The sky is falling: What concerns you most right now about Dolphins?
The midpoint of the preseason is always a time when fans around the league like to overreact about their team's struggles. If you've been around this site for a while, then you know that this is especially true among Dolphin fans.
After the first preseason game, many Dolphin fans were worried about the offense and how out of sync they seemed. But one week later, fans are as excited as ever about the possibilities this offense has. That's how quickly opinions can change.
With that in mind, I ask the question - through two preseason games, what concerns you the most about this team? Some options:
Dropped passes - Whether it's been Brandon Marshall or Brian Hartline, the starting Dolphin receivers have had a hard time catching the football from Chad Henne this preseason. I know Henne has a strong arm, but come on. Though you might be able to chalk it up to the weather the team has played in this preseason, there has to be a little bit of concern among many that this could be a sign of things to come, right? Or maybe many of us are overreacting here.
Offensive line struggles - During camp and during the team scrimmage, there was a lot made about how Miami's offensive line seemed to be having lots of trouble picking up Mike Nolan's blitz packages that he was throwing at them. This preseason, though, the starting offensive line has been protecting Henne well and giving the running backs some lanes to run through. Of course, opponents are yet to really test this unit by throwing at them their own blitzes. So we can't be sure yet that those early camp troubles are behind them. You also need to be concerned with how poorly the backup offensive line has performed this preseason. We all better pray that Miami's two starting tackles make it through the season injury-free, that's for sure.
Pass rushing woes - We know that the Dolphins haven't shown much of anything in the way of Mike Nolan's blitz packages, instead rushing no more than four on most plays. But you have to be a little bit concerned with the defense's inability to get to the quarterback without blitzing. The defensive line has got to generate some sort of pressure when they don't have help from blitzing linebackers or defensive backs. Otherwise these high-powered offenses that the Dolphins face in 2010 are going to give Miami fits.
Secondary struggles - This is probably my biggest concern right now. Miami's young secondary has allowed far too many big plays this preseason against offenses that aren't exactly among the best. This goes back to a trend we saw in 2009 where the young corners would look good one minute and then allow a big play the next. Sure, the Dolphins have been playing a vanilla defense. Still, these are basic base packages and Vontae Davis and Sean Smith are showing that they may not be ready to play straight up man coverage with little safety help - something Nolan asks his corners to play so that he can aggressively attack the quarterback.
Special teams play - Outside of a few booming punts by Brandon Fields and decent kick returns by Nolan Carroll, Miami's special teams have looked pretty bad. Poor blocking out of their punt formation has caused Fields to have two blocked punts already this preseason. Yes, some of it is on him because he needs to get the punt off quicker. But still, we're seeing virtually unblocked defenders getting into Brandon's face. That's inexcusable. Coverage has also been a problem this preseason, both on punts and kicks. Already this preseason, the Dolphins have allowed three kick returns of 40+ yards and a couple of 20+ yard punt returns. Those kinds of mistakes can change games in a heartbeat in the regular season.
So what worries you the most right now? Let us know below and cast your vote in our poll that's located in the right sidebar of the front page.
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CLS
The new pandemic sweeping the Dolphin nation.
The first step is prevention:
1. Stay indoors
2. Do NOT watch the Dolphins either in person or on TV
The second step is treatment. Once you contract Chicken Little Syndrome or CLS the medical community has little options for proper treatment. Here is what is available.
1. Drink ALOT of alcohol. This is a short term solution. Once you sober up and find your way back home the symptoms may start again.
2. Find a new favorite team. Maybe the Saints or the Colts or someone more stable. I know its blasphemous but people will go to great measures to find relief.
3. Move to Figi. The native are topless and there is no electricity.
4. Frontal Labotomy. Seems many people especially Jets fans have already had this procedure. Proven to calm you down and make you less agitated and more vegitative.
5. Go to Wal-Mart and buy a clue. I hear they are onsale right now and yes you too can finally have a clue!! It is only preseason so calm down!!
