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We've talked a lot about some of the very big moves that the Miami Dolphins have made this past offseason - perhaps the most active offseason in terms of big names on the move in the franchise's history. Just think about the investments made. The Dolphins bring in Mike Nolan to run the defense, reportedly making him one of the highest paid coordinators in the NFL. They sign Karlos Dansby to one of the most lucrative contracts ever for a linebacker. Then they trade two draft picks for Brandon Marshall and hand him a shiny new $50 million contract.

But we can't forget about the big name player who went in the other direction and left Miami, heading to a hated rival (of all places). More importantly, we can't forget about perhaps the biggest question mark this team faces heading into training camp in six weeks - the void left by this legendary player's departure.

I'm of course talking about Jason Taylor. Yes, I'm aware we've really beaten this topic into the ground already. But when you get told that the theme for these Sprint posts is "game changing offseason moves," it's kind of impossible not to bring up the departure of the greatest pass-rusher in franchise history.

I'm also not here to talk about who was right or who was wrong. I'm not in the mood to point fingers and get back into the blame game. What's done is done.

What I am saying today - and have said a number of times this offseason - is that I refuse to believe Taylor wouldn't have been of any value if he remained in Miami. I'm talking about on-the-field production here, too - not veteran leadership (though he was a great leader in that locker room).

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The Dolphins have a huge hole at outside linebacker. Cameron Wake might eventually become a dominant pass-rusher. But as of now, he's struggling to beat out Charlie Anderson for a starting job. Koa Misi, Miami's second round draft pick, has the makings of a very good all-around outside linebacker. His versatility to rush the passer or drop into coverage make him a great fit on the strong side. But a dynamic pass-rusher he is not.

So where will the sacks come from this season?

That's perhaps the single biggest question facing this team right now. Charlie Anderson and Quentin Moses have combined for 10 sacks in their careers. Koa Misi had just 11 sacks in three seasons at Utah. Cameron Wake had 5.5 sacks last year and possesses the most upside of all the potential pass-rushers.

According to ProFootballFocus, Wake participated in just 167 defensive snaps. So his 5.5 sacks and 20 quarterback pressures are impressive. But most of those snaps came with Wake's hand in the ground when the Dolphins went with four down linemen in nickel and dime packages. That means Wake remains relatively inexperienced as a stand-up outside linebacker.

Anderson, meanwhile, had 2 sacks and 6 pressures in 150 defensive snaps. And Moses saw just 43 defensive snaps, tallying one sack and one pressure. Taylor, meanwhile, picked up 7 sacks and 20 pressures on 828 snaps - though many of those snaps did not have Taylor rushing the quarterback.

Strictly based on numbers, Anderson and Wake do project to make up for the sacks and pressures lost from JT's departure. But there are two problems here. One - the Dolphins also lost Joey Porter, meaning they have to make up for his sack production. And two - projecting numbers means nothing. The fact of the matter is I have not seen anything on the field to make me think Anderson or Moses can become legitimate pass-rushers.

And that brings me to Wake and Misi. I mentioned yesterday how I was excited to see those two paired as the starting outside linebackers at Wednesday's OTA. But an OTA in June means nothing. I firmly believe that a lot of this team's defensive success will come down to how quickly those two can establish themselves as starters and produce on the field.

But if we're sitting here in October or November and we're still talking about a lack of pressure being put on the opposing quarterback, I guarantee I won't be the only one thinking back to this front office's decision to let Jason Taylor walk.

For better or for worse, that decision was very much a "game changer."

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Will people once and for all get over Jason Taylor. Some get too caught up in sack totals, sometimes they’re important, many other times they can be very deceptive. I believe the sack totals of Porter and JT last year were VERY deceptive. What really matters is when you get sacks, how often you get key pressures, how you hold up in the running game, and how you are in pass coverage. In other words, how good a complete LB you are, and in that category, Porter and Taylor left a lot to be desired last year. Most of their sacks were of the inconsequential variety, they may have looked good on the stat sheet but rarely did they change a game or stop an important drive. Much more often than not last year opposing QBs had all day to count the house, that’s when this team lost games, when the ball was in the air. It’s kind of like a QB who gets a lot of yardage in “garbage” time, it just doesn’t matter in the outcome of the game. Look at it this way, what good is sacking a QB on 2nd down only to blow the coverage on the TE the next play and give up a first down. That’s the type of thing I saw a ton of last year. So give me a guy like Misi, a young, potentially outstanding all around player who does it all. He may never have a 12 sack year in his career, but the other type of things he prevents might be more important. Keeping Jason around here another year would only have slowed his development and delayed the inevitable changes that had to be made. And besides, Jason wasn’t going to get any better at 36, and looking at his overall play the last 2 seasons with Washington and us, his play had deteriorated as it would with any aging player. So PLEASE, let’s just move on.

