Dolphins Roster Bubble Watch: Camarillo trade shakes things up
The big story on Wednesday was obviously the Dolphins' trade of Greg Camarillo, picking up cornerback Benny Sapp from Minnesota. But that wasn't the only roster move the Dolphins made yesterday. They also released veteran guard Randy Thomas just one week after signing him.
These moves really do nothing but create more questions. Did the Dolphins acquire Benny Sapp because they are worried about Will Allen's recovery from a knee clean-up procedure he had earlier this month? Are the Dolphins still going to look for offensive line depth? And who replaces Greg Camarillo at wide receiver?
Lots of questions - and at this point, not many sure answers. So let's take another crack at how the 53 man roster might look as of today.
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team/4th Team |
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| QB | Chad Henne |
Chad Pennington |
Tyler Thigpen |
| RB | Ronnie Brown | Ricky Williams | Patrick Cobbs/Lex Hilliard |
| FB | Lousaka Polite | ||
| WR | Brandon Marshall |
Patrick Turner |
Marlon Moore |
| WR | Brian Hartline |
Davone Bess | |
| TE | Anthony Fasano | David Martin |
Joey Haynos |
| LT | Jake Long | Lydon Murtha |
|
| LG | Richie Incognito |
||
| C | Jake Grove |
Joe Berger |
|
| RG | John Jerry |
Donald Thomas |
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| RT | Vernon Carey | Nate Garner | |
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
| DE | Kendall Langford | Charles Grant |
Tony McDaniel |
| NT | Randy Starks |
Paul Soliai | |
| DE | Jared Odrick |
Marques Douglas |
|
| SOLB | Koa Misi |
Ike Alama-Francis |
|
| ILB | Channing Crowder | Tim Dobbins |
|
| ILB | Karlos Dansby |
Austin Spitler |
|
| WOLB | Cameron Wake |
Charlie Anderson |
|
| CB | Sean Smith |
Nolan Carroll |
Benny Sapp |
| CB | Vontae Davis | Will Allen |
Jason Allen |
| S | Yeremiah Bell | Tyrone Culver |
|
| S | Chris Clemons |
Reshad Jones |
|
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
| K | Dan Carpenter | ||
| P | Brandon Fields | ||
| LS | John Denney |
Last 5 On: Patrick Turner, Joey Haynos, Austin Spitler, Marlon Moore, Lydon Murtha
First 5 Off: Roberto Wallace, Lionel Dotson, Cory Procter, Nate Ness, Quentin Moses
Next 5 Off: Pat White, Andrew Hartline, Chris McCoy, Ryan Baker
The players highlighted are ones I consider "locks" to make the roster. I now have 40 locks - meaning I believe 13 roster spots are still up for grabs. However, injuries complicate this thing immensely. So let's dive right into it:
- I don't think the Dolphins want to keep six cornerbacks. That's a lot - especially when I also have them carrying four safeties. But Will Allen's health makes this difficult to predict. I have Will listed as a "lock" for now. But that's assuming he is healthy enough to contribute by week two or three. I don't know how long Miami could manage keeping an injured Allen on the 53 man roster. So the Injured Reserve is not out of the question.
- Nate Garner's health also creates headaches for this coaching staff. Garner is going to be out for at least the first three or four games of the regular season. Because of that, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the Dolphins carry ten offensive linemen on the roster - at least until Garner is ready to play. If that is indeed the case, the Dolphins could look to create that roster spot by carrying nine defensive backs instead of the ten I have listed above. Again, that brings me back to Will Allen - who could land on IR depending on how he's recovering. Another option for the Dolphins could be to keep only three safeties - which would mean trying to sneak Reshad Jones through waivers and onto the practice squad.
- Or the Dolphins could try carrying only four receivers, making room for a tenth offensive lineman until Garner is healthy. That would mean only one of the three bubble receivers - Patrick Turner, Marlon Moore, and Roberto Wallace - would make the team out of camp. The other two, of course, could land on the practice squad if this was the case.
- Speaking of receivers, I wouldn't be surprised at all if only one of the three I named above make the 53 man roster and add their fifth receiver from outside the organization. The Dolphins are usually active on the waiver wire and have also been known to pluck players off of other teams' practice squads. So the Dolphins' fifth receiver might not even be on the roster right now. You never know.
- Ever since last week's preseason game, Jake Grove has been working as the starting center in practice. So that's why I've bumped him up to first-team...for now. We'll likely know for sure by next week after the coaches evaluate Friday night's preseason game. But I'm banking on Grove getting the first crack with the starters tomorrow against Atlanta.
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nice write up
i hope we carry 5 receivers
we could get trade value for an olineman or hopefully someone would want will allen.
also. the more i think of it, we really won in benny sapp. apologies to GC83, you will be remembered well, but he was entirely expendable. if he fought for a spot, he wouldve been pushing hartline and all through TC that wasnt the case(regardless of injury). bank on a 30+ year old with torn acl knee problems to start 16 games for us in the nickel position with guys like welker, and other good te’s in the division amongst other playoff teams? not gonna happen. sapp wont be a huge upgrade but he’s the safer bet, more solid to man the position. though hopefully we won’t even have to use him too much and will can pull through.