3.
by labrat3105 on Aug 25, 2010 7:57 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'd have to go with the first option
Drink ALOT of alcohol…. that’s the most viable option….
New favorite team just ain’t gonna happen.
Figi…. Hell the Plane ticket will rape you in price alone… oh wait, that’s the baggage fees.
Topless chicks are a plus though so that’s a toss up.
Frontal Lobotomy? Na, I’d rather be able to count higher than a Jets fan….. 10 should be good right?
Walmart? They just sold out of clues….. it was part of a roll back special, I heard they shipped them all up to NY anyways.
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 25, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
Karlos Dansby (check)
Brandon Marshall (check)
Awesome Defensive Draft. Hell Yeah!
... excellent...
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This is an "ask John Bonamego" moment.
Special teams.
The O line & D line are gonna be fine. I dunno about the sophomore secondary, though.
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I second the Special Teams....
Although…… It does make it hard punting from deep in your own end zone… I think a band of Kindergardners could have blocked that punt with as little room as there was….. BUT! those massive returns are for the birds…..
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 25, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
to me that blocked punt will just be a distant memory come the regular season
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Yeah, it concerns me because this area usually carries into the season...
They gotta get it down……. And Quick!
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We shouldn't worry so much about special teams
as Sparano says, and as it’s painfully obvious, we’re mixing and matching and playing guys who are fighting for their roster spot.
ST is going to suck until the regular season starts.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Aug 25, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Secondary
That’s my #1 concern right now. I understand how this isn’t at all the same defense we’re going to be playing during the regular season, but still it seems Vontae and Sean haven’t really taken a step forward.
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Secondary should get better
With more pressure on the qb (exotic blitzes) releasing sooner or not as acurately have faith they’ll be fine.
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by Seminolephinatic on Aug 25, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't doubt they'll get better
But I wish I could say they’ve played even decent this preseason, at least in the coverage aspect. Both Freeman and Garrard put up numbers that, if extrapolated to playing a full game, would be career days for both of them. Going 6/8 for like seventy-something yards and a touchdown shouldn’t happen, I’d rather see 4/8 for maybe 40 yards and no touchdowns.
"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
But you have to be a little bit concerned with the defense's inability to get to the quarterback without blitzing?
In no way shape or form am I concerned about our “D” getting to the QB / creating pressure, even with out a blitz….. Sorry, but we all know that really wont be an issue once the whistle blows in regular season….. Not even a thought to worry about. Going in to Pre Season, everyone was stoked about the “D”…. if they can get through our line they can get through any line. Few crappy preseason games are just good practices with a boner. We will be fine.
I have to disagree,
do Wake, Odrick, Misi, Starks, Grant etc feel like they have nothing to prove? If thats the case cut them right now, we’re talking about rookies, first year starters, guys at new positions, and new players trying to fit in and earn a job, they should be laying it on the line and not holding back, just sayin.
You may be right, we may rush the passer well during the season, but as of right now it is a bit of a concern because they aren’t getting there, we have created some pressure but it’s been late and not really dangerous, just average.
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by uncle finster on Aug 25, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
^^^^^^^Completely agree
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Jail Break blitzes will cure that...
… average is all anyone can expect in Pre-season…
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A clever blitz system will help for sure,
but teams that are good at rushing the passer can do it in a base set, and teams that are good at picking up the blitz can hurt you if you can’t create rush with your base set, iow the good teams, lol, if we want to compete in the east we have to be good.
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by uncle finster on Aug 25, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see what you're saying, but...
We have seen two scramble QB’s… they tend to be a bit tricky to tackle….. lets see how they do against a pocket passer…. You and I both know they won’t be able to block the front 3 or 4 all of the time… Wake alone will stir up the Kool-Aid on his own in the QB’s backfield…. Heck he may as well pay property tax for as often as he’s going to be there.
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 25, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree about Wake,
not to sure about Misi yet, saw some TEs standing him up a couple times, seen him be controlled by lineman a little, and nothing impressive yet as far as plays really, Odrick has been decent, but again unspectacular, don’t get me wrong, this is nothing to panic about, it happens all the time with conversion players, and these guys are ahead of most, but are still rookies learning new positions, there will be growing pains.
