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Weekend Roundup: Talking Saban, signings & more

First of all, I hope all of you fathers out there had a great Father's Day yesterday.

We're now less than six weeks away from the start of training camp down in Davie. But for now, all is relatively quiet as the organization comes as close to "shutting down" for a few weeks as it ever will. But that doesn't mean there's nothing to discuss, of course.

Here's what you may have missed from this past weekend.

Saban apologizes, but still comes off as a douche
Pardon my language, but even when attempting to apologize (too little, too late, of course) Nick Saban just comes off as a complete douche bag. He just does.

I quickly pointed out his apology late last week and told you I'd get into my thoughts a little bit more once I had a chance. And to those who wonder why this is even a topic, 29% of the 3,500 people who have voted in our poll still list Saban as their most hated person in football. So clearly this is still a hot topic amongst many Dolphin fans.

So I'll warm you - if you don't care about this, then skip down a little bit to avoid. Otherwise, read on.

Star-divide

So let's get onto what Saban says in his sit-down with The Sporting News:


"Well, honesty and integrity is an important part of our character, my character. Those are words that we use all the time.  I think that in an effort to protect our team at Miami -- because I had not talked to Alabama and did not talk to them until the season ended -- I express that (character is important) to (Alabama) through my agent and said it was up to them whether they wanted to wait and that I would not make any promises.  I would talk to them then, [and] I would only reassess my circumstances and our situation as a family at the end of the year.

"But I kept getting asked about this over and over and over, and in trying to defuse the interest and leave the focus on our team in Miami (long pause) . . . I had a responsibility and obligation to the players on that team, the coaches on the staff, and I didn't want that to be the focus of attention.

"So would I manage it differently?  Absolutely.  I would still have the same integrity for our team, but I just would not answer any questions relative to Alabama. . . .  I do apologize for any professional mishandling that might have occurred."

So far he makes a lot of sense. He says what most of us figured he was doing. He wasn't going to come right out and say that he was interested in leaving the Dolphins for Alabama. You don't say that in the middle of a season. That's fine.

But Saban also should not have lied publicly to the South Florida media and, essentially, the entire world by declaring he's "not going to be the Alabama coach." Instead, a simple "no comment" would have been fine.

At least Saban realizes this...now. It only took him about three and a half years to figure this out, huh?

But what about the decision to acquire Daunte Culpepper instead of Drew Brees?

"We had an opportunity to get a quarterback in Drew Brees or Daunte Culpepper and we probably missed out on the physical well-being of those two players; we took the guy that we felt was more healthy, and he wasn't healthy. No disrespect to him; he did the best he could, Daunte Culpepper.  Drew Brees didn't have any problems and ended up having a great career.  Had that been different, I think we'd have made our team a lot better."

Made improvements as a team? Really?

If not for Jason Taylor having a completely monstrous season, this team probably loses a game or two more than the 10 they lost in 2006. How is that improving as a team?

And I'm sick and tired of Saban hiding behind the medical staff's incompetency by pointing out how they took the quarterback who they felt was "more healthy."

Regardless, Saban's closing statement is probably the toughest two sentences to stomach as Dolphin fans:

"We didn't have a quarterback the second year, and it affected our ability to be successful.  But we made improvements as a team; we made improvements on defense.  So I don't really feel like I took one on the chin.  I don't really feel like we failed."

Saban took over a team that won four games and left us with a team that won just six games, a team with no quarterback, and a team that had very little young talent on a roster that was filled with guys like Donnie Spragan and Travares Tillman. His drafts netted us two players in two years who were of any value while wasting picks on guys like Jason Allen and Derek Hagan.

If that's not failure, then what the hell is?

Dolphins re-sign two more
After re-signing Tim Dobbins last week, the Dolphins turned their attention to special teams. Though Pro Bowl kicker Dan Carpenter is scheduled to become a restricted free agent after this season, he wasn't one of the two who got re-upped. Instead it was punter Brandon Fields and long-snapper John Denney who got contract extensions from the Dolphins late last week.

