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Dolphins Roster Bubble Watch: Camarillo trade shakes things up

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The big story on Wednesday was obviously the Dolphins' trade of Greg Camarillo, picking up cornerback Benny Sapp from Minnesota. But that wasn't the only roster move the Dolphins made yesterday. They also released veteran guard Randy Thomas just one week after signing him.

These moves really do nothing but create more questions. Did the Dolphins acquire Benny Sapp because they are worried about Will Allen's recovery from a knee clean-up procedure he had earlier this month? Are the Dolphins still going to look for offensive line depth? And who replaces Greg Camarillo at wide receiver?

Lots of questions - and at this point, not many sure answers. So let's take another crack at how the 53 man roster might look as of today.

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1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team/4th Team
QB Chad Henne
Chad Pennington
Tyler Thigpen
RB Ronnie Brown Ricky Williams Patrick Cobbs/Lex Hilliard
FB Lousaka Polite
WR Brandon Marshall
Patrick Turner
Marlon Moore
WR Brian Hartline
Davone Bess
TE Anthony Fasano David Martin
Joey Haynos
LT Jake Long Lydon Murtha
LG Richie Incognito


C Jake Grove
Joe Berger
RG John Jerry
Donald Thomas

RT Vernon Carey Nate Garner
1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
DE Kendall Langford Charles Grant
Tony McDaniel
NT Randy Starks
Paul Soliai
DE Jared Odrick
Marques Douglas

SOLB Koa Misi
Ike Alama-Francis

ILB Channing Crowder Tim Dobbins
ILB Karlos Dansby
Austin Spitler
WOLB Cameron Wake
Charlie Anderson
CB Sean Smith
Nolan Carroll
Benny Sapp
CB Vontae Davis Will Allen
Jason Allen
S Yeremiah Bell Tyrone Culver
S Chris Clemons
Reshad Jones
1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
K Dan Carpenter
P Brandon Fields
LS John Denney

Last 5 On: Patrick Turner, Joey Haynos, Austin Spitler, Marlon Moore, Lydon Murtha
First 5 Off: Roberto Wallace, Lionel Dotson, Cory Procter, Nate Ness, Quentin Moses
Next 5 Off: Pat White, Andrew Hartline, Chris McCoy, Ryan Baker

The players highlighted are ones I consider "locks" to make the roster. I now have 40 locks - meaning I believe 13 roster spots are still up for grabs. However, injuries complicate this thing immensely. So let's dive right into it:

  • I don't think the Dolphins want to keep six cornerbacks. That's a lot - especially when I also have them carrying four safeties. But Will Allen's health makes this difficult to predict. I have Will listed as a "lock" for now. But that's assuming he is healthy enough to contribute by week two or three. I don't know how long Miami could manage keeping an injured Allen on the 53 man roster. So the Injured Reserve is not out of the question.
  • Nate Garner's health also creates headaches for this coaching staff. Garner is going to be out for at least the first three or four games of the regular season. Because of that, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the Dolphins carry ten offensive linemen on the roster - at least until Garner is ready to play. If that is indeed the case, the Dolphins could look to create that roster spot by carrying nine defensive backs instead of the ten I have listed above. Again, that brings me back to Will Allen - who could land on IR depending on how he's recovering. Another option for the Dolphins could be to keep only three safeties - which would mean trying to sneak Reshad Jones through waivers and onto the practice squad.
  • Or the Dolphins could try carrying only four receivers, making room for a tenth offensive lineman until Garner is healthy. That would mean only one of the three bubble receivers - Patrick Turner, Marlon Moore, and Roberto Wallace - would make the team out of camp. The other two, of course, could land on the practice squad if this was the case.
  • Speaking of receivers, I wouldn't be surprised at all if only one of the three I named above make the 53 man roster and add their fifth receiver from outside the organization. The Dolphins are usually active on the waiver wire and have also been known to pluck players off of other teams' practice squads. So the Dolphins' fifth receiver might not even be on the roster right now. You never know.
  • Ever since last week's preseason game, Jake Grove has been working as the starting center in practice. So that's why I've bumped him up to first-team...for now. We'll likely know for sure by next week after the coaches evaluate Friday night's preseason game. But I'm banking on Grove getting the first crack with the starters tomorrow against Atlanta.

