Ronnie Brown wants long-term deal, but will not hold out
As I'm sure you all know, Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown is yet to sign his restricted free agent tender. As the Palm Beach Post explains, there really isn't a deadline for Ronnie to sign it. He isn't affected by the ability teams now have to reduce their offer to unsigned restricted free agents. Therefore, there's no rush for Ronnie to sign the one-year offer on the table.
Needless to say, Ronnie isn't signing it because he wants a long-term deal - unlikely as it is. But Brown made it clear on Tuesday that he is not planning a training camp hold-out by any means. Brown told the Sun-Sentinel:
"I got a lot of work to do, especially if we're going to go to the Super Bowl."
"There's nothing dramatic. It's not like anyone's expecting me to hold out. It's a few knickknack things. There's language [issues]. I plan on signing it. It's not a big deal. We're just talking about some things. Obviously I'd like to get something [long term] done, but there's nothing dramatic."
This should ease the minds of some Dolphin fans who were beginning to think Ronnie might be planning a hold-out, something a number of players around the league seem to be planning this offseason. Brown even made it a point to say that "there's not any tension either way."
With that said, I don't see the Dolphins giving in and offering Ronnie any long-term deal at this point. He's coming off of another serious injury and is nearing the dreaded 30 year old plateau that running backs fear (Ricky Williams excluded, of course).
If you were running the Dolphins, would you offer Brown a long-term contract this offseason? Or would you take the wait-and-see approach that this front office is likely going to take?
157 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Matty just all over FPing and posting right now....
Good stuff!
And, as for Ronnie, depends on what he considers “long term.” I may give him an incentive filled 3-year contract, but that’s about the extent of what I woud look at right now.
****Keeper of the Phinsider Goo Cannon****
Winner of 5 Matty Awards
2010 Joe Robbie Memorial Hall of Fame Inductee - thephinsider.com
My New General Sports Blog - Check it out!!
by Kevin Nogle on Jun 15, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah thats what I was thinking. Something maybe 3 or 4 years with the final year being voidable
and loaded with incentives.
Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on Jun 15, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at 29 years old
3 years is long enough to last through his prime
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
The end of this year
is long enough to last through his prime.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
chill
Ronnie has a good 3 years left in him, and he has more value to us
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
Ronnie has a good 3 years left in him
lol, BS.
He has this year left to make his mark, and if he doesn’t play all 16 games this year, you DEFINTELY do not sign him.
If he stays in the league, history has proven he won’t finish 3 straight years, so that is (in my opinion) not likely. But we all know LT old @ss is gonna break out for the Jets this years don’t we?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
you must have lost your mind
First of all lets get one thing clear Ronnie Brown is our best running back. Injuries are apart of the game so we don’t know what the future holds health wise, but what I do know is that 12 games of Ronnie Brown is better than Lex Hilliard or any other body we have (exception Ricky but hes 33 himself and proved this year he will only wear down when you give him the bulk of carries)
And are you really comparing this situation to LT? LT is clearly washed up, throughout his whole career all he did was carry the load and it has taken its toll on him.He lost a step and it will soon be time to hang em up.
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No, my mind is still up there
but what I do know is that 12 games of Ronnie Brown is better than Lex Hilliard or any other body we have
No arguements there. thats why we DRAFT a stud and move on. I haven’ read anything that says we have to keep this same group of RBs for the next 3 years.
LT is clearly washed up, throughout his whole career all he did was carry the load and it has taken its toll onYes. and throughout Ronnie’s career he has constantly gotten hurt and missed games. I’m talking chucks of games. And they will take their toll on him as well.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
ummm
Yes. and throughout Ronnie’s career he has constantly gotten hurt and missed games. I’m talking chucks of games. And they will take their toll on him as well.
Ronnie isnt washed up, when healthy he plays like one of the best in the league, now when LTs healthy he plays like a 30 year old man with athritis
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
key words
“when healthy” and he doesn’t play like one of the best in the league. He’s not an elite back.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronnie may not be AP or CJ2K
but he is one hell of a back and he is definitely in the upper half of running backs in the league
as for the healthy part, hes injury prone and its unfortunate
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
upper half isn't close to elite
you’re talking about 10-12 backs being better than him, including one on his own team IMO
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes Good as hell
thats all i know
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
2 of the past 3 years he has been the IR MVP
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
what about Pennington?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Runner up
But he is putting himself in prime position for this year’s award though.-)
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
jake grove?
