2010 Training Camp Primer: A defensive line in flux
I'm officially back from vacation and it's time to move full speed ahead towards 2010 training camp. The first practice is scheduled for Friday at 2 pm. Between now and then, the Dolphins have some work to do - they still have their top two draft picks to sign. I'd be surprised if either was to miss any practice time. But it's getting late quickly.
Somewhat related, last week was an eventful week for the middle of July, wasn't it? Just when I thought mid July would be a good time to take a week off, wouldn't you know a potential starter suffers an injury that will cause him to miss the entire season. That's where we'll start.
Merling goes down
Though it's unclear if Phillip Merling suffered his injury participating in a team-sanctioned activity or not, we do know (via various media outlets) that Merling suffered a torn Achilles tendon last week that will sideline him for all of the 2010 season - the final straw of what has been a very rough offseason for Phillip.
While many Dolphin fans might not see Merling's loss as a major issue, it's never good when a player who was penciled in for now as a starter is lost for the season. Yes, Merling has underachieved through his first two seasons in the league. But now the Dolphins, who created the hole Merling was going to fill by moving Randy Starks to nose tackle, will have to find an alternative solution to their hole at defensive end.
Veteran added to compete with young and inexperienced
Replacing Merling as the starting defensive end opposite Kendall Langford in Miami's base defense will be one of the more important camp story lines beginning on Friday. Most fans instantly thought of first-round pick Jared Odrick upon learning of Merling's injury. But Odrick himself admits that it's going to take some time for him to adjust to playing in a 3-4 defense after spending his college days starring in Penn State's 4-3. Odrick isn't even signed yet and you have to imagine Odrick's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, will use this latest development as leverage.
Perhaps the in-house favorite to immediately replace Merling as a starter is Tony McDaniel. The 6'7, 305 pound veteran saw action in all 16 games last year in his first year with Miami and, more importantly, his first year in a 3-4 defense. With one year of experience in a similar defensive scheme to that of what Mike Nolan will run, Merling's misfortune might have just opened a door for McDaniel. After all, McDaniel only played roughly 50 fewer defensive snaps in 2009 than Merling.
But the Dolphins obviously weren't comfortable with any of their in-house options. If they were, they wouldn't have signed the 33-year old Marques Douglas to a two year, $2.5 million contract after reportedly working out "several players" last week. Douglas spent 2009 with the Jets, starting 12 games for Rex Ryan's team. Douglas has also played for Mike Nolan in the past and has extensive experience in a 3-4 defense.
The good news about this move - one man who watched Douglas play all season last year believes he still has something left to offer. Jets radio analyst Marty Lyons told the Miami Herald that Marques is "steady and will be there to shut down the run." The Herald also has a stat from ESPN stat guru K.C. Joyner that says Douglas had a 12.3% win percentage at the point off attack on runs in his direction last season. Merling's win percentage was just 6.8% last year.
Opportunities for two young guys
With injuries, opportunities arise. I'm sure many of you can think of instances when a player who was buried on the depth chart got an opportunity thanks to an injury to a starter and never looked back, thriving with his increased playing time. Starting Friday, there are two Dolphins who might have an opportunity to make a name for themselves and carve out increased roles in this defense.
Lionel Dotson was a 2008 seventh round pick but has managed to stick with the Dolphins for two seasons, seeing action four games in his career. In past training camps, his teammates have spoken highly of his ability to get to the quarterback as a 3-4 defensive end. But he hasn't stood out enough to earn much playing time. This season is probably Dotson's final chance to show something before the Dolphins cut ties with him and spend their time developing other defensive linemen.
One of those other linemen could be Ryan Baker. He's personally one of my favorite "sleepers" on this roster because of the flashes he showed during his very limited playing time last year. He was an undrafted free agent who seemingly came out of nowhere to earn a practice squad spot last year. Then Baker was activated in late November, making his NFL debut on November 29 against the Bills, registering a half sack when he and Jason Taylor converged on Ryan Fitzpatrick. What makes Baker so intriguing is that he is versatile enough to play any spot on the defensive line. Versatility is something this coaching staff puts extra emphasis on. If Baker can build on his strong OTA and mini-camp showings, he's going to earn a roster spot.
