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Breaking down the Dolphins remaining roster battles

Nolan Carroll has the inside track for the kick returner job after a solid showing on Saturday night.

We're now halfway through the preseason and just over two weeks away from the start of the regular season. For some players on this Dolphins' roster, it's getting late. The waiving of Kory Sperry, Tristan Davis, and Travis Ivey just emphasizes this point. There's a 53 man roster that needs to be compiled and there are many players for whom it's starting to get late very quickly.

The active roster, per MiamiDolphins.com, is at 76 players. The team has to get down to 75 by August 31 - exactly one week away - and down to 53 by September 4. With that in mind, let's take a look at how some of the key roster battles are shaping up.

Starting Center
Candidates: Jake Grove, Joe Berger

This is probably the most critical battle that's still going. Joe Berger worked with the starters for much of the past two weeks while Jake Grove battled through a bone bruise to his leg. On Saturday night, Berger worked with the starting offense for most of the first half - though Grove also saw some time with that first-teamers. Today at practice, it was Grove who was lined up with the starters during the 30 minutes of practice that was open to the media. This is a battle that Tony Sparano admits needs to be decided sooner rather than later. But it's also likely going to come down to the wire. Grove looked more physical on Saturday and that's exactly what Sparano likes. It's going to be telling when we see which of these two get the first crack at playing with the starting offense on Friday night against Atlanta.

Kick Returner
Candidates: Patrick Cobbs, Nolan Carroll

With the season-ending injury Kory Sheets and Monday's release of Tristan Davis, this battle is now a two horse race. Patrick Cobbs is a favorite of Sparano's because of the many jobs he can do. But kick returner is not his best. He's reliable and safe. But he's not an explosive play-maker. Carroll has never really worked as a primary return man in his football career. He returned ten kickoffs in college at Maryland but none since 2007. However, Carroll showed good vision and good burst on Saturday night, averaging 25 yards per kick return - including a long of 36 yards. Cobbs, meanwhile, averaged just 22.6 yards per return in '09 before suffering his season-ending injury, with a long of just 39 yards. This is likely Carroll's job to lose.

Star-divide

Defensive Line
Candidates: Tony McDaniel, Marques Douglas, Charles Grant, Lionel Dotson, Ryan Baker

Four defensive linemen are locks to make this team - defensive ends Kendall Langford and Jared Odrick as well as nose tackles Randy Starks and Paul Soliai. The question becomes how many defensive linemen the Dolphins plan to keep. It's likely they will settle on at least seven but no more than eight. That means as many as two above will not make the cut when September 4 rolls around. Of those above, McDaniel and Grant have played the best this preseason. Dotson has also flashed - but mostly against the opponents' third stringers. The coaches reportedly like Bakers versatility to play end or nose. But I've been unimpressed with the film he's put together this preseason. I'm thinking Baker is a prime candidate for the practice squad, though. Dotson could be the odd man out here.

Wide Receiver
Candidates: Patrick Turner, Marlon Moore, Roberto Wallace

The top four wide receivers are set. But the battle to be the fifth receiver is very much ongoing. Patrick Turner had his big play of the preseason back in game one, working as the slot receiver and making a catch over the middle resulting in a 34 yard gain. Marlon Moore matched him later that game, making a great adjustment to a pass from Tyler Thigpen for a 34 yard gain. Both ended with 44 yards on 2 receptions. But it was Turner who disappeared in game two on Saturday, only making one catch for seven. Moore, meanwhile, made a couple more plays and may be inching very close to taking away the roster spot many assumed would be Turner's. Wallace, meanwhile, might possess the best combination of size and speed but is raw and has been rather quiet when the bullets have been live.