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Channing Crowder
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronnie isnt washed up, when healthy he plays like one of the best in the league
Yea and when Ronnie is hurt he plays like I do sitting on the couch.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
with himself?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
(copyright, Alpha6, 2010, all rights reserved)
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
... weeped with laughter at work!
Co-workers stopping by, checking to see if I is alright….
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Well by now they should know that your not.
Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on Jun 16, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe -)
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
i think Ronnie hurt is beter than you on the couch
hell Ronnie is hurt right now, and he beat Ricky in a race
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he gets as much yards on IR as I do sitting in the bar watching the game
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
or anyone else thats watching the game for that matter
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
IMO
Ricky is the better back.. He has been for the last 2 seasons.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i think Ricky is too but they both compliment each other very well
because even at 33 Ricky can take it the distance while Ronnie cant
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
they are a nice complement
but IMO Ricky is better in every aspect of the game except for (maybe) pass catching.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha that too
neither of them should be throwing passes though
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
chill Ronnie can throw
and hes left handed so he takes defenses of guard
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he can throw
a lot of people can throw.. doesn’t mean they sohuld
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea c'mon
How many passes has Ronnie actually thrown on the WC formation?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
he's 4-10 with 2 TD's
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
who probably shouldn't be throwing it either lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
much less drafted by us. Still don’t understand that pick./
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
I'm willing to give him another year
to see what he can amount to. The guy was very good in college, but he was very obviously not prepared for the NFL last year. He has a pretty unique skillset, similar to guys like Brad Smith and Seneca Wallace, who have helped teams by being versatile.. I’m not so much against picking him as I am against the way he’s been utilized.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just don't see where he fits in is all
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
I really think he could help us in the return game
as our 5th WR. He brings a whole new dimension to the game if he’s lined up in the slot, especially if you have him running around on reverses..
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he won't play anywhere but QB
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
then he's not gonna play
I don’t see him being successful as a traditional QB
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
not only has Ricky been better, but in typical fashion, Ronnie has been unable to stay on the field.
Yet in 2 years I doubt either Ronnie or Ricky is on the team anymore.
They’ll draft someone next season. RB is, as far as skill positions, probably the easiest to fill.
agreed
we were able to find two pretty good backs late in the first Parcells draft, so it’s not difficult. Especially behind a mammoth line and with the anticipated killer passing game…
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed +2
hello my peeps
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
ckc is up and running
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see u and LN as well
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
rare to have all three of us in the same thread lately lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Matty did this on purpose
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
he missed us
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
LOL
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
the end of last year might have got the job done
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What the H*ll are you guys thinking?
Three yrs to a 29 yr old RB that has missed close to half to the season 2 of the past 3 years. Not to mention every football fan know 95% of RBs hit the wall at age 30. Please don’t bring up Ricky Williams he is the exception.
A 29 yr old injury prone RB that can’t make it through an entire season want sa long term deal? Please. He gets a 2 year deal with the 2nd year being team voidable.
My guess? He plays this years and we draft a RB next year and Ronnie is shown his way out just like so many before him. We have gotten younger at EVERY POSITION. Not even the “legendary JT” can avoid it. What makes you think Ronnie will be the exception? He won’t.
Bottom Line:
We we have a new backfield come next year..Maybe (maybe) one stays on as a backup.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
Thus the reason we said an incentive heavy contract.
If you are not in to the guy for a ton of money then you can cut your losses at any point.
Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on Jun 15, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If he wants another year ok
other than that move on. I’m tired of not havning him down the stretch, if its his fault or not. get that young stud in there that can grow w/ Henne, Marshall, Bess, that line, and the “revamped defense”. Move on.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
Like I said if all the money is in incentives then you can cut him loose at any time.
Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on Jun 15, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Young stud
I´m all pro young stud, but Ronnie is great, no ego, no diva, works hard, and loves the team. He should really retire here, even if it´s in a backup role
If he wants
take it year by year with incentives and let him back up the stud. Yea, Ronnie is a good guy, no ego, all that you said.
But Ronnie is also injury prone and rides the bench when we need him the most..
We can argue if it is his fault that he keeps getting hurt or not. But somebody want to argue with me that we would had ALOT better chance of making the playoffs last year if Ronnie hadn’t gotten hurt AGAIN and was riding the pine down the stretch…again. Yes I know about our defense, but Ronnie going down change ur entire offense.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
young stud
Having a young stud first rounder, and ronnie and ricky backing up would be AWSOME!!! Also I believe Ricky could be a great mentor aswell
You don't need a damn young stud to "grow" in there.....
