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Five things we may have learned from Dolphins mini-camp

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I hope you all had a great holiday weekend - and that you took a few minutes to honor those men and women who gave their lives in the name of freedom.

The Dolphins had a busy holiday weekend, holding a three day mini-camp that wrapped up on Sunday with one practice following back-to-back two-a-days. There is lots of good information all over the place from the camp - including the roundups I posted a couple times this weekend as well as the work put in by the three major South Florida newspapers. So rather than sit here and regurgitate what these reports from the beat writers tell us, I wanted to just highlight some of the things we may have learned from this past mini-camp.

Of course, keep in mind that it was only one mini-camp in May. So who really knows if anything we saw this past weekend actually matters.

With that said, here are five things we may have learned about the Dolphins, as we sit here on June 1:

1. Misi has a real chance to start; Wake has work to do
It was surprising on Friday to learn that Dolphins' second round pick Koa Misi was working with the starters. But we found out that wasn't a one-time thing. Misi worked as the starting strong side outside linebacker for most of the camp. Tony Sparano admits he's purposely throwing Misi into the deep end to see if he sinks or if he swims. Misi admits that working with the starters "is pushing me even more to learn my plays." And I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Misi starting when week one rolls around and the Dolphins travel up to Buffalo.

Meanwhile, Cameron Wake spent his camp assuming a similar role to what he had last season - a situational pass rusher in nickel and dime packages. While many, including myself, are pinning their weak side outside linebacker hopes to Wake's ability to win the starting job, it's looking like this coaching staff will give Charlie Anderson every opportunity to win the job. Now I'm not saying Tony Sparano and Mike Nolan should just hand Wake the job. What I am saying is that it's starting to become clear that Wake has a lot of work to do between now and September if he wants to take the starting job away from Anderson.

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2. The interior offensive line will be a top training camp battle
Jake Long and Vernon Carey are set in stone as the starting tackles. But the rest of the offensive line is in flux and the situation will likely be very fluid as the coaches look to mix and match to find the best three guys to man the starting guard an center spots.

At center, Jake Grove and Joe Berger will battle it out as Grove looks to win back the starting job he lost when he suffered an ankle injury. If he's healthy, Grove is the better player. But he's also more expensive. Will he need to greatly out play Berger to win the job and keep his roster spot despite his large salary?

The guard spots remain an even bigger battle. One practice John Jerry and Richie Incognito are the starters. Next practice Cory Proctor and Donald Thomas are starters. Making it even more confusing, Thomas was working as a starting left guard at OTAs two weeks ago before the Dolphins signed Proctor and moved Thomas back to right guard to battle with Incognito.

Throw in Nate Garner, who is liked very much by this staff but out until training camp after undergoing a procedure on his foot, and the battle for not just the starting jobs but for roster spots will be hotly contested come August.

3. Clemons has the early lead
The free safety position has been highly scrutinized by fans and media alike. With O.J. Atogwe now in play, having become a free agent at midnight, the Dolphins could make a play for the soon to be highly paid safety from St. Louis. But as it stands now, it seems like second-year safety Chris Clemons has the upper hand as the in-house option as starting free safety.

Clemons worked as the starter all mini-camp long and even had moments where he looked like he could be the answer. He picked off Chad Henne on Friday by making a great read and break on the ball. He's reportedly been more vocal communicating in the defensive backfield. And he has the raw athleticism you want in a free safety.

But it's early. So we can't rule out rookie Reshad Jones or veteran Tyrone Culver, who is currently working as Yeremiah Bell's backup at strong safety. Neither, though, had too much written about them. So we don't really have any idea how they performed this past weekend.

4. Allen not ready to challenge for starting job
Despite recovering from a torn ACL, cornerback Will Allen told the media he would be a starter by the time the season came around. But this mini-camp showed just how far Allen still has to come before seriously competing with Vontae Davis and Sean Smith for a starting job.

Allen has historically been really good - borderline dominant, depending on who you ask - in past mini-camps and training camps with the Dolphins. But Allen reportedly didn't look like himself. Omar Kelly said Allen "looked ordinary" in his limited action this past weekend. And let's be honest - ordinary is not going to be enough to unseat either of the two second-year corners who possess loads of potential and will only get better with more playing time. I've been of the belief that Allen has to look like he's clearly better than either of the two if the Dolphins are going to reduce the playing time of either Davis or Smith. So far, it seems like Allen has some work to do in his recovery. Luckily for him, training camp is still about two months away.

5. Starks should make seamless transition to new role
With Jason Ferguson out for the first eight games of 2010 and Paul Soliai an inconsistent player (to say the least), the Dolphins needed to fill that massive void at nose tackle. It was big news when Jeff Ireland announced Randy Starks would be making the transition to nose tackle a year after having a near Pro Bowl season as a defensive end in Miami's 3-4 defense. But the very early returns are in and the results are encouraging.

Tony Sparano said that Starks had no problem agreeing to the position change. And after this past weekend's mini-camp, Starks might very well have no problem adjusting to the position change. His speed and strength are expected to translate well to playing the nose. Sparano said he's "been impressed with what he’s done with no pads on. I’ve already seen what he’s done with pads on, so I don’t really worry about that," adding that Starks has already gotten so much better in the brief time he's been working at the position.