I don't think we'll trade any of our O line -too valuable in the present.
I agree we keep ten as well.
Wish I really knew how the WR competition is faring. If Turner (or Moore, or whoever!) can rise up then definitely keep 4 and go deeper in the DB. At least until someone rises to the occasion.
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I don't think this FO would have traded Welker...
You have to look at the situations, because they are totally different. Remember which FO traded Welker. That should tell you something right there.
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eehh the way they are moving they would of
draft picks over anyone else.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
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by 54 on Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure they already have their eyes on some players
so we’ll probably see a few come through in the next two weeks.
I think Buffalo WR James Hardy might be in trouble after missing so much time and at 6-5 220 would definetly be worth a look as would WR/KR Rod Harper if his injury isn’t too bad.
by haildanhenningnow on Aug 26, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions
no on hardy
we have too many possesion receivers as it is….hence why we just traded cammy away.
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I wasn't really thinking of a 6-5 220 receiver with a 4.45 40
of being a possession guy.
by haildanhenningnow on Aug 26, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
he is a lot slower with pads on
and he does not play that fast on the field….you better watch some tape on him
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I can only assume that miami picked up Sapp...
for depth, possibly because of Will Allen’s status.
Is Sapp a special teamer? That might be another prospect for him being here too.
Just read a Patssuck fanshot that says, Yes, he is a good ST'er.
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Good link and details there...
I find it hard oftentimes to notice the fanshots since they are kind of out of the way…
LOLOLOL!!! @ Nat
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You just love stirring things up here don't you Nat ;)
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Aug 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a flick of the ear....
lol
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Gotta think
that either the Dolphins feel good with the WR core we have or they expect to be able to make a move soon…gotta say this trade suprised me.
Who is that masked man?
Greg will be missed for that TD against the Ravens. The Trifecta I think is good with the wr’s we have. But the db’s are still a ??? So you get a vet who played on a winning team with playoff exp. He can also help in are sad to say it weak special team unit. I say this because even the starters on sp teams were giving up way to many yards. The Trifecta have there eye on a few of the other teams that are heavy in a position they feel we need to fill. I think they could Will Allen for something to the Ravens they are short there. I don’t know about Thiggy he has been on showcase what would it take for a trade for him when you think about it there are not a bunch of teams out there with 3 qb’s which have starting exp. We may keep Pat trade Thiggy for a premium. ( player and picks or a couple of players ) that can help on sp teams and fill in as backups. We are in a good situation with having all these QBs.
a team that might do it is the lions,culpepper is getting up there in age
I understand stafford is their starting qb,but were talking a teamwith a 30+ year old backup with a bad knee. Only question is,if you make the trade with a team like detroit,what do you ask for? Lol
Another thing,stop with the trade for v.jax talk,it isn’t happening. Will allen could be shipped but you can’t really ask for much, I would package him with thiggy,maybe swing a mid round draft pick or an upgrade on d. Too bad the lions weren’t run by the raiders orginization,or we could have probably gotten them to give us Suh in return,lol.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Aug 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone on board with me?
Turner is not only going to make the team but see playing time. I am envisioning him as an impact player this year. I don’t see him getting a lot of numbers, but I see him catching atleast 2 TD’s.
I'm tentatively on board
He could become another red zone target for Henne. Having Turner and Marshall gives us two huge targets at WR along with our TEs. That could create some mismatchs in our favor. I think that’s what the coaches envision with him and may be a reason they felt Camarillo was expendable.
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does 2 TD's really qualify him as an impact player?
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if that is true
then Ginn was one heck of an impact pla…..I couldnt even finish that statement…threw up a little in my mouth just trying to speak it.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 26, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, yeah, that was a classic CKC moment
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if they make a move for a WR it could be Crayton or Hurd
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
qith three dolphins on it
I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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... there's a new word...
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of course
I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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we sure do
marshall had a ton of question marks when we got him….look how that one seems to be turning out.
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I wouldn't
Too much money would be spent on Marshall and V-Jack when the salary cap returns. There are cheaper options for #2 WRs if we wanted to make a trade.
very true
I am just saying that we could use him…his salary is another story
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What about the PUP list???...
Matty you’re talking about Will going on IR?…what about the PUP list?…does that counts against the 53-man roster?…
I think Will or Nate Garner (specially Garner) are candidates for the PUP list…not IR…what do you think?…
Keep up the good work!…
He's ineligible for the PUP list
He started TC on the active roster and participated, therefore he can’t go on the PUP. We either hold a roster spot open for him or he goes to the IR.
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no one else is eligible for the PUP list
they had to previously be on that list before the OTA’s…and they were not.
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Marino!
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I would not be surprised If the Dolphins make a move for a WR currently battling it out for the Giants
Smith
Nicks
Manningham
Hagan
Barden
Cruz
Moss
Giants ain’t keepin 7, and I’ll take any of these guys over Turner, who can’t catch get in and out of routes.
My take? Claim Cruz/Moss/Barden as #4 WR, Keep Marlon Moore as a 5 because he’s got talent and can def improve and drop Turner.
