Saturday morning mini-camp report
The Dolphins have another two practice day today before wrapping up their mini-camp tomorrow. Below are some of the highlights courtesy of the South Florida media, as always in bullet format.
- Omar Kelly continues to harp on Chad Henne and his decision making, pointing out how Henne seems to quick to settle for the check down to his running backs. While Omar says that smart quarterbacks take what the defense gives them and tells us that the Dolphins have been using simple shell coverages defensively - and he admit Henne is being "smart" - he claims there have been opportunities down the field and Henne is not taking them. Personally, I don't care. It's mini-camp. Let's relax. Henne told the media the offense will be more aggressive down the field. So let's wait and see what happens when the bullets are live before criticizing Henne.
- Speaking of Henne, Tony Sparano said "Chad knows this is his huddle and there's a little bit different swagger from him." Sparano added that he believes Henne has improved his touch throws.
- Charlie Anderson and Koa Misi worked as the starting outside linebackers again, with Cameron Wake working with the first team in nickel and dime packages. Sparano admitted that he needs to see more to know if Charlie can be a starter but believes he could be. I disagree. I hope I'm wrong.
Sources: Sun-Sentinel, Miami Herald, Omar Kelly on Twitter, Mike Berardino on Twitter
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Omar seems to be chompin at the bit....
Wants more action and excitement. Can’t blame him, but we do gotta be patient. Haven’t even signed the draftees yet…..
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***Pat White Alert***
Tony Sparano had some good things to say about Pat White today. He has been working hard since the regular season ended,. He put on 8-9 lbs of muscle since the end of the season, which is a total of 18 lbs since he was drafted. He has put in quite a bit of study time and has thrown well in the practices with a completion percentage approaching 70%.
Obviously we have to see what happens during training camp and the preseason, but it does seem like he’s on his way to great improvement. We all want him to improve, right?
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Just Like I thought it seems like Pat White has made great strides towards being a really good player.
“He’s worked etremely hard” “To see the transition he’s made is phenominal.”You watch him now in these spring practices compared to when he came in last year, he’s a totally different quarterback.." “..He seems very comfortable…” “..He has the look that he knows what’s going on and he’s in control..”
Chad Pennington Today on Pat White.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
Two good Qbs is never a bad problem!
Three or four good QBs, if you count Thiggy and CP10! Neber can have too much talent. (Of course The Robot will be the starter, but I think we have good Depth at QB now)
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Thats what I say.
I remember when we had Beck, Lemon, and a beat up Trent Green. I think thing are good now.
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I'm not buying it..
I seriously doubt that the light went completely on and that he went from useless to good caliber…
Maybe the light is flicking, but its most likely from a short in the wiring…. Everyone looks goods when they aren’t any pads on and the opposing players aren’t trying to crush you.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Leave that as it may, it is good to hear progress and
if he can be an actual threat with both his feet and hands, in college it’s called a dual threat QB, which I believe will work well in the pros. The reason it doesn’t usually is that the Qb has to be able to sit and play traditional QB. Most of these QBs coming out of college ahve played in a system where if their first read isn’t there, they take off.
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And I don't see him starting over Henne, but in Pat packages. Maybe they will be used
more and more effectively.
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Maybe I'm extra slow this morning, I mean afternoon, but you said:
Sparano admitted that he needs to see more to know if Charlie can be a starter but believes he could be. I disagree. I hope I’m wrong.
What do you disagree with and hope you’re wrong about? Anderson’s ability to be a starter?
Not a fan...
Matty is not a Charlie Anderson fan…he’s all in on Cameron Wake!…Hope he’s right!…Wake has to show something else than chasing the quaterback if he wants this regime’s confidence…
by Javier Marino on May 29, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with Matty, should have kept JT
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by texascowpunk on May 29, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol; jayson & the jet's QB, were looking like long time girlfriends. layin by poolside suckin on the sud's
by wild zion beaver on May 29, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
remember juniors last year with us??.............
but then he went to the pats and played well in their system……
jt will have success in ryans blitzing defense……i think we were smart to part ways before we the fans got down on the guy for not delivering………and the team really need to move on mentally, you know……
Just one man's opinion...
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1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Mount Cody, 3-Major Wright, 4-Brandon Spikes
JT is a Jet.
