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Dolphins Training Camp, Day 6: The defensive youth movement

The Dolphins hit the practice field twice at the team's facility in Davie on Wednesday. But much to many fans' dismay, the evening session - which was scheduled for 8 pm - had to be moved inside the bubble due to rain.

Of course, the Dolphins still have another evening session planned for those hoping to attend - scheduled for Monday August 9 at Sun Life Stadium. That practice begins at 7:15 pm.

Back to today, let's talk about some of the events from today's two practices.

Young guys holding it down on defense
The Dolphins are now nine practices in to their 2010 campaign. Through those nine practices, there's been an obvious trend on defense - the youth movement is in full effect. It's still early, of course. But we've seen the same eleven players working as the first team defense in each of the nine practices.

If the current line-up holds true into the regular season - which would mean rookies Jared Odrick and Koa Misi win the starting jobs, among other things - the Dolphins would be starting six players who are 25 years old or younger. Eight of the eleven would be 26 or older. And only one player - Yeremiah Bell - would be over 30. The average age of Miami's starting defense would be an incredibly young 25.3 years of age.

Star-divide

This infusion of youth doesn't seem to be bothering head coach Tony Sparano. In fact, he's excited. Said Sparano on Wednesday when asked about the youth movement:

"Well I hope it’s exciting. I think that I’m not afraid of it. I certainly am not. I think that when you get to where you want to be the JV grows up and they become varsity players and right now we’re looking at a lot of those kinds of players out there.

"...I’m excited about those possibilities right now. Never mind the young guys that we have running around here like Odrick and those type of people who we think are going to obviously be contributors. So, I’m pretty excited about it I like (it). The one thing with this group right now, is they go out here and they’re young enough and bold enough to go out here and challenge this weather in every practice and all these types of things and not bat an eye at it. So, I kind of like that part of their young enthusiasm."

Individually, all of these reps are helping these young players get better. Jared Odrick said on Wednesday that he's "had more sacks the past couple days than at Penn State in a long time. My run defense is getting better every day."

Cameron Wake has also been coming alive. ESPN had a nice little piece on Wake's performance rushing the passer this week. Omar Kelly tweeted that Wake "roasted Vernon Carey on a sack" during the evening practice. And Sparano said on Wednesday that Wake has made very few mental errors when he's had to drop back in coverage and has reportedly looked more stout against the run - though that will be really hard to gauge until the bullets are live.

Still, youth is clearly "in" in Miami.

Roster Move Roundup
The big news of the day, of course, was that running back Kory Sheets suffered an injury to his Achilles' tendon that will sideline him for the season (likely a torn Achilles', though the team hasn't confirmed that). The Dolphins have since placed Sheets on the waived/injured list - meaning he'll have to clear waivers before the Dolphins can place him on injured reserve. But if the does make it through and is returned to the Dolphins, the Dolphins can get back some of his 2010 base salary.

The Dolphins also placed A.J. Edds on Injured Reserve. This means Edds is not exposed to waivers, is property of the Dolphins, will count against their 80 man training camp roster, and will be paid his full 2010 base salary. This tells you all you need to know about Edds - the Dolphins like him a lot.

Quick Hits

  • It was pointed out on Twitter that Chad Henne was 1 for 7 during the morning session's 11-on-11, with three sacks. But he seemed to bounce back nicely in the evening, considering the reports around the 'net about how well Miami's receivers did in the bubble last night.
  • But Omar Kelly tweeted that Henne has looked like a "solid NFL starter" so far in camp. So let's all relax for now and see what happens when the games actually mean something.
  • Patrick Turner continuing his strong camp. He made two catches that made headlines on Wednesday. One was on a slant against rookie Nolan Carroll while the other was a diving catch on a slant against Vontae Davis.
  • Brandon Marshall also had a "sick catch" on a fade in the endzone against Vontae. And this was after Marshall gave everyone a scare last night by twisting his ankle and falling to the ground while making a cut on a route. Clearly, though, he's fine. Just ask Davis.
  • The first team offensive line remained the same on Wednesday, with Donald Thomas, Jake Grove, and John Jerry lining up left to right on the inside. Meanwhile, Richie Incognito got into yet another fight with a teammate. If he keeps this up, could the Dolphins really keep this nutcase on the team?
  • With Sheets out now, the kickoff job will likely come down to Patrick Cobbs, Nolan Carroll, Brian Hartline, and a couple guys who are on the outside looking in at the roster (Tristan Davis and Taurus Johnson).
  • Worried about Sean Smith's slow start to camp? Omar Kelly doesn't think you should be, tweeting that "you'd start slow too vs. Brandon Marshall." He even said he still likes Smith over Vontae, though he thinks "both will be good."

Tweets of the Day
"The jumpball in the corner of the endzone to Brandon Marshall is just about unstoppable. He scored a couple of times on it today." - Omar Kelly

"I'm not a guy who gets excited about offense, but the more you watch Brandon Marshall work the more impressed you are. Clearly a dominant WR." - Omar Kelly

Up Next
The Dolphins have just one practice tomorrow, scheduled for 3 pm and open to the public.