A RB doesn’t grow like a WR, QB, or even LT does. Run Ronnie as hard as you can for three more years. If he can’t perform, he doesn’t get the incentives in his contract, and you owe him less.
Why the immediate personal attacks on making sure that the guy is really washed up before you cut him loose? I mean, what is it hurting to have him on the roster? If we get the next Marshal Faulk or LT or Berry Sanders, then that guy starts and Ronnie is the backup, and doesn’t get the incetives, so therefore not that expensive.
I really don’t understand your 100% commetment to having to get rid of a running back who has proven he can contribute to the team. Even if it’s not for 16 games, fuck it, use him for 12 or 13, and then use Ricky for 3-4. If it’s more than that, use Ricky and Lex.
I just think you need to calm down on your immediate reaction to flaming everyone just because they want to keep a guy on the team.
****Keeper of the Phinsider Goo Cannon****
Winner of 5 Matty Awards
2010 Joe Robbie Memorial Hall of Fame Inductee - thephinsider.com
My New General Sports Blog - Check it out!!
by Kevin Nogle on Jun 15, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ronnie doesn't have 3 more years
he’s also making 2nd overall pick money, and will undoubtedly want another big money deal. Do you really think he’ll sign on for a 1 year, all incentive contract? Would you if you were him, being the 2nd overall pick and having a pro bowl season under your belt? I think not.
Ronnie is gonna walk in FA after this year, and we’ll draft a guy to fill the role. IMO, he should’ve been traded in either of the last 2 offseasons, because he’s not a long-term answer, and we’re not going to get anything for him when he’s done here. He’s not elite, and he’s not that hard to replace, considering 33 year old Ricky replaced him last year just fine up until the final 2 games when his legs wore down. Bottom line is we are going to need a back next year, and we’re going to need two new backs by 2012, guaranteed.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
he doesn’t have 3 years, heck, he might not have 2 years.
Forget the 3 year deal.
If he gets anything past 1 year, then you can bet the dolphins (or whomever signs him) will ensure that there’s basically no guaranteed money beyond the first year.
Right on
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
You are making too much sense
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
sorry
“John Beck is awesome”
better? lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Matty is that you
Cam?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
damn!
ya got me..
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right
He doesn’t need to grow, he can just get in there and Bam. Kinda like the Boys did with Aikman, Irvin and Smith.
Why the immediate personal attacks
Whats personal about saying a 29 yr old man is old for a RB (which it is) and saying he has been injury prone over the course of his career (which he has).?
I really don’t understand your 100% commetment to having to get rid of a running back who has proven he can contribute to the team. Even if it’s not for 16 games, fuck it, use him for 12 or 13,
Because I’m thinking postseason too. I said he can stay and backup the young stud, but I don’t trust him as my primary back.
I just think you need to calm down on your immediate reaction to flaming everyone just because they want to keep a guy on the team.
I think YOU just need t chill, just because I’m not going along with the “feel good flow” doesn’t mean I’m “flaming”. I’m stating my opinion. Know the difference.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
I apologize for the first part....
I read two comments that when put together seemed like you were attacking other commentors. Going back and looking at it now, the second comment that I thought was yours wasn’t, so I take back my question about the personal attacks.
I didn’t say he needs to be our primary back. I said keep him on the roster. If you make the incentives right, and he can perform as a primary back, great. If he can’t, then by all means, use him as a backup and find someone who can.
Why is that wrong?
And, Natalya, I doubt he has 3 years left too….but if he simply breaks down, cut him and move on.
And, Nicky, you’re right. Maybe a #2 guy won’t sign the incentive laden deal. But, if not, then he either doesn’t play, or he plays for his tender.
****Keeper of the Phinsider Goo Cannon****
Winner of 5 Matty Awards
2010 Joe Robbie Memorial Hall of Fame Inductee - thephinsider.com
My New General Sports Blog - Check it out!!
no worries
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
i love the character of our team
all the diva’s are gone. just concentrate on winning.
"My ego is not that big. . . . I just want to win." - Dwyane Wade
by Davone_Is_BessT on Jun 15, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I dispute that. A diva is someone like TO and not a guy that has had some run ins with the law.
Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on Jun 15, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Intentionally batting balls down in practice is a Diva
if that’s not diva then what is? (besides TO); but like most of us, i hope (and think) Marshall is no longer the diva he once was
Well hopefully that was just a sign of immaturity. It seems as if he has learned
some lessons the hard way and has grow up a bit.
Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on Jun 15, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what divas?
The only “diva” we had was Joey Porter, besides its nice to have some players wit swag
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 15, 2010 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
IMO
i consider JT a diva as well… in his last couple of years
"My ego is not that big. . . . I just want to win." - Dwyane Wade
by Davone_Is_BessT on Jun 15, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's got to know if he wants to stay in Miami
Adding contractual problems isnt the way to go.. Finish a season and we’ll see what we can do
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
PAY THAT MAN!!!!
Prime.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
It's got to be incentives...
I agree with the 3 year incentive deal.
He hasn’t proven he can stay healthy, so why would they give him the big contract?
I have said before though, the fins will really be hurting if they lose both backs (Ricky and Ronnie) at the same time. I woul love for them to extend at least one of them another year, but IMO would rather it be Ricky.
Then use a high draft choice (#1) this year on a Running Back. After all it is a run first team.
Does not seem like he is diva bound here yet.. I have been imressed with Marshall so far.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !
I like Ronnie
And to be honest I understand why he wants a long term deal. Especially as brittle as he is. But his character and leadership is a great reason to re sign him. But he needs to not ask more than what he is receiving up to maybe 15% increase. FYI I wouldnt mind get Vincent jackson over here either. I think that would be crazy. yeah yeah I know, no reason to, but it would just be funny if we got him. My goodness. Our running game would disappear, lol
3-4 yeamncs,x
"you owe it to yourself to be the best in baseball and in life" Pete rose.
F the jets, bills, patriots and cryboys...and sooners, but go phins, longhorns, dodgers and stanford!
by dolger14 on Jun 15, 2010 11:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Phinsider's Resident Chef
by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 15, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This shows what a class act Ronnie is.
Personally though, I wouldn’t sign him to anything long-term unless he stays healthy this year. But if he does I say pay the man. I hope he retires a dolphin.
I would expect him to be offered a deal like the one Crowder got
2009 NY Phin PhansFantasy League Champion
2009 Best Regular Season Record in NYPPL.
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
""It only ends once. Everything that comes before is just progress"
I really like Ronnie as a person. but i think he is gone after this year and its gonna be a sad day when he leaves.
but at least we’ll getsome shiny new RB’s next year in the draft.
by phinfan20 on Jun 15, 2010 11:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sadly...
The situation as it stands only benefits the FO, signing Ronnie to any other contract is a risk that they can’t take from a smart business standpoint.
First and foremost, Ronnie has never been a solo act. He’s part of a 2-headed monster. He needs a second RB to compliment him and take at least 1/3 of his snaps each game. Just from that fact alone, its difficult to see Miami throwing gobs of cash over a longer period of time at him. (Granted, the 2 back approach is something that a lot of teams now do. But why pay a guy “feature back money” if he is only doing half of the work? You gotta find another guy of equal calibur with maybe different attributes. That said, you’d want to split the difference of the feature back money between the two rather than pay both starters money).
Second is his age but even moreso his injuries. The guy rarely sees injuries that remove him for a game or two…he suffers season-enders. The concern is durability. Nobody is doubting his toughness, but at nearly 30, you have to be concerned that his injury history will catch up sooner rather than later and slow him down.
Miami benefits from having Ronnie play out the year so they can evaluate him. Either way, given Ricky’s age and likely retirement, they have to address RB either way next off-season. Ronnie isn’t a prototype Parsells RB when you are honest about it. There could be an overhaul coming from the RB position next season.
I love Ronnie and would love to see him get a longer term deal, but the facts don’t help him out. His best option at this point is to play the whole season, be as productive and important as always. Doing this will either sway Miami to signing him up for a few more years, or at worst, make him valuable in the free agency market next year.
The only other thing I see Miami doing is maybe a 2 year deal that is front loaded and can be voided if he falls short again this season, or language can also ensure Ronnie getting the deal extended and improved as long as he meets certain expectations. Anything longer and more lucrative would be a show of loyalty by the team, which is admirable, but I suspect that Miami would have made that move long before now if that were the case.