by Biggest Dolphin Fan on Jun 11, 2010 5:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I did see Jason Taylor make an impact last year...

Personally I do not blame either JT or Joey Porter for lack of production last year. We brought 4 guys on every single play. They didn’t even try to disguise which ones they were bringing either. There is not one time last year that the offensive line was even a little bit confused about who they needed to block. Every single sack we got last year came from either a guy beating a block… or beating a double team. Our guys had to fight for every single sack they got last year. A good defense creates opportunities for itself. There have to be a few sacks that you get as soon as the ball is snapped because you have the offensive line blocking the wrong way and a guy comes unblocked. That is how you make an impact on a play, and you can’t blame either of them for a lack of a good scheme.

when does the season start.....

by Jason Scott_90 on Jun 11, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the same token!

Then! we keep the BEST LB in the house with WCameron ; )

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)

by Aleta on Jun 12, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

I saw our Akin Ayodele on coverage most of the time when we got beat by the TE. I can’t remember when either JT or Joey Porter got beat on coverage.

when does the season start.....

by Jason Scott_90 on Jun 11, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Porter got beat plenty of times. JT, not so much

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by PotM on Jun 12, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch

some teams run on us. its no coincidence bell led our team in tackles

by Chris Schlitz on Jun 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely agree

I keep forgetting that stat, but people know what I’m referring to: Jason Taylor had, what, something like two sacks in his final seven games or something?

I think we can replace that with Misi alone.

Wake can more than make up for Joey Porter. It’s June, like Matty said, which means nothing more than the fact that Wake is getting the repetitions he needs to feel comfortable standing up so that he can go ahead and produce come September.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jun 11, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with this

I wanted JT back, I thought he would help the team, that being said, c’mon. Yes he WAS a legendary pass-rusher. A Dolphin ROH and a NFL HOFer, but we aren’t having to replace those skills this year.

JT is not the NFL Defensive player of the year that he was in 2006. Yes JT made a little impact last year, yes he did have leadership skills. BUT JT gave out the 2nd half of last season, and even JT’s leadership couldn’t help keep our defense from becoming pudding the last few games of the season (probably because he was give out himself).

I really liked JT back before he gave up on us and wanted DWTS and a trade out of here. Then the way he (and I do mean HE) handled his way to go to the Jets. He couldn’t keep out the press and he still can’t keep his mouth shut now that he is with the NYJ.

I admire his career, but like I said before no player is above the team. Last year during games when we had JP and JT we were like how are we gonna get Wake in there more, and this and that. Well guess what? He is gonna be in there more along with a couple of more young talented LBs. So what if they don’t throw up 12-14 sacks or contend for NFL Defensive player of the year in their 1st/2nd year, they weren’t replacing one when they came in anyways.

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by Neo on Jun 11, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Improvement in the secondary & LB coverage

Important to note that covering available receivers also leads to sacks, and I think we significantly upgraded in that sense. That should hopefully open things up for the rush.

No sense dwelling on JT now. Blame game works only so long. We have too many positives on our face to worry about that one zit…lets just pop it and move on. :)

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by mikem1224 on Jun 11, 2010 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

if they cant pass rush, i see us playing prevent defense most of the time

relying on our d line to apply any pressure and forcing the secondary to step up while thier qb is forced to throw into a sea of defenders

by FishNFinz on Jun 11, 2010 6:47 AM EDT reply actions  

when has that ever worked....

Name a single dominant defense that you can remember used that strategy? Every single good defense I know start by bringing the pain up front. They have a secondary that can make plays… but the reason they scare QBs is the eminent threat of physical pain.

when does the season start.....

by Jason Scott_90 on Jun 11, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Name me 1 time were FishNFinz was name a DC of ANY team.

