Highlights and lowlights from Dolphins preseason win over Jaguars
After last week's preseason opener, some Dolphin fans were ready to push the "panic button" thanks to a disappointing - to say the least - performance out of Miami's starting offense. But a week later, feelings have changed dramatically. All this is, of course, is proof that we should really just remain as even-keeled as possible throughout the entire preseason and wait until the games count before making any assumptions about this team.
With that said, let's take a look back at Saturday night's preseason win over the Jaguars - a game that was delayed nearly two hours thanks to lightning.
HIGHLIGHTS
-Quarterback Chad Henne, in my opinion, was the story of the night for the Dolphins. After an ugly first possession, Henne led the Dolphins on three consecutive scoring drives - a field goal and two touchdowns. By the time Henne came out, he completed 11 of 14 passes for 151 yards and two touchdowns - helping the starting offense gain 179 yards and average 8.1 yards per play. And his 151.2 passer rating would have been even better if Brandon Marshall and Brian Hartline didn't each drop a pass. The play of the night involving Henne was the 55 yard pass play to Anthony Fasano, who lumbered into the endzone. Though that was a good throw, rolling out and accurately hitting Fasano, I was more impressed with his other throws. Henne showed excellent decision making. He was accurately reading the defense and knew exactly where to go with the ball. My favorite throw of the night from Henne? It was his second touchdown pass to Fasano. Anthony is covered well on that play. But Henne saw the man covering Fasano running with his back to the ball. So Chad simply throw it behind Fasano and the linebacker in coverage - but with enough zip on it to get it to Anthony before the safety could get there. Fasano made the adjustment to the ball for the touchdown grab. Excellent bounce back game ffrom the resilient Chad Henne.
-Wide receiver Brandon Marshall also bounced back after a disappointing preseason opener. Though he again dropped a ball he should have caught, Brandon made up for it by catching four other passes for 65 yards in one half of action. His best catch was the jump-ball Chad Pennington lobbed up to him late in the second quarter. But his play of the day was his outstanding block, taking out two defenders, that allowed Fasano to rumble the final yards into the endzone. Marshall also made a key block on Ronnie Brown's touchdown reception late in the second quarter. This is why the Dolphins went out and got Marshall. He's a tremendous pass-catcher (and please, let's forget about the drops because his hands will not be a problem), he's physical and will throw blocks, and will attrct defenders - opening up the middle of the field for his teammates (like Fasano, for example).
-Wide receiver Davone Bess seems to impress me every time he steps on the field. He just has a knack for getting open and he possesses some outstanding hands. He's another guy who will benefit from the Marshall addition. Defenses are going to have a hard time containing both Bess and Marshall on critical third downs.
-I thought that the starting offensive line did a good job of protecting Chad Henne. After that rough first series, Henne was well protected the rest of the night. They also did a good job opening up some running lanes. I do find it interesting that most of Miami's runs in the first half went right up the middle behind center Joe Berger - perhaps testing Berger's ability to create a push up front. I think he met the challenge. I also think that Richie Incognito and John Jerry played well enough to lock up their starting jobs at left and right guard respectively.
-The first-team defense did an excellent job bottling up Maurice Jones-Drew and Jacksonville's ground game. MJD finished with -2 yards on 4 carries. As a unit, the starting defense allowed just 6 yards on 8 carries. Vontae Davis was one of the many who did an excellent job in run support. Yeremiah Bel - as always - was around the ball carrier. Tim Dobbins also did a nice job starting in place of Channing Crowder.
-Cornerback Jason Allen showed why he is going to make this team, causing that fumble on the free kick following Jacksonville's safety. Allen is a very good special teams player. Is he overpaid? Of course. Is he a draft bust? No question. But he still has a role on this team for at least one more year.
