Saturday Survey: Which 30 year old is most valuable to Dolphins?
With Jason Ferguson's sudden retirement this past week, the Dolphins lost a key veteran - both on the field and in the locker room. That got me to thinking: which 30+ year old player is the most valuable to this team?
Of course, the first part of this question requires you to define the term "valuable." What makes this poll interesting is that some people will view "value" simply as on-field production while others will define it as something more. You could think about leadership, for example.
The Dolphins currently six players who are 30 years of age or older. Below are just my quick thoughts on each in terms of their value to this team. Be sure to not only cast your vote but explain why you feel the player you chose is more valuable. Should make for a good discussion.
Chad Pennington, 34 - Pennington returns to Miami despite being a clear back-up to possible franchise quarterback Chad Henne. But he's still a damn good quarterback to have as a fall-back option in case of injury. And his value as a mentor might just be priceless.
Ricky Williams, 33 - Ricky is perhaps the most popular Dolphin on the roster - or very close to it, at least. He's coming off a remarkable 1,000 yard season and will again start the year as one-half of Miami's potentially potent rushing attack - teaming with Ronnie Brown, of course. But does the fact that the Dolphins have Ronnie slightly diminish Ricky's value to this team?
Yeremiah Bell, 32 - Bell was a Pro Bowler last year and returns as the lone starting veteran in Miami's secondary. He has become more of a leader over the past couple of years as well. His value, though, is most easily seen by looking at the lack of depth behind him.
Will Allen, 31 - Allen will be looking to bounce back from a torn ACL and will be in a battle to reclaim his starting job from one of Miami's two second-year cornerbacks. When 100% healthy, Allen is a highly underrated player. But we have no idea how Allen will perform as he comes back from that knee injury.
John Denney, 31 - Denney has been as consistent a long snapper as there is in the league. He recently signed a contract extension with the Dolphins and is one of the very few Dolphins who will face absolutely no competition in camp. But he's "only" a long snapper. Of course, the only time you discuss long snappers is when they screw up. The fact that we never talk about Denney shows his value to this team.
Jake Grove, 30 - Grove had an outstanding start to his Miami career before suffering an injury and being replaced by Joe Berger. Berger wasn't as effective as Grove was, but Jake is far more expensive. With Jake's injury history, it might be hard to see Grove as the "most valuable" older Dolphin.
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Bell
because he plays at a consistent level game in and game out. And we don’t have a starting caliber SS (or maybe even FS) behind him. He’s crucial
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I do love Yeremiah
see my avatar as proof
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
rickys good but he aint starting, plus if Bell goes down there’s no one who could take his place on the roster.
Yeah I mean Rickys a great player and an assest to the organization....
But look at the facts: We have 3 runningbacks behind Williams that IMO could get his or Ronnie Browns job done if they both werent there. Bell is a leader on a defense that has 2 young second year corners starting plus a starting rookie LB in Misi and a rookie DE in Odrick. Not to mention Wake may take on a staring role and he isnt anything more than a 2nd year player as well.
by usualsuspect609 on Jul 17, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
So if Bell gets injured we would just leave that spot on the field open?
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by madcitydave on Jul 17, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean just on the field
Course Culver or maybe Jones can play in his place if he was to be injured. I’m trying to say that Bell is a veteran on the defense, i’m pretty sure his the longest serving player on defense as it is yet he’s much more then just a player and he’s vital to the secondary in which he provides a role model type of figure. Is there another db with his sort of caliber, professionalism, leadership, play making ability? No, hence why no one can replace him from the roster.
Agreed
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by uncle finster on Jul 17, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
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by el presidente 00 on Jul 17, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
if we didnt have ricky,we still have ronnie.
if we didnt have yeremiah bell, well… you tell me what will happen
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by el presidente 00 on Jul 17, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...
Without Bell, our secondary would struggle.
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by The Earl on Jul 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess that even though Dansby was captain in AZ last year, he won't be here
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Bell
Its for sure Bell currently due to the fact if he goes down theres no one who can come close to his production(wonder if W.Allen could fill that void)Ricky of course is a close 2nd and with Browns injury issues he’s almost as irreplaceable.Chad is a really nice assest but let’s hope it’s only as a menor/coach.Losing Denney would for sure havea negative impact but how much difference is the best longsnapper compared to the 10th.