Its really time to let that go, that ship has sailed. From the sounds of things he’s pretty happy where he is at this point. No one here knows just how good Charlie Anderson is because he hasn’t played that much. The coaches have a good idea because they’ve had him in practice for 3 years.
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by AussieKen on May 29, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We has played well, but that was against Tampa.
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*He
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He*
Has played well everytime he has been in the game. He’s smart, he has good size and strength, and 2 years of experience on this team. What is there not to like about him?
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Hasn't got on the snaps, even with an injury to the starter.
also, even though I don’t watch film like some on here, he didn’t seem to explode in the preseason. The only two LBs I remember from last preseason, at least regarding doing something memorable and good, are Moses and Folsom. I like Folsom, but I haven’t been hearing much from him.
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He'll have the snaps this season.
Then all of you can relxa about Anderson.
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JT really was a perfect fit for us on WOLB...
Its a shame the office didn’t take a sure thing when it was at their doorstep.
Yeah, Matty's not big on Anderson.
But I think everyone’s putting a little too much hype into Wake, to set up a big let down if he can’t beat out Anderson for the starting spot. Which will then fuel rampant speculation about the coaching staff, and how stupid they are for not starting Wake.
Sorry fellas, but I’ll trust the guys with years of coaching experience to put the best players available on the field, for the situations they are best suited to play.
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The Robot is smiling
Does not compute…..
Leader of the Draft Toby Gerhart in the 3rd or 4th round bandwagon
At what point do you say, irrelevant?
I mean Omar is seriously critiquing Chad Henne’s performance…….with the team’s best player not participating….and all of this on day 2 of mini-camp…you know, in May…?
A little premature methinks for that kind of armchair QB’ing. Henne is the guy and I’m very confident that the only direction for him to go, is up!
If true, I like the observation about Sean Smith. He’s got such great size already and being able to use it more to his advantage is only going to help take his game to the next level.
There's some truth to it I believe though.
You gotta remember who’s tutoring our fine young QB. Mr. Checkdown himself, CP10. I can almost guarantee you CP10 is drilling it into Henne’s mind to make smart decisions in the passing game, and I’m sure that includes dumping it off if you don’t see any of your primary reads. While it is good advice, it’s likely to make him more tentative to use that cannon he’s got to put the ball in places CP10 never could.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
With BM, hopefully he will have more confidence gunning it downfeild.
I think that CP10’s tutoring will be beneficial going forward, because he will know that you don’t need to win the game with long bombs. He will insytead march down the field using intermeidiate and short throws. Less INTs and keeps our defense on the field longer. Also in the intermediate and short passing game, the LBs are more involved with these pass than deep passes. This will make the LBs keep from just trying to stop the run and play back. Also HB Delays will work better.
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Why does everyone assume Marshall is a deep threat?
The guy doesn’t have blazing speed. He isn’t going to be beating CB’s deep. He’s a possession receiver who knows how to use his body. Let’s not make him out to be the next Randy Moss or Terrell Owens. What he does have is the ability to be an even better Keyshawn Johnson or Herman Moore.
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+1
And with an underrated downfield threat in Hartline, as well as a top slot receiver, it is not absolutely imperative that we find a burner. It’s a luxury; one that makes us better, but, still, a luxury.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 29, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call Hartline an underrated deep threat.
He just isn’t one. I hate to say it, but I kind of wish we would have kept Ginn. With Ginn drawing two men deep, it opens the whole field for everyone else. None of our other receivers, as we know them now, have that type of speed that warrants safety help.
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So I stopped thinking.
He got open deep plenty enough last year
to call him an underratted deep threat
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His longest catch was 67 yards.
And that was the one where he got run down by the DB, after having a 5 yard head start. Getting open a few times for 20-30 yard completions does not make you a deep threat.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
There was times last year when henne just over threw him.
Watch the begining of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb39qlJEwXc
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That was not a very good video to support your cause.
If anything you just gave me more ammunition to support my side of the argument.
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Really, runs by Ike Taylor (I believe) and is still slow?
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Have you watched the whole video?
Take the Titans game….he catches a slant and has a step or two on both the CB and S. A true deep threat takes that to the house. Hartline gets caught from behind by the CB.