-I really like the depth that Miami's defensive line has. Randy Starks played very well against both the run and the pass. Jared Odrick took on double teams a lot - which tells us what other teams think of Odrick, who showed he's up to the challenge. Paul Soliai didn't make the plays he made last week - but was a stout force when he was in there. Charles Grant also played well, showing that he still has enough gas in the tank. He was able to make a couple of plays in Jacksonville's backfield on Saturday night.
-Quarterback Chad Pennington looked like his old self, playing in his first game since his third shoulder surgery. His throws "floated" like they usually do - but were accurate and, in the case of the lob to B-Marsh, gave his receivers a play on the ball. He'll be the number two quarterback - count on it.
-Quarterback Tyler Thigpen looked good as well, playing the entire second half. He didn't lead a touchdown drive at all. But he stood in behind a struggling second-team offensive line, took a beating, but completed 8 of 12 passes for 76 yards - including a crucial 3rd & 5 that sealed the win. By Thigpen playing the entire second half, you have to imagine Pat White's time in Miami is coming to an end in a hurry.
LOWLIGHTS
-The secondary again allowed big pass plays. Now I know that Mike Nolan isn't showing anything this preseason. I don't think the Dolphins have ever rushed more than four all preseason long - and we are yet to see the exotic blitzes we've heard all about during camp. But Nolan does need to trust his corners with man-to-man coverage when he does blitz. And right now, Sean Smith and Vontae Davis have been inconsistent in both games. Mike Sims-Walker consistently beat Smith and Davis for big catches. David Garrrard methodically sliced up this secondary before leaving with an injury - going 6/8 for 79 yards and a touchdown. This preseason, the Dolphins have let the two opposing starting quarterbacks connect on 10 of 12 passes for 132 yards and two touchdowns. And we're just talking about Garrard and Josh Freeman. They need to get these issues cleared up before facing the likes of Brett Favre, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers (just to name a few).
-Rookie corner Nolan Carroll was picked on a bit on Saturday night. Though he wasn't all bad by any means, the Dolphins are putting a lot of responsibilities on the rookie - at least until Will Allen comes back. Nolan still has two weeks to get acclimated to playing the slot and improve, though. Carroll also might have cemented himself as the primary kick returner - so that's a good thing. But it's just another thing the rookie has to focus on when he has a lot on his plate already.
-The second team offensive line was brutal. The Dolphins will be in serious trouble if either of their starting tackles suffered any kind of injury this year. Lydon Murtha and Andrew Gardner are not ready to step in if they had to.
-Way too many penalties are being committed. After committing six last week, the Dolphins totaled eight on Saturday, resulting in 68 yards lost. This is uncharacteristic for this team and will not be accepted once the games start counting.
-Chris Clemons did a bad job when he essentially whiffed on Rashad Jennings and allowed Jennings to block Brandon Fields' first punt of the game. That's the second week in a row somebody has let a defender in to block a punt. Yes, Fields needs to get the kick away a little faster. But that's still no excuse for either of these two blocked punts.
-Both kick and punt coverage units really struggled on Saturday. The Dolphins allowed kick returns of 41 and 48 yards and a punt return of 25 yards. Now we know that part of the reason for these struggles is because of the mixing and matching the coaching staff is doing on these units right now. Still, until we see improvement, I'm concerned.
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Chris Clemons
IdC how good he is… OUR STARTING SAFETY should not be on special teams IMO… I agree with the highs and the lows, although they were switching kick off coverage the whole game. Also, penalties for ALL TEAMS will go up now that officials are now behind them.
I disagree
Clemons has the speed, youth and tackling to really help on ST’s. The problem is putting him in the position to make such a critical block. The guy is what 190 lbs.? I’m not certain but JAX had a punt block on so it forced Clemons in when he’s usually a gunner.A LB would be better suited for that role in the future
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
nice read
my observations:
POSITIVE:
*starks / run defense
no longer a concern to me
*offense
- henne accuracy, poise, touch
*ronnie / ricky - bess
i’m not feeling Hartline and think the Marshall/Bess combo would give the opponents a harder time to defende. Bess might not have the speed of Hartline, but he seems to get open much faster and with ease - ILB depth / Dobbins
last few times in Crowders absence opponents ran all over us for about 2 miles/game
Dobbins did a solid job.