I think us Ronnie fans should just hope for him to have a great season so he can sway the team to want to keep him around.
He is a classy guy. Signing that tender shows a lot of loyalty and faith and MY hope is that the team rewards him for it. I just don’t think it’ll be this off-season.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father reeked of elderberries. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.
I'd give him a 4 year back loaded "fair" base with hefty incentives
that way you only pay for actual production.
by buttonmashersrhilarious on Jun 16, 2010 4:25 AM EDT reply actions
Lets hope he stays healthy
If he can stay healthy for a full season and produce all season……he’ll get a deal…I’d be willing to guess, that the powers to be want to see how he does this season….I didn’t realize that bascially all the RB’s are unsigned after this season……interesting…maybe that’ll promote some serious production from the majority of them this season…..
If we sign Ronnie to a long term deal
It had better be for average type of money. He hasn’t earned Elite money, he hasn’t really even earned Good Money in my opinion. You might over pay for a halfback, but NOT for half a back…..
He’s a team guy, a class act, and a plays with heart….. but that doesn’t earn you a big paycheck.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Please Ronnie deserves some good money
but it has to be incentive based, and Gibril Wilson plays with heart, Ronnie is an actual talent that plays with heart. You act like hes some guy that tries hard but just isnt good enough, Ronnie is one of the best
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 16, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronnis is NOT one of the best....
The best stay on the field for 16 games
the best continue to produce all season long
the best can be counted on late in the season to come thru in a clutch.
Ronnie is none of those things….because he’s injured.
Its a bad argument, when your argument starts with “When he’s not injured he’s…..”
Look, I am the best sales guy in my division. But If I didn’t come to work for 3 months out of the year….I’d lose my contract. Ronnie is in the exact same boat.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
You sell drilldos?
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I can sell anything.....
However, I’m an Insurance & Financial guy.
(ie, Car Insurance, Home Insurance, Life Insurance, IRAs, Annuities, Stocks, Bonds, etc)
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
lol....ahhh :)
Put me in a Victoria Secret, I’ll sell the ass out of some thongs! lol
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
lmao
i could only image the beautiful girls that walk through that store everyday mmmmm smh
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
On a side note...
Also imagine the NOT so beautiful, or the gravity challenged girls that come in to buy some thongs……ugh
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
ewww.... damn i just got a mental pic of that
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
I would settle for just getting some ass out of a thong
If ur sellin, ur pimpin….
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
HELLLO
talent wise Ronnie is one of the best running backs in the league, his durability has nothing to do with his talent because when he is on the field he produces, if you remember back in 07’ it was Ronnie that was on pace to break Marshall Faulks 2000 yard record
the best produce when on the field
the best can be counted on late in the game for a clutch performance
the best rarely fumble
sure Ronnie has been injured alot but there is no denying his talent
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
Your argument is flawed DB.....I'm sorry
the best produce when on the field
If a season lasted 8-10 games, Ronnie would be Elite. It doesn’t, its a 16 game season, and players that only last half the season can not be considered Elite. You realize, he’s already on the downside of his career. And he has completed ONE SINGLE SEASON, in his ENTIRE career.
Name any other “Elite” player, in any other sport, that couldn’t consistently finish more than 3/4th of a season, and was considered Elite….. You can’t.
He has talent, but when the talent is on the bench, what exactly is it good for? nothing, other than to have people say, “Oh yeah, he’s talented…..”
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Right
Hey Duece
if you remember back in 07’ it was Ronnie that was on pace to break Marshall Faulks 2000 yard record
Why again didn’t he break it?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
He broke something else.....
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I think Ronnie sprained his eye reading this blog....
He’d have replied himself, but broke a finger trying to type.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Ronnie "Peanut Brittle" Brown
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Alright
Name any other "Elite" player, in any other sport, that couldn’t consistently finish more than 3/4th of a season, and was considered Elite….. You can’t.
Ronnie has consistently finished 3/4ths of a season all but 2 seasons, 07’ when he tore his acl and 09’ when he broke his foot (which was a freak injury).
You realize, he’s already on the downside of his career. And he has completed ONE SINGLE SEASON, in his ENTIRE career.
Actually I realized Ronnie hasn’t shown any downside as of yet, and heres a list of ELITE runningbacks and how many times they have finished a 16 game season
Frank Gore 1
Steven Jackson 1
Brian Westbrook 0
Michael Turner 3 (and he was a backup most of his career)
Marshawn Lynch 0
Willie Parker 1
da da da dadadadada……
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
C'mon Omar....I mean Deuce :)
Gore has never played less than 14 games, and only has 1 season (his rookie season) where has less than 1,000 yards.