Fields, who along with Paul Soliai are the only two players left from the lone draft of the Mueller/Cameron regime, is now signed through 2012. Fields has seen his numbers steadily improving in each of his first three seasons. His average punt has gone from 43.2 yards his rookie season to 46.3 yards last season - ranking 6th in the NFL. He's got an absolutely booming leg and his career high 71 yard punt from 2008 is the 6th longest punt in the past two seasons. If he can just keep his mechanics in check and become more consistent, he'll be this franchise's punter for many years to come.

Denney, meanwhile, will be with the Dolphins through at least 2013 thanks to his extension. He's entering his sixth season in the league - all with the Dolphins - and has never missed a single game. And yet, some fans might not even recognize his name - and certainly wouldn't recognize his face.

That's what happen when you're the long-snapper. You are rarely ever mentioned...unless you make a mistake, that is. That's why Denney was re-signed. He hardly ever makes a mistake with his long-snapping duties. That kind of performance is taken for granted by fans...but not by this front office.

In my opinion, these are two extensions that were very much deserved.

Quick Hits

  • The Dolphins are reportedly interested in BYU running back Harvey Unga, who is entering the supplemental draft. Unga is BYU's career rushing leader and will be working out for scouts on July 8. He was kicked out of school for having premarital sex with his fiance. He's a big, versatile back who excels at catching the ball out of the backfield. From the limited film I've seen on him, he reminds me of a Brian Leonard type of running back. He'll need to show good speed, though, in his workout. If he can run a sub 4.6 40 at 6'0, 240 pounds, he'll boost his stock tremendously.
  • Jason Cole is currently doing positional team-by-team rankings for Yahoo! Sports and ranks the Dolphins' offensive line fifth in the league, writing that "this is the best run-blocking unit in the league, hands down, showing the emphasis head coach (and former offensive line coach) Tony Sparano puts on line play. This group is the embodiment of what Bill Parcells loves in a line: a bunch of big, intimidating maulers."
  • ESPN's Tim Graham putting the spotlight on FB Lousaka Polite. Good for him, I say. Polite is one of my favorite guys on this team and this piece highlights how Lousaka refuses to get complacent. I love his attitude and how he's an example of hard work paying off.

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Who or what is Saban?

Its is good to see Denney & Fields taken care of.

It is also good to see the OL get some credit in national press.

And Polite is THE best!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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by PhinsTifosi on Jun 21, 2010 5:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice read Matty

Keep ‘em comin’ man

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Kicked out of school for having premarital sex with his finance? Wow, ok!

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 6:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Yea that is pretty lame

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's a mormon university........i respect their moral integrity actually

if you watch film of this guy…..he’s a powerful runner………reminds me a little of priest holmes

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 21, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I respect moral integrity but come on. I can see it being considered a sin a religious

university but none of us are without sin. It was after all his finance and not some hooker or just some woman that he picked up. I guess so much for forgiveness.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of these religious schools are ridiculous

I guess they figure that since God forgives, that they don’t have to. They kick him outta school for pre-marital sex. Yet Notre Dame allows Weis to coach for all those lack-luster seasons. Go fig.

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Well they are two vastly different schools but I have seen first hand this sort

of moral judgement being made before and there is always a huge twinge of hypocrisy in the actions.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would not doubt that in the least

Far too often people contradict themselves to preserve a moral or social status. I find it hard to believe that no one at that school is active sexually without being married.

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Its like the case where the politician that it all about family values is

always the one that seems to be caught in the horrible sexual scandal. Its a college after all and if they threw out every kid caught sinning they soon would have not students.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my point exactly

You can’t expect people to be perfect. No one is. And trying to make an example out of a guy for having sex with his fiance is sensless, because you stand to lose more than you’d gain.