WA isn't the tackler Bell is!
People, stop trying to make WA a S!
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most valuable vet
for one he would have to be someone who contributes ( on the feild ) on game day, thats why chad is ruled out, for now . for a vet i think it is very important for that locker room presence and leadership ability, and i dont know ricky seems more shy not outspoken like a vocal leader should be , plus like matty said theres always ronnie. so that leaves only one other worthy canndidate Yeremiah Bell . As the only probowler of the group in recent years, and the only proven player in the secondary ( sean and vontae still have some proven to do ) . Plus he takes more snaps than anyone else on the list .
lol
at peeps who voted for Pennington, a 3rd string QB over Ricky and Yeremiah. Homers.
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this is an attempt at misdirection
Neo, in fact, DID vote for CP.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Classic.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ya gotta keep sharp...
that Neo is a tricky one…
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
@ss
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Yes. I. Did.
do you kiss your wife with that mouth?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 17, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's just out of control since Matty left.
:>D
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by uncle finster on Jul 17, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad P has great teaching value, RW has the onfield value
…but Yeremiah is my fave Dolphin on the team.
I voted Chad P, because his mentoring of Henne could be invaluable. Ricky should have another very productive year on the field, and without useless Gibril in the secondary anymore, Yeremiah should have a solid year as well(another pro bowl, perhaps?)
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What is the clip?
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by Deuce Black on Jul 17, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesomeness
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by uncle finster on Jul 17, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
dangit! what is the clip?
I can’t get it to play!
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Bell, period. Ricky could be but only if Ronnie goes down again.
Bell
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And I love RunRickyRun and CP10 also!
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Bell play will be vital to our defense, considering our FS dilemna.
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I'm voting Bell
I can see the sentimental value in voting for Ricky but truth be told we have too many running backs and are really thin at safety.
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on Jul 17, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
You can never have too many good RB's.
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by madcitydave on Jul 17, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree
I’m not saying we have too many, just we have a lot more quality RBs than quality safeties. I’m happy to have the problem of too many RBs
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on Jul 18, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ricky is leading by 15% of the vote but all the comments are about Bell
I guess people who voted for Ricky just don’t need to explain themselves.
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I voted for Ricky
but I’m more interested in people who voted for Pennington over these 2. I would LOVE to here them explain how they think Pennington is more valuable than them. They are basically saying that they would get rid of Yeremiah and/or Ricky before Pennington. I mean because you want to keep your most valuable right?
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Yes. I. Did.
I voted for Bell, and I don't even think its close;
but I think the argument for CP10 is the same argument people have for Nolan being our biggest addition in the offseason. Sometimes the coaches on the sideline are more important than the players on the field, and we all know that CP10 is brought in to be a coach, as well as an insurance policy. And the fact that he is supposed to be helping our future in Henne makes him that much more important.
I can see that point
but in no way is he more “valuable” than Yeremiah and Ricky. Yeremiah, Ricky or CP, if you had to lose one (meaning can’t be around the team) for the enitre year, which one you live with losing?
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Yes. I. Did.
CP10, without a doubt.
Just like out of Marshall, Dansby, and Nolan, that answer would be Nolan for me also.
i also voted for Ricky
i was on the Bell bandwagon long before most, and i still love the guy. But i think we actually have more candidates that can come in and perform at his level (jones maybe?) than we have RBs that can come in and perform at Ricky’s level.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
long time no see
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i voted for Bell
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Denney.. lol
i say Pennington
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
CP10!
He Influences Henne’s Growth. WR’s growth. O-Line’s growth. A better QB WR and Oline means better competition for the D. Which cause even more growth.
Can't remember the last time Miami had so much talent.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
They all brings lots to the team!
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by 54 on Jul 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree completely
As has been said here before CP10 is one of the most unselfish players i’ve ever seen. For him to spend alot of time with CH7 and help him mature into a very good QB last season and this season coming up as well says alot about him and makes him very valuable to the team. I’ll say this i’m sure that cry baby in New England didn’t help Cassel out a couple of yrs ago. He probably just stayed home on the couch.