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Miami will be on trying to get O.J.

they went after Rolle and Clark. who both arent on the level of O.J. i think its going to come down to Miami, Dallas, or Chicago. i think those 3 are going to be the real big bidders for O.J.

also im getting worried about Wake. if Charlie Anderson is the starter i’ll be real worried. but besides that everything seems to be good.

but what about Jared Odrick?? hows he been performing so far??
and what about our 2 young corners?? i’d like an update on them as well.

by phinfan20 on Jun 1, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes, but...

I doubt they offer him what he’ll get elsewhere. Free safety doesn’t seem like a position this FO will spend big bucks on. After what Rolle got, Atogwe will expect more—and get it, just probably not in Miami. Miami’s starting FS is already on the roster.

by JASCruz on Jun 1, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

or perhaps the FO will learn from the mistakes...

They let Clarke and Rolle slip, and pursued them pretty hard this tells us two things:
- They recognize that FS is indeed a position of need.
- They’re cheap bastards.
Pay the man!! Atogwe, a former team MVP and has 19 INTS in 5 seasons!!!

by aquandy on Jun 1, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey none of us saw they paying Dansby that much money.

and none of us saw them trading for Marshall then handing him that giant contract.

so i dont see why they wouldnt pay Atogwe a big contract.

by phinfan20 on Jun 1, 2010 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i dont get why everyone says the FO is cheap

didnt we have the 2nd highest payroll last year?

also they offered Rolle 32 mill. which i though was a lil much for Rolle. hes good, but not that good. and Clark never wanted to be here. but O.J. is way better than those 2 guys. the Giants gave Rolle 37 mill. i can see Miami giving O.J. 38-40 mill?

by phinfan20 on Jun 1, 2010 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Clemons would of had to really impress the coaching staff..

for them to not go after O.J.

maybe Rolle and Clark not signing here will be a blessing if Miami manages to sign O.J. Atogwe.

by phinfan20 on Jun 1, 2010 12:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This is a little off topic

But dude
I just realized how super awesome it is to have 2 corners in the same draft class start and be a tandem
Just the definition Tandem wow that just sounds really awesome them pushing each other to see who will actually be better. The same exact year i dont think any team in the nfl has that sort of plan or investment
its crazy

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by Gamer2102 on Jun 1, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Rams have until

midnite 2morrow to work something out w/Atogwe is what has been reported.

If we get Atogwe, we would have had the best offseason ever! No doubt the best offseason this offseason of any team

Go Fins!

by h3at23 on Jun 1, 2010 1:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice recap Matty...

… a little miffed there was no inside linebacker reports. Of course, I’m ecstatic about Misi, since I’ve drove the Misi bus, heh heh heh…

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by Alpha6 on Jun 1, 2010 2:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Wake

dont read too much into this. the media really needs something to write about… I remember at that time last year Starks wasnt getting any first team snaps….

they reason why they do this is they want him to push and compete. give it all and thats why.

by Crowder 911 on Jun 1, 2010 4:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I think if Wake doesn't start ...(not giving up yet)..

He will be strictly a pass rush specialist … Considering he got 5.5 sacks last year in a crappy system and was continually sent off the field last year by Porter … if he only gets 10 sacks this year coming off the bench, I will be sorely disapointed.

when does the season start.....

by Jason Scott_90 on Jun 1, 2010 5:23 AM EDT reply actions  

He could be our version of Elvis Dummerville... lol

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by Alpha6 on Jun 1, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

And we want Clemons to win...

That way Reshad Jones can take over for Y Bell next year …

when does the season start.....

by Jason Scott_90 on Jun 1, 2010 5:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Worried about sacks

I am worried the defense won’t produce many sacks this season, and a lack of pass rush really can hurt. JT=9 JP=7 and Randy Starks had 7 sacks. JT and JP are gone and Starks is at NT, and I am almost certain he will not produce 7 sacks while holding down the middle.

Yes Dansby can get to the passer, but at ILB I don’t look to him to pick up the slack, and yes Wake can be on the field better and produce more sacks, but a total of 23 sacks needs to replace. Any one else a little nervous?

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by k2oconnor on Jun 1, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

not really...

watch some Denver ‘09 defense videos. Sacks will come, from the inside, outside, safeties, corners. Everyone gets a chance to blitz. If Wake is anything close to Dumerville’s stature, he’ll have a field day.

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by Heater OsE on Jun 1, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

This^

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by The Earl on Jun 1, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think we should overpay 4 atogwe

There will probably be a cap next year and we dont wanna end up like the jets capwise. As much as i love the finz i dont think we are one player from the super bowl. If we were then itd be ok to sign atogwe for 40+ mill, but rite now i dont think it is

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jun 1, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I want

to see Vontae blitzing… hes one of the harder hitters on our team and im ready for him to put a nice hit on sanchez

by crf163 on Jun 1, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Sparano said that Clemons hasnt been making any mental mistakes

and that was the main area of concern for him

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by Patssuck456 on Jun 2, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

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