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

They only adopt "family values" positions

to cover up for the fact that they are anything but family values people…Unfortunately, many “values” voters are the biggest suckers around.

by snorky on Jun 21, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL So true.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

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by Alpha6 on Jun 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having attended a Christian school I also wonder where the “grace” is. However, you go in knowing the rules and the consequences. You commit to them by going to the school, ridiculous or not. If you don’t want to follow the rules then we can go somewhere else.

by christiandolfan on Jun 21, 2010 8:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know what your saying and like you I attended a private Christian school.

My issue is that some rules are not always in black and white and the way that they are administered are sometimes suspect at the very least.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

But on the phins… I hope we resign carpenter too. I like his leg. He’s made some big kicks for us.

by christiandolfan on Jun 21, 2010 8:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We will I am sure.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leg man?

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by Alpha6 on Jun 21, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leaving aside God and Jesus

(which I think Christian colleges do a lot of, which is why I did NOT want either of my kids going to one…even though I ran a Christian home school), one of the home school families near by sent a son to Bob Jones University—and proceeded to have his laptop stolen there! when I read he got kicked out of school because of premarital sex with his fiance (! heck if he’s gonna marry her it might be a sin but it sure isn’t criminal behavior!), I thought that’s ridiculous considering some Mormons have more than one wife to begin with!

by snorky on Jun 21, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Impressive

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by Alpha6 on Jun 21, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand that

But the concept is still a bit foreign to me

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

religion

cant have pre-marital sex…but back in the day it was a-ok to have 6-7 wives??? cant figure those morons out !!!

by paul wall on Jun 21, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another No Character Guy :)

lol….

just kidding.

So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.

by Fr8Train on Jun 21, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harvey Unga

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by Weecho85 on Jun 21, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

a nice highlight vid of his time at BYU

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by Weecho85 on Jun 21, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I for one hope we snatch him up. Love his running style, he seems like a real bruiser that doesn’t like to go down.

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by Weecho85 on Jun 21, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That kid.... looks phenomenal

I’d seriously be disappointed if he wasn’t acquired.

by Farorefox on Jun 22, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's light on his feet, but looks like he can still punish somebody when he runs into them.

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by Weecho85 on Jun 22, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check it...

Here’s some more info as I wrote before:

And remember, that’s a 240 pounder making the moves….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslHdkd9pD8

… 1,000 yards every year for three years. For a Fullback? And check the TDs. Receiving yards and TDs is also impressive. So yeah, I hope the Dolphins get this guy. Sporting News says a sixth or seventh round. He’s worth way more!

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by Alpha6 on Jun 22, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, here's the stat page...

http://www.byucougars.com/Profile.jsp?ID=2486

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by Alpha6 on Jun 22, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was a RB

and I think he should be kept at RB

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by Weecho85 on Jun 22, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

How far we have come from those years past.

From bottom to top just like that. Its the FO that made the change happen. They deserve the credit.

by labrat3105 on Jun 21, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

coudn't agree more

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saban

Saban can go to hell. I don’t like the state he left our team in, but I can’t say I wish he were still here either. The best thing he ever did (other than drafting Ronnie) was leaving town. If he hadn’t we wouldn’t be blessed with such a great FO, nor the young talent that’s emerging. It sucked at first, but everything happens for a reason. So I for one applaud his decision to haul ass. It’s given us a chance to be reborn, retooled, and rebuilt. As for his apology…..too little, too late.

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by inishe8 on Jun 21, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Signings

Great write up Matty. I will not comment on the Saban or Fornication subjects, only the signings. I am happy that we signed Fields. Considering many punters last for well over 10 years, Fields should only get better. I like Carpenter, I wish his kickoffs were longer, but he is solid on field goals. I wonder if the front office is going to try and push him with a Conner Barth type situation. Also, as well as being the best long snapper in the league, Denney has the team’s coolest hair other than Channing Crowder!

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!

by phatfinfan on Jun 21, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Crowder's hair is cool?

It looks like a flipping rat’s nest. I can’t even imagine what it smells like!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jun 21, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get how difficult it is to NOT misspell the name "S-a-t-a-n."