Jackson, only has 1 season (his rookie season) where he had less than 1,000 yards.
Westbrook is the closest comparison, but if you factor in his receiving yards he crushes Ronnie in all aspects of production.
Turner – Only 2 years as a starter, and his first year as a starter his 1,699 yards is almost 700 yards more than Ronnie’s best year.
Lynch – Not even in the Elite back consideration…but even he has two 1,000 yard seasons out of 3…. much higher average than Ronnie.
Parker – three 1,200+ yard seasons, in as many years as Ronnie
Sooooooo….. How is it that these elite backs can way out produce Ronnie? because most of them are on the field more than Ronnie. Most of them missed 1-2 games a season, not 4-6 like Ronnie
Ronnie has played in 75% of the games he was eligible for since he was in the NFL. So, take Ronnie out of the 4th quarter of every game he’s ever played in….. thats not being there when the teams needs you. Thats the equivalent.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
C'mon Omar...i mean Fr8 :)
2005 in his rookie year not only did Ronnie Brown hold out but he also shared duties with Ricky Williams and still managed to total 907 yards
2006 When Ricky was suspended Ronnie had the workload to himself putting up 1,008 yards on the season
2007 Ricky is still suspended therefore Ronnie didn’t have to share duties and was leading the league with 602 yards through 7 games before tearing his acl on some dumb trick play.
2008 Ronnie is coming off of acl surgery and is sharing duties with Ricky Williams and still manages to put up 916 yards
2009… you know the rest
So guys like Gore, Turner, and Jackson that you say outproduced Ronnie were the #1 backs on their teams and did not have to share duties.
So, take Ronnie out of the 4th quarter of every game he’s ever played in….. thats not being there when the teams needs you.
Really? take Ronnie out all the 4th quarters hes ever played in? Really?
that doesn’t even make any sense
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
Ronnie has played exactly 75% of the games.
60 games out of the 80 games he’s been in the league.
thats exactly 3 quarters of the game…..so its like him not playing at all in the 4th quarter of any game he’s ever been in.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
No its not
That’s 3 quarters of the number of games not the number of quarters hes played in the game.
so its like him not playing at all in the 4th quarter of any game he’s ever been in.
No its not, in EVERY game Ronnie has played in he has played in the 4th quarter (unless it was a blowout or somethin’) So to take it away from him is the dumbest thing you could possibly say.
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
You aren't getting the point DB.
Look at it like this. His career is a game. 4 quarters.
He’ s only played in the first 3 quarters of the game…and missed the last quarter.
Break it down more, and its like he only plays 3 quarters of every game.
Any idiot realizes that I am not saying he DIDN’T actually play in a 4th quarter….. I’m using it as an example, to more clearly show exactly how much time he’s missed playing. The amount of time he’s missed playing, is exactly similar to if he had missed playing in the 4th quarter of every game…. EXACTLY.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
that's how YOU can look at it
and no one said that you said Ronnie didn’t actually play in the 4th quarter of the games hes played in…. but you would have to be an idiot to use that as an example.
that’s just dumb
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
1356 yds, that is what Brown was on track for in 2007
He also was great in the receiving aspect that year.
Note to self: Read the fanshots!
-Pulse of the Maggots- P.o.t.M.
Driving the Evan Royster and Allen Bradford Rock 'N Roll Train!
Mosul, check it out! http://www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
"On track for"????
Jesus, really? Thats your argument?
I was on track to play in the NFL…. I just had multiple ACL’s in HS.
I was on track to make millions in the .com market…..until it bust.
I was on track to marrying an A list actress….until she moved to Vancouver….
None of them are legitimate argument. Because it doesn’t matter what you were ON TRACK FOR, it matters, what you DID. Marshall Faulk didn’t set that record because he was ON TRACK FOR IT. Barry Sanders didn’t rush for that many yards, because of anything he was ON TRACK FOR…. Peyton Manning doesn’t win multiple MVP’s because he was ON TRACK FOR them…. They get there, because they do it.
You don’t know what he was on track for. Plain and simple. Because he didn’t play in the rest of those games….. you don’t know. What we do know, is that he accumulated the grand total of ZERO yards, rushing, passing, receiving, returning, blocking, intercepting, kicking, punting….all in the game she sat on the bench injured.