Offensive Line
Candidates: Cory Procter, Lydon Murtha, Andrew Gardner, Randy Thomas

This position is probably the biggest mess right now in terms of who makes the team and who gets handed the pink slip. We know the guys who are locks - Jake Long, Vernon Carey, John Jerry, Richie Incognito, Donald Thomas, Joe Berger, and Jake Grove. That's seven right there. Nate Garner's recovery from preseason foot surgery will be a big factor here. He could be out until early October - and that's a long time to keep an injured backup on the active roster. But he's so valuable because he can play so many positions that I believe he starts the year on the roster regardless of his health rather than placing him on Injured Reserve and ending his season. That means there will be, at most, two roster spots free for the guys above. One will go to Murtha or Gardner even though neither has looked good this preseason. That's because until Garner can play, the Dolphins need a backup tackle. The other spot, if there is one, will come down to Procter or the recently signed Randy Thomas. Thomas is the experienced vet who used to be among the best in the league. But he's coming back from a nasty torn triceps injury. Procter comes over from Dallas but hasn't stood out at all this preseason.

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by Matty I on Aug 24, 2010 7:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Did Donald change his name to Randy?

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by Heater OsE on Aug 24, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

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by snook36 on Aug 24, 2010 8:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thomas is a lock isn't he?

So are Grove & Berger, Cobbs & Carroll I bet.
They’ll all be on the 53 list.

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 24, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Matty forgot about him.

I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Donald makes this team

Murtha and Gardner are fighting for a spot until Garner comes back healthy.. Jerry needs to see some time at RT. He played tackle in college and is our best option if Carey goes down. We’re screwed if Long gets hurt

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I was simply stating when Matty listed the lineman who were locks, he forgot Donald Thomas.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I know I was just replyng to you in general

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sure things

LT-Long/Murtha
LG- Ingog’s/ D. Thomas
C-Berger/Grove
RG-Jerry/ R.Thomas
RT-Carey/Garner

 Murtha gets cut when Garner gets healthy leaving us with 9 on the year

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm willing to bet R. Thomas gets cut on the final cutdowns.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see us carrying 10 linemen, very few teams do.

11 is ridiculous. I’d hedge my bets on 9, with at least one on the PS.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We carried 10 the year before last,

and the way it looks at the T position we might have to keep 2 to cover for Garner, thats 10, and maybe R Thomas until Garner gets back because he’s a back up G as well because with Berger starting D Thomas becomes the only back up G.

10 isn’t all that rare and 11 isn’t out of the question because of our situation, but someone like Hilliard will have to lose job over it.

by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fairly positive that we'll keep 10

Above all, everything hinges on protecting Henne and smashing the ball forward.

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 24, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm only seeing 9 two years ago.

Andy Alleman
Vernon Carey
Brandon Frye
Al Johnson
Jake Long
Evan Mathis
Ikechuku Ndukwe
Samson Satele
Justin Smiley
Donald Thomas

Yes, I know that’s 10. But Donald Thomas was placed on IR after the first game. So that only makes 9.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 25, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Long goes down

Carey will move back to the left side and Garner(when healthy of course) would play RT, and we could survive, but Garner is the key, the others are projects and shouldn’t be seeing any real time in the NFL yet.

by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

You are smart.

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by Alpha6 on Aug 25, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

oversight by me

thats what i get for writing this very late yesterday

by Matty I on Aug 24, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man the 49er's flatted Farve, for what he did to them last year. Lol i wood not mind seeing (Mike) unleash a wolve or two duing this game as it was the falcon's, that took us out in that very first game!

Revenge is not what’s called for in this case, but i do belive that the NFC has very much disrespected us. I do belive it was Atlanta that we need to put the fear back into & our defense wood be nice. Even ruffing up the qb, wood be a sweet start-stop to the laughing that they put on us. Plus they still think that they got the beter of us that draft.
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 24, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd!

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by Alpha6 on Aug 25, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kim Bokamper said

When he asked the Dolphins coaching staff about Marlon Moore, they said silky smooth…

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

smh

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

is there something wrong

With your head?

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mine,no.

You on the other hand……..