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Now I don’t get too excited to see Coach Sparano praising a lot of players during training camp. Truth be told, the majority of coaches speak highly of their players and thus, even teams like the Lions and Raiders even feel a hint of hope and excitement in the air.

What I have noticed is the increased amount of praise coming from Coach Sparano this year than the previous two training camps. In 2008, the message largely was rebuilding and players adjusting to the new system. The message in 2009 was the team was getting better, but they still had a few pieces to assemble. It’s exciting to hear this season that even Coach Sparano’s excitement seems higher than ever before during his tenure in Miami. It is all coach speak when praising players and it’s best to take it with a grain of salt, but it’s still refreshing to hear the coaching staff is now so high on this team.

It sounds like the coaching staff and front office believe the rebuilding phase is complete and it’s time to see what they’re 3 year plan will bring to the table.

by Finhead83 on Aug 5, 2010 6:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Another tidbit

Jake Long mentioned yesterday he believed Wake already has more sacks against him this training camp than Long allowed all of last season. While I’ll withhold my excitement for Wake until he starts to show himself in the season, it’s good to hear when an All-Pro OT talks of his problems blocking a new OLB.

by Finhead83 on Aug 5, 2010 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Thats saying something considering all the names Jake dominated so far

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by Foy on Aug 5, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAKE UP

im also excited to what wake brings to the table…I really feel he can become the all around guy they and we need him to be

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 5, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Incognito is going to last

If he does, he could single handedly screw up a few games. I remember watching a game (I have a friend who is a Rams fan, shit happens) where he took I think 5 penalties for being a nutjob. I wasn’t excited about bringing him in, I’m even less excited now.

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by dolphinfanatic717 on Aug 5, 2010 7:30 AM EDT reply actions  

He is a baller.. the 1st bad call against him ina game take him out and keep him for reserve duty.

He can hold his own at guard so.. if they can get his head somewhat strait then he will be a good addition. Id soon keep him even with his attitude for a “just in case” backup. You do remember how many injuries we had last season right?

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by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you.

I live in the St. Louis area and got to see a lot of Incognito while he was with the Rams. I was one of the very few people who didn’t want the Dolphins to sign him, and I was told by most everyone that I was wrong and that we would be able to control him. But this is the exact same kind of crap I saw him pulling on the Rams that cost them many a TD.

That’s why I made sure to reserve the right to say “I told you so.” when he screws us out of a TD or even a game because he can’t keep his temper in check.

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by Chupathingy on Aug 5, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Que pasa Chupa?!

Doin anything good?

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by Alpha6 on Aug 5, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

SORRY BUT YOUR WRONG

he will last his aggressive attitude is what that line needs. you’ll see sparano knows how to help guuys like that too …and help them succeed

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 5, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I'm wrong

I know he has talent, and would love to be able to use that talent. But if the Phins can’t get rid of his baggage he is trouble.

Again, really really hope I’m wrong!

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by dolphinfanatic717 on Aug 6, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The youth movement is good - and - well timed.

For all the talk about what we’ve lost on D we shouldn’t forget we lost players who were part of an inconsistant, at times bad, unit.

We can hang the New Orleans and Indy losses on the D, probably the loss to the Bills, as well as Houston and even Pittsburg. In all we lost five games where the O scored at least 23 points. Despite the fact we had (other than at corner) a reasonably experienced unit we we lost because we couldn’t take tha ball away, we gave up big plays and made a lot of mistakes. We bent, but we also broke.

So new blood is needed and what better time to inject it than when the entire defense is being made-over. When everyone is learning the system at once rookies and new starters are less behind the eight ball than gthey would be normally. Granted, the whole defense is more likely to make mistakes as they all adjust…but that’s what last year’s defense was doing anyway.
Plus, Nolan’s system is geared to high energy, high motor players…which rookies and young players generally are. What you need is a couple of cool heads in the middle (Dansby, Bell) too keep people’s feet on the ground and heads in the game.
Wake and Misi don’t have the experience and guile of Taylor and Porter, but their combined ceiling this season is probably higher. Down the road there’s no question they will be an improvement over two guys in their mid 30’s. Odrick might not be an improivement over Merling (but he also might) , but there’s enough veteran depth behind him that he can learn on the job without it being fatal to our chances.
Dansby is obviously an improvement, with Davis, Smith, W Allen and Carroll, we are crazy-deep at corner.
In my mind the only real worry is FS. Clemons has great range, the question is can he assimilate the system quickly and completely enough to a) quarteback the secondary and b) make some big plays of his own?

I’m with Sparano…the prospect of this defense scares me a little but excites me a lot. Can’t wait to see them in action.

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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 5, 2010 7:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It's hard not to get excited to see what this defense can do.

With all this blitzing, it’s making the O-line look terrible, but the OL will be able to pick up other teams blitzes easier.

Odrick has the pass rush ability, like Starks did last season.

Misi is starting to show his true form.

Vontae and Sean, are going up against one of the best WR’s in the biz. They’ll learn alot from him, and they’ll be able to cover the other great WR’s.

Channing is able to blitz now. From what I’ve read, he’s been creating alot of pressure on our QB’s. Thanks to Dansby of course.