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nice write up

i hope we carry 5 receivers

we could get trade value for an olineman or hopefully someone would want will allen.

also. the more i think of it, we really won in benny sapp. apologies to GC83, you will be remembered well, but he was entirely expendable. if he fought for a spot, he wouldve been pushing hartline and all through TC that wasnt the case(regardless of injury). bank on a 30+ year old with torn acl knee problems to start 16 games for us in the nickel position with guys like welker, and other good te’s in the division amongst other playoff teams? not gonna happen. sapp wont be a huge upgrade but he’s the safer bet, more solid to man the position. though hopefully we won’t even have to use him too much and will can pull through.

by berryyyy on Aug 26, 2010 6:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think we'll trade any of our O line -too valuable in the present.

I agree we keep ten as well.
Wish I really knew how the WR competition is faring. If Turner (or Moore, or whoever!) can rise up then definitely keep 4 and go deeper in the DB. At least until someone rises to the occasion.

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 26, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of when we traded Wes Welker. I don’t like this trade. :(

by Attilles on Aug 26, 2010 6:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think this FO would have traded Welker...

You have to look at the situations, because they are totally different. Remember which FO traded Welker. That should tell you something right there.

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by The Earl on Aug 26, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

eehh the way they are moving they would of

draft picks over anyone else.

Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)

by 54 on Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they already have their eyes on some players

so we’ll probably see a few come through in the next two weeks.

I think Buffalo WR James Hardy might be in trouble after missing so much time and at 6-5 220 would definetly be worth a look as would WR/KR Rod Harper if his injury isn’t too bad.

by haildanhenningnow on Aug 26, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

no on hardy

we have too many possesion receivers as it is….hence why we just traded cammy away.

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is a lot slower with pads on

and he does not play that fast on the field….you better watch some tape on him

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by Dragon27az on Aug 27, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can only assume that miami picked up Sapp...

for depth, possibly because of Will Allen’s status.

Is Sapp a special teamer? That might be another prospect for him being here too.

by Natalya on Aug 26, 2010 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Just read a Patssuck fanshot that says, Yes, he is a good ST'er.

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 26, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good link and details there...

I find it hard oftentimes to notice the fanshots since they are kind of out of the way…

by Natalya on Aug 26, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOLOL!!! @ Nat

i see what u’r doing… ;^)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

You just love stirring things up here don't you Nat ;)

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Aug 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a flick of the ear....

lol

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by Alpha6 on Aug 26, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta think

that either the Dolphins feel good with the WR core we have or they expect to be able to make a move soon…gotta say this trade suprised me.

by cubman987 on Aug 26, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Who is that masked man?

Greg will be missed for that TD against the Ravens. The Trifecta I think is good with the wr’s we have. But the db’s are still a ??? So you get a vet who played on a winning team with playoff exp. He can also help in are sad to say it weak special team unit. I say this because even the starters on sp teams were giving up way to many yards. The Trifecta have there eye on a few of the other teams that are heavy in a position they feel we need to fill. I think they could Will Allen for something to the Ravens they are short there. I don’t know about Thiggy he has been on showcase what would it take for a trade for him when you think about it there are not a bunch of teams out there with 3 qb’s which have starting exp. We may keep Pat trade Thiggy for a premium. ( player and picks or a couple of players ) that can help on sp teams and fill in as backups. We are in a good situation with having all these QBs.

by Jel81 on Aug 26, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

a team that might do it is the lions,culpepper is getting up there in age

I understand stafford is their starting qb,but were talking a teamwith a 30+ year old backup with a bad knee. Only question is,if you make the trade with a team like detroit,what do you ask for? Lol

Another thing,stop with the trade for v.jax talk,it isn’t happening. Will allen could be shipped but you can’t really ask for much, I would package him with thiggy,maybe swing a mid round draft pick or an upgrade on d. Too bad the lions weren’t run by the raiders orginization,or we could have probably gotten them to give us Suh in return,lol.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Aug 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anyone on board with me?

Turner is not only going to make the team but see playing time. I am envisioning him as an impact player this year. I don’t see him getting a lot of numbers, but I see him catching atleast 2 TD’s.

by thanksboo on Aug 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm tentatively on board

He could become another red zone target for Henne. Having Turner and Marshall gives us two huge targets at WR along with our TEs. That could create some mismatchs in our favor. I think that’s what the coaches envision with him and may be a reason they felt Camarillo was expendable.

