They wouldn’t pass on a QB or an OL they like for those guys, but they’d take those guys before filling a need, that’s for certain.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
we will give you Chad Pennington for two firsts
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I said yesterday – I’d have signed Pennington as a free agent in a hearbeat, but I wouldn’t trade a bag of footballs for him.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
how about thigpen?
for a first and second?
i think i can get that done
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh heh heh
... but someone is thinking about it over there...
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I see... Well question for you Brian
How do you get a ban uplifted at the Rumblings? lol
Yeah….
during Week 1 last year I was watching and rooting for the Bills play the pats and of course we all saw the implosion that happened. I was as heartbroken as the rest of you guys and at the time wrote “YOU SUCK BUFFALO” which probably wasn’t smart. I was expressing disappointment but all your fans were so overcome and full of rage and saw that I was a stinking fin fan that I was instantly banned without as much a warning, or in my defense, a means to apologize.
Figured I’d state my case to you and apologize for not thinking at the time… I definetly learned my lesson to watch your words on other sites. It’s easy to take a post at a time like that as being a dbag instead of trying to express disappointment just as you guys were… You can read up on my posts, I’m an active contributor here and trust me don’t really have a hatred for your team as much as other bloggers here. Let’s just say I’ll root for you guys 4 times a year; when you play the Pats or the scum of NJ.
Let me know what I can so I can communicate and represent the views of my team on the Ramblings, which is easily the second best blog covering the AFC East ;)
Thanks,
Brian (atleast cut me a break because of my badass name?)
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wow thanks B
once again… my bad lol
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Very gracious. I wish the mods at GGN were as decent as you Brian!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of which...
how come it takes so long for me to get activated to post over there? =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
this^
in general its re***ded that you have to wait so long to join any SB blog. What are they doing a background check?
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I put that in place to stop spam comments from morons selling porn, pills, and fantasy football leagues.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You sound like those things are bad!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks Brian!
i spent all that time making that pretty little graph, and then couldn’t post it. ;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
what are porn pills?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know but we need to launch and investigation and find out ASAP!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Try Activating Shampoo...
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Wow... you're like some kind of head blogger or somethin...
lol
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you (see above)
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
see there! it pays to know low people in high places
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
ass
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Hes a braggart.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Does it really?
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Good nobody tell Buffalo about Adrian Clayborn or Cameron Heyward
who are fantastic prospects that are in a position of need for them
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, we know plenty about them. Allen Bailey and Marcell Dareus, as well.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
please don't pick Allen Bailey
I’d hate to have to root against him, seeing as he’s from the U and all lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 11, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I would considered Roger Saffold
He’s starting in STL, even though they drafted a LT with the second overall pick in 2009. Sounds like he’s pretty good. It may have been a slight reach at 9, but you definitely could have used him. I’m not a fan of Davis because reports were that he had serious work ethic issues.
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Our assistant offensive line coach, Bobby Johnson, was Saffold’s offensive line coach at Indiana. GM Buddy Nix was fairly straightforward in saying that the Bills tried to trade back up into the end of the first round, and while the idiots in the media guessed that it was for Tebow, most around here believe that it was an attempt to snag either NT Dan Williams or Saffold. He just couldn’t get a deal done.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Well as a Dolphins fan, I'm glad you didn't get him or Clausen
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Good post guys...enjoyed
Also looks like Buffalo’s linebackers are pretty dinged up. That should open up some seconf level opportunities for R&R, and for Bess. And, while I agree that Bess is not a big play guy, he CAN eat you up all day in the middle of the field. Same goes for Fasano.
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by captainugly on Sep 10, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if our linebackers were completely healthy, it’d still be an advantage for Miami. That group is highly average.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I love that answer. :D
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by captainugly on Sep 10, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
C.J. Spiller does give me a headache, though.
If he stays healthy and gets even average blocking, this guys going to be an NFL great.
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it's all about contain with Spiller
keep him from getting outside and you can slow him down
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Not strictly true – he can wiggle through cracks and cuts back very well – but there’s no doubt he’s at his absolute best when he breaks contain.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
not saying he can't run inside.
but he does most of his damage on the edges
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont forget about ST's
This will be a huge test for our struggling ST’s unit if he handles all the kick return duties
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but the dolphins never really lose a game due to a RB
honestly?
our run D has usually been stout and I can’t remember the last time a RB totally crushed us singlehandedly. It’s usually a weird team when it happens, one that we don’t expect (Fargas on Oakland and Pittman on TB both a few years back spring to mind).
With our unproven pass coverage I’d be alot more worried about the Mannings, Brees and Rivers instead of the AP’s, Spillers or MOJO’s
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BSerious
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know a mojito, but what's a MOJO?
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the bills
Are idiots they’re not a team that can afford to go with the “sexy” pick. Don’t get me wrong any team would love to have C.J. Spiller but c’mon man.
I’d understand if you don’t want to take the risk on a QB in the 1st round (especially in this weak class) but they had a chance to pick up a quality lineman.