As good as Vontae and Sean were last year, were there growing pains? you bet your sweet bippy there were, lol, and they weren’t learning new positions, just sayin.
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by uncle finster on Aug 25, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
True on the growing pains.....
If I was with the Colt FO, I’d be slapping the hell out of the panic button (just a thought I had). You have a point there, I haven’t seen much from Misi either. Learning a new position is tough enough, but looking at our first 8 games, it could be tougher… Odrick and Starks will do well from “go” I think….(when the games count). I wouldn’t be surprised is Starks drew double teams more often than not. Less we forget about Dansby and Crowder…..
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 27, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly Right Finster
And this coincides with the lack of coverage in the secondary. Both units, the secondary and the pass rushers, need to be able to beat their man straight up. Forget exotic blitz packages. Guys need to beat their man and pressure the QB sometimes. Guys need to cover their WR’s sometimes. Blitzing can’t be the end all and be all.
Guys need to win individual battles. Pass rushers need to rush the passer. CB’s need to cover WR’s. The magical blitz doesn’t solve the issues we as fans have seen the last two weeks.
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1000% agreement here CT.
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by uncle finster on Aug 25, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
a good pass rush dictates what the offense can do. let’s be honest, the jets seem to have one hell of a defense, and it all starts with rushing the qb. it makes them nervous, causes mistakes, and makes the secondary’s job a HELL of a lot easier.
37 years is long enough to wait for another Super Bowl title. How about it Dolphins?
We should be concerned about our pass rush
Right now we have 3 guys out of our front 7 who have shown that they can get to the QB (Wake/Starks/Dansby)
Oh and we put one of our better pass rusher’s in a situation where its an easy double team
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It's really hard to put a pass rush on QB's with good legs under them....
Lets see how we do against a “less athletic” QB.
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 27, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing its preseason
I remember when the Dolphins got Ricky Williams for the first, in preseason, he did absolutely horrible. Well he lead the lead in rushing that year…. so… nothing
The Patriots Suck
How about that year Dallas went 0-4 in pre season....
didn’t they go to the Super Bowl that year?
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 27, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What I would say I'm kinda worried about is the secondary but I feel Nolan has the fix for that.
What I’m really worried about is special teams. Not so much the return aspect of it but the defensive part of it. I dont know if its the players that are not staying in there tackling lanes or not knowing how to tackle. It could even be that we just need a new special teams coach. What ever the problem is, its the same problem we had last year and I feel it is the biggest problem we have on our team.
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Secondary
Its a lot harder to blitz when ur corners struggle in man coverage.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 25, 2010 9:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Or
Your corners get better at man coverage when you blitz a lot harder.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Our corners are getting beat too easily (quickly) for blitzing to remedy it
I am starting to think the success of Denver last year had alot to do with Bailey’s coverage skills
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmmmm
I seem to recall saying that during the early part of the offseason and many people were on here saying that Nolan had done wonders in Denver and would take our team without any new draft picks and turn it instantly into a top 10 defense. That is much easier to do when you have a Champ Bailey and Brian Dawkins. It’s really easy to work magic up front when you don’t have to worry much about the secondary.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Aug 26, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Secondary, but more specifically:
1. Nickel Corner. I like Carroll’s speed and kick return ability, and I love that he’s getting noticed in practice, but we need Will Allen in a big way. I know getting your knee cleaned is no big deal in and of itself, but it could be an indicator that his rehab is going as quickly as we all hope. And nickel seems to put particular stress on the knees, with its demand for quick cuts and lateral movement.
2. Vontae Davis. He’s one of my favorite players on the D, based on his attitude, love of contact, and tendency to make big plays. But jeezus he is maddeningly inconsistent, and got roasted by a freaking Buccaneer. Even in the preseason, that’s embarrassing.