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by The Earl on Aug 26, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

does 2 TD's really qualify him as an impact player?

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol... to some, I guess...

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by Alpha6 on Aug 26, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that is true

then Ginn was one heck of an impact pla…..I couldnt even finish that statement…threw up a little in my mouth just trying to speak it.

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!

… and I like this!

“guttenhiemerschnitzel!!”

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by Alpha6 on Aug 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha, yeah, that was a classic CKC moment

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they make a move for a WR it could be Crayton or Hurd

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by Patssuck456 on Aug 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

or V-Jack

;^)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

if we could afford that

would there be any better receiving corps?

"I likem me some UDFAs"

by Phintastic on Aug 26, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

The AFC Pro Bowl squad.

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by Dolphinole on Aug 26, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

qith three dolphins on it

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

... there's a new word...

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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

we sure do

marshall had a ton of question marks when we got him….look how that one seems to be turning out.

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

Too much money would be spent on Marshall and V-Jack when the salary cap returns. There are cheaper options for #2 WRs if we wanted to make a trade.

by Finhead83 on Aug 27, 2010 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

very true

I am just saying that we could use him…his salary is another story

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by Dragon27az on Aug 27, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about the PUP list???...

Matty you’re talking about Will going on IR?…what about the PUP list?…does that counts against the 53-man roster?…

I think Will or Nate Garner (specially Garner) are candidates for the PUP list…not IR…what do you think?…

Keep up the good work!…

by Javier Marino on Aug 26, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

He's ineligible for the PUP list

He started TC on the active roster and participated, therefore he can’t go on the PUP. We either hold a roster spot open for him or he goes to the IR.

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by The Earl on Aug 26, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one else is eligible for the PUP list

they had to previously be on that list before the OTA’s…and they were not.

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marino!

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would not be surprised If the Dolphins make a move for a WR currently battling it out for the Giants

Smith
Nicks
Manningham
Hagan
Barden
Cruz
Moss

Giants ain’t keepin 7, and I’ll take any of these guys over Turner, who can’t catch get in and out of routes.

My take? Claim Cruz/Moss/Barden as #4 WR, Keep Marlon Moore as a 5 because he’s got talent and can def improve and drop Turner.

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by BSerious72 on Aug 26, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

if they ditch anyone it will be Hagan

but maybe moss could help as a KR/PR?

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by Dragon27az on Aug 26, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong

Turner has vacuum hands

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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

the only thing Turner and a vacuum have in common

is that they both suck

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by BSerious72 on Aug 27, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha...

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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, don't dispute facts.

all reports from TC surpport this.

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

TC does not equal a REAL GAME

i don’t want this guy coming in a game he might be tall and even if his hand are solid he is slow to get on routes and is very easy to cover. Give me a guy with upside like Marlon Moore anyday over Turner. Sorry Pat, but the FO swung and missed with ya.

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by BSerious72 on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barden

Barden won’t be cut by NYG.

by Finhead83 on Aug 27, 2010 5:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

matty

i think you forgot micah johnson is on the team?

by dhall25 on Aug 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

i didn't forget

i dont think he makes the team. but he could land on the PS. I think the Dolphins want a guy who can contribute on special teams as that 4th ILB – meaning Spitler or Folsom. They are more athletic.

by Matty I on Aug 26, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh gotcha

sorry for questioning you :)

by dhall25 on Aug 27, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

MATTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your sdtressing me out man were so close to the start of the season,I wouldn’t want to snap now…………

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 26, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

SEE I CANT EVEN SPELL stressing

"I dream of a better tomarrow when chickens can cross the road and not be questioned about thier motives"

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 26, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Dolphins are showcasing Tyler Thigpen to trade him!

I know this may come as a shock to some of you. But someone once told me that this is a Business, heh Matty! Think about it for a second, who has been getting most reps in the preseason? And do you really think that someone with Thigpen skill level will be better suited as third string QB. I’m thinking draft pick or maybe a trade for a quality player that could fill a position needed. I really think they’re going to keep Pat White and turn him into a project. I could be wrong and I’ll be the first to admit it. But lets be honest, they’re not giving this guy an inkling of a chance to prove himself in preseason. Even bums in practice get to prove themselves in preseason games. It’s the whole point of evaluation isn’t it. Food For Thought!

by Shinobi_Shogun on Aug 26, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You must whipser this behind closed doors...