NEGATIVE:
- Pass Defense / Coverage
- Opp. QB ratings / completion percentage
- Special Teams
little concern
- OLB pressure on QB
- Pennington taking Shots, Henne not
I’m not sure how much is to blame on Henne and how much on Henning
but i really think we have to even stretch more the field and look for these 20-30 yd
completions. OL should now come together and be able to protect that lextra time - Dansby, does a solid job so far but hasnt flashed yet
- Speed on Offense (WR, RB, TE)
a player like Vernon Davis at TE and Miles Austin type of WR opposite Marshall wouldnt hurt – the overall speed on Offense seems to be average at best. I can live with the RBs (even if I really had liked to have Sheets as a change of pace guy). TE, i understand the blocking duties, but to really hurt a cover 2 defense, you need that TE who can go deep between the safeties, WR, Marshall is set, Bess is a beast in the slot, Hartline, Camarillo have good hands, get the job done but neither fears you deep.
really hope the last game will be played in dry and good conditions
as its difficult and different to evaluate players in wet conditions (specially OLB / CB)
oh good you mention Clemons
…still not sold on him = little concern
not sold on clemens either
completely sold on starks I was happy to see him get a sack from his new nt position ,defensively that means alot
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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 23, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
max starks
me too…i think our DLine will def. be a strengh this year. MJD had nowhere to run.
and the way he shot that gap LOL garrards face was funny…he was shocked that that big dude is already in his face.
watched the browns game and thought…maaan too bad Roth is/was such an idiot….
Wake + Roth and that DLine would have been unstoppable
Max Starks is a Steeler, lol
an offensive lineman, Randy is our Starks, lol.
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by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
lmao...
Good catch!
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I am also worried about downfield shots
It really is too bad Ginn had such bad hands. If he was just a bit better at catching he would have really helped stretching the field and providing Henne a target downfield. Some of it seems to be on Henne as well. That is an area of improvement for him I think.
How fast is Hartline actually, because I keep hearing contrasting things.
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Hartline got decent speed 4.52) – but on the field he doesnt look fast to me
I know he makes plays but I just dont see the upside.
Same with Camarillo….very good player but no upside.
I would love us to get a Mike Williams type of WR next to Marshall….who got good hands, is tuff enough to catch balls between the numbers and with blazing speed who will force the opponents to play both safeties deep.
Imagine how our Run Game would look like then…
ps: that Pat White pick could have been Miles Austin…. just sayin… :P
by Crowder 911 on Aug 23, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
i believe Miles Austin was a rookie the year before...
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Austin was an UDFA for the Cowboys in 2006.
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by texascowpunk on Aug 23, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Marlon Moore has the ability to become the teams next surprise....
The guy looks like he should get a couple snaps with the first teamers, just to see how he fairs against a first team defense. He just seems like he’s able to locate the ball well and make a play, as well as gain yards after the catch.
I think Hartline will be fine but he just needs to get a couple catches under him.
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Aug 23, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
this^
It was against the 2nd team defense but more looked fast and decisive once he caught the ball. Why isnt he on punt returns. BESS IS NOT THE ANSWER!
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what was the question again?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 23, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Fixed
Why isnt he on punt returns?
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
who? moore or hartline
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 23, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Moore
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya dude miles Austin has been in the league like 4 or 5 years.
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Yeah this will be his 5th season.
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by texascowpunk on Aug 23, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to be picky
But Mike Williams’ biggest knock in the draft, outside his “character issues”, was his lack of speed. But I get what you’re saying, I really wanted to draft Mike Williams. Hartline should be fine in the #2 role though.