We have Nolan and he should know what to do if something goes wrong ; )

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by Aleta on Jun 12, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew that!!

But Jason didnt lol

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by Aleta on Jun 14, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So glad to see a mention of Quentin Moses.

Sporano loves this guy. He is young and has been on our team for a few years now. We have several young pass rushers that have been on our team for awhile. Any one of these players could be the answer. I think it will be more of a combination of them all than one standout however.

As for the loss of JT, we can’t pay everyone. As for the loss of Joey Porter, he lost my respect when he refused to get off the field when asked on several occasions. He is not a team player and his energy is not helpful to a team mentality. I feel both moves will help our squad more than they hurt our squad.

I wouldn’t be suprised if our sack leader this year was a rookie. Possibly one that has not been mentioned in your post. Jared Odrick.

by labrat3105 on Jun 11, 2010 7:21 AM EDT reply actions  

let it go matty..........what's done is done...........
I’m also not here to talk about who was right or who was wrong. I’m not in the mood to point fingers and get back into the blame game. What’s done is done.

I won’t be the only one thinking back to this front office’s decision to let Jason Taylor walk.
For better or for worse, that decision was very much a “game changer.”

I have been a jason taylor fan throughout his career as a dolphin…….

during the tenure of this front office we have gone 11-5 and to the playoffs without taylor and 7-9 and gone home in the post-season with him…….i don’t think he helped us or hurt us as far as our record goes………

it’s obvious that he would rather play somewhere else for a paycheck than stay here………i don’t blame him for that………i don’t blame the dolphins for letting him do that………..it’s done……..done and done……….

you can’t honestly believe that the fate of the dolphins season lies in the decision made concerning jason taylor……….

it’s also obvious that when he retires he will probably do it as a dolphin if he so chooses, just like his brother-in-law……….so as a taylor fan i hope he does well with his new team the new jersey york jets……….save for two times during the regular season……….but please……..let it go……………why aren’t you crying a river over joey porter? i think he’s been of equal if not more value than jason taylor since he has been with the team…..from a football standpoint
so jason hes been let go……..he’s a jet………..so what………….move on bro………..

i have a feeling that we will see more sacks up front…..by the way………….starks has more pass rush ability than ferguson and with a more experienced langford, the addition of odrick and the young legs on the outside there be plenty of pocket penetration…………..

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 11, 2010 7:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree on the Starks....

We’re going to see more pressure from our line.

by Rickslilpiece on Jun 11, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

We didn't have Nolan last year!

I’m sorry, but Wake is a beast….. Misi will do very well on the other side….. Porter was a joke last year…. Taylor was a great player over time, but……. Everyone is replaceable…. Our boys will be fine with some great “D” plays.

by Rickslilpiece on Jun 11, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

schematics- thats the difference maker on this team. this year.

There is plenty of skill at each possition, even if it is situational. I Believe we don’t need big time stars to make this D work. Hell take off their names off their Jerseys and call ‘em a No Name Defense. that’s how a Nolan D works anyways.

by cdizzy on Jun 11, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

True....

If these guys didn’t have the talent the FO liked….. they wouldn’t be on the team…. I think events over the past few months have proven that. Second coming of the No Name D!

by Rickslilpiece on Jun 11, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well said Cdizzy

   I like your, “No Name Defense”, comment. Like Miami hasn’t donned that name in the past with a group of unassuming, unknown, overlooked, underrated and selfless players. We also had the opposite extreme with the Killer Bees.
   Either way, if this is how Nolan likes to make his defense work then I believe he will have an impressionable, young and talented group to work with. Miami’s defense was better this year than Denver’s was two years ago when Nolan took over their defense. Even a modest defensive improvement will keep our more explosive offense in games this year.
   And it wouldn’t surprise me that we show a similar, if not, more of an improvement than the Broncos last year. Denver had, I believe 7 rookies at the start of last season, yet they still showed a marked improvement. Nolan will have about the same amount of new players and a more talented group to work with this year.
   If Nolan, like Don Shula, is able to instruct, extract and teach these players and then finds ways to utilize them to their highest potential, then we have the makings of a surprise, defensively. Especially since Nolan likes to hide his schemes and keep the offense guessing what’s coming next?
   Even if we stay the same overall as last year, our offense is certainly going to be more unpredictable, potent and multi-dimensional.
   This year, there will be no limitations in our passing game. We have a proven veteran receiver, and a quarterback with a good strong arm. And all these weapons will only open up the offense even more We already have the 5th ranked running game, and that was with a run orientated offense game plan. The potential could be scary.
   Much like 2008, Miami is going to have the element of surprise again. Not for being the upstarts, but for how vastly improved an unencumbered offense can become. With Henning’s creative genius on offense, and Nolan’s ability to quickly whip a defense into shape, this could be the year of the Dolphin!