Noone cares what you are ON TRACK FOR.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Its called projection thats not a rarity in sports
If i rushed for 50 yards in the first half of a game the announcer will say, he’s on pace for a 100 yard game.
But lets talk about what he DID do. Ronnie Brown DID lead the league in rushing through the first 7 games in 2007.
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
Yes, lets talk about what he DID do....
How did he finish up in 2007?
35th in the League.
behind, Elite backs like Jerious Norwood, Ron Dayne, Travis Henry, Kenny Watson, and Maurice Morris.
I bet he walks around telling himself all about those projections. I think he even has a League Leading Projection Trophy on his mantle.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
35th in the league huh?..thats pretty impressive considering he did that with a torn acl
35th in the League.
behind, Elite backs like Jerious Norwood, Ron Dayne, Travis Henry, Kenny Watson, and Maurice Morris.
Oh you left out Cedric Benson too, and that’s funny because Norwood only had 10 more yards than Brown and he played a full season, not to mention none of those guys you listed had more than 88 yards on Brown. I’m just going to assume that was a joke
I think he even has a League Leading Projection Trophy on his mantle.
that was hilarious
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
DB
You can’t call Ronnie an Elite back in 2007 when he didn’t perform like an elite back in 2007.
Noone cares how you do for half the season, it matters what you do at the end of the season. If Usain Bolt came in 35th in a 100m race, but he was leading at the 50m mark, does it matter? no, he’s still ranked 35th in that race.
No matter how you try to spin it, you can’t get back the fact, that he isn’t now, nor has he ever been a top 10 back in this league. There is no arguing that DB. Because he didn’t perform like one. Ever. Period.
Did he have great games. Yes. But Elite backs have great seasons, and Ronnie has never done that.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
I didnt call him an elite back in
07…i just stated the facts he led the league in rushing through 7 games before he tore his acl, say whatever you want but he was on pace for a hell of a season.
I never said he was a top 10 back in the league, and its unfortunate that hes hasnt been able to put a full season together for health reasons but hes definitely a guy i want on my team.
and looking at our running backs (with the exception of 33 year old Ricky) its not really impressive and id take Ronnie over hilliard, Cobbs, and any other camp body we have any day. Now with that said he is 29 so until we draft a stud to take over for him and Ricky I’m ridin with Ronnie all the way
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 16, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Say whatever you want.
He didn’t finish the year in the top 30 in the league, and not just that year. The only time he ever even cracked the top 20 in RB rushing, was
in 2008. Every single other year, he’s finished out of the top 20.
So I don’t care what we think his ability might be. I don’t care if he was on pace for a million yards after one season…the fact is, consistently he’s in the bottom 10 of starting RB’s IN THE LEAGUE.
There is no argument to make that you can make, that can turn him into an Elite back. There is no argument that you can make that can make him a dependable back.
I’m not saying we need to cut Ronnie. I would have traded him away if anyone wanted him for a 2nd or 3rd maybe. But this whole thing is about signing him to a long term deal…. The ONLY way I do that, is if he takes average RB money. otherwise, I let him walk, and draft his replacement.
Year End NFL Ranking:
2005 – 20th
2006 – 23rd (the only season he broke 1,000 yards)
2007 – 35th
2008 – 19th
2009 – 33rd
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
ok
2005 was his rookie year where he was a hold out, oh and we had this guy by the name of Ricky Williams taking the bulk of the carries.
2006 His lone year where he was the #1 and he rushed for over 1,000
2007 like i said before he was leading the league in rushing trough the 1st 7 games before tearing his acl.
2008 he was coming off acl surgery and was splitting time with Ricky Williams
2009 Broke foot on freak accident
So…. he wasnt even the #1 back as a rookie, had season ending injuries in both 07’ and 09’
he was coming off acl surgery in 08’
and in 06’ when he was the #1 guy he broke 1,000 , not to mention 22 other running backs broke 1,000 that year which was the highest if the decade so being 23rd wasn’t as bad as it seemed
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 16, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Deuce.....
You can’t intelligently argue this bro.
I know you really really want to.
but it can’t be done. The proof is in the numbers. The rest of it is just window dressing.
I don’t care if a Katana

looks like a bad ass bike.
Under the hood, its the slowest bike on the street…. and at the end of the race, its coming in last.
