Players to Watch: Training Camp Edition
With training camp at last getting underway I have been reviewing position battles and depth charts and wanted to post my thoughts but various posters have already gone over our depth chart, roster cuts to come, bubble players, etc. etc. I thought I would do something slightly different and list my top 5 players of interest going into camp. This is based on several factors including, likelihood to make the 53 man roster, overall ability, chance of impact (likelihood of playing during season), and desire to see player succeed. I’m excluding anyone that is a given lock at their position since I am more interested in how they perform when they have something to prove. The list after the jump.
1. Ryan Grice-Mullen (WR, KR/PR) – Without question the most interesting player for me personally because (1) we need a new KR and could stand to upgrade at PR but don’t want to burn a roster spot on a guy who will play on only returns. (2) If RGM can establish himself as a #5 WR he could be retained for the return duties as well as add a new wrinkle in our passing game. Right now we have short possession guys and Brandon Marshall. Two of those guys will catch anything that gets near them and the other two are pretty sure handed as well but none of them really stretches the field vertically. RGM has the talent to actually replace Ted Ginn at this facet of the game (and will assuredly catch more balls than Ginn even with only 1/10th the number of snaps) since he has all the speed Ginn had and none of the Chicken Little that Ginn has in spades. For consideration the two men’s dash times; Ginn: 1.47 (10 yd), 2.48 (20 yd), and 4.38 (40 yd) vs. RGM: 1.45 (10 yd), 2.49 (20 yd), and 4.36 (40 yd). Flat speed isn’t everything but it is important and if Ted Ginn could bomb Revis Island one has to assume so can RGM. (3) If RGM is keeping FSs honest, it will open up the opportunities a little bit more by taking some of the spotlight off of Marshall. (4) Who wouldn’t love the many “Fear the Dread-Heads!” signs at home games for RGM and Bess. Granted, its unlikely RGM will be used in this fashion but one completion on a bomb in week one will have teams thinking about it through at least week 4. Also I can't forget Colt Brennan saying about RGM: "He'll take a quick, flat route and turn it upfield and take it to the house. He has unbelievable speed. His jukes are awesome. He catches balls in ways nobody's ever really thought of catching them." I would love to see them try RGM out and see if he can still be a YAC machine but I will be satisfied if he can average 20+ on KRs and 10+ on PRs.
2. Cameron Wake (OLB) – Every Dolfan is holding out hope that the EarthqWake will make J “Pissy Pants” Porter look like a rookie washout this season with double digit sacks and a more complete game. This will start in Camp. If Wake doesn’t elevate his game it will lead to more of the same that we saw last season except now he won’t have JT and Porter in front of him forcing us to turn to Charlie Anderson. My biggest complaint all offseason was letting JT go without a viable replacement in place when he could have been retained so easily. Bear in mind I consider Wake to be Porter’s replacement but if Misi fails to perform out of the gate we are gonna be in trouble but if Wake fails to perform we are screwed! Wake has the tenacity and ability to give QBs fits but if he can’t stop RB he is gonna be a liability and our only safety valves at OLB are a rookie 4-3 DE turned 3-4 OLB and a backup that has little ‘Wow’ factor. Wake is going to be a huge factor in both our pass rush and the development of Koa Misi since Misi may be forced to play when unprepared and the perpetual exploitation could forever shatter his confidence (Remember John Beck?) which could ruin him. If Wake elevates his game to every down starter, even John Clayton will be talking about Miami’s pass rush as something to be feared.
3. Jonathan Amaya (FS) – We all know this defense this year will live and die by the 4 guys in the secondary. Many have asked where the pass rush will come from but bear in mind that Tom Brady needs less than 1 full second to spot Moss separating from his CB and less than 3 seconds to deliver the pass. Except for an all out blitz, Brady will have the two seconds to throw the ball. What will be key is insuring he needs more than the 1 second to figure out where to throw it. In short, if a WR is gaining quick separation it won’t matter who is applying the pressure so it will fall to our safeties to provide cover when Sean or Vontae lose their man (It will happen sooner or later) and right now we have no one sold on our FS's. Amaya appears to have a lead step over Reshad Jones coming out of OTAs and is thought of highly. If Amaya can be as good as we hope he may be ready to step in should Clemons falter. If not, he may still establish himself as the future at SS. Either way Amaya has EVERYTHING to gain and nothing to lose and that tends to make a player very exciting to watch in camp and the preseason.