by nicoltony on Jun 12, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with Matty

yes or no on if you agree with JT leaving it still is a game changing move. He is a HOF player and a great leader, this team will miss what he brings to the feild and locker room. can we win without him yes, but he makes any team better when he is on it, in more ways than one!! Odrick will be a stud, Wake will do a good job even if just used for passing plays,Starks will handle his own up front, most likley will move back outside when JF comes back that will be awesome, Mike Nolan is the deal breaker,he will help make everything at ease. He will find away to make it work!! Thats just how runs a D!!!

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by 21Dave on Jun 11, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

When a team offers you a contract

that you turn down,that’s not letting someone walk. He,JT chose not to be here…….plain and simple.So the fact that he not here has nothing to do with the FO,it’s has to do with JT and his agent.He made his choice,and it was to leave.

by keyzkidd on Jun 11, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

thank you very much keyzkidd...............jt CHOSE not to be here...........
it’s obvious that he would rather play somewhere else for a paycheck than stay here………i don’t blame him for that………i don’t blame the dolphins for letting him do that………..it’s done……..done and done……….

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 11, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was offered a contract without his agent involved.. Ya like anyone here would sign a multi million doller contract without having it looked over first.

When he said send it to my agent They said “nope forget about it” and didnt offer it again.

JT did what he thought he had to do. If this FO wanted him they would have offered him something that week he was on vacation.

This “he was offered a contract and turned it down” stuff is just absurd.

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by jdtman on Jun 11, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I COMPLETELY agree.

JT was offered a low ball deal in the middle of the season without being able to consult, oh, you know, the guy you always consult about new deals. JT wanted to play some football and figure the deal out later. The deal was promptly removed by the Dolphins and never offered again, even when he was in South Florida waiting for months in the off season. Let’s not forget the meeting that the Phins scheduled with him the week before his departure that the Phins then mysteriously cancelled a day or two before. If I had been stood up after all of that nonsense, I would have left too. JT did not walk, he was shown very clearly that he wasn’t wanted. That is fact. Whether or not it was a good or bad idea remains to be seen.

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by Dakota Phan on Jun 11, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

regardless of how it went down....

he was offered a contract, and turned it down. I believe the contract was to pay him exactly the same amount he made last season. This wasn’t some backdoor screw job, so don’t make it out to be one. The minute he decided to get his agent involved (and I guarantee it wasn’t just to “look the contract over,” there was going to be some negotiating) is when the FO decided to pull the plug, not because they are sneaky and shady, but because they weren’t going to negotiate from that offer, and it was clear that Taylor wanted more (or he would’ve taken it).

JT did what he wanted to do, plain and simple. The FO decided he wasn’t worth anything more than what he was paid last season, he disagreed, end of story. The Jets part of the story is inconsequential because, from my knowledge, they were the only team interested at that point.

So, spin it however you want to come up with a Good Guy Bad Guy scenario, but the reality is that football is a business, and JT and Miami could not come to terms to stay together. It’s really that simple, I promise.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 11, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So nicky you would sign a multi million dollar contract without having your agent (and most like 10 lawyers) looking at it just on a "my word is my bond" kinda deal?

If so then you have way too much trust in people. I wont even sign a contract for cable tv without reading it over first. lol

I still believe JT over the FO who really has not (will not) speak on the matter.

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by jdtman on Jun 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to know how you have this inside information

that JT just wanted his agent to “look over the contract” and that Ireland and Parcells pulled the plug immediately like one of those car dealers in the carfax commercials. I have an extremely hard time believing it went down like that. And remember, JT could’ve agreed to the basic terms (length and money), and allow his agent to review the entirety of the contract before actually signing his name. I don’t trust anyone, which is why I don’t believe JT when he starts his “woe is me, I was mistreated” act. There’s nothing to trust from the FO because they won’t talk about the situation, but I expect that they didn’t want to negotiate, and that is why the offer was pulled when JT wanted to get his agent involved (which means negotiating). I have a hard time believing JT because he’s now left us twice and tried to play the victim both times.

