and I think it is more than fair to think at least 1 and maybe 2 from the other group will make the grade. I’m thinking probably Incognito will be one, and possibly the one that wins the other guard position. On defense I would not be surprised if either Misi, Odrick, Dobbins or Crowder become another.

We have the players and talent on both lines. We have the depth but if they stay injury free, we’re looking at at least 7.

figuring that out of wake, incognito or grove…..2 of them may be close to top 15 at their position…………like i said, i know it’s a stretch……but i’m hopeful

as well as everyone other sports network commentator with a grain of salt, this is a pretty sound idea in practice, and he seems to have done his homework on it.

I think we will have 6, if not more, because I agree with all the picks he made, plus with the potential prospects that LeftCoastFinFan listed, I am confident that at least one of those will step up, if not more of them.

Who do I think is going to step up? EarthWake.

i feel that jake grove is a red chip player

and john jerry will be at LEAST a red chip player IMO

4

Dansby, Starks, Long, and Carey.

I’ll be honest I forgot Lomb put Langford in there..so, if I had a time machine, I’d go back and vote the same 5 he did.

Oh, and Pat White would be 6 then.

Richie Incognito would be my two players to move to red chip, while Starks moves to blue chip.

That leaves Henne to develop into an elite QB. Having Marshall will definitely make that easier.

Long, Carey, Incognito, Langford, Dansby and Wake, it would be 7 if Starks was at DE, where I consider him a blue player, but at NT I have my doubts he will be a red player.

I have one point I would like to make, I’d like to jog your memory a little bit here Lefty.

We did go through a rebuilding very similar to this under JJ, going into the third year their was only a few players from the previous regime, it didn’t hit like a rebuilding because we went 9-7 the year before JJs first year where we were 8-8, then 9-7 again, but the team was completely different, and so was the roster.

The big difference here is that we are overhauling the defense in year 3 still, in JJs third year the team was very similar as it was in the second, with players developing, we have just cleaned house again in year three so this isn’t the typical rebuilding of a third year team, more like a 2nd year team, just sayin.

Look forward to a new one every Wednesday

I think the 5 Lombardi mentioned and one of the potentials will step up to a red player. It’s just kind of a hunch and gut feeling, but I think that Misi is going to be that player. Odrick definitely has the potential to do it too, but I just think that Misi is going to be the one to get there before Odrick. The Triad said that they had based most of their draft strategy around getting Misi, so they definitely see something in him and probably will be making adjustments to the defense to take advantage of his skill set and maximize his impact potential.

Blue- Long, Grove, Dansby Red- Starks (would be blue at DE), Langford, Carey. I also feel there is a strong possibility that one of the guards or one of the Olb’s (esp Misi) can be become a red chip player.

… plus adding A Fasano and K Misi to the line up. No one is picking a tight end, but I think with the o-line talent and the addition of B Marshall, Fasano will be a red chipper.

And since most of the other list consists mostly of rookies or second year players, I’m going with the OTA favorite, Koa Misi to be not only a red chipper, but a blue chipper by the end of the season.

wrecked

Blue: Long, Dansby, Carey

Red: Starks, Incognito, Grove

Future Blue/Red: Odrick, Misi, Jerry, Wake. I think all four have a great chance at starting and seeing a lot of playing time this season. Would be nice to have 11 Blue/Red Chips. That would translate into winning a Super Bowl I presume.

Can’t give it to Crowder just yet. Hopefully Dansby will help him play up to his potential and move him into the Red catagory.

This team is still rebuiliding. The defense is what worries
me the most this year. There are still holes to fill.

Michael Lombardi actually seems like a reporter that knows what he’s talking about.

My question is should we count ILB’s and OLB’s or just OLB’s? What about a great pocket RB such as Lex? Personally I wouldn’t include ILB’s or pocket protecting RB’s even though both get to the line.

No ILB/RB rule. 5
Jake Long, Kendall Langford, Randy Starks, Vernon Carey, and Anthony Fansano.