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't be so sure if i were you

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

they said silky smooth…

I definitely saw that last game. He catches the ball and doesn’t lose any speed doing so. He’s tempered my aspirations for Roberto Wallace. Moore can play

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell yea

I actually though that was a great description. We better keep him because if we don’t someone else will

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there something wrong with your's? that is your trademark

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 24, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naw but he used it improperly though

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

how are you supposed to use it, as your are the only one i've seen

do it

I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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by PotM on Aug 24, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theres no special way to use it, he just did it out of nowhere

and it had nothing to do with the comment thats why i asked if somethin was wrong with him

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I used it correctly, you just got lost in the translation.

I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 25, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think your lost period

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by Deuce Black on Aug 25, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the problem.....you thought.

You should really stop doing that. It’s not working out too well for you.

I used to think I had a drinking problem.
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by luvs2drnk on Aug 25, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting Center
Candidates: Jake Grove, Joe Berger

How likely is it, that Sparano would rotate these guys in out throughout games ( depending on the defensive looks ) and the season to keep them healthy? Assuming both have good chemistry with Henne.

Kinda of like the R&R express.

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by Weecho85 on Aug 24, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

That's zactly how I feel, Weech.

It’s a long season.

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 24, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Grove>Berger. But with Groves health issues rest wont be a bad idea.

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by 54 on Aug 24, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's why Berger's getting so much work

Start Grove against 3-4 teams and Berger against 4-3 (or at least aim for that around injuries, etc.)

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by Red Dog on Aug 24, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That may not be a bad idea

there is no question that Berger can play but he did get worked by the big NT’s. Grove can hold his own

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

so depending on the match up NT is who should start

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by Weecho85 on Aug 24, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grove

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roster...

at WR – I like MOORE over Turner by a long shot.. turner has had 2 years now and done almost nothing – Moore looks faster to me and we need that.
I still want GROVE to be the starter because he is stronger at the point of attack vs big NT’s like WILFORK… He just looks better than Berger to me. Now – I would also keep Berger no doubt…. WHY did we cut SPERRY at TE – only to keep NALBONE ? that’s bogus… the “bone” looks terrible to me and at least K. sperry flashed a few times even catching a TD in his limited opportunities… Look like the “draft pick” of TUNA’s getting the benefit… just like that loser TURNER and P. WHITE both should go…
At Guard – what about Donald thomas – Matty forgot about him… I’d keep him over the other 2 guards for sure… RANDY THOMAS was a great player…too bad we can’t keep him too.

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by 62Lou on Aug 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Wallace is Turner's biggest competition...

Only way I see Moore making the sqaud is if he can beat out Camarillo. I see Wallace as a perfect wide out for the practice squad so he can pick up some experience like Turner picked up during the season last year. I like what Moore has done but I don’t think he makes the roster over Turner. With the reserve cornerbacks we have making plays on special teams I could very honestly say the Dolphins may only bring 4 WR’s to games like they did most of last year.

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by Heater OsE on Aug 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes the Dolphins will only keep 4 WR's active on gameday

Its those damn 2 te’s sets we love so much. We keep all 3 te’s active in favor of a 5th WR. Just an outdated offense imo

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to say it's outdated.

Steelers won the Super Bowl two years ago with that very offense.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ricky Ronnie Cobbs Martin and even Fasano

can be put in as WRs to round out a 5 wide set so they really don’t need to carry that 5th WR in a pinch.

by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moore has outperformed Wallace on game days....

Its likely he has the edge

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by Fr8Train on Aug 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has he outperformed Turner is the question?

I agree Moore isnt competing with Wallace anymore. Moore is the better player right now

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leave it to Mr.Conspiracy to blame BP

rather than blaming Sperry for TOTALLY whiffing a block that caused Cobbs to get stuffed for a loss.