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if they ditch anyone it will be Hagan
but maybe moss could help as a KR/PR?
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Wrong
Turner has vacuum hands
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the only thing Turner and a vacuum have in common
is that they both suck
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hahahaha...
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dude, don't dispute facts.
all reports from TC surpport this.
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TC does not equal a REAL GAME
i don’t want this guy coming in a game he might be tall and even if his hand are solid he is slow to get on routes and is very easy to cover. Give me a guy with upside like Marlon Moore anyday over Turner. Sorry Pat, but the FO swung and missed with ya.
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i didn't forget
i dont think he makes the team. but he could land on the PS. I think the Dolphins want a guy who can contribute on special teams as that 4th ILB – meaning Spitler or Folsom. They are more athletic.
MATTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your sdtressing me out man were so close to the start of the season,I wouldn’t want to snap now…………
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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 26, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
SEE I CANT EVEN SPELL stressing
"I dream of a better tomarrow when chickens can cross the road and not be questioned about thier motives"
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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 26, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dolphins are showcasing Tyler Thigpen to trade him!
I know this may come as a shock to some of you. But someone once told me that this is a Business, heh Matty! Think about it for a second, who has been getting most reps in the preseason? And do you really think that someone with Thigpen skill level will be better suited as third string QB. I’m thinking draft pick or maybe a trade for a quality player that could fill a position needed. I really think they’re going to keep Pat White and turn him into a project. I could be wrong and I’ll be the first to admit it. But lets be honest, they’re not giving this guy an inkling of a chance to prove himself in preseason. Even bums in practice get to prove themselves in preseason games. It’s the whole point of evaluation isn’t it. Food For Thought!
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maybe
but you have to remember that
1 henne – hasn’t proven himself (YET)
2 Penne – is old, and i’m not entirely sure that the reason he’s only playing sparingly isn’t because his arm is about to give out
3 you are going to need a replacement for penne next year and thiggy came cheap and he has shown enough promise to be a good long term back up – if not a credible replacement if henne isn’t the guy we all hope he is.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummmm excuse me, but yeah we have 6 cornerbacks now... but that is a
very important position. It’s a good idea to get the cream of whatever crop you have sewn going into the season, especially at corner. This is a position that can either make or break a good team. Sometimes a great safety can make two average corners look very good or vise versa. However, the bottom line is that if you get three really good backs in combination, that chemistry can mix into a dynamite defensive backfield and can wi nyou some championships.
Jimbo
starting to look closer to mine
but I expect 6 wr’s this year – and haynos to be cut … and they will carry a 3rd TE on the practice squad.
Gardner is on the team ahead of murtha – pretty sure i saw him playing guard against Jax, which means they are rating him on his versatility, which is what you want a back up to have… and don’t forget the guy had a great camp last year to make the team…
Will allen will not be on the team … either cut/trade or IR with settlement…
and with grant facing multiple suspensions (starcaps and legal issues) i expect the team to keep and extra DE – either baker or more likely dotson…
Wallace makes the team – i’m almost certain of this… there is no way they try to sneak him onto the practice squad until the middle of the season (kind of like nalbone) the guy is too much of a physical talent and he will be lost if they let him go.
plus they haven’t thrown to him much in the preseason but that doesn’t mean he isn’t doing a good job, and from what i’ve seen on TV – he’s blocked downfield much better then moore and it looks to be that he runs pretty good routes. Moore’s had the flashier plays (and i like what i’ve seen) but wallace looks to do the dirty work better.
finally – the other job that is really up in the air – 4th ILB – I like johnson more the two 7th rounders …. but i think this one will go down to the last preseason game.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
SAPP
do not screw this up sapp!!!!!CAM is the man, he really did alot for this orginization. If you mess this up I’ll find you……NOLAN and sparano better know what they are doing.
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matty i know i haven't been around much - but have those screws in your head loosened?
i’m not sure how i missed this but you have HILLIARD making the team!!!!
and he’s not even one of the last 5 on??? carry 5 backs for that guy?
the guy is um…. terrible …. he fails the fall forward eye test (good backs fall forward most of the time) – and what’s worse
is that he frequently gets knocked off his feet – airborne a LOT… all of which means – he doesn’t have the strength/power and/or leverage of the guys he’s taking on… and it’s not like he’s a burner, one might say his speed is aver(SL)ag(OW)e…
and you expect the phins to carry FIVE backs for him – when they have depth issues on both lines, DB’s and excess developmental talent at WR and LB….
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
Hilliard is too valueable to leave off.
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in all seriousness
what value does he add?
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 27, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
ST coverage, short yardage back, receiving back (surprisingly a strength), FB depth,
and pass protection.
I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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and...
I hear the players call him “Sexy Lexy” for a reason…
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we must watch different phins games
he’s terrible in short yardage, terrible i say… he has no drive and gets bounced back.
and with no drive you want to make him a FB? and did i say he’s slow… so he’s a STer at best
and are you really saying you’d rather keep this guy over someone with talent?
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 27, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I have had this opinion for a while now...
… wish the team had another back…
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64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Let's kick their ass and get the hell out of here!" -- General George Armstrong Custer

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