In the beginning of the video, his two longest catches were because the DB fell down. It’s pretty easy to outrun a DB who’s on the ground.
As for the overthrows, each time the DB was right on his ass. Even if the throw is perfect he’s getting tackled right away. That is exactly why he’s not a deep threat. A true deep threat outruns his coverage, can turn 10 yard slant patterns into 60 yard TDs. Hartline isn’t that man.
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So I stopped thinking.
So, he has to be Ginn?
Also a deep pass is 20+ yds in my book and according to many fans I know and ESPN (even though they are just stupid talking heads)
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Yes, I'll give you 20+ yards is a deep pass.
But a deep threat takes that 20 yard pass and goes 60 yards with it. Hartline did that once, and was run down from behind. Every other time he was tackled right after he caught the ball. Which tells me he can get momentary separation from his defender, but he can’t out run his defender.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
So a guy that got open for a bunch of deep
passes is not a threat deep?
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No.
Because any receiver with enough time can get open for a deep pass. A deep threat implies he can take any pass and go the distance, and has the speed to outrun the defenders.
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So I stopped thinking.
And it wasn't a bunch of passes either.
His 16 ypc is swelled by his 67 yard reception. Without it he’s only got a 14 ypc avg. And with only 31 catches, he obviously didn’t have that many catches of 20+ yards.
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7 of those catches were 20+ yds., what we
decided was a deep pass. 7/31 = 22. something percent. So yes he is an underrated deep threat, because one in every five passes is a deep pass. BTW 2 went for 40+ yds. One in the Titans game, one in the Saints game. (If the Safety wasn’t there in the Titans game, no way that isn’t a TD) Here is where I got the stats.
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He's ranked #41, nopt bad for a rookie taken
in the fourth round.
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You just made my argument right there.
If the safety wasn’t there……..
That’s my whole point in this matter. If he was a true deep threat, he beats both the safety and the CB and scores. He did not. You can spin the stats anyway you want, the bottom line is he lacks the speed to be a consistent deep threat.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
So while he is wrestling
the ball away from the CB (shoulda been picked off) he is slow because the Safety is tackling him at the same time?
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Wrestling?
You mean tipping the ball to himself. Here’s a nice spin of the stats for you. 31 catches, 3 drops. Does that mean one out of every 10 passes he catches he’ll drop one? That’s not a very good percentage.
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So I stopped thinking.
He hit the CB then got the ball away from him.
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what?
He created no type of seperation between him and the Dbs to even give Henne a window to throw it to so Henne just threw it up and Hartline made a lucky play
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by Deuce Black on May 29, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
c’mon man most of his long receptions came in situation where we were down and had to throw the ball to keep ourselves in the game.
Lets break down those 2 plays that went for 40+
- Saints game we were already down by 2 TDs, but not to take anything away from Hartline he made a good play, but he was caught from behing therefore not helping your argument
- Titans game…if you are seriously using this to support your argument theni cant take you seriously. Both the CB and S were there hell if the S had better ball skills then it wouldve been a pick becaude it hit him right in the bread basket..Henne threw it up for grabs and Hartline got lucky plays like that dont happen veryday
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by Deuce Black on May 29, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
*everyday
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by Deuce Black on May 29, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's some reading for you
The Vikings’ definition of an explosive pass is one completed for 16 yards or more. Favre completed nine such passes in a 36-10 victory over the Chicago Bears on Sunday, with the Vikings’ record improving to 10-1.
If every ffith catch is more than 20 yds. he can be considered a deep threat. Although ot a star deep threat, but still a deep threat.
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an explosive pass has nothing to do with a WR
being a deep threat
when the speak of a explosive pass and Brett Farve they are speaking of his arm strength and at 40 years old he is still able to gun it
theres a difference between explosive and deep
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Did you read the whole article?
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no i just read the excerpt
im going to read it now
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I'm sorry but I have to go back on my statement that 20+ yards is a deep pass.
20 yards is just too short. Cause by your reasoning in giving Hartline the title of deep threat, you’re also giving it to Antonio Gates, Brent Celek, Kevin Boss, Mercedes Lewis, and Todd Heap. If you haven’t figured it out yet, they’re all TE, and none of them would ever be mistaken for a deep threat.