I can see us in the top 10, maybe in the top 5 next year.

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by Kdog92 on Aug 5, 2010 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel like the overall theme is continuity

The big benefit of having a young team is that many of these players will play their career together. They’re growing together, learning together and becoming brothers. The knowledge they’ll acquire on each other will allow them to know each other inside and out.

Last night sucked, it was like the rain was waiting for the players to come out. Hat tip to Bess for being the first to step on the field, a good 10 minutes before anyone else.

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by special agent wildcat on Aug 5, 2010 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Is there any chance Brandon Marshall goes down as the best WR in NFL history?

I know it’s a long way off but he’s got the body and athleticism and has that quick start to his career. If he stays healthy this guy could be one of the greatest to play the game if not the greatest. It all depends if Chad Henne turns into the guy we know he’s capable of becoming.

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by BSerious72 on Aug 5, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

He's got a long way to go

You’re talking about exceeding the career of Jerry Rice which isn’t something to take lightly. Rice has 1,549 catches, 22,895 yards and 197 TDs.

In comparison BM has 327 catches, 4,019 yards and 25 TDs. After four years Rice had 264 catches, 4,881 yards and 49 TDs.

Unless BM really turns it on, wins some rings (which I didn’t even mention about Rice) and changes the way the world looks at him then I doubt he has any chance of becoming the G.O.A.T.

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by special agent wildcat on Aug 5, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus. I didn't know that.

Somebody will have to make 103 catch, 1,526 Yard, 13 TD seasons, every year for 15 YEARS IN A ROW to be at Rice’s level. That is mind bottling.

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by gatorfin on Aug 5, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt it'll ever happen

even if we go to 18 games.

I’m bottled by that, too!

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 5, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah mind-bottling.

When your thoughts are jumbled up like in a bottle. Go watch Blades of Glory. Will Ferrell’s character said that.

Anyhoo, yeah Rice’s records seem to be going nowhere. Kind of like Shula’s 347.

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by gatorfin on Aug 5, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol great movie

i mean i thought it was highly unlikely/borderline impossible, especially since he’s on a RUN-FIRST team now and not the triggerhappy pass first west coast niners of the nineties. But hey, it was a cool thought to ponder. If BMarsh keeps his pace and grabs 1+ ring then he WILL be a top 10 WR in NFL history however.

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by BSerious72 on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Awful movie.

Anchorman? Excellent. Step Brothers? Hilarious.

A good movie Blades of Glory was not.

Same with Talladega Nights.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Aug 5, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blades of Glory not that great but I will argue that Talladega Nights is pretty good.

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by texascowpunk on Aug 5, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of looking forward to The Other Guys myself.

Semi-Pro seemed like it had some potential in the comedy department.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Aug 6, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

IM just stupified

RICE is awesome plus he always carried himself well on and off the field……gotta love that about the guy

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 5, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats goat?

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by PotM on Aug 5, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

... greatest of all time?

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by Alpha6 on Aug 5, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

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by PotM on Aug 5, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

theres that possibility. He has all the tools outside of blazing speed.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
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by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont worry about Henne

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by Patssuck456 on Aug 5, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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by Alpha6 on Aug 5, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I KNOW IM NOT...HENNE WILL BE HUMAN BUT WAY BETTER FROM LAST YEAR

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 5, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matty

You can’t go trough day six without talking about coconut water.

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
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by 54 on Aug 5, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im having the Mrs buy some so I can try it. LOL I love me some Ricky Williams.

I still think Williams is our best RB on the roster. AM I stupid?

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but not because you believe in Ricky... LOL!

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by Alpha6 on Aug 5, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

eat my shorts man

lol

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol It's good!

Got to get it strait from the coconut while it has soft jelly inside. I don’t like it packaged, canned, etc…They add stuff to it and it changes the taste. Its a good mixer for rum/scotch. (could use some package stuff with rum/scotch)

Ha! probably not.

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
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by 54 on Aug 5, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

like it
— Sparano predicts Nolan Carroll will have a heavy special team roll in exhibition season and needs to do well to lock down a gameday spot.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

^This guy is gooood!

I hated the Ginn trade. But he’ll make that look like a sweet deal.

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
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by 54 on Aug 5, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

can he play KR?

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by PotM on Aug 5, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

Yes. He’s been rotating in for the KR position already this training camp.

by Finhead83 on Aug 6, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

good

Note to self: Read the fanshots!
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by PotM on Aug 6, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm
— Sparano said Randy Starks approach to this training camp has been very focused. Says he needs to take over as a leader in the D-line room.

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !

by MainePhinFan on Aug 5, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

WHY ARE SO MANY ON D REQUIRED TO LEAD?

dansby, bell,starks….just to name a few all asked to lead ..either this D will attack and really surprise everyone or they dont know whats going on!!!(but I believe sincerly the first)

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 5, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

pressure baby

Watching JT and Porter last year was like watching marco coleman. You wanted to like them but they got no push. We will do better with wake and misi and this will change everything. Less time in coverage and less time watching our ilb chasing down a te from behind. We need more sacks, more pressure, and most of all, more pics.

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