4. Jared Odrick (RDE) – This may be farther down other fans list of priorities but I think about teams running on an unbalanced line which will put Odrick and Misi on the same side. The Jets are gonna run off tackle and probably some sweeps against us to use their speed to take advantage of our weakened flanks. With no JT and no JP on the outside, the margin for error of our DE’s goes down. Factor in one rookie unused to the 3-4 DE position and a rookie OLB and an OLB presently weak at run stoppage, we could see havoc if Odrick gets manhandled in the trenches. Odrick was known to be vulnerable against big run-blocking linemen while at Penn State and that cannot be allowed at this level without great run-stuffing talent at linebacker. We have the talent at ILB with Dansby and Crowder but our OLB run-stuffing is suspect at best. If Odrick can’t penetrate, it will fall entirely on the OLB behind him and the CB to shut down the run for no gain and we face to many good RBs to expect our guys to make the play that often. Odrick is also needed to replace some of the production of Randy Starks from last year and that is a daunting task for anyone not named Randy Starks let alone a rookie used to playing as a 4-3 DT. Can Odrick truly adapt to the 5 technique? This will be a big thing for me to look at as we progress towards the season.
5. John Jerry (OG) – The thought of this beast holding down Henne’s blind side along with Jake Long gives me goose bumps. Remember that one of Henne’s keys to taking his game to the next level is cutting down on the sacks and reduced pressure from the defense will make this happen and allow Chad to settle into grooves in the big games. Needless to say, a pro bowl performance will be needed from Long and whoever plays LG to keep Henne vertical against Minnesota. I had Jerry as a potential pick for us in the draft and was thrilled when we picked him but even the biggest, nastiest, strongest beast in the world needs to understand his blocking assignments if he is going to matter at the NFL level. I am pretty confident that Double J will transition nicely and look forward to seeing him mow down opposing defenders to spring Ronnie for a 7+ yard gain. If Jerry struggles, he will still make the squad (Unless he struggles REAL badly) and it will be intriguing to watch his improvement up to the end of August. If not for the fact that he will make the 53 man roster unless he proves to be completely rubbish Jerry would be higher on this list.
Just my thoughts. Let the Football begin!!
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Clemons isn't #1?
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This is just some guys he's excited about for TC
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
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by 54 on Jul 29, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
"If Amaya can be as good as we hope he may be ready to step in should Clemons falter"
Clemons is the starter and will all but certainly start at FS against Buffalo but if he isn’t looking good at the position, Amaya will have a chance to replace him if he can live up to his potential. Amaya will likely be inactive on gameday or the primary backup/special teamer unless he can make coaches think he is better and better prepared than Clemons is.
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by TheFinReaper on Jul 30, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Amaya is a fast, hard hitting SS.
He could be a HUGE playmaker due to both of those combined.
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Jerry projects as an RG or RT due to
his size. He weighs about 330 lbs. a LG has to be a quick puller not a humongous moutain mover. Amaya is an extremely fast SS. He hits hard, and runs quick and fast. (the player comparison is Polamalu, because i can’t think of another SS that runs sub 4.4 and excels in run support.)
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yeah I like Cog's more at LG and Jerry at RG
paired with Carey our right side is going to dominate in the run game. I’d also want Jerry to see some reps at RT in case Carey goes down. We could put Thomas in for Jerry and Jerry for Carey and still have a beastly right side
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by Souwantmyname on Jul 29, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think JJ is a project RT
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True
However, thus far all indications are that Cogs is the favorite for the RG starting role and JJ is in the hunt for the LG spot. Camp will determine if JJ has any potential as a run-blocker on the left side but he would be a nasty wall on passing plays. My money for LG is on Donald Thomas/Nate Garner. I can’t pick between them but I would love to see just what we can get from JJ sooner rather than later.
Amaya is the future. The only other option is if he bombs out and we look elsewhere. The big question is FS or SS? Hopefully, he won’t be needed for either position this year and will be 100% ready when Bell retires.
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by TheFinReaper on Jul 30, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with everything you said about RGM
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Fear the dreads, nice one, just need to get Rickys back and were set
The most presure on anybody in this camp is on Henne! I hope he can rise. We have a team of stronger back ups for everybody else, its his time to shine. I dont mind Thiggy but would rather see Henne play like a true QB. Pennington is great but he kills our run game, he can only throw it 15 yards. But a GREAT MENTOR he is.