But it really doesn’t matter, he’s a Jet this year, will be cut next year, and will either retire or move on and play another season elsewhere. When he does retire, he’s welcome back to retire as a Phin in my eyes.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 11, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, whatever happened behind closed doors will stay behind

Kinda like Vegas, but I see what your saying, he did leave twice and played the blame game.

To me, he should be allow to retire a fin, it’s the right thing to do. But in my eyes, his legacy is tainted.

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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jun 11, 2010 9:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think his legacy is tainted

he’s in the conversation (and you could make an extremely strong case) for the best defender in Dolphins history. One year with the Jets doesn’t change that, IMO.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 11, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe kinda liken it to Jerry Rice a little

I will always remember he really as a 49er legend, not much so as a Raider and psh Seahawk.

Jerry Rice = 49er

JT Canton Ohio Dolphin love.

Until then though… F*ck him. <<That right there comes from the football heart too.

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by Neo on Jun 11, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha...

with one hand his legacy isn’t tainted and with the other, F ’ him.

Nice duality there Nicky!

Did you see France-Uruguay? One of the more dull matches in recent memory…

by Natalya on Jun 11, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes very dull

South Africa Mexico was good

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by Weecho85 on Jun 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol as long as he's playing for the Jets, I'm rooting against him..

doesn’t change how I feel about him overall.

And yeah, that France Uruguay game put me to sleep. Not a fan of France as it is, and that game was the type of game most Americans talk about when they explain why soccer sucks.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 12, 2010 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its not one year, he signed for two.

But regardless, I was a JT addict and him signing with the Jets left a bad taste in my mouth.

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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jun 14, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

what ??

where did you come up with that??? that is not what happened at all,but your intitled to your opinion.also if he wanted to play for miami,he could have easily waited till after the draft,but again your opinion is just that…..not fact

by keyzkidd on Jun 12, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

jason taylor was a success in a 4-3 defense

but his numbers where not near as good in the 3-4. nolan will get his sacks, either with the LB or safty blitzes. nobody had heard of elvis dummerville before nolan got to denver last year, so lets wait and see before we start questioning the sack numbers were are likely to see this year. but with JT going to the hated jets, now i know how packers fans felt with the favre to vickings ordeal. bold projection for the year:

Y. Bell gets 6 sacks and 4 FF
C. Wake gets 10 sacks and 15 tackles for loss
K. Misi gets 7 FF, 4 sacks, 22 tackles for loss and 3 picks

hate seeing JT leave to the Jets, but his numbers will be replaced, and rather easily i belive. now his leadership and lockerroom presance will be harder to replace.

starting the lagarret blount "you got knocked the F**k out" bandwagon

by frostyphinfan on Jun 11, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

7 FF and 3 picks?

I hope you are right because has Pro-Bowl written ALL over it. More to the point it is the epitome of a game-changer.

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by TheFinReaper on Jun 11, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree.........veteran leadership is always a plus.............however.......

we have crowder who learned from thomas and taylor, bell who is a pro-bowler himself, karlos dansby and jason ferguson……….

you just can’t trade reps for veteran leadership………..and it’s not the same as a veteran quarterback here to help mentor a young gun……………not nearly the same

but his numbers where not near as good in the 3-4.

i couldn’t agree more……..taylor is a defensive end who can play linebacker….not the other way around……….

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 11, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think your going to see a lot of different players getting sacks in Mike Nolans new defense.

Odrick, Starks, Langford, im expecting big things from those 3. i think Odrick will make an instant impact on the field. Starks, we know what he can do! and i think Langford is about to have a breakout year in this new defense.