You either at least try to slow your man up or pack your bags….flashing doesn’t impress this FO Lou but blocking and catching consistently does.

by haildanhenningnow on Aug 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say Nalbone has done it either.

But he must have shown something to the FO to keep him around, just not sure what that was.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nalbone is getting cut people (eventually)

TE- Fasano/Martin/Haynos

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing PS.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes been cut before

So chances are he’ll be cut again

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hmm maybe he showed them

A 5th round draft pick they invested in

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by Deuce Black on Aug 24, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Turner has only had one year......

And even Sparano has said he failed to give Turner a chance during the regular season.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turner didnt earn the "chance"

We were fighting for a playoff spot. It would have been reckless to just throw out a WR and hope for the best.

Although that’s what we did with Ted Ginn………

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't have killed our playoff chances

to give the guy a couple offensive series during the year. Especially in some red zone situations.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way you can know if it would or wouldn't have

It would turn into various “what if” scenarios. What if Turner pulled a Ginn and didnt catch it clean and allow a defensive player to pick off and run in for a TD. What if he replaced Camarillo and dropped the ball on that great 3rd down conversion versus the Jets on MNF. The main point I’m trying to make is Turner didnt earn his opportunities. This team doesnt just give away playing time like some others

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just explained...

That Sparano himself said he failed by not giving Turner a chance during the season, which to me means he earned the chance. Sparano just never gave it to him. And I’m sorry, but a couple plays a game in 3/4 WR sets and red zone situations for about 3 games in the beginning of the season wouldn’t have killed our season or playoff hopes.

As for your “what if” scenarios, the same could be said in a positive way as well. What if he had been put into red zone situations and caught TDs when we settled for FGs. Maybe we would have gone to the playoffs. The bottom line is we missed the playoffs. Playing Turner couldn’t have hurt us anymore than not playing him did for us.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turner

2 years? He’s just entering his second…

by Finhead83 on Aug 24, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Our 2 TE set is deadly. Although it might not seem like it we scored twice off that formation last game it’s hard to match up with 2 TE and the way the dolphins run the ball out of the formation is also deadly

by Goon305Boy10 on Aug 24, 2010 1:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Deadly?

Fasano and Martin arent scarring anybody. That set wasnt effective for us last year. Mainly due to the fact we were relying on the likes of Joey Haynos. The signing of David Martin may pay dividends once again for us in this formation.

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We didn't have Marshall last year.

That will make it more difficult for defenses to bring up the safeties in run support and help in covering TEs. It also didn’t help that Martin was injured as well. He’s a much better receiving threat than Haynos.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a much better receiving threat and blocker than Haynos

The latter is what will let Fasano break out in the passing game

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually.....

It will be Henne’s improved vision that will help Fasano be the player he was in 2008. Now that Henne is more comfortable in the offense and has improved his route progression timing, the TEs don’t have to stay in as long blocking. So they can get out in their routes more quickly exploiting LBs out of position.

As for blocking, you don’t stay on a Bill Parcells team if you can’t block as a TE. Which may be the reason Sperry is gone.

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by luvs2drnk on Aug 24, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sparano would not throw one of his players under the bus like that

If you look at it objectively what changed with our 2 TE’s sets when it was working 2 years ago and why it didn’t last year. The answer is David Martin got injured

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evidently you didn't hear it because he

said “I tried to tell you guys last year” when talking to the guy with the dreads and the other writers and it had nothing to do with Martin OR not throwing a player under the bus.

The writers were basically saying what you are and he CLEARLY called them out on their tomfoolery because after two years of trying to explain it yet again he simply had had enough.

by haildanhenningnow on Aug 24, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Positive - D Line

more depth there than we could possbly have imagined after the Merlin injury especially at DE. I like what the veterans Grant and Douglas bring there.

i am concerned about OL Depth at T – they look solid at G – C.

I have to say my biggest concern right now is the secondary. I like V. Davis and S. Smith – but I would feel a lot better if Will Allen was healthy. i think this will improve once Nolan opens up the defense in the regular season too.