Good grief.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Jun 21, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Satan. Your are right, it is easy.

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by madcitydave on Jun 21, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an Alabama fan and a Dol-fan...

It was time of very mixed emotions for me when Saban was leaving Miami, but coming to my beloved Tide. I too winced when he said the infamous, “I am not going to be the next Alabama coach”, but I’m not going to pretend that I’m not thrilled that he’s here in Tuscaloosa. I realize that he made many mistakes in the way the team was managed and the way he left the fins. I know this will always be a sore spot in the dolphins history, but I’m also very glad that both of my teams seem to be moving in a very positive direction. Bama got their ring last year, now I need my Dolphins to get theirs this year!

Roll Tide and Go Finz!

by DesperadoJV on Jun 21, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

friction

"I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do."

by Tunaflipper on Jun 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warming lotion...

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by Alpha6 on Jun 21, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I feel unloved...

Not even a mention of the fact that I did a Fan Shot on the O-Line rankings…yesterday

Oh, and Saban IS a douche. Don’t apologize for stating a fact.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Jun 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn Matty layin down the THUNDER on Saban lol

and lol at…

He was kicked out of school for having premarital sex with his fiance.

niicccee…

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by BSerious72 on Jun 21, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

BYU -

Against Mormon beliefs.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Jun 21, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

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by Alpha6 on Jun 21, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that gives new meaning to the term "Richard Cranium"!

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet!

& circumcised!

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by Tunaflipper on Jun 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

... how come the balls are not in his face?

(and that sign in the background…. classic)

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by Alpha6 on Jun 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

the balls ARE his face!

and his breath smells of sulphur!

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by Tunaflipper on Jun 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAOOO

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by BSerious72 on Jun 21, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares what Saban says, why are we even noting it???

He does’nt deserve the publicity he is getting on this sight and I don’t think the majority care about an apology from him anyway. Go back to your freaking hillbilly college Saban your just like Spurrier……Can’t cut it in Pro Football !

Jimbo

by Dolphinator on Jun 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, if you are going to try and...

…denigrate an institution of higher learning, maybe you should work on your own vocabulary first. It is site, not sight and it is you’re not your.

As for the subject at hand, I understand some venom but both parties involved are better off now. You should be happy he left and give it up about his “lying”. You would have been pissed if he said “Yep, I think I am going to take that job offer.” FWIW, he had not had a formal meeting with UA officials when he made that statement and had told them they would have to wait to even talk with him. Could he have handled it differently, sure but I guess none of you have ever changed your mind about something when you saw it was to your benefit. I have seen some call him a horrible coach, maybe so as a NFL coach. There are very few who are good as both a college and a NFL coach, takes a different mindset to do the jobs. Don Shula may have sucked as a college head coach. Nick Saban is a helluva college coach.

Also, never forget, when you want to take a swipe at UA, if it weren’t for UA, the Phins may have had no real success. They were actively courting Coach Bryant and he was seriously considering the offer as he was in a down period at UA. He decided to stay, reinvented himself and solidified his legacy at UA. He was asked to make a recommendation for a new head coach for Miami, he suggested Don Shula.

I am not interested in getting into a debate or internet shouting match over this. I am simply pointing a few things out that you may or may not take to heart. I honestly do not care about the NFL, so I doubt I will be posting here much. If you really want to argue with me, come over to the SBN BAMA site, RollBamaRoll.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jun 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yet the NCAA is going to make a rule based on Saban and his A-Hole way of conducting himself.

If your willing to dance with the devil for a trophy then fine but the man turns my stomach not for what he pulled in Miami but for the sorry human being that he is.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 24, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

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by Zoltar on Jun 24, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well said.

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by Alpha6 on Jun 24, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTR

That rule was created because he found a loophole and exploited it. He did nothing against any rules. Some people whined because they didn’t think of it first, so they made a a rule. Please, do not lecture us as a Canes fan unless you will willingly give up any of the trophies you won prior to this century. There was a ton of corruption around the Canes in the 80’s and 90’s. Luther was slinging cash like he was at the strip club.