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 23, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I like a little tartar on my fish sticks... lol
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BUT IM PUMPED!!!!!GO FINNNSSSS!!! And awesome job matty
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I think the biggest lowlight was having to wait for the game to start
Seriously though, great job by the first teamers and it was beyond great to see Marshall show us his blocking ability and his ability to go up and get a pass. Henne was good and had very few holes in his game. He didn’t look away from Marshall on the 3rd down before our field goal and it was no surprise that 1 of the 4 Jaguars who knew Henne was going to Marshall borke up the pass. I call the play before the linemen even got set in their stance, but still believed if Henne eyes down a different target, Marshall gets the room to make the catch. Still, next time Henne will elevate that pass and the Beast will bring it down. Very impressed with the usage of Fasano (been waiting for years to see us utilize a TE like that).
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i was actually glad…. I’m from Switzerland (6 hours in front) and i felt a sleep. as I woke up i thought maaan you missed the game but it just got started :)
i do agree he stared him down, but...
that wasn’t the problem on that play. i noticed as the play happened and even more on the replay, Henne waited too long to throw. he should’ve thrown as BM was making his cut, at which point he had room and the DB even stumbled a bit trying to cut with BM. Henne hesitated and allowed the help to come over. thats a timing route. he has to know to let go of that right as BM makes the cut so the ball is there right in that window when he’s open for the catch
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Nice! As I don't get to see many of these...
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Time to look for impact players
Still think we need speed receiver,playmaking OLB, and a mean and punishing FS. I agree with 911 on Roth, his presence would of been a plus. Hartline has steadily disappointed, so other than BM and Bess, I think our other wide out should be open for competition.
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Hartline has disappointed?
Are you referring to this preseason or his career thus far? He’s kinda disappointed in the preseason, I’ll agree with that, but most WR’s don’t make any kind of impact at all until at least 3 years in the league.
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If he is our #2 WR then he needs to start showing up now
not 2 years from now
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope he shows up two years from now also
it would suck if he only played good this year
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to draft a WR this year anyway
Hartline does have much more upside imo
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
More show's that much promise, over take our ohio kick u in the teeth # 2?
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I would argue he's already shown up
He led the team last year in touchdowns, yards per catch, and longest reception. He’s already producing, and he has the build and skillset of an ideal #2 who will only get better.
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he did all that by not starting every game either
I am upset about Hartline’s drops in preseason, but I don’t think we’ve seen everything the Dolphins have. From what I saw at TC they haven’t done a lot of their defensive OR offensive schemes. I think we see a lot of big plays from him if he can beat his man and outrun a safety for half the field. he just needs to catch the ball, which he usually does.
Looking at the numbers
I am impressed by a lot of things. I won’t get to actually see the game until tomorrow morning when NFL Network does their replay of it.
Same here
but man, am I looking forward to it.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't home to watch it :(
Another fantasy draft.. make that four down, two to go
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Aug 23, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Game 1=Solid D, Game 2 =Solid O, Here on out =Total package!!!!!!!!
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!
I'm willing to accept some of these mistakes with the mismatching of the team in the
three fases of the game knowing that this team is still a work in progress. Technically next year is suppossed to be “The” year with this year being to path to the great things to come. I see this years team making progress throughout the year and hopefully a play-off spot. Nice to see the Offense clicking some out there….
I haven't watched it yet so thanks for the breakdown and thoughts Matty
I did watch the Wash. vs Balt. game this morning and sure wish we had a developmental league after watching Anthony Armstrong and Jalen Parmalee do so well.
by haildanhenningnow on Aug 23, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
I agree with your view of Parmalee
I watched the replay on NFL Net and wish we still had that guy.
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!
I believe Balt. sniped him from our PS
after his rookie year. Not much we could have done to prevent that
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Parmalee was snatched and Hilliard stayed.
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!
* I mean yes, not no...Too much Appleton!
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!
heh heh heh
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Im not concerned at all
Nolan isn’t showing nothing. our DB’s have been playing on wet fields, so not alot of good traction. when the games count i know we are going to see a Dominant D. on our 2nd drive at the goal line henne did wait to long to throw the ball. he has a cannon so he will get it in there but he has to work wit BM on the timing which WONT be an issue come regular season.