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agree with everything, nice post
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RGM
Even if RGM was able to beat out Turner and Pruitt for the #5 spot, don’t look for him to be a KR/FR. The reason is because Miami last year only carried 4 WRs on their active roster of 45 players. Patrick Turner, the 5th WR, was inactive for all but 2 games. Much to the dismay of most fans, I’m expecting the KR to be Patrick Cobbs and the PR to be Davone Bess.
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Turner was inactive but Turner was drafted for a purpose and he proved week in and week out that he couldn’t get that job done. If RGM (Kory Sheets or Lex Hilliard for that matter) can show that he is a capable position player AND perform as the top returner on the team, he will likely be kept active on gameday and the team will instead sacrifice a O-lineman or backup safety (probly R. Jones) depending on injury statuses. I agree that Cobbs has the edge at KR and Bess at Pr because they have the experience but that’s what camp and preseason are all about.
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by TheFinReaper on Jul 30, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think Cobbs and Bess are our best options at PR/KR?
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Best Options?
Are they our best options? No, but they also fill roles on the offensive side of the ball. The staff wants versatility where players can play both ST and offense/defense, not just ST.
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But do you think they would really only keep Sheets and RGM only for KR/PR I doubt that. Sheets can run sweeps and short routes ans has sure hands. RGM has sure hands as well, hands just as good as Bess. So I doubt that they wouldnt use them in the regular offense as well. Considering they make the team, which I do expect them to make the team.
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RGM and Sheets
Are they both capable of making plays? Sure, but we haven’t seen much from Sheets and even less from RGM when it comes to NFL games. Are you telling me RGM is capable of forcing Camarillo, Bess, or Hartline to the gameday inactives list? I don’t think so at all. Sheets has a similar uphill battle trying to beat out Hilliard for #4 RB let out surpassing Cobbs as the #3 RB. The only way he stays active is if Cobbs becomes a gameday inactive, which I don’t see happening.
RGM
I wouldn’t know about that. Miami will likely only keep 8 or 9 OL and they’d all likely be active in case of injuries. We know how much bad luck they had there last year. For the safeties, 4 will likely be on the roster and because of special teams coverage and depth because of injuries, look for them to be active as well. Miami wouldn’t want to go into a game with only Clemons, Bell, and maybe Tulver active at safety. They’d be putting themselves at risk in case of injuries and they’re sacrificing a ST coverage player. A #2 FS/SS is a lot more important than a #5 WR or a #4 RB, who also will likely be inactive on Sundays.
I think I didn't come across clearly
They’d be putting themselves at risk in case of injuries and they’re sacrificing a ST coverage player. A #2 FS/SS is a lot more important than a #5 WR or a #4 RB, who also will likely be inactive on Sundays.
I meant active vs inactive not carry one less SS/FS on the 53 man roster. I agree it is unlikely they would rather lose the safety but I doubt they want to regularly run with only 8 linemen after that Carolina game. This is why I think they will go with Cobbs and Bess but bear in mind they brought RGM in because of his return game so if he shines at this he could get the gameday nod. Don’t forget RGM could play both return and coverage units so losing the FS/SS has no bearing on special teams and really only holds for injuries. If he doesn’t excel at the position he will likely be back in BC before the next Grey Cup Game.
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by TheFinReaper on Jul 30, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You came across clearly
What I am saying is you’re putting yourself at risk by only having 3 safeties on the gameday roster. Normally both backup safeties play special teams coverage. Then what happens if even one safety gets injured? You have 2 safeties left and nobody to substitute in for different packages or to provide a breather. Then you’re screwed if 2 safeties get injured in a game. Which would you need more in a game? A 4th safety or a 4th RB or 5th WR? I’ll take the safety any day.
You also can’t just throw in RGM on special teams coverage and hopes he does good. This is how we have a repeat season of 2007 and 2008 where we had poor special teams coverage units.
As for RGM being brought in, he was brought in just like 25+ other players. The Dolphins want a lot of people in training camp to see who has a chance to make it on the roster. RGM may make it on the roster, but I don’t think he’ll be an active player. He’d probably make it as an inactive with hopes of finding room on the roster in the future.
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