Final Thought
It's going to be interesting to see who begins camp on Friday working as the first team defensive end opposite of Kendall Langford. But keep in mind that whoever that is who starts off camp as a starter isn't necessarily going to be who ends camp as a starter. Last year it was Merling who began camp as a starter before Randy Starks won the job.
Still, it'll be fascinating to see who gets the nod. Will it be the rookie (assuming he gets signed in time)? Will it be the veteran who was just signed last week? Or will it be one of the guys who have worked all offseason long with Mike Nolan?
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Thank god we drafted Odrick
At first glance it seemed stupid but none of us would’ve foreseen Merling’s injury, smart move after all FO.
you can never have enough talent and depth in the trenches
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you can never have enough talent and depth in the trenches
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you can never have enough talent and depth in the trenches
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you can never have enough talent and depth in the trenches
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you can never have enough talent and depth in the trenches
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WHAT the heck dude
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
the ps3 told me the comment didnt go through.
so i retyped it. when i refreshed the page i saw this mess
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Oh hell PotM you have finally gone and done it. 5 times? You know what happens now?
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by texascowpunk on Jul 26, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry. on ps3 didn't seem to go through
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matty can you please delete the repeats?
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He's gonna burn your finger tips....
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I know thats what makes it worse. Nothing like being injured with your own weapon.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 26, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally I don't care who starts there
I just hope they’re effective.
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maybe i missed his name in the article, but you should add the other new comer
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/26/1746552/defensive-tackle-stanley-signs.html
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this was more about the ends than nose tackles
and I think Stanley projects more as a NT. Regardless, i see him as a an additional camp body, nothing more
yeah i see that now
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I think Odrick will start with the starters, come training camp
But, if he can’t handle it, I believe Douglas will take over.
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I AGREE
Its definetly Odricks spot to lose,and douglas is the fall back plan for now but matty sure got me fired up wondering if anyone will step up and stand out in T.C.
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by Mr.Phintastic on Jul 26, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I respectfully disagree...
the M.O. of this Front Office has been that rookies have to earn their stripes, well, except for Koa Misi maybe.
Marques Douglas is not flashy, but he has experience, is well known to Mike Nolan, and is solid (at least against the run, which is exactly what Odrick needs to learn to do).
I say that Marques Douglas starts in training camp and Odrick has to beat him out to start (and to beat him out, he has got to prove that he can consistently hold up against the run = which is a good thing). Worst case scenario, Douglas starts at RDE all year and Odrick comes in on passing situations. I predict that the Front Office (ISP) will force Odrick to WIN the starting job. That is a good thing.
Jared Odrick 6-5 304 DL & Tim Dobbins 6-1 246 ILB & Koa Misi 6-3 251 LOLB
Brandon Marshall 6-4 230 WR; John Jerry 6-5 328 LG; AJ Edds 6-3 247 LILB
Nolan Carroll 5-11 204 CB & Rashad Jones 6-1 214 S; Chris McCoy 6-3 244 ROLB; Austin Spitler RILB 6-2 243; Pet Cat:Chris "He's the REAL" McCoy 6-3 244
I tend to agree here...
… I don’t mind if Odrick waits a little time, but I believe he is the future for sure. Dude has some incredible ability already. And the team seems to have options and depth along (both) lines…
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree as well that Douglas will be the starter....
However, I also think that Sparano wants to get his young players in as much as possible to grow them and see what they can do. I.e. Porter’s comments on Wake last year and Sparano’s comments recently about Kory Sheets. So, even if Douglas starts the regular season, we will still see a lot of Odrick….unless he stinks.
by christiandolfan on Jul 26, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
personally, I'm not too concerned with the loss of Merling.
I believe Douglas will be equally effective, if not more. The only thing we lose with Merling is potential. We keep hoping he lives up the his pre-draft hype but he has done nothing to show that he ever will.
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I think McDaniel is the guy
Unless the rook dazzles in TC, it’s Tony’s to lose IMHO.