3. Safety. Just because, until the bullets are live, who really knows if CC can do the job.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Aug 25, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
PASS RUSH DL and OLB
I am pretty sure the special teams will be below average – but that never scares me if we have a dynamic offense (we do) solid running game (we do) and above average defense…(probably)…
PASS RUSH – has looked terrible without any blitzing yet… I am sure NOLAN will be able to help this when the season starts, but against Manning, Brady, Rogers, Flacco, and Farve – just blitzing won’t work without pressure from the base DL package.
Wake, Misi, Odrick all HAVE LOOKED AVERAGE TO ME when it comes to pass rush.
So I am real worried there……..Personally I wouldnt have drafted either Misi or Odrick – so I am most worried abouot their ability to bring pressure – Wake gives me the most confidence – but he hasnt looked great in the preseason yet.
The secondary will be fine ! BELL is a real good player and Davis and Smith are young, talented players and they have all the “position skills” needed to be HUGE successes….. not sure Misi or Odrick have the same “position skill set” to bring the HEAT on 3rd down…. I wanted more speed off the edge (smaller quicker players) not 300 lb lineman who are slow…. No matter what this will be our best season in a long while – I still predict 10 wins at a minimum….GO FINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pass rush
how has the pass rush been poor the starter are playing a half or less so far and I know starks has a sack. it was 21 to 12 at half vs jax and 2 point on saftey given up.
by virginiafinfan on Aug 25, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
I'd have to say the pass rush and the secondary mainly because they rely on each other so much.
If we can’t generate a decent pass rush, the secondary is going to struggle to maintain coverage.
If we can’t cover, it won’t matter if we generate a pass rush because the QB will be able to find someone open quickly.
Unfortunately we won’t find out the answers to these questions till the season starts. Until we see our defense executing more complex schemes, we won’t know how either will hold up. All we know for sure right now is if we don’t blitz, our starting lineman are not getting adequate pressure on the QB and our secondary is struggling in man-to-man coverage.
Personally I would like to see us go back to the bump and run coverage we employed under Jim Bates. I know that requires good man-to-man coverage CBs (Madison and Surtain were perfect for that scheme), but add that with Nolan’s exotic blitzing schemes (Jim Bates was not a blitzer) and it will compensate for our CBs.
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We also had Jason Taylor in his prime
Our players made Bates vanilla defense look good
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
A little perspective here...
First of all, as for pass rush, you all do realize that both opposing QBs, Freeman and Garrard, are not only very mobile but also very physical…I watch both games a couple of times (on NFL Network and I recorded Jax game) and it didn’t seem to me as if either one had all day to throw when the starters were in there (I don’t pay much attention to second stringers), but, since both are very mobile, they were able to avoid most of the pass rush…further, Jax has a beeter OL than the bucs do, which might explain why Misi and the others didn’t do as well against the Jags.
Second was the secondary. Davis and Smith did give up big plays in both games to not really that great WRs and TEs, but all told the starting D only gave up 17 points total in the two games. The Jets didn’t do much better, and neither did the Steelers and some of the other top motch Ds (only the Ravens, IMHO, have done really great on D in the preseason). Although Sean does miss some tackles (and that is something he must work on!), Davis and Clemons both are good tacklers and all three, for pity sake, are only entering their second season! Even Darelle Revis had some problems in his second season, so why the CLS here?
Third is the dropsies…this could be a concern but both Marshall and Hartline know this is a problem and will work on it…neither of these two is a Ted Ginn, who could have cared less about dropping the ball. Brandon and Brian are gutsy players, after all.
Forth is OL. As long as all of the starters and most of the backups can play well (until Garner comes back, then so-so types like Murtha can take a hike), I’m not gonna worry. Miami’s backups are better than a lot of team’s starters are!
Special teams? Well, I’d rather have so-so special teams and go 11-5 (2008) than have much better special teams and go 7-9 (2009). “Bono” as he is called will just have to suck it up and get them playing better—two blocked punts in two games is ridiculous!—or Sparano will do to him what he did to Pasqualoni.