I’m going to have to say 40+ yards marks the true deep threats. Take a look at the guys on this list with 3 or more plays of 40+ yards: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&seasonType=REG&statisticPositionCategory=WIDE_RECEIVER&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_40PLUS_YARDS_EACH&experience=null&d-447263-n=1&season=2009&qualified=true&Submit=Go&tabSeq=1&d-447263-p=1
With a few exceptions, they are all deep threats who have the speed to warrant such a title.
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LOL I love a good argument over semantics.
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by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren't they great?
I had to go back and do some research after re-thinking the whole 20 yard thing. Surprisingly it makes quite a big difference. Especially regarding PotM’s arguments for Hartline.
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A. Johnson had the best number of
40+ yd. Completions, at 9. At a little under 9 percent. Brian has 2 with a 6.4 percent pass rate of what you call a long pass. Moss has 7 w/ 8.3 percent. Not too bad for a rookie. Brian Hartline was the 3rd best at 40+ yd. completions. Mike Wallace had 6 with PIT’s vertical passing game. Had 15 percent percent, but he was used in long passing plays, not lik Hartline. Kenny Britt had 4 w/ a 9.5 percent rate.
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rd best in regards to Rookies.
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Actually Desean Jackson had the best with 10.
That’s a whopping 16 percent.
Mike Wallace was second with 15%. All the rest of the significant receivers with 5 or more plays over 40 yards had percentages of 8 or more. All with significantly more receptions than Hartline. Why? Because they all possess what Hartline doesn’t. Speed to breakaway from the defense. Why is that so hard for you to accept?
So he’s not a deep threat. So what? The guy is still a good receiver.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
As for Hartline not being used in long passing plays...
Doesn’t that tell you something? And even though Wallace was used only in long passing plays as you state, he still had more total catches than Hartline.
He was also 6th in the NFL in regards to rookies. 3rd in the AFC. Although if we went into 20+ yard rec, or total receptions. His rank falls considerably. Not to take anything away from the guy, he’s got lots of potential. Just not as a deep threat.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Also the Titan game, watch a little bit further and
Hartline has a step or two on a CB doing a fly route! He isn’t the prototype, but gets the job done.
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Getting the job done?
If he did that, he would have scored on that 67 yarder. He gets the job done receiving the ball, but not as a deep threat.
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So I stopped thinking.
Deep threats don't have to be 4.3, 4.4 fast.
To be a deep threat, you just need to be agile and intelligent enough to get open down the field. I don’t know about you, but I saw that happen more often than people give him credit.
His YPC was over 16, wasn’t it? Wouldn’t that support the claim that he is a threat down the field? It’s not like he’s juking tacklers in the open field on 5-10 yard dumps.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 29, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No one said that you need to be 4.3, 4.4 fast
but for the most part you need to be…unless you have a 40 inch vertical like Larry Fitzgerald and are able to out jump opponents downfield then there isn’t much more to say.
And you cant seriously use his YPC stat without considering the fact that when you play as sparingly as Hartline did and accumulating long receptions(usually when we had to throw the ball to get back into a game) his YPC will be fairly high, now if Hartline was a starter then that number would drop.
i like Hartline alot and think he will be a great player for us
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I understand your argument that his YPC would level out given a larger sample size
but I can’t agree with you given the fact that he has only given us that small sample.
His career at Ohio St., he averaged 15.88 YPC. His senior year, 22.8. I think it’s rather absurd to say, “based on his play during his rookie season, and the fact that he doesn’t grade out as your prototypical deep threat, he is not going to continue posting 16+ YPC over a more productive season.”
That’s crap, man.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
If you want to go back to Ohio State…In his three year career his most production came his sophomore year with Troy Smith. He had 52 receptions, 694 yards, with a 13.3 YPC
that 15.88 YPC you brought up was his freshman year where he only had 17 receptions so that goes back to the argument that YPC would level out given a larger sample size, and same goes for his senior year where he only had 21 receptions so if you want to see his real YPC go back to his sophomore year where he actually produced throughout the duration a full season. you cant seriously use his freshman and senior YPC as accurate
That’s crap, man.
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So, you're going to tell me that
the one year where he was asked to produce the most out of any WR they had on their roster, where he was the “#1,” where he had (as you yourself just mentioned) TROY SMITH passing to him? Where is TS now? How great is he? How’s his arm?