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bell, cp10, and ricky
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by dolger14 on Jul 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I voted for Bell
Nothing against the other guys in the poll, but Bell is the lone defensive leader left. CP and Ricky are both great players, but neither is a starter and both are past their prime even though they’re still solid contributors. What it boils down to is the fact that if Ricky or Chad get injured (God forbid). There are guys in front of and behind them that can do the job. If Grove gets injured, as we saw last year, we’re still in good shape. But if Bell or Denny gets injured, things can go south in hurry.
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A few of these players are very very valuable...
namely Ricky and Bell, more than the others.
Let’s face it, chances are Ronnie Brown will once again find himself on the sidelines. Ricky proved to be far more than a reliable backup and I’d argue he was the better running back outright last year and the season before actually….note I said running back, not WC trigger man.
Then of course, Bell had a solid (though not as good as some past seasons) year and behind him you have what….Rashead, maybe? Plus he’s a veteran and the leader of the secondary that’s otherwise going to be filled with young players.
CP10…quite frankly, he is at his best with a baseball hat, clipboard, and headset on. Hopefully he gets nowhere near the field and can contribute more on the sidelines. Still, he’s not the 3rd string QB for nothing and that lowers his value considerably in my eyes as I’d rather see Thigpen in there, before CP10.
Will Allen….before his injury and the emergence of our two young corners, he would have been in the discussion. Right now though, he has the look of being a nickel back in our D. Valuable, but not as much as Bell or Ricky.
Finally, Grove while solid last year had his usual (per his career history) injury bouts and that let Joe Berger get some starts. I don’t think Grove is as safe as some believe or at least, not quite for what he’s being paid. I think if Miami can get a younger, cheaper, and more importantly, less injury prone replacement, then they will.
To explain my CP10 vote
The question did not specifically say ON THE FIELD. I never thought we’d keep CP10 another season, and when he decided to stay and help mentor Henne, I felt it was a gift.
No doubt, Bell and RW are extremely valuable….the R&R show will pile up more yards this year now that Marshall is in town stretching the defenses. Bell is the anchor of the secondary and I wear my Aqua #37 with pride.
You could even make cases for Denney, as long snappers are like pickpockets and umpires…you only really notice them when they mess up, and John is an excellent LS.
I was happy to get Grove but sad to see his injury history continued last year.
And the questions surrounding Allen’s return from injury diminish his possible on field value, but with Bell, he will lead and tutor our young DBs.
All in all, I don’t wanna lose any of these guys….push comes to shove, the one I think they could survive the easiest without (meaning without even being around) would be Grove, IMO due to our depth on the OL.
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Tbh,most valuable player for us over 30 will prolly be J.Taylor. he’s gonna take one long look at what he’s left,look around to what he went to,and breaak down,lol.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 17, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
on a more serious note,
Probably have to go with denney. We lose him,well,let’s just ask a question,with taylor gone,who will fill his shoes? We may not have a viable option at ss,but we have options,unknowns sure,but they are still there. Cb,well,nolan carrol looks like a stud sleeper.ricky goes down,well we got a runningback by commision going,pennington may never see the field,and grove? Well,seems we have that covered as well.
Leads me to ask the question again,as I think a lot of our special teams suffers if denney goes down. Kicker? Punter? Both become innefective if they can’t get the ball.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 17, 2010 4:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
seriously have grove or berger whoever is the backup center practice long snaps . cant be much different then shotgun snaps to the qb
If it is so bloody easy, then why do we (& every other team) have a LS taking up a roster spot?
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ima have to go with Bell
he’s a starter and the only experienced starter in the secondary.
without him our run defense suffers as well similar to what happened to the Colts a couple years ago when Bob Sanders went down.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 17, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
If Ricky scores 10 TD's this season
he will be the MV30+ year old on the team. Don’t think Bell or CP will have that kind of production. As the great Jim Rome say the team that scores more points always wins. Points = Value = Wins = #34
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Also, the team that allows the fewest points wins.
Pro Bowl = valueable = wins = Bell
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What's wrong with my adding?