As for the sorry human being that Saban is, I guess that explains all the money he gives to charity or the charities he has helped setup…that sorry SOB. I will never deny that he is a bit mad but he recruits like a madman, develops players like a mad scientist and he graduates players like a mad professor.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jun 24, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

By exploiting the rule all he did is exploit kids. Thats wrong no matter how much

the winy Bama fans try and make excuses for it. We are not talking about cash being thrown around. Hell that happens at ever major university only its usually a lot more than one person doing it.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh, I see

I thought you were talking about the “Saban” rule or Bump rule. You are now spouting the Michigan nonsense about oversigning. It happens at all the SEC schools, he is nowhere near the worst, just the one the Michigan blowhards went after(I wonder why, maybe because he was the HC at MSU at one time). Houston Nutt at Ole Miss signed like 36 one year, that was the real genesis of the SEC 28 rule. He came into a team that was in disarray and had some losers on the squad, he kicked them off when they broke the law and team rules. He hasn’t had to boot anyone in the last year and we have garnered no points in the Fulmer Cup. He has not ran off any players that wanted to be at BAMA and each signing class has gotten smaller as he has now stocked the cupboard. I expect he will end up signing about 20-22 this year(6-8 under the maximum).

If you are talking about the Bump rule, how did it hurt any players? If they didn’t sign with BAMA, it was just a few moments of their time. If they did, they probably like it here, if not they can transfer.

I am sorry that he wasn’t a good coach for Miami, again, rarely are they good in college and NFL. College is recruiting and developing players. NFL is signing and trading players, there isn’t much development left to do and they don’t take too well to being yelled at. For your own peace of mind, I am simply saying, what is the big deal, everyone came out better in the long run, what does it matter.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jun 24, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

first off we are not saying anything about your school in general.. and it has been said that he is a much better collage coach then a pro coach. and YES the best thing he ever did was leave. my thing is with him is the lie and yes it was a lie regardless. when someone says they are NOT going to do something then turn around and do it. that is a lie. and i HATE liers even mroe show when all he preached about is being up front and honest and haveing pride and all those things and then to turn around and do the total opposit burned my arse.

so since yo uclaim you dont care about the nfl at all then i ask you why the heck you are even here and care at all about what we think?

you love him then dude by all means fine it is your choice but dont come here and dog us for our chices in how we feel about him. oh and go ahead and pick on my typing.. i am use to it and it dont bother me in the least.. just shows how low you would go to attack others.

now if yo uwould be so kind as to take ya butt back to your own site and leave us be.

as my great grand pappy use to say: there is nothing worse then a closed minded person who tries to push his beliefs on others.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen, It wasn't meant as an attack but you made a comment...

…about UA being a “hillbilly college”. Have you ever heard the one about “Glass houses”?

FTR, how many coaches have to “lie” when they are considering another job. The media keeps asking the same question over and over. At the time, he wasn’t headed here, he changed his mind. He made a poor choice of words when being hounded, he has admitted as much. This does not equal a lie. By definition a lie is when you tell something you know to be untrue. Changing your mind does not qualify. He didn’t leave in the middle of the night. He met with Wayne and with the players informing them that he was leaving. I know what really burns your asses, is that he left OMG Miami for a lowly college team that has about 10 times the trophies, tradition and passion as the Phins. I mean, if you were the Steelers or Cowboys, maybe a bit more shock would be warranted.

/WAR DAMMIT, I BRING WAR.

Seriously, if y’all want to whine about it, feel free. I am just having some fun anyway.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Jun 24, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saban is just a loser

He can never admit he was wrong.

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by dave4fifo on Jun 21, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the many things that is wrong with our society

This country is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too uptight about Sex.(thanks Puritans)

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by Patssuck456 on Jun 21, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

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by texascowpunk on Jun 22, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

So when's the crisco party?