Nolan isn’t showing nothing.
… he is showing.. something?
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Ohhh, the double negative policy.
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no, I think they have a few timed routes for certain yardage already.
quick little hooks they have timed well. They did it once in the game on 3rd down. But that was Henne’s one bad throw, way too late. If Marsh can learn Cutler and Orton, he can do it for Chad.
Clemons and the rest of the secondary....
will all look like superstars if the QB is on his butt. If our front seven can bring the heat, we may not have to worry about much else.
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Great read
I completely agree, I can’t wait to be able to see the game clearly tonight. I had reception problems all weekend.
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i know you want that very badly bud, but it’s not happening. Pat White should be playing in canada
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Depends on the way you think of it...
I think Miami is playing Tyler a lot in order to see if he can take Pennington’s spot (which after the last 2 games I don’t think he can.) I think they are also playing him a lot in order to build trade value, which I think he is not really helping himself there either. Pat White was brought in for an specific reason, unless the Dolphins totally scrap months of planning different wildcat formations then yes your assumptions of Pat White being gone are right. All will be told in the next few weeks.
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I'd like to see what Pennington would have done with that reserve line the other night
that would have been funny
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 23, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
here's the thing Penne handles pressure well and
knows when to make checkdown plays
I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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White has never been part of the WC package,
he had his own package, and he proved that he couldn’t even run an offensive package that was designed for him, it was only a handful of plays specifically designed for him and he still couldn’t do anything with them, the player they really wanted was Dennis Dixon, they thought PW was going to be like him, he isn’t.
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by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
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by texascowpunk on Aug 24, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said.
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Yeah pat white would have been good if....
1.He could pick up the offense quicker and able to read the defense better 2.He could actually take a hit. 3.put on even more muscle. 4.Or if he could have been the player the franchise thought him to be like dennis dixon, but he’s not so bye bye pw don’t let ike hit you on the way out
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by Mr.Phintastic on Aug 23, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't take a hit???
You could’ve put a 300 lb lineman in that situation and he would’ve been knocked out. Helmet to helmet hits are brutal dude.
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by Heater OsE on Aug 23, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and the faster you are going, the harder the hit
I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful.
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is there anyway to keep 4 QB's
if we put one on some list, or have them somehow in case something happens. I do think PWhite is a lil too small and maybe not the QB Henne is if 3 games into this season we start PW (for some reason) But I think for some plays and maybe in a year or two he could be running the WC instead of Ronnie Brown( injury or what. ) When he and Ricky are gone who is gonna run it. Does it go away?
Then why wasn't taylor knocked out?
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by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm, the equal force conundrum...
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LOL, holy cow,
another Dixon reference, I wish we had him.
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by uncle finster on Aug 24, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Preseason high & low article
Article seemed right on tar
What's up with Ike Alma Francis?
Is he going to stick at #2 SOLB behind Misi? I think LB position should be much improved but haven’t really heard much about them. How does Dansby look? Has to be better than the bum we had last season. Any and all insight would be much appreciated. I haven’t had the chance to watch either of the games.
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Great points,
the (low lights/things we have to fix), like the back ups on O line, penalties, and coverage units are critical to our success, Garner is the key to our back up lineman, we need everyone to hold together until he comes back.
Penalties, we may see more of these this year due to all the youth on this team, but I do think they will hold it all together, at least enough so the penalties don’t kill us.
Coverage, I was hoping this would stay solid, we kind of struggled a bit the year before but were much better last year, I hope we get that straightened out but the same problem with the penalties can hurt you here too, youth, overaggressive play from young players, lets hope they keep a nice lid on it.
Also, on the JA issue, I think IMHO that if a guy forces you to keep him on your team due to his play, by definition he isn’t a “bust”, I do know what your saying, he isn’t a starting defensive player, I get that, but busts don’t make your team based on their play, just sayin.
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