Cam Wake, i think his pass-rushing ability alone can beat out Anderson. dont WOLB blitz about 90 percent of the time anyway?? Wake has that special, explosive pass-rushing ability. i say he gets 15 sacks this season. at least. plus maybe having Wake come in on pass rushing downs isnt such a bad thing? you put him in on 3rd and 11, the LT is a little tired, and you throw a fresh Cam Wake in front of him. thats hard to handle.

by phinfan20 on Jun 11, 2010 9:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

totally agree

Although I do beleive that wake will get more time than just situation pass rushing…I do believe that his impact will be huge. Like Ronnie Brown…the more this guy is on the field the better he will be. As much as I like the “keep em Fresh” rotational mentality…some guys play better when they have to dig down deep for it…its just a fact. Look at Michael Jordan, his best game came when he had the flu…thats just the way some of these guys are…I do believe that cam wake is probably one of those guys. If not…then we can expect to see expanded numbers (hopefully in proportion) like those of last year…just think if he can keep that kind of production going all year in “situational pass rushing snaps!” How awesosme would that be?

by unklphinnie on Jun 11, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look what Nolan did with Dumervil

he made him the NFL sack leader last year. Wake is every bit as good if not better then Dumer so expect big things out of him. Like you said Wake will be rushing the QB 90%+ of the time which is why Misi is such a brilliant complimentary piece. Many scouts believed he was the most fluid and instinctive in coverage out of all LB prospects and in the new age air-it-out NFL this kid could make a name for himself. In this hybrid 3-4 scheme it will present more 4-3 elements which include Wake rushing and Misi, Dansby dropping back. Nolan also likes to pressure right up the middle and Dansby is a highly underrated pass rushing LBer. (vs Packers playoffs) I take Wake not “starting” in June with a grain of salt. The Phins just don’t want him getting complacent. We were the NFLs worst 4th quarter defensive team which is why we let go of the old men JP and JT. Lets all move on and be excited about our young, high character, motor driven defense.

by Swag4dazE on Jun 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Post

Not rehashing what has been said about JT but simply stating that this decision was a critical one (and the right one IMHO).
I would like to contend with one point that you made:

But as of now, he’s struggling to beat out Charlie Anderson for a starting job.

I think it is too early to say that he is “struggling” to beat out Charlie Anderson. I see the split in reps as
this regime giving a long time backup veteran a chance to earn a starting spot in the NFL (as well as to take a long look at what Anderson has in terms of skill set) fending off an up-and-coming younger player with mad skills. It
also forces Wake to earn a starting spot and polish his game and be more well-rounded instead of just relying on one skill.
Suppose Misi and Wake are the starting OLB for the FINS. Anderson could be a valuable backup “substitution-in-waves-player” backing up BOTH SOLB and WOLB as well as giving Wake some rest on 4-man nickel D-line substitutions.
If Wake continues to struggle or shows lack of skill/talent stopping the run and cluelessness in pass coverage, then I’ll be worried, but right now, it is way too early.

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by DolphDallas on Jun 11, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the FO did what they needed to do.

JT would sit well in a rotation. He probably wouldn’t sit well with Dansby becoming a leader, either.
With Nolan’s versatility, Wake & Anderson rotating in/out is probably more valuable than having JT play every down (and fagging in the latter half of the season).

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by Tunaflipper on Jun 11, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL!!!

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by Heater OsE on Jun 11, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last years team gave up approx 3 more points per game than we scored

I’m hoping this years numbers are just the opposite. With the addition of Marshall, Henne get one year under his belt and an improving O-line I see the Phins scoring, on average, 3 pts more per game than last season and also am hoping to see the defense give up 3 less points per game w/Dansby, an up and coming DBackfield and the additions of Odrick and Misi and of course Mike Nolan. Just a few points more on offense and a few less on defense will get the job done. I do miss JT but he’s gone so don’t really need to talk about him until he retires as a Dolphin. As for the sacks I agree w/ phinfan20. They are going to come from all over the place. Instead of just 2 guys getting the bulk of the sacks I can see several players having 5 sacks plus. I could see Wake, Dansby, Misi, Odrick, Starks, Bell, Davis, Culver, Merling, Allen could all produce 5 sacks. That would be 50 sacks. Not too shabby.

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by madcitydave on Jun 11, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

hey i know everyone has probably looked at this but.......just for fun

i am so glad this new front office has gone after size….i have always been a fan of size on defense………

as far as our starters go….average size per position is:
S – 6’ 1/2" – 207.5 lbs
CB – 6’ 1" – 208.5 lbs
LB – 6’ 3" – 250 lbs
DL – 6’ 4 1/2" – 302 lbs

that’s an average size of:
6’ 2 1/2" – 242 lbs per player……….i bet that’s pretty close to biggest in the league……..