The Pat White haters will see this and cast “1000 Years Bad JuJu” against you!!!!! Run Shinobi, I fear for your health!!!

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by Heater OsE on Aug 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Weecho85 on Aug 26, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, yeah. That's the reason....

(men in white coats tip toe towards Shinobi)

(Heater backs away quietly thinking not to be seen in the area)

lol

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by Alpha6 on Aug 26, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

but you have to remember that

1 henne – hasn’t proven himself (YET)
2 Penne – is old, and i’m not entirely sure that the reason he’s only playing sparingly isn’t because his arm is about to give out
3 you are going to need a replacement for penne next year and thiggy came cheap and he has shown enough promise to be a good long term back up – if not a credible replacement if henne isn’t the guy we all hope he is.

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm excuse me, but yeah we have 6 cornerbacks now... but that is a

very important position. It’s a good idea to get the cream of whatever crop you have sewn going into the season, especially at corner. This is a position that can either make or break a good team. Sometimes a great safety can make two average corners look very good or vise versa. However, the bottom line is that if you get three really good backs in combination, that chemistry can mix into a dynamite defensive backfield and can wi nyou some championships.

Jimbo

by Dolphinator on Aug 26, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

starting to look closer to mine

but I expect 6 wr’s this year – and haynos to be cut … and they will carry a 3rd TE on the practice squad.

Gardner is on the team ahead of murtha – pretty sure i saw him playing guard against Jax, which means they are rating him on his versatility, which is what you want a back up to have… and don’t forget the guy had a great camp last year to make the team…

Will allen will not be on the team … either cut/trade or IR with settlement…

and with grant facing multiple suspensions (starcaps and legal issues) i expect the team to keep and extra DE – either baker or more likely dotson…

Wallace makes the team – i’m almost certain of this… there is no way they try to sneak him onto the practice squad until the middle of the season (kind of like nalbone) the guy is too much of a physical talent and he will be lost if they let him go.
plus they haven’t thrown to him much in the preseason but that doesn’t mean he isn’t doing a good job, and from what i’ve seen on TV – he’s blocked downfield much better then moore and it looks to be that he runs pretty good routes. Moore’s had the flashier plays (and i like what i’ve seen) but wallace looks to do the dirty work better.

finally – the other job that is really up in the air – 4th ILB – I like johnson more the two 7th rounders …. but i think this one will go down to the last preseason game.

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

SAPP

do not screw this up sapp!!!!!CAM is the man, he really did alot for this orginization. If you mess this up I’ll find you……NOLAN and sparano better know what they are doing.

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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 26, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

matty i know i haven't been around much - but have those screws in your head loosened?

i’m not sure how i missed this but you have HILLIARD making the team!!!!
and he’s not even one of the last 5 on??? carry 5 backs for that guy?

the guy is um…. terrible …. he fails the fall forward eye test (good backs fall forward most of the time) – and what’s worse
is that he frequently gets knocked off his feet – airborne a LOT… all of which means – he doesn’t have the strength/power and/or leverage of the guys he’s taking on… and it’s not like he’s a burner, one might say his speed is aver(SL)ag(OW)e…

and you expect the phins to carry FIVE backs for him – when they have depth issues on both lines, DB’s and excess developmental talent at WR and LB….

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hilliard is too valueable to leave off.

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

in all seriousness

what value does he add?

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 27, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

ST coverage, short yardage back, receiving back (surprisingly a strength), FB depth,

and pass protection.

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 27, 2010 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

and...

I hear the players call him “Sexy Lexy” for a reason…

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by Heater OsE on Aug 27, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

... sick.... tmi

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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

we must watch different phins games

he’s terrible in short yardage, terrible i say… he has no drive and gets bounced back.
and with no drive you want to make him a FB? and did i say he’s slow… so he’s a STer at best
and are you really saying you’d rather keep this guy over someone with talent?

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 27, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have had this opinion for a while now...

… wish the team had another back…

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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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