Biggest concern? injuries to Henne, Long, Ronnie, Starks, Dansby, Bell, Carey, Marshall, Bess, Fasano…and the rest of the potential Pro Bowlers on this team, and leaders too.
by snorky on Aug 25, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Well said Sir^^^^^
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
But I would like to see more out of our Special Teams
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You..... you....
(i have nothing)
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 25, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That depends on whose definition of "newbie" you go by...
but if you were a regular (and presumably a journalist given your scenario), you’d be shredded by your fellow phinsiders should you ever write an article critical of the team!
heh heh heh
heh heh heh
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by uncle finster on Aug 25, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I am also positive.
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by texascowpunk on Aug 26, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You tested positive! Ah man!
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by texascowpunk on Aug 26, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Highly Intelligent = Simplex 15
(all girls and Nicky run away…)
lmao
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by texascowpunk on Aug 26, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
* ting! *
Snorky….is ….a She.
Well I feel pretty much like an idiot.
My most profound appologies.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 26, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL I am sure she will let the first one slide.
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by texascowpunk on Aug 26, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I was fooled by the dorsal fin.
You can just skim dumb off me for a month.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 26, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Not necessary I am sure.
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by texascowpunk on Aug 26, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
There have been much worse gafa's around here than that....
… and now shall remain silent….
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by texascowpunk on Aug 27, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
... (with a slanted look and head bob)
You should talk.
lmao!
But yeah, I’ve had my share…
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Are you saying I have had gaffes?
Link it or it did not happen.
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by texascowpunk on Aug 28, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Berger and Donald Thomas are the only backup lineman that can possibly start for another team
the main worries about our backup line is at tackle. We dont even have a capable backup tackle right now. Hurry back Garner! You ARE our depth
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough Said....
few good points that make a good point….
“starting D only gave up 17 points total in the two games. " TRUE.
“Miami’s backups are better than a lot of team’s starters are!” Another TRUE.
And the biggest and best point:
“injuries to Henne, Long, Ronnie, Starks, Dansby, Bell, Carey, Marshall, Bess, Fasano…” Should and should be the only concern worth paying attention to…… I say it again, all the folks with CLS, not too long ago were raving about the “D”. Lets not jump off the wagon yet…..
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 25, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with most of your points Snorky, except with the secondary.
Those same CB’s didn’t cover very well last year. We dismissed a lot of it because they were rookies. Now they are 2nd year starters and I haven’t seen a lot of improvement. Davis and Smith need to be able to lock down the starters for JAX and TB and they haven’t. These are the two worst WR’s corp / QB combinations that the Phins will face in the next 3 months (maybe BUF is an exception).
If Davis and Smith can’t play man coverage that limits the type of blitz package Nolan can employ. These exotic blitz schemes that everyone wants to see once the regular season starts won’t happen because Nolan can’t count on his CB’s to cover. Sparano is worried about it. Bell is worried about it. And if Nolan was asked I am sure he is worried about it.
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Buff doesnt have a QB but Lee Evans is better than MSW imo
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense - overall
I’m still hoping Nolan is keeping his special plays a secret and that will help the young defense become a great unit. As for the Special teams, have we ever had a great Special Teams?? We might have to go back to OJ McDuffie for decent PR, but even he fair caught alot of balls. I dont mind having a mediocre return team as long as they also dont give up the big plays to the other team.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
What i dont want to see again
is a slow @ss TE catching a damn ball and getting 10, 20, 50 yards after the catch. I’ve seen that too many times over the last few years.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
Fasano?
you gotta admit it took Fasano FOREVER to get in the endzone
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope that is sarcasm!!!!
If teams are going to Double team Marshall AND Hartline, then by all means, Let Fasano get 20 TD’s this season!!!!!
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
I meant TEs
catching balls against us, hell i hope Fasano has a career year.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
I think that number will drop significantly
Seeing as we do NOT play Indy this year!! LOL
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
I will be at the Dallas game, hopefully we can
hold Witten to under 200 yards.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
HUH?