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
be nice DB, we’re having friendly discussion here, lol. How have you been and hows you’re season coming?
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
lol my b
I’m good and I saw my first action last week so it was good to get my feet wet. And tomorrow we playin UF so that’s pretty excitin
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good luck, stay focused on what you can control
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks man
I will
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh and win that game!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That would be EPIC!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I know man
My school has been promoting this game all summer. Hell,we were thinking ahead to the gators before we even played our first game
We ready boyy!!!
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I see that the odds makers are giving the Gators 16 points.
Hopefully if you do not pull off the epic upset you at least make the sweat and their fans freak out for another week. Of course I will be pulling for you guys this week! Well every week till you play the U of course.
Oh and by the way I expect at least one INT from you this week. Good luck bro!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol thanks man
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yw
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and another thing
With that sorry ass O-line CJ Spiller is going to be turning the corner a lot and its not going to be as easy for him as it was in college.
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Having seen him torch the starters in Indy and Cincy this preseason, trust me – he still makes it look pretty ridiculously easy once he gets to the second level.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Keyword: PRESEASON
Don’t get me wrong I know Spiller is going to be good but I don’t expect the colts/ Bengals starters to be missing tackles like that come regular season, I’m not going to over exaggerate that fact
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We’ll see. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if Spiller got off to a slow start. I just think he’s ridiculously talented – so much so that he can overcome deficiencies with the team around him. His talent level is off the charts.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Due to the lack of talent on offense
Teams are going to try and shut out Spiller, so a slow start may be likely. But another thing is that those college all-purpose/speed backs usually have a slow transition to the NFL. Mostly due to the fact that they relied on their speed in college. Think Reggie Bush, Darren McFadden, etc
But regardless he’s a big play threat and he should have his fair share of them this season. With that being said, even if he plays to his full potential this year, it won’t be of mean much on a 4-12 team
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The only other offensive threat is Lee Evans. Roscoe Parrish has that type of ability and looked good in the preseason, but we’re still not sure how prominent his role will be.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
it amazes me that Evans hasn't forced his way out of there yet
Age is not on his side and after last year I felt like that offense was taking away value from Evans. How many years does he have left on his contract?
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Including this year, he’s got three years left on his contract.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
is that his second contract?
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
the guy is still a deep threat but his inconsistency is horible
he dropped to me in round 15 in like 2 fantasy leagues so i grabbed him in both. He’ll sit on my bench but he’s always good for an 80 yard TD here and there (usually against Miami unfortunetly). I blame alot of this on QB inconsistency though, I would take Evans on Miami in a heartbeat
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Evans would look great on a lot of NFL rosters.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
True and I think Spillers should be used like Bush, not as the primary back.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing though
Indy never has a great run D
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It’s serviceable. I believe they were in the 20s last year, though. Cincy, on the other hand, was Top 10. 7, I believe. They’ve got a good defense. At one point, Spiller had 3 carries for -16 yards. He ended up with 52 on 12, with two scores.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If Spiller is to be successful
I picture him being a Chris Johnson type of runner. Out of 10 runs, 9 are no gains or negative yeards, the 10th is a 80 yard TD.
His style really isn’t all that similar to Johnson’s. But yeah, he has that same problem – a few bad runs, and then some breathtaking runs.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
cause he's shifty...
not a hard nosed runner that runs north and south. That whats would scare me for playing with Buffalo… what I mean is you will have alot of 3rd and 8’s and it will be up to Edwards to pull you out alot of those situations
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Johnson’s style is more slashing. He’s a one-cut, accelerate guy. But they’re not totally different; both are extremely adept at setting up blockers and making defensive backs look foolish in the open field.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda have to agree
he’s going to be good, and he’s going to be damn hard to stop. We can try to convince ourselves all day that he won’t hurt us, but he will. He’s too good to keep down all game long, and say what you want about Chan Gailey, but he’ll figure out a way to get Spiller the ball in space and that’s not a good thing for us.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 11, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
uh oh, DB’s swag is fully loaded
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by special agent wildcat on Sep 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Deuce Black on Sep 10, 2010 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The X factor for both teams
is that they are playing for respect. The media has counted both out for the most part, and they are both going to have to scrap their ways back into the hearts and minds of sportscasters and fans. I think this is going to be a great game based on that alone….and a great season. Mediocre guys are going to step up and shock us all….on both sides….I see it coing.
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NFL network Fantasy chart has Miami defense rated #10. Are you surprised.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I AM. Wow.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
Not great in coverage
Last season was third on the team in tackles (70). He’s played in every game since 2002. He’s a stopgap solution at this point. He’s an average ILB, but isn’t a playmaker by any means.
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He’ll back up at both ILB spots for us, so I suppose we can do a lot worse.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He can't cover TEs anymore
If you have a lot of dangerous TEs on the schedule, then he’ll get burned by them. He’s average against the run.
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He won’t be covering tight ends. We bring on backup SS Bryan Scott to do that in nickel packages; otherwise, it’ll be a slot corner or Paul Posluszny.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He let me down on a lot of Sunday afternoons.
