Let's be real here...
by jfink24 on May 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT
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PrintFirst off, I just want to say that I am a diehard Dolphins fan just like most of you here. Although I rarely post anything on here, I visit The Phinsider on a daily basis, and pay close attention to what is discussed in all the threads. The Fins are one of my biggest passions. Win or lose, the joy I get from seeing our team go out and compete every Sunday is priceless. I root for the Dolphins, and am beyond excited for the team's bright future, and the young nucleus the Trifecta has brought in to hopefully contend for years to come.
Anyways, I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, or rain on anyone's parade, but every season, I see tons of fans get their hopes up to the highest level. Now, it's great to be excited for the upcoming season - I'm absolutely ecstatic, and can't wait for even our first taste of OTA's, as I'm going through Dolphins' withdrawals. However, I've learned while it's one thing to be excited for our Dolphins, it's another to set too high of expectations, because chances are, with so much unproven talent, it will lead to immense disappointment. No disrespect intended, and I'm not trying to single anyone out, but after going through several promising, yet heartbreaking seasons in the recent years (i.e. Daunte Culpepper, Saban's second year, Ricky's leage-leading season where we lost to the Pats to miss the playoffs in Week 17, etc), it pains me to see people on this site talking about how we've instantly become serious contenders and whatnot.
I'm a realist, and just want to point out that people on here are talking about Vontae Davis and Sean Smith like they're Pat Surtain and Sam Madison, when they have only a season under their belts. Really, they had a good year, but they've got a lot more to show before we just deem them the conerbacks of the future. People are saying guys like newly-drafted Chris McCoy are beasts, when they haven't even come close to proving they're fit to take a snap in an NFL game.
Yes, I'm absolutely stoked to have Brandon Marsall and Karlos Dansby on the squad, but let's see them play in their new uniforms before we pass judgements. Remember when Culpepper came in here? SportsIllustrated said it was the best thing for the Dolphins since Marino, and even picked them to win the Super Bowl. The thing is, anything can happen. Nothing is promised.
And while my hopes are high for this season, and many to come, I'm not sold just yet.
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you should continue with the whole "rarely post" mindset
i kid i kid….
but yeah i think its just optimism. no body is crowning this team as the next super bowl winners, but you can argue that this team has not drastically improved from the 7-9 team we were a year ago.
with the additions of:
mike nolan
karlos dansby
brandon marshall
i dont think its out of the realm of possibilities this could be a 10-11 win team this year, especially with our middle of the pack strength of schedule.
be optimistic my friend, hope for the best, expect the worst.
I think 10-11 is very realistic.
We lost the last 3 games due to what looked like our team just giving up. Those were painful games to watch.
I think with Nolan coming in and shaving a few points off of what we give up, Marshall taking a few to the house and Dansby solidifying the middle of the defense, we can hit 10-11 no problem.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
I feel that the mindset of this FO from the beginning has been to build
through the draft and not to spend money on high priced free agents. Build and grow from within.
Then, when you are within striking distance of being a contender, make the big play for a FA in order to make a run.
Our FO signed the biggest offensive and 2nd biggest (but our biggest need) defensive FAs on the market this year.
Does our FO think we were just those 2 ingredients away from making a run?
Dolphins and Gators baby!
2nd biggest FA?
Who was #1 in your mind? Unless I’m forgetting names, which I likely am, I’d heavily consider Dansby to be the top defensive free agent of the offseason.
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1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee/1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson/1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
by Dave.Phuller on May 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah.
That can be arguable based on his level of intensity and health. But I’ll give you that one.
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1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee/1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson/1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
by Dave.Phuller on May 11, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you.
I just stated Peppers as the biggest defensive FA based on media coverage, etc.
I personally think Dansby was the better player. That makes our FO grab the best offensive and defensive players of the offseason. And forgive me, but Marshall was not a FA, he was traded for. However, he was still maybe the best offensive offseason acquisition, except maybe for McNabb.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
I say Peppers was the biggest D-FA
regardless of media given that
a) he’s a pass rusher, hence a more important position, relatively speaking, than ILB
b) which explains why he got as much money as he did
That said, I think when you look at effort, consistency, and what you get for the money…….Dansby > Peppers.
Define "biggest".
Peppers is a large, large man!
:-p
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 11, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
PEPPERS DOESN"T PLAY IN A 3-4 - Phins would have had to completely
change D to even consider him.
Biggest FA this year (for a 3-4) was Wilfork
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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that too I suppose Nats
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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I think winning the division in 2008 and still being mathematically playoff elegibile in week 17 of 2009 sort of, kind of labels us as contenders.
Besides, if you’re going to be overly optimistic about your favorite team, May is the perfect month to do it in!