We better hold Witten below 200….
by Rickslilpiece on Aug 25, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You get to see ALL the scrubs playing
The starters will probably play the first series only in the last preseason game
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
Oh when I saw slow TE I just pictured that Fasano TD
I was seriously thinking that he was going to get caught from behind by a DT
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright first things first
The defense will be fine. Mike Nolan knows how to utilize the talent he has and come regular season, he’s going to have things rollin’ full steam ahead. Sure we should be looking better in our basic defense, but it’s the damn preseason so there’s no reason to panic. The preseason is a time to evaluate depth and NOT your starters. Don’t get me wrong, you can get a decent feel for your starters in that first quarter or two, but it shouldn’t be overexaggerated. Also you won’t get a good feel for the offensive line until they stop rotating the starting unit, because the line as a whole has to build chemistry if they want to be effective. Now when looking at our deoth defensivley Paul Soliai is looking primed for a good year (and once again Nolan will know how to utilize him), Dobbins should be a solid backup for us, and our defensive backs have some nice competition as well. Now looking at our depth offensively all I gotta say is Marlon Moore… Enough said.
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by Deuce Black on Aug 25, 2010 10:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
what about special teams they have been lacking since last year and with no obvious sign of improvement.
I think we need a new coach or something.
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Well the kick coverage was actually pretty good last year
I just think its because their mixing guys up in the preseason
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You cant just say our defense will be fine and it to be true
Our defense consistently let our team down last year so it remains a cause for concern. The same problems are propping up their ugly little heads. Our safety play has been shaky (yes even Bell) our young corners are wildly inconsistent and we are getting a sporadic pass rush. I have faith in Nolan but there is only so much he can do. My expectations are tempered. We’re not gonna be making vast improvements like Denver did last year
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you for saying that
sometimes we fans act as though our desire for something to be true is sufficient to make it so.
It’s not being a chicken little to point out the weaknesses of our team to this point. Our D has a LONG way to go from last year, and coordinators rarely have the huge impact Nolan had on Denver last year—it would be unwise to assume he will have the same impact on us, simply because we want him to.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Aug 25, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You do have a point
BUT it is CLS to worry about EVERY SINGLE mistake made and think that the team is in trouble
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Smh bruh when I say our defense will be fine, I mean it's going to be
better than it was last year.
Our 2 corners now have a year of starting experience under their belt. And no one is perfect but trust me Bell was not the problem last year. With the change of coaching, the addition of Karlos Dansby, and a healthy Channing Crowder will make a huge difference. Not to mention the potential of Cam Wake, Jared Odrick, and Chris Clemons to the defense. So for the most part things are bright
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There are about 25 guys playing right now who won't be on the team after Sept 4
Most of those guys are seeing time on Special Teams right now. We’re not really going to get an idea of what 2010 holds for the ST until the Buffalo game.
Every other team in the NFL is in the exact same spot as we are.
Firing coaches in training camp is a sure sign of panic and an organization in disarry – see Buffalo Bills.
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but from what I seen from last year ST was a real concern
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I'm not asking for a change now but we should be thinking about it
an nothing has really changed. But yea I can be patient and wait till the Bills but like I said ST is looking like a concern again
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A new voice in ST's will be necessary for next year
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I must have been watching something else then cuz to me it looked like teams would be able to run the ball back a lot further on us than some other teams
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Can we please stop talking about this?
I’ll be worried if we lose our opening game against the Bills. I have no concerns about pre-season football. Time and time again it proves to mean nothing.
by PhinnyFromItaly on Aug 25, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
D’italia, veramente? Se ti posso chiedere, da che parte di Italia habita?
English: In italy really? If you dont mind me asking what part of Italy do you live in?
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
... she's Pigmy
lmao
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"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Let's kick their ass and get the hell out of here!" -- General George Armstrong Custer
As for Fields holding the ball for too long...
I’m not a punt expert…is he really taking too long to punt off the ball? Isn’t there a whole (body) movement that you should necessarily observe?