Including ILB’s & RB’s. 7
Jake Long, Karlos Dansby, Kendall Langford, Randy Starks, Vernon Carey, Anthony Fansano, and Lex.

A few of these guys will step up to red/ blue “Cameron Wake, Richie Incognito, Jake Grove, John Jerry, Donald Thomas, Nate Garner, Joe Berger, Koa Misi, Jared Odrick, A.J. Edds, Ryan Baker, Paul Soliai” and that Jets player we signed.

Wake, Incoginito, and Grove will most like step up to the Blue/red chip standard. But any of those guys listed can step up. If Misi steps up, Then WOW! is all I got to say

trouble seeing why so few people are listing Grove as a blue or red chip player. He is a top 5 center and we gained nearly 50 yards/game more with him in. Seems pretty dominant to me.

To summarize current poll results as of 5:30pm PDT:

With 831 votes so far

89% of you expect to have 5 or more Red Chip and Blue Chip players among our Defensive Front 7 and our O-line

64% expect 6 or more

AND the single highest vote getter in the the poll, 33% of you voted for “7 or more, top 15 players at their position in the NFL”

I am very glad to see that I am not the ONLY fan who rolls into training camp looking at the fantastic upside we have as a team this season.
=)

Adding in a new color designation

A. Hartline: Green 1
R. Weaver: Green 2
R. Lumbala: Green 3
L. Polite: Blue 1
A. Spitler: Green 4
C. McCoy: Green 5
A.J. Edds: Green 6
E. Walden: Green 7
T. Dobbins: Green 8
C. Crowder: Red 1
K. Misi: Green 9
C. Anderson: Green 10
K. Dansby: Blue 2
J.D. Folsom: Green 11
C. Procter: Green 12
T. Ivey: Green 13
A. Gardner: Green 14
J. Grove: Red 2
D. Thomas: Green 15
J. Berger: Green 16
R. incognito: Blue 3
R. Feinga: Green 17
K. Langford: Red 3
L. Dotson: Green 18
V. Carey: Red 4
M. Stanley: Green 19
D. Tsoumpas: Green 20
J. Jerry: Green 21
N. Garner: Green 22
L. Murtha: Green 23
J. Long: Blue 4
T. McDaniel: Green 24
I.A. Francis: Green 25
A. Fasano: Red 5
J. Haynos: Green 26
K. Sperry: Green 27
J. Nalbone: Green 28
R. Baker: Green 29
C. Wake: Yellow 1
Q. Moses: Green 30
R. Starks: Red 6
M. Douglas: Green 31
P. Soliai: Green 32
P. Merling: Green 33
J. Odcrick: Green 34

Green: Fairly Replaceable/Rookie
Yellow: On the Cusp of Red
Red: Not easily/cheaply replaceable
Blue: Top 10

He pointed out that a championship team had to have 7 blue or red players on the offensive and defensive lines and then went on to point out the blue and red players on the whole team…
     That said I have to say we have 8. On offense we have Jake Long(blue), Richie Incognito(blue or red), Jake Grove/Joe Berger(solid red between the 2 of them, but blue if Grove could stay healthy for an entire season), Vernon Carey(red, but if you argued he didn’t belong here, I might agree because I think he is overrated). The last one could be any of the guys that we have at Guard. I think Donald Thomas, John Jerry, or Nate Garner could be solid reds, so even if we lose one we have really solid depth along the line. On defense we have Kendal Langford(red), Randy Starks(blue at DE, but at least a red at NT), and Cameron Wake(blue). I added our WOLB because we run a 3-4 and at least one of those should count. I also added him because he is at this point completely one-dimensional and if Nolan uses him correctly, we will be ok with an elite pass rusher. JT said that we will forget all about him, he sees that much talent in the guy and I tend to agree. There is no one that can block him consistently and he causes mismatches all day long at that spot.

After reading it I picked the same 5 he had and expected one of Misi, Wake, Grove, or Odrick to hit. Statistics point to not all of them becoming “reds” or “blues” but I think at least one will but probably two.

I think Ronnie can be a blue chip guy