When is Will Allen expected back?

by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Marlon Moore has the advantage, can catch and run...

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by Kdog92 on Aug 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

If we keep Turner than we need to keep 6 WR's

We are gonna need big play threat outside Marshall

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 24, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Heater OsE on Aug 24, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would keeping 6 WRs solve that?

Sorry, but Marlon Moore hasn’t shown he is capable of being a #2 WR yet.

by Finhead83 on Aug 24, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ted ginn

Someone told me that Ted Ginn dropped a perfectly thrown pass against the vikes the other night! I couldn’t have been happier to hear that as confirmation as to why he is gone from Miami…did anyone see it?

by NC Livin! MIA Born and Bred! on Aug 24, 2010 5:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I did

Nothing special though, typical Ginn. He was out pretty deep, jumped up and had the ball hit him dead in the hands and bounce right off. Just about any other receiver would have made the catch.

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by Phinatics on Aug 24, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He dropped two and, although not perfect passes, they were very catchable.

He did, however catch a deep strike from Nate Davis for 60+ yards (and promptly ran out of bounds).

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by kdock on Aug 24, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure how you don't have

camarillo on the WR list… there is no way he is a lock to make this team… he hasn’t recovered from his injury (in that he is still very slow, and slow on his cuts also) couple that with an injury in camp… and then add on having wallace who you likely wont be able to sneak through waivers to stash on the practice squad… my guess is wallace is on the team

and the last spot comes down to turner, moore (less of a freak of DNA), and cammy, although i would consider that they would cut haynos to carry an extra receiver and see if they can stash nalbone back on the PS in case of an emergency.

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by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 24, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 24, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

kind of - one of those as time permits

but i have to say my interest level is getting closer to frothing at the mouth… i’m ready for the IOU’s…. and can’t wait for the next 2.5 weeks

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by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 24, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace?

At this point, I’m thinking Moore is close to being cut and is behind both Turner and Moore. The blocked punt against the Bucs was due to Wallace whiffing on a block, something I’m sure ticked off the coaching staff and lessened his special teams value.

by Finhead83 on Aug 25, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh?
Moore is close to being cut and is behind both Turner and Moore.

Which one is supposed to be Wallace? I like Moore and hope he beats out Turner for the 5 spot.

       As for Wallace I think we can hide Wallace on the practice squad. Being so athletic and having a history of playing soccer is a huge + for a WR.
      The endurance, athleticism, and toughness to play soccer is tremendous. Transfer that to WR and hopefully you get a player that can knock a corner or safety on their a$$ or trip them up because of his quick feet.

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by Weecho85 on Aug 25, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

moore might be doing better in games right now

but wallace is running different routes right now (mostly clearing out routes for moore)

but there is no way they will sneak wallace onto the practice squad, where as they will get moore there…

so i expect wallace to make the roster … and then they might cut him week 2 or 3 when they have a chance to sneak him through waivers.

The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I meant Wallace is close to being cut.

by Finhead83 on Aug 26, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moore and Turner

Both Moore AND Turner are better receivers then Cam!!!

by Peutz on Aug 25, 2010 5:54 AM EDT reply actions  

whoa I wouldnt go that far buddy

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by Weecho85 on Aug 25, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah....

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by Patssuck456 on Aug 25, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

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by Weecho85 on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rofl...

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by Alpha6 on Aug 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Thats great!

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by texascowpunk on Aug 25, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WR position a tussle

I hope to see the players fighting for the 5 spot, placed with the starting line-up. Then grade em.

by IAphinlifer on Aug 25, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

good point here...

I’d like to see what Turner, Moore, Wallace, and even Pruitt look like with Henne throwing them the ball behind our first string offensive line. Its hard to judge what they can do when Thigpen can’t throw them the ball behind a porous second string line.

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by The Earl on Aug 25, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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