Troy Smith doesn’t throw deep passes, Chad Henne does. Hartline isn’t a main producer, he’s a complementary one.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
First of all he definetly wasnt their #1
they had a budding star in Brian Robiske as well
TROY SMITH passing to him? Where is TS now? How great is he? How’s his arm?
Last time i checked Troy Smith won the Heisman trophy while at Ohio State so yes he was a pretty good qb. Where is he now you ask? Backing up Joe Flacco, and His arm is actually pretty decent
Troy Smith doesn’t throw deep passes, Chad Henne does. Hartline isn’t a main producer, he’s a complementary one.
Troy Smith doesnt throw deep passes? hahah thats a good one
i think theres something you should see..pay attention to Ginns receiving plays and watch who throws him the ball BTW Troy Smith is number 10….check out 5:39 especially
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here the vid
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lol, you show me A video of a deep pass and all of a sudden, boom
Besides, what sense does it make to have Hartline go deep very often with Ginn on the team?
Like I said, plain and simple, 15.8 YPC career average. With your argument or mine, it’s difficult to stand there and say he doesn’t make big plays, and knowing he isn’t exactly a yardage-eating machine after the catch, you’ve got to figure he’s picking up a lot of those on “chunk” plays. After that point, it’s once again semantics, and I’m just not going to have a full-circle argument.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Deep threats don't have to be 4.3, 4.4 fast.
To be a deep threat, you just need to be agile and intelligent enough to get open down the field. I don’t know about you, but I saw that happen more often than people give him credit.
His YPC was over 16, wasn’t it? Wouldn’t that support the claim that he is a threat down the field? It’s not like he’s juking tacklers in the open field on 5-10 yard dumps.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 29, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
For 31 catches, that's not saying much.
Especially factoring in the 67 yarder he had in which he was run down. Without it he goes all the way down to a 14 ypc.
I never said a deep threat has to have 4.3 speed. I said they have to be able to outrun the coverage, or be able to separate from the defenders after the catch. Hartline can get open, I’m not debating that. But he does not have the speed to outrun most DBs in the league. That is why he is not a deep threat.
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Sure
but then you’re going back to the whole “if you remove this one play, then..” argument. You cannot use that argument, I don’t care what point you’re trying to make. You can’t just remove a stat from somebody’s line, because it happened for whatever reason.
Maybe Hartline goes on to have at least one of those types of plays in a given season. I think the fact that he has the intangibles to make that play means he gets in line to make them more often than one might think. Intangibles go a long way. Yeah, “right place, right time,” but you cannot argue against the fact that he showed a ton of poise, intelligence, whatever you wanna call it when actually asked to react to that situation. You can’t just take a long pass away from him because it was an out-of-the-ordinary situation. Those happen.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea i agreee you cant take something away
that actually happened that’s just ignoring the facts
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No one said that you need to be 4.3, 4.4 fast
but for the most part you need to be…unless you have a 40 inch vertical like Larry Fitzgerald and are able to out jump opponents downfield then there isn’t much more to say.
And you cant seriously use his YPC stat without considering the fact that when you play as sparingly as Hartline did and accumulating long receptions(usually when we had to throw the ball to get back into a game) his YPC will be fairly high, now if Hartline was a starter then that number would drop.
i like Hartline alot and think he will be a great player for us
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Well he's faster the Cammy and Bess, and I don't think if he beats
a corner on a double move, anyone’s going to catch him.
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That's not saying much to be faster than Cam and Bess.
I’m just saying he’s not going to be beating any CB’s in a footrace for a deep ball.
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That's where I disagree, if he has a step or two, I don't see a lot of CBs catching him
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If that was the case......
His yards per reception average would be a lot higher than 12.3.
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Yes, he won't outrun a CB like Ginn, but most WRs will be able to take
advantage of a trip by the DB or a double move where the DB jumped the route. I think he has decent enough speed to not get chased down.
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he has good speed
but dont mistake that for blazing…he will be caught from behind
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Basically what I said, but our opinions differ on whether or not
he will be caught from behind.