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 11, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, they aren't slow either.

I don’t mind the size of the player as long as he is strong, fast, and athletic enough to play.

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by PotM on Jun 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ow, and the heavier the athlete the slow they tend to be, we don't have that problem.

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by PotM on Jun 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was one who found plenty of reasons to keep JT on the team...

but as the decision has been made, then we move forward.

I have to say though, whether you thought JT still had it or not or whether letting him leave was good or bad….it has to be said that it is a big move.

Essentially the role of key pass rusher falls on the shoulders of a 2nd year player. Last year he showed promise so he may well shine….or not.

Either way, it is a gamble and we’ll just have to see how it plays out. Hopefully it ends up being a stroke of genius. Otherwise, our secondary is going to be in for a long year if we can’t get pressure on opposing QB’s

by Natalya on Jun 11, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Goodbye JT... We'll be just fine!

You also have to remember that if our offense is as good as we are hoping then our D will be facing more passing situations since the other team will be playing from behind. I expect our corners to do extremely well this year which will result in the QB holding on to the ball longer than wanted which = SACK!

JT you were the best DE on our team for years, probably ever, but it was just time to move on. We are out of the Marino, JT, Zach era, and onto hopefully bigger and better things. You will always have our respect for all you did (except playing with the jets!) and am certain we’ll have a one day contract waiting for you!

I expect this team to win the division and make it to at least the AFC championship game… the only thing that will stop that IMO is injuries of course and if we beat ourselves with turnovers, stupid penalties, and missed assignments/tackles, not lack of sack production. GO PHINS!!!

by Phins Fan on Jun 11, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

does anyone realize how good randy starks was last year........??

here is how he was ranked among lineman last year……….

solo tackles:
NFL rank 10
AFC rank 4

combined tackles:
NFL rank 11
AFC rank 7

sacks:
NFL rank 10
AFC rank 6

although he will be playing a new position….for all intents and purposes we have a top ten defensive lineman anchoring our line this year…..nice

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 11, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

thats awesome!

And even though he’s at nose, he still has experience.

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by dolger14 on Jun 11, 2010 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

1 name

KOA MISI!

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by Kdog92 on Jun 11, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

(that's two)

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by Tunaflipper on Jun 11, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

it is 1 name, just 2 words.-)

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by Neo on Jun 11, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

technically

it’s a first name and a last name… lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 11, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Kdog92 on Jun 11, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

1 name...2 words...

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by Kdog92 on Jun 11, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right dog...

… It’s Koa all the way. I couldn’t give-a-shit about JT…

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by Alpha6 on Jun 11, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's JT?

oh…that guy from the Jest? Yeah….he lost my respect ages ago

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by Kdog92 on Jun 11, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok look i am sorry but no matter what. JT gave us alot of good years. and every single one of you cheered him on and loved him. and now i see some of you disrespecting him. what is done is done. but THAT is TOTAL B_U_L_L_S_H_I_T! that really ticks me off.

you should be ashamed and rethink your comments.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 11, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

It was obviously time for the Fins to move on but any REAL Phinatic loves JT.

by Swag4dazE on Jun 11, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am so sick of Jason Taylor and I have been a Dolphin fan since the team was born. No team has ever won a division championship with Jason Taylor on it. The Redskins did not want him back and now I can boo him on the Jets team which is more fun than booing him on the Fins. Thank god and greyhound he’s gone!

by onebaud on Jun 11, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it was more

Cleo Lemon, Jay Fiedler, etc that contributed most towards never winning a Div title. You gonna start hating on Zach Thomas too? You’re garbage.

by Swag4dazE on Jun 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the team was founded in 1965 and you claim you have been a fan from that time on. so that would put you in your late 40’s to mid sixitesm depending on how old you was in 1965. if you been following football that long and you still dont know that ONE player can not win you a champoinship.

i am sorry that jt wasnt playing on offence and special teams as well as defence. and playing QB:RB:WR:TE:O-LINE, D-LINE, CB,NT,FF,SF,LB,PUNTER,and Field Goal kicker.. oh and lets not forget place holder all at the same time.
 so everything he did means nothing becuase he didnt win us a championship.
guess then in your mind dan was nothing as well.

at your age you should know better..

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 11, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you've been spending too much time smoking something that matty told you not to mention.....