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by captainugly on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I know that's right Akin is slow in coverage and as I recall last game
against the jets Dustin keller ran an out left route and beat Akin by 5 steps on a critical 3rd down play when Sanchez was trying to march down field on us. overall I know we will beat the Bills this season even the Vikes they looked pretty bad last night.
Chad Henne and Brandon Marshall is the Beauty and the Beast.
I hope Fasano has a big game on Sunday....
Unlike last season, it could help Fasano be a huge target this year if he comes out hot on Sunday….
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Sep 10, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
but is an aboveaverage pass rusher
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 11, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope the Defense plays off of Marshall like we've seen quite recently....
And the Dolphins take advantage by running those quick scrimmage pass / screens to Marshall. They always play off of Marshall by 10 yards, he’s really good at making that first guy miss and then it’s off to the races….
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I like this...
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
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… said things about your birth, yo mama and chit like that. Some went into the future and attacked what would be your kids… and wife. Something about tarts (or was it tards?), Idk, but they had you made out like some chupathingy…. a strange looking, not of this world, creature…. with no brains.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian, nice having you over and great info
I haven’t heard you touch on Leonard though. He is plays good to me.
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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 10, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Leonard Nimoy?
I hear he’s excellent at the game UNO. a great player….lol
Sorry. Idk who Leonard is.
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Tom Brady should have his thumbs removed! Slowly!
Spiller
CJ Spiller is the scariest part of their offense, especially since it’s the first game and we have no idea what he will be. Will he be the next Chris Johnson? Or just average? Hopefully Dansby welcomes him into the NFL by knocking him on his @$$ early and often.
In this game, there's gonna be a lot of "welcomes" going on
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i really dont see spiller as a threat.
to be honest. miami been pretty decent against the run, at least in not letting it dictate the outcome of a game. just off the top of my head we held CJ to 100+ yards but VY still had to beat us with his arm and i dont see edwards having that capability.
i think you will think differently after Sun.
Our tackles are not great but our interior is better than advertised, in no way are they great, but they are ok.
On the big TD run against Indy, it was right up the middle and C.J made it happen. That is the beauty of a guy like him, it just takes one hole to have a TD.
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i would take titans line over your line
id take cj over spiller, id take VY over edwards, and i would take titans recievers over yours.
i dont think we will have a problem containing spiller.
I think Starks is going to out him on two pieces of bread and eat him.
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J! E! T! S! Suck! Suck! Suck! Suck!
Tom Brady should have his thumbs removed! Slowly!
* put him
"Nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat."
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J! E! T! S! Suck! Suck! Suck! Suck!
Tom Brady should have his thumbs removed! Slowly!
Out him?!
Spiller is gay?!?!
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 10, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure on that :)
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Tom Brady should have his thumbs removed! Slowly!
point being
we didnt let CJ, who is a better RB than spiller, dictate the game. we made VY beat us in the air and edwards isnt capable of making the plays VY can.
Vince Young is one of the worst pure passers in the league. So if you’re getting gashed by him through the air, maybe you’ve got different problems. :)
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and i watch a lot of titans games ( i live in TN)
and VY is actually a decent QB. his problems are throwing somewhere between 10-15 yards.
You mean the 80 percent of throws a quarterback makes?
lol
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exactly
hahaha. im not claiming VY as the second coming to jesus. I actually cant stand the guy, im probably the first one to bash him. but id still take him over edwards (mainly because of the run option)
jesus was probably a bad example (i dont think he played football)
we will go with dan marino hahahaha
your refering to last year correct?
how does that have to do with last year?
Spiller is a Rookie and has never played in a NFL game before so yeah, i would take C.J over him too, but that does not mean he could not be as good or better.
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considering he had what 11 straight 100+ yard games
and out of the 10 his lowest was against us and that is against NE, JAC, SF, BUF, HOU, ARI, IND, STL, SD, SEA.
id say that is pretty good
Johnson also had 55 receiving yards. Y’all did well to keep him out of the end zone, but let’s not pretend that holding a running back to 159 total yards is some sort of massive achievement.
Spiller can’t beat you by himself. But if he helps Trent the way CJ helped VY, that’s all we can ask him to do.
by Brian Galliford on Sep 10, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i didnt say it was
my point which i stated above was:
we didnt let CJ, who is a better RB than spiller, dictate the game.
regardless if he got 159 total yard he didnt dictate whether we won or lost the game. i was at the game and even though the stat sheet says 159 total yard CJ was basically a non factor in that game. it was VY throwing (with in my opinion some lucky throws and great catches by the recievers) that cost us the game, which i dont think edwards is a good enough QB to do what VY did.
What im trying to say is if we can contain, which i think we will, spiller. the bills offense will be, for lack of a better word, inept.
LOL
true though, huh
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 10, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember all my friends (titans fans)
were all disappointed week 17 because CJ only had like 134 yards rushing. like it was a bad thing or something
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