…on the other hand, although I’m not a punt blocking expert, it’s easy to tell that such unit is NOT doing okay. Must…improve…fast.
The problem wasn't fields
The upback missed the block both times. And it was two different people playing the position both times. As for the second block, I blame that block on the fact that our offense came out sluggish and couldn’t muster 88-9 yards and instead lost 4 yds to where the ball was on the one yard line. That gave fields 4 less yards to work with. Furthermore, I agree with everyone else that is saying this CLS crap needs to stop. I personally would rather the receivers get the dropsies now then the regular season. Our OL and DL will be fine. Most teams will not get alot of pressure on a QB who throws quickly (See D.Marino vs. the Bears 1985) and as someone said two very mobile QB’s. These games are actually great prep film for the regular season games vs. teams that have mobile QB’s. And MY final point on the matter, the team is 2-0 despite all these so-called questions. That’s the only trend I care about! JUST WIN, BABY!!!!!
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
haha
it would be funny if that is all you replied
JUST WIN, BABY!!!!!
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming the Punting team is a little tricky
in getting the right people to Block, then pursue and tackle the PR. I’m hoping it comes together by the Dallas game.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
It can be
That is why I would keep two fullbacks when most teams keep one, That second one for punt formations
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
You can use a LB or quick TE as a substitute for the 2nd FB
We actually have that in Lew Hilliard though
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Those are two other viable candidates
As well as safeties. Problem with defensive players is like in baseball, the NL having pitchers bat for themselves. They train to pitch, not bat. Likewise, LBs and safeties train to tackle, not block. That is why prefer Fullbacks, that is pretty much all they do is block, with the occasional pass catch or run(exception of Polite) who is the 3rd-4th down and 1 guy. that spot should belong to a backup fullback IMHO!
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
In punts though you can get away with since all the blocking back has to do is knock the guy off his line and its enough for the punter to get rid of it
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing, nothing worries me. It's preseason.
and there are two more games left before season opener.
I wish I had such a positive outlook
but I’ve seen some things man…
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 25, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Secondary is the biggest concern...
We have two young corners that are still learning. We now have a young safety learning on the fly. I think our youth and inexperience will show up from time to time this season. So far, we are still giving up big plays to guys that aren’t that special (although I think Williams for TB will be a good WR in the league). Friday’s game will be a big test for them. As will our linebackers covering TEs as well.
As for the dropped passes, I think everyone is overreacting. Even the best receivers drop passes occasionally. I think the issue here is we’ve become so accustomed to seeing Ginn drop easy passes that we cringe every time any receiver drops a pass. I doubt Marshall will go through the 2010 season with zero dropped passes. Hartline might be a concern, but we’ll see how he fares in Friday’s game.
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This is slightly premature...
given that we still have 2 more preseason games.
IMO, the secondary issues are not an isolated phenomenm and they reflect the difficulties we’ve with the pass rush. This is one issue that is going to be one to watch the entire regular season. With 2 young corners it is even more important to have a reliable pass rush. You don’t want to have to blitz in order to get the to QB as that opens you up to potentially giving up huge plays.
re: Marshall, I’ve no concerns about him. He’s a pro and come game time he’ll do the business and make plays. He’s never had big issues with drops and I don’t think a player of his caliber simply “forgets” how to catch passes. I see it as a temporary issue that will work itself out.
Many of you have touched on other issues, but I’d like to say that the special teams problems do worry me. Protecting the punter and having good tackling/coverage when other teams are returning punts/kicks, are fundamental issues. We’ve all seen this team have problems with ST in past years and invariably it costs you field position, momentum, and ultimately games.
There’s plenty of time to right the ship and in addition, a fair bit of it is simply guys getting their legs under them, becoming used to game time conditions, and to some extent our offensive/defensive units gelling.
this^^^
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You know what concerns me?
Nothing. Its the preseason for a reason (hey, that rhymed).