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 12, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too old...

…not as explosive any longer. Oh well, better luck in NJ.

by acme20000 on Jun 11, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree jt is on the latter part of his playing years. and no player plays for ever.

we know this fo is all about the youth movement and it is the right way to go.

but to turn your back and start haten on the man IMO is just plain wrong.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 11, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

and defense is spelled like this:
defense

not like this:

defence

i think you have seen this too many times

instead of passing a pipe….why don’t you set it down and pick up a book……..?

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by hwyatt3 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bit judgmental there?

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by texascowpunk on Jun 12, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea lil much

I smoke a lot and can spell for the most part you gonna jump down my throat?

Grow up and point it out respectfully bro.

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by Weecho85 on Jun 12, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. If you disagree then debate it but the personal attacks have grown old.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 12, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks fellers. but dont worry his attacks dont bother me. i never claimed to be perfect. i have said some things he seems to not agree with so he chooses to attack my personally instead of debating me.

but trust me i aint gonna loose any sleep over it.

as my great grand pappy use to say: my life is my own and i dont make any excuses for it.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 12, 2010 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually i have read many books. i like sci-fi. swords and dragons type fantasy. a good mystery and sometimes even a good thriller.

but since you seem to be prefessing that you are smarter then i am. which you could very well be. then you should also know one being able to read does not mean that they can spell.
and like i have said once before my lack of knowing how to spell has nothing to do with what i choose to consume.
typing on this site is the most writing that my life has demanded of me. so yes i will make mistakes.

thing is over time i will learn from my mistakes and grow as a person.

but thanks for pointing out my flaws. but i knew i already had them. so it is nothing new

maybe one day i can be perfect like you.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jun 12, 2010 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you are a judgemental asshole sir

just because people smoke doesnt mean they are less intelligent than you. i bet my IQ doubles yours and im baked all day buddy

smoking rally bowls for the phins since 2002! oh and screw the jets

by badjah on Jun 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You an English teacher, or just pissin off...? lol

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by Alpha6 on Jun 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

this sounds like a Mandy article

Let it go. He was offered a contract ( sticky note or not) Alex ovechckin is the highest paid Nhl player , does anyone know who his agent is? Exactly because he doesn’t have one. Jt could have discussed his contract without his agent come on. Thanks for the good years but BYE!

by K-man13 on Jun 12, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Great read, nice juicy football article in June,

but I think Wake is more likely a lock than anyone, in spite of who started during OTAs, he got the most snaps during OTAs, I watched all his plays last year, there is a video of all his plays, I can’t post it through my wii, lol, or else I would,

but my point is that he played well in all phases, he’s a football player and I expect big things from him this year.

I also think that McCoy wil be a good passrusher and will fill in Wake’s role.

A bold prediction for our starting LBs of the not to distant future;
McCoy-Dansby-Misi-Wake

by uncle finster on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent Piece Matty

   This has to be the most complete, well written summary I’ve seen to date Matty. I agree with most of your viewpoints. I also feel the Taylor situation could have been handled better. I hope he will get a chance to retire as a Dolphin like Zach did. In a rotational defensive scheme, he could have still been a play maker and a leader on defense..
   I’m excited about the upgrades we made on both sides of the ball this off season. I hope the investment pays off with dividends. We are going to be young, aggressive, and hungry this year. Talent laden as we are, even in situational players, there should be some play makers coming out of this regime.
   The best part is, like in 2008, we will be an unknown quantity. The sky is the limit in how we transform this raw talent into, “Game Changing” players. Especially on offense. We have the tools to do whatever we need to do, now. Whether it be a, “stuffing it down their throats”, running attack, the Wildcat, or any aspect of the passing game, I believe we are going to surprise a few opponents. This offense is going to be opening up now. We aren’t going to be the predictable team we were in recent years.
   Henning and Nolan are creative geniuses, capable of taking young players and utilizing their particular skills to make the most out of their assets. Thanks again for your unique perspective, Matty.

by nicoltony on Jun 12, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The media is showing some love for Koa Misi

Reports from NFL network are saying that he is playing in all 4 linebacker positions and is doing everything from rushing the QB to dropping back into pass coverage!! Sounds very JT like to me.

by labrat3105 on Jun 12, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

JT never played all 4 LB positions

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