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its not an opinion its the truth here watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dwOoIoJYUA
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So he breaks three tackles, then the CB catches up with him,
that is not what I calll slow. Then he beats a CB and a S by about 10-15 yds deep. There was one instance where he was caught by a LB, but that was after running in to one of his blockers. (LB are athletic freaks) Yeah this is clear evidence that he is slow.
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Listen
So he breaks three tackles, then the CB catches up with him,
Breaking tackles and getting YAC is what Marshall does, Burning DBs off of pure speed is Not what Marshall does. Sure there will be instances where he will get a play downfield here and there but that in no way makea Marshall a consistent deep threat. But he doesnt need to be because thats not his style
First and foremost i NEVER called him slow. Hes a big guy with good speed for his size..not to be mistaken for blazing speed (or being a deep threat for that matter)
That play where he beats the CB and S by 10-15 yards was a blown coverage. That same play is on another video that provides the game audio.
Also SOME LBs in the NFl are athletic freaks but unless that LB is Patrick Willis there is no reason for a “deep threat” or a guy “who doesnt get caught from behind by DBs” to be caught by a linebacker of all people
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by Deuce Black on May 29, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
My point was he truck two defenders and juked a third,
before he was caught from behind. Also if he doesn’t wait for that ball, it’s an easy TD.
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smh
My point was he truck two defenders and juked a third,before he was caught from behind.
Then why bring it up to begin with? the fact that he broke all those tackles shows he gets yards after the catch..that has nothing to do with his speed or him being a deep threat.
like i said before that play was a blown coverage and of course if the ball got to him earlier he wouldve scored he was 20 yards away from the endzone
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by Deuce Black on May 29, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So making some plays down field proves that he
isn’t a deep threat.
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Marshall has made 1 or 2 of those kind of plays in his first 2 years in the league, that’s not his specialty
by the way one of those was a blown coverage
in order to be considered a deep threat Marshall would have to make plays deep on a consistent basis (as in beat CBs and S)
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by Deuce Black on May 29, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But showing me a vid of BM
catching deep passes, doesn’t make me believe he can’t do it.
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Look, this argument and every argument on this thread
is all about semantics. 100%. The fact of the matter here is that a “deep threat” has to do with the ability to get open and make a reception greater than x yards.
Nowhere in the term ‘deep threat’ does it insinuate you have to be blazing fast. Home run threat? Yes, that implies you must be extremely athletic, etc. Burner? Absolutely, you need to be CJ/Ted Ginn fast. But deep threat? Come on. Nowhere in the idea or term does it say you must be fast to be a deep threat. Hartline is a deep threat. Period.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but I question the author of that piece.
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by texascowpunk on May 31, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i question the author of this comment
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LOL No you don't!
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by texascowpunk on May 31, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
actually his yards per reception has dropped
every year..so i hope he can keep it steady
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No my friend ALOT of dbs will catch him
even if hes in the open field he will be caught from behind…for example the saints game when he shrugged off the corner on a slant and that same corner caught him before he scored
its not a bad thing he gets caught from behind that just means speed is not his game
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I'm talking about BM, DB
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oooooooh!
same goes for him as well hes getting caught from behind
now in order to get caught from behind someone would have to bring him down and thats hard to do
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Not Hartline, that's a different conversation.
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saying hes faster than two guys that
run 4.6 on a good day isnt saying much at all especially if its not by alot
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I don't think of that as a bad thing
I don’t think it would make Henne tentative so much as less over-confident in his arm. He seems to make bad passes or overthrow receivers when he’s just got too much going on in his head. Wide open, “easy completion,” stats padding, whatever you wanna say. He’s got to simplify things for himself. Perhaps that means checking down more easily.
Are we really complaining about Chad Pennington with an actual gun?
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 29, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not complaining.
I just think it might stunt his growth a bit. But at the same time, until we find a receiver who can actually spread the coverage downfield, it’s not a bad thing to check down.
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its not a bad thing but when your quarterback has a cannon for a arm
you want to take that and use it to the best of its ability and having a proven deep threat would do that
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You guys seem to argue to no end that we don't have a deep threat
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 29, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
its not that we dont because i can see a guy like Julius Pruitt, Taurus Johnson,
and even RGM filling that role but i differ when people try to call Hartline a deep threat because they are making him out to be something hes not. Hartline is a good player but hes not deep threat in the NFL, and im not saying just because he isnt a deep threat that doesnt mean he isnt a good player.