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Aug 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
What really concerns me is
I’ll be at my Girlfriends house this weekend and can’t watch the game until Sunday night. I hate Time Warner Cable. Especially now that they are about to lose ALL the ESPN channels on Sept 2 if they cannot get a new contract with Disney done
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Camarillo NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
man I will miss that guy!!!!
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yeah i know!!! Why the hell did we trade him?!?!?!?
by ricenbeans82 on Aug 25, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a guy who means more to us fans than stats could ever show.
He will be sorely missed.
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by Brooklynfinfan on Aug 25, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
huh?
"Real gangsta-a$$ ni**as don't flex nuts cause real gangsta-a$$ ni**as know they got'em"-Geto Boyz-
"I'm way too baked to drive to the devil's house."-Dante-
The official KS-22 clan leader!!! LaRon Byrd the next Phenom from the U!!!
"Feed the Wolf" -Tony Sparano - Wade County and the 3 Kings!!!
i get it now
"Real gangsta-a$$ ni**as don't flex nuts cause real gangsta-a$$ ni**as know they got'em"-Geto Boyz-
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Adios Gregorio..........
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"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Let's kick their ass and get the hell out of here!" -- General George Armstrong Custer
The secondary and special
teams concern me the most. As far as the pass rush goes I can think of numerous plays where had the coverage been good enough to just force the wide reciever to go to his #2 we would of had sacks. On the 45 yarder to Sims-Walker Misi should’ve had a sack. On the 35 yarder to Mike Thomas, Langford should’ve had a sack. This guys are creating a fairly good pass rush. The troubling thing is that we had still are giving up big plays with good pass rushes. The secondary HAS to be better than that.
Not much but,
I would like to see Wake and Misi both have really good games this Friday. I would love to see them both get a sack. The secondary is young and they’re going to have these rough patches now and again. Beside that I’m pretty happy with what I’ve seen.
Matt
I understand the trade but Im gonna miss Camarillo
12.16.07
"I'm not sure where that is. Where is Revis Island? Hopefully I visit there soon."
-Brandon Marshall
shows how confident the FO is with their WR core
and how dissatisfied they are with their secondary
Notorious slow start
Phins under this coach come out of preseason confused and sputtering. Should be a relatively easy first game against the Bills but what if it’s not? This team never dominates when it should. Then we have 3 tough games coming. This year, I’m just taking the wait and see attitude versus being overly optomistic. I’m not convinced we have a great head coach.
This^^^
One of the biggest problems last year was coaching, IMO. Sparano and his staff made a bunch of bone head calls last year and I question whether the team was ready to play some weeks. The Phins are not good enough to make up for coaching mistakes.
The Phins need a quick start to the season. They need to be at least 3-1 after 4 games. To do that they need to be ready for the start of the season. That is something they haven’t been the last 2 years.
IMO, the Phins need to be at least 7-1 or 8-0 at home to make the playoffs because their road schedule is brutal. Besides Buffalo, they don’t have what I would call an easy road game.
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Really all of these other problems could be a symptom of the bigger problem the HC
Focusing on the wrong stuff. The difference between these “battles” for these positions is really marginal. Berger vs Grove? Just pick one damn it and let’s get some cohesion on the oline and the team. If Grove struggles in the season put him on the bench enough said and done. Why put vets through this? Pick a starting line-up and stick to it. You mean after all of these OTA’s and Training Camp they don’t know who a starter is?? Come on. Focus on the fundamentals and get these guys reps together.
by dadsmithwest on Aug 25, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ST and the Secondary
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get off fasanos case
stop complaining about fasano he"s going to have a real good year. also if you have to rely on your tight end going 55 yards to score than you really have problems. fasano is solid in all phases of the game, something alot of other thight ends aren’t like shockey for instance.you want your tight end to to be solid in the middle of the field and be a possession guy not a breakaway threat.anyway now that marshall is here i look for fasano to catch at least 55 balls this year and he should be good for 700 yards and maybe 6 or 7 scores. that is if they send him out on more routes instead of keeping him into block for that useless offensive line …… fasano fan

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