Ronnie is the Katana Bro. Time to admit it. He’s got all the talent in the world…. All the heart, all the drive and all that.
But in the end, he’s never better than 20th. And thats sad.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Clearly you didnt read my reply
because it pretty much made sense of those “numbers” you brought up and you seriously added his 07 and 09 rankings considering he ended them with season ending injuries.
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't be this obtuse.
There is no way you can actually believe anything that you are saying.
Season Ending injuries count Deuce.
Injuries Count.
Not playing in games, due to injuries, suspensions or anything Count.
Not only that….going above to your list of other RBs in the league….DESPITE missing games, they all still significantly out produced Ronnie Brown.
I think this argument is over. Either you are too dense to understand the realities of life, or to give you the benefit of the doubt you are just pushing my buttons.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
OK
did i say injuries didn’t count? you put up the rankings as Ronnie is a bottom 30 running back. Ofcourse you wont be in the upper half of the league if you arent playing!
BTW those guys i listed were all #1 backs, so they all pretty much took the load their entire career which is why you guys like Willie Parker, and Westbrook being washed up today
But either way you try to put it, either way i try to put it, one thing will remain the same
RONNIE BROWN IS ONE HELL OF A RUNNINGBACK AND NEXT TO RICKY HE IS THE BEST WE HAVE ON OUR TEAM, and i want the best player on the field so untilwe find Ronnies replacement hes the man
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 16, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronnie is one of the best running backs in the league, his durability has nothing to do with his talent
There is where you said it.
This whole time, I’m arguing against that statement. he’s NOT one of the best in the league. Maybe on our team, yes, but league wise no.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Ummm
his durability has nothing to do with his talent
that’s a true statement
as far as being the best in the league, stats may not support it but he is definitely one of the better backs in the league talent wise, hes pretty complete
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 17, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Bo Jackson was on pace
for a Hall of Fame career.
Should we induct him because of his talent?
You get what I’m saying.
And honestly, we don’t know if Ronnie is one of the better backs in the league. The season he did finish all 16 games, he ranked in the bottom 10.
Until he puts consecutive 15-16 game seasons in….we just really don’t know what we have with him.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Yea i get it but
Im saying that Ronnie is talented and between him and Ricky we have no other legitamite options, if our running back core were to stay the way it is i want Ronnie, so until we find his replacement thats who im going with
and your right i would like to see ronnie put together a full season to see what he can do numbers wise, but i already know hes a good player though
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
by Deuce Black on Jun 17, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
No but he was one of the best while he played
Which is all that DB is saying. Not many would disagree that Ronnie (when on the field) is in the upper echelon of RBs. His numbers might have been higher if he wasn’t sharing carries with Ricky….or at the same time he might have suffered more injuries sooner. All I am saying is that I see DB’s arguement for Ronnie’s talent, but I also agree with you in the fact you have to consider Ronnie’s inability to finish a season when catagorizing his “real” ranking.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jun 18, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG.....can this arguement die already?
You two have both made valid point based on how you are viewing Ronnie and your individual criteria for being labled as great. I see and agree with both points. Let it go already! My eyes and head are hurting!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jun 18, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks...
I thought I was going to lose more time out of my life reading it that I wouldn’t be able to ever get back! It was like the car wreck that you saw coming but couldn’t take your eyes off.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jun 18, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I see a running back drafted next year...
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
ronnie
He only lasts half a season! then we pay the doctors the other half
Ronnie
I like Him, but He cannot last a whole year !He is a part time guy!
mccoy
They play up guys so they can trade them! Hard to say about this guy?
They gave away two great players for nothing?
Miami does some odd things?
seems to me some things have changed in the day about RB’s. folks are saying dont give ronnie a contract based on his age and how RB’s hit a wall at 30.. well back when they had a single fitured back who had to take 200 plus carries a game then yes i can see the 30 wall thing. but now in a 2 back featured offense <—-see learned to spell it right ;op. the wall thing dont apply anymore. ricky a prime example of this at 33.
now i do think his injury prone stuff is a major factor on his contract. but just not his age.
so for ronnie IF he can stay off the injury list then i can see them giving him a three or four more year deal.
as my great grand pappy use to say: worrying about what if’s is as useless as tits on a bore hog.
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
I would give him a 3 year deal
idk about $ wise, but 3 years for sure

by 






