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Read my response up toward the top
about the semantics of each term: deep threat, home run threat, burner, etc. I think to argue that the term “deep threat” insinuates the absolute necessity that you have blazing speed is ludicrous.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Read my response to your response
"I make black history every day, i don't need a month" -Kanye West
You guys seem to argue to no end that we don't have a deep threat
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 29, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
its not that we dont because i can see a guy like Julius Pruitt, Taurus Johnson,
and even RGM filling that role but i differ when people try to call Hartline a deep threat because they are making him out to be something hes not. Hartline is a good player but hes not deep threat in the NFL, and im not saying just because he isnt a deep threat that doesnt mean he isnt a good player.
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That was the 2009 season
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but the superbowl was in 2010. so they are considered the 2010 superbowl champs
google 2009 superbowl champs you get steelers, google 2010 you get saints.
probably should have said 2010-2011 superbowl champs
Yees, I was trying to explain why he was confused, should have said so.
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Hartline is not a deep threat...and Tracy Porter is not one of the fastest corners in the game (4.49)
No one is downing here i’m just speaking the truth just because i said Hartline isnt a deep threat doesnt mean im being down on him for not being a good player…Hartline is going to be really good. But dont try to make him out to be something he isnt.
As for Charlie Anderson you need to get something clear he was a backup for a reason, but if he can come in and play every game like he did against Buffalo when he started for Porter than great. Other than that you cant really take in too much stock as in to whos starting now because it is mini-camp…clearly they want Wake to start but he has to earn it…clearly they want Misi to start but he has to earn and thats not a bad thing because we need competition
As for all that other junk take it up with Omar Kelly. Sure everyone is dying for football news and Omar may seem a little too critical in a mini-camp that has little or no substance as to how he will perform on day 1. All i care about is when the pads come on.
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He ran a 4.3 40, same as CJ Spiller.
So he is indeed fast.
Tracy Porter ran a 4.37 second 40 yard dash and managed to do 18 reps on the bench press at the NFL Combine. Unfortunately for him, it didn’t help his draft stock much. His numbers were impressive, but so were the numbers of most of the other top corner back prospects. Porter is one of ten corner backs who will likely be drafted before the second round ends. He should probably be selected in the top half of the second round.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1205
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Hartline runs in the low 4.5s.
Colston’s result’s
He also has very good straightline speed, clocking a 4.50 and 4.55 at the combine in Indy.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/prospects/marques_colston.html
Brian Hartline’s combine. Hartline is 2 inches shorter and 30 lbs. lighter though.
Brian Hartline ran a very solid 4.49 second 40 yard dash at his Pro Day workout. He also showed very solid hands during position drills. He is still a late round prospect due to his lack of college production, but a team may take a chance on Hartline in rounds five or six.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1771
Weight 193 lbs.
Speed 4.52 ( Combine )
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Also some food for thought
Ran 4.52 at the Combine and impressed everyone with his overall body of work..6.65 3-cone; 10.92 long shuttle; and 4.12 short shuttle were all among the leaders for the wideout groups. At the Columbus Pro Day he ran 4.54 and 4.49, and stood on his Combine numbers for the rest..
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WHat does Colston have to do with anything?
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by Deuce Black on May 30, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
IDK he is a deep threat that is on the same team as Porter.
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WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!! Marques Colston is not a deep threat he is a possesion wr
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by Deuce Black on May 30, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ok it clear you dont know what your talking about so im goin to have to end this
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by Deuce Black on May 30, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the Definition of a #1 WR!
Of Course he can beat people deep! He can beat you over the middle and short too. Do you remember the games where Brees aired it out? A lot of those passes went to Colston.
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no they were to meachem and henderson and moore
those guys are there deep guys Colston is possesion hes that #1
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like i said he still isnt one of the fastest corners in the game
BTW what DB doesnt run a 4.3, 4.4
If Hartline cant outrun him then how do you expect him to outrun faster corners
and Spiller ran a 4.28 on one of his runs as Porter ran a 4.37 on one of his runs
now if you talk official times (average of both runs) then its a different story
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by Deuce Black on May 30, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Sean Smith runs a 4.49
Davis is slower at 4.41
A 4.3 and a 4.4 are very different speeds.