We saw what trying to just outscore our opponents results in. (see Marino years)
Now, it seems we will see a balenced team.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i went with bell . as pennington is most likely on the pup list and when he comes back probably third string behind thigpen. ricky is great but a backup to ronnie . will allen is going to be the nickel so he wont start either. denny is just the long snapper. and grove is in a battle with berger to start and is too prone to injury.
kind of off topic but i have a question
How does the J.Ferg retirement affect our cap,I mean is he still on the payroll? Partial? Idk,just wondering if we are still responsible for any or all of his contract. And if not,why he couldn’t have done this sooner,perhaps giving us freedom to pursue a free agent free safety or speedy return man
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 17, 2010 6:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There is no cap.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
shhh! don't let the cat outta da bag!
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LOL
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
im not meaning this year
His contract was for 2-3 years. I know there’s none this year,but I mean for next “if there’s no work stoppage” and so forth. Maybe I was a little unspecific.
If a player retires before his contracts up,are teams still liable for the amount over the course of the contract?
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 17, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He will come off the books because we have no cap this year.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
also
If there was a cap,how would it affect it in terms of tying up the financial parts towards it
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 17, 2010 7:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
upon retirement, the contract is null & void, as I understand it. No cap hit at all.
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the reason i ask
Is because I’m confused is because ZT signed for a day and a dollar. Also,in signing the contract,he was also afforded a signing bonus,so id just like to know
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 17, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Normally it would hit us next year but as far as I have read you can clear all the cap room you
want this year without any of it coming back to bite you later.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 17, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 18, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry guys but ricky is running away with the vote
if ricky and ronnie both stay healthy, fins could have 2 rbs with over a 1000 yds…ricky leads by example…always gives 110 %
I will say .... Grove...
I always favor linemen because I know they never get any love… But think about how solid we were along the offensive line last year after being ok the year before. What was it that we did from one year to the next? We brought in Grove and Berger. Grove is the starter though and we do suffer when he is not in there… You gotta protect your skill players and you have to win at the line of scrimmage….
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by texascowpunk on Jul 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the only reason people are voting for someone other than #34
is because they still can’t forgive him for his past. To that I say, c’mon people, Ricky is a Dolphin and will always be remembered as one. He f’ed up and he knows it. Lets move on and give a GREAT player his due. YB does not equal RW. Not even close.
Miami Dolphin fan since 1971. Ricky Williams for starting RB! Brandon Marshall will pick #19?? Trust the TRIUMVERATE!! Chad Henne will be the next Miami Dolphins QB to win a Super Bowl.
And you would be incorrect. It is possible that like me who loves Ricky but did not pick him
had a legit reason. This was not a popularity contest but who in our opinion was most valuable. Did you not read the reasons that people gave? Also on player may seem like a greater player but it depends on how a fan sees the concept of value to the teams. I for one look at it as who would hurt us more if they went down with injury.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 18, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take my chances w/Bell
than w/out Ricky. We all know Brown will go down at some point in the season and w/out Ricky we would be screwed. If Bell gets hurt we do lose a veteran leader but I still think the talent drop off behind him is less than the drop off behind Ricky.
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by madcitydave on Jul 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough but my point still stands.
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by texascowpunk on Jul 18, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
John Denny
He’s a great leader in the locker room and a big snapper….

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by texascowpunk on Jul 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't even decide who to vote for.
I do see however that Will Allen got no love here. Hes not a flashy one handed(or even two) interception kind of guy, but he wont let himself get beat and hes great at reading what an opposing offense is doing. Hes got a lot he can teach our young corners and with his mentoring and there god given ability I think we can have a corner tandem to fear.
Bell is one of my favorites too, hes solid and knows what hes doing without any doubt. Plus he keeps his mouth shut and does his job which there is alot to be said for. I think a very good argument can be made for all of the above guys and I think if I voted just one I wouldnt sleep at night. Ricky is one of my favorite dolphins of all time along with Zach(That defector Taylor used to be on this list and maybe someday I can forgive and forget, but well cross that bridge in 200 years when we get to it). All in all this is too tough a decision for me to make. Ill tell you this….I want every single one of those guys on this team period.
i chose williams only because he had to carry the load after ronnie went down again, and i considered pennington because of the (coaching) he brings to henne.
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