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Another signing
Just an FYI, but Miami also signed Montavious Stanley to compete for a reserve DT slot. He spent last year with the Jaguards on their reserve unit. I don’t know if he’ll be able to beat out Baker for a spot, but at least it provides more competition.
I've seen that same Merling pic like 8 times...
Someone needs to bring a camera to the TC lol
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Douglas looked prety good in the Jets/Chargers playoff replay I watched yesterday.
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Merling wasn't guranteed
a starting spot anyways. Can’t wait to see which guys steps up.
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Yes. I. Did.
Ya know....
At first glance,I didn’t know what to think of this years roster. Of course,I both support my dolphins,and feel they have enough talent to make it to the big game EVERY year. But this years dolphins have me the most excited.
Sparano said it best,its not about 53 stars,its about the right 53 players. I see a team with a lot of youth,hunger,and tenacity.
People were stressing when we didn’t address a big named NT,or FS. How do we know they aren’t on the roster already? Nolan looks to have had A LOT of input in this years draft,he is a defensive mastermind,maybe he decided what we have on our roster is the best available talent in the end.
Rolle,Atogwe,and the other FS free agents might have been nice,but we DON’T know what kind of progress Clemons,or any other FS we have has made. Also,whose to say FS has to be manned by VD,WA,or SS? We also have a smart young stud by the name of Nolan Carrol,sure they say nickel corner,but as we saw with Starks,no one really knows what they will be doing,or if they even make the roster this year. Just a thought.
DL,starting projection is probably going to be in flux,but I like our options,so much potential,and I believe Nolan was the right choice to tap into it.
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by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
please don't start the move WA to FS again
i already have a headache thank you.
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reread what i wrote
I SAID who is to say Allen,Davis,or Smith should move to FS. If anything I was saying we could possibly see Nolan Carrol tried there.
Personally,id like Allen at the #2 corner,with Smith in at nickel.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 26, 2010 8:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im worried
about our depth on the d-line, i know its early and more acorns to come, but im concerned. we need another guy like douglas.
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we have depth
Douglas,Langford,Mcdaniels,Odrick,Stanley
Don’t get me wrong,stanleys projected to challenge for backup NT,but again,the best 53 play,and I’m sure they are gonna try each of these guys everywhere,idk,seems the FO is trying to make these guys on dline as versatile as the guys on our Oline.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 26, 2010 8:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with PotM's (repeated) comment about depth
Its not a bad thing to have depth, Fins have plenty of bodies for the OL ,as well.
With the legal issues facing Merling, I was concerned about that issue already before his injury. Felony assault on his gf (allegedly) is not something Commish would ignore.
From what I’ve read, it seems the team fully expects to sign Misi and Oldrick by the start of practices. I hope they are correct.
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Odrick won't be ready so the Douglas signing is huge.
Odrick is a rotation guy right now at best. He is a DT from a 4-3 trying to learn a DE position in a 3-4. Odrick is going to find that playing against NFL offensive tackles is a lot tougher than playing against college guards and centers. I don’t expect too much from him this year.
Douglas is going to be huge for this defense. He is exactly what they need at the position, a run stuffing machine. Because the Phins, by choice, are undersized at NT, run stuffing DE’s are a must. I think Douglas could be the most effective DL player on the Phins this year. I love this signing.
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how do you kow JO wont be ready?
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There is a good chance he's right,
historically speaking.
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by uncle finster on Jul 27, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
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by wild zion beaver on Jul 27, 2010 1:57 AM EDT reply actions
Shots on goal
Although important final positions are not finalized, we actually have a bunch of guys with potential to be really big contributors. Marques Douglas is a high probability starter with Odrick rotating in as he learns the position and Tony McDaniel with a chance if he ups the intensity of his game a notch. Ditto the LB squad. Several players who could become excellent. Dolphins are thoroughly rebuilt from ground up. Players who whine or have bad attitudes or chronically lose time to injury or are on the declining years are gone. Every position is competitive in a ruthless meritocracy. Plus some great skill players on both sides of ball and a young strong armed QB with the tools, confidence, and teachers to become a star this year or next and great depth behind him if problems arise. Team is big, strong, fast . . . . and DEEP. I have not seen a Dolphin’s team this complete since the early 70s.

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