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No you Mean Davis is faster
now i wouldnt call 4.3 and 4.4 VERY different speeds though obviously a 4.3 would be faster
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by Deuce Black on May 30, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone hear what CP10's new nickname is? This is for real too.
They are already calling him “Coach Pennington”
I do like the sound of that!!
i LOVE the sound of that
it has a nice ring to it
maybe he will be our “coach pennington” for a long, long time
WE GOT BRANDON MARSHALL!!!!!
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"Violence is not the answer, it's the question; the answer is YES!!!"
Sounds good to me!
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by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw that
I like.
BRANDON MARSHALL! and TD's are synonyms.
EARTHWAKE!!! QB's you can't run or hide
CAMARILLO=Clutch Football player
HENNE=the 2nd coming??? Time will soon tell
by 54 on May 30, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Couldn’t get through do we have a deep threat argument.
Hartline is a deep threat. BM is a deep threat through YAC. None can out sprint a DB to the house for 50 yards (unless there is broken coverage) That doesn’t mean they aren’t deep threats. It just means they aren’t homerun hitters from 50 yards out. That’s ok. I’ll take BM inside the red zone over any other receiver in the league. If ya haven’t notice we faced hard times in the redzone. Because, it was hard for our WR to get open in there. That wont be the case in 2010.
It will still be nice to have a good size 4.3-4.2 WR out there. But, we don’t need one. The field will be opened up enough for our guys to work.
BRANDON MARSHALL! and TD's are synonyms.
EARTHWAKE!!! QB's you can't run or hide
CAMARILLO=Clutch Football player
HENNE=the 2nd coming??? Time will soon tell
Thhaannkkkkk youuuuu
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on May 31, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Damnit.. riddle me this..
Wy does ever damn picture of Henne have to look like he is som swammy getting ready to fly away on his carpet? Damn guy has a messed up throwing look. And now we see that its not jsut when he throws a football ! lol
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Marshall, Hartline, Bess.. Now can we still go snag Bowe as well? Please? .
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
The rainbow background does not help either
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Marshall, Hartline, Bess.. Now can we still go snag Bowe as well? Please? .
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
You like that, huh Maine...?
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Sorry but I couldn't help noticing how a seemingly
innocent comment one poster made about Hartline being a deep threat, generated about a 96 post debate. Isn’t it entertaining when that happens, when say, a few people are talking about the offense, then someone days a certain player is/isn’t this/that (tough, fast, smart, good hands, etc) and bam, long, long debate ensues.
Absolutely relevant to saturday mini-camp naturally :-) :-)
Its nothing more than an exercise in semantics anyway.
Good times!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever the pragmatic one...
… must be sunny where you are… LOL
;-)
And yes, this phenomena has been occuring in quite a few posts. There are some contrarians around…. go figure…
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Otherwise it wouldn't be so fun on here.
If we never had good disscussions and every just agreed, it would get very boring very quick.
Can you feel that? Ah...$***! I am the push that makes you move!
Note to self: Read the fanshots!
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This is the year where hope fails you! The bastard you know is the hero you hate!
And yet some debates still seem futile.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
But some are entertaining
Can you feel that? Ah...$***! I am the push that makes you move!
Note to self: Read the fanshots!
-Pulse of the Maggots- P.o.t.M.
This is the year where hope fails you! The bastard you know is the hero you hate!
And some are just an ass whip.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
... and ignorant... lol
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64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Well sure.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure you don't want to argue about it...
another 77 posts and this little mini-thread will outdo the other.
LOL No argument here Nat!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Now riding in First Class on the "DRAFT LaRON BYRD IN 2011" Airbus A380.
by texascowpunk on May 30, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we gave matty a good assigntment
iv’e never asked you for anything matty, give us a Hartline read so we can break the posts record!
by ricenbeans82 on May 30, 2010 9:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i can run a 4.5 40 with a slight acl tear and im not a deep threat
but Hartline is a deep threat. now please shut up about this debate. u know your going to see him in the slot just gash some defenses right up the middle.
by ricenbeans82 on May 30, 2010 8:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe, just maybe
Henne feels that checking down is a good way to work on his touch passes?
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