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 11, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
I think 10 wins is my "semi-realistic/optimistic" prognosis for this team...
there are still holes to fill, still questions to be answered about various players and positions, not to mention whether the young players can keep developing and improving. The last point is of particular importance as it includes none other than Chad Henne. For the great additions of Marshall & Dansby, Henne’s performance will be a huge factor in how well we do…
Ain't it the truth?
You could create a nice fill-in-the-blank statement about all thirty-two teams based on that point. All of our hopes live and die on the bones, muscles, and ligaments of those precious throwing shoulders.
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 11, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Something like spring training in MLB...
anything is possible.
I’d only add that the magnitude of the questions/doubts, the what if’s and all the things that have to happen for a team to say, win 12 games…..are a whole lot less likely in cleveland than Miami for example..
Poor, poor Cleveland.
It’s crazy that we haven’t won twelve games since 1990 (1986 for Cleveland), but the Colts have done it eight out of the last ten years.
"To borrow a simile from the football field, we believe that men must play fair, but that there must be no shirking, and that the success can only come to the player who hits the line hard." — Theodore Roosevelt
by Chad Henne is Your New Bicycle on May 11, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah I'm just ganna say...
…. Dolphins all the way FTW. I like what I see and I can’t wait. My opinion we will do great!
This is totally true..
we need to be realistic. We r gona win the division and make it to the SB, which we R gona win ; ), So guys and gals! u need to stop setting too high of expectations for this season and just be happy with been SB Champs ; ) Nothing less, GO DOLPHINS!!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)
I too think a 10-11-12 win season is out there for grabs for Phins.
That said If we sweep the Jest and Bills and split with the Brady, then we have had a good damn year. that would be 5-1. Now add the Lions, Browns and Raiders and you are at 8-1
If we sweep the AFCE – then we have had a great year. And as above they would be at 9-0.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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I am all for being realistic
Because in the 2009 off-season I was overly optimistic, picking them to win division or at least go 11-5 or 10-6 again with the most difficult schedule in NFL. My optimism dwindled when it looked as if Gibril Wilson (training camp and pre-season) was going to flop and Ted Ginn was NOT going to take the next step, but regress. And then the Fins go 0-3! So I knew I was wrong. Plus I had said Pats would decline, which didn’t really happen.
So I’m not getting overly optimistic in 2010, because just like last year the first part of schedule is a killer (maybe) with Vikes, Ravens, Steelers (lets hope Big Ben is still suspended!), Packers, as well as Jets and Pats in first 7 or 8 weeks. In other words, Fins will face quite a few good QBs, WRs, and defenses, so I don’t think it is out of the question to be 4-4 or even 3-5 in that time. Heck, half or more of the starting D will be new, and rookies and new players take time to work in (as will Starks at NT). But the last half of the season with Fergy back and easier teams should mean Fins mke meaningful run at playoffs. If the oldies “but goodies” on the Jets run out of steam and Sanchez does indeed have a soph slump, I see the fins easily making playoffs as Wc (with either Jets or Texans as the other WC. My division winners are (besides AFC East), Ravens, Colts, Chargers…all three of them by default (Bengals were really a fluke last year).
i will be surprised if we dont get at least 9
but my prediction (subject to change) as of now is 10 wins
WE GOT BRANDON MARSHALL!!!!!
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Record vs.
AFC EAST 4-2
AFC NORTH 3-1
NFC NORTH 2-2
OTHER 3rd place AFC Teams 2-0
2010 Record : 11-5
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I actually agree with this post
I hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I’m not niave to the point that while we have gotten better, other teams are doing the same thing as well. I do believe we will have a good season, but I hope our expectations don’t exceed reality.
I think you like being a Debbie Downer !!
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Marshall, Hartline, Bess.. Now can we still go snag Bowe as well? Please? .
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
How long till brad becomes old?
haha i kid
But i think we can win the division
I honestly think we can sweep the jets and bills and split with the patriots
11-5! especially if favre doesn’t come back
Leader of the Draft Toby Gerhart in the 3rd or 4th round bandwagon
Getting off to a good start....
This will be critical for the Dolphins… With the Vikes, Jets, and Pats in weeks 2-4 Miami has a tough early schedule, which worries me a lot…. this regime has started poorly both years, and this is the worst schedule to start yet…. Assuming we beat the BILLS – the JETS & Pats are super important – really we need to win both of these home games, and i fear at least 1 loss.
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Lol; this is a major concept, "all but the best will quit" the pats. Are rebuilding, the short term Jets, will com out the gates blazing, then wilt. The Bills have lost there idenity. Man if we dont hand everyone, in our AFC east there bag lunch.
But i’m just a little beaver, not to many skiddles left in the jar!
by wild zion beaver on May 12, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
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