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by Alpha6 on Jun 22, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by texascowpunk on Jun 22, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a really large scarlet letter.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 23, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even the visually impaired....

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 23, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

EveR throw a pass out to polite in the flat in madden?

He catches it every time and gets usually 8+ yards. That just proves that everyone knows polite is the man.

by crf163 on Jun 21, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

actually yes...he is good...........you know what else.....chris clemons stinks in the game

sign oj

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 22, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Daunte Culpepper instead of Drew Brees?

don’t get me wrong I am no Saban fan – but I don’t have a hatred for him. He lied he bolted – I am totally over it. The way I look at it the Dolphins would not be this far along if he stayed. He was not made to be an NFL HC and he knew it. I certainly don’t want a guy that doesn;t want the job or is looking for the next best thing.

The Culpepper versus Brees is an obvious no brainer right now – but at the time almost everyone thought Miami was making the right move with Culpepper. As a matter of fact I don’t remember a single media person that was advocating Brees over Culpepper. BUt now after Brees wins a super bowl with New Orleans EVERYONE wants to jump on this “what if” bandwagon.

Back then everyone was saying QB with bad kneee versus bad shoulder? Seriously does anyone remember reading anywhere that MIami should have gone with Brees before they played thier first game with thier new teams?

Of course hind site being 20/20 we know that we were all wrong. BUt I am really tired of it being brought up like “what if Brees versus Culpepper” well hell – how easy is it to point that out now?

 What about Patrick Willis versus Ginn? – we could look at every draft and find a guy that was drafted later and panned out better.

okay I’m done – end rant.

by scrappy the wildcat on Jun 22, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, Belichick once said that one mistake doesn't kill a team...

it’s a series of mistakes (bad decisions) over time that kills a team.

I’ve considered that quite a bit and believe the truth of it. For instance Jamarcus Russell:
1. Drafting him was a bad idea – there were plenty of warning flags.
2. Giving him the ball before he was ready was another bad idea, regardless of how much you pay the guy.
3. Continuing to place your hopes in him when he shows no signs of improvement, is strike number three and you’re out.

Saban at best did nothing to help the Dolphins, and at worst hurt them. It’s not like they would have turned the corner with him at the helm. Good riddance.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 23, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ya good riddance with a size 15 shoe up his backside!

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 23, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

backside = ass!

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by Alpha6 on Jun 23, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Thanks for the definition there Alpha.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 23, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good observation SMP...

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by Alpha6 on Jun 23, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, after a long series of bad decisions, it takes a pretty long series of good decisions to get back.

Fortunately for you guys, the Tuna makes a lot of good decisions.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 23, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the new FO for any franchise knows what they are doing it takes somewhere in the

3 to 4 year range to rebuild a team with few good players.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 23, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are way ahead of the curve.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 24, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. But just as a general recipe for turning a team around. Even with the

Phins I know that we will be much better this year. May even nudge past the Pats for the division but still need another year for some of the rookies and young guys to get up to speed and maybe add another piece or two before we are where I would like us to be.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on the 3-4 years, but as you said that is contingent on the FO being smart

and depends upon how far down the previous administration dragged you.

If they hang a bunch of useless high priced FA’s around your neck/salary cap, etc. It can take awhile to untangle from those contracts and free up cap space to fix the team. That can add a year or two.

As I recall, you didn’t have too much of that, and Parcells is smarter than average. So the prognosis is especially good.

The Dolphins are right in the thick of the division. I like your draftees and had some of them lined up for the Pats to take.

The Pat’s have many more offensive weapons than last year, and in looking for the final 53 roster, am in the happy/regretable position of having to cut too many good players to get there.

The Jets may be all show and no go, or they could legitimately be the team to beat as well.

The East is a Beast this year, and I’m looking forward to it.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 24, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree but this uncapped year certainly helped this FO to dump some of

that dead weight.

As far as offensive weapons more is always better but you also can only throw the ball/hand off to so many people.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 24, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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