Building Through The Draft: An unofficial case study, part four
Incase you haven't been around here long enough, this is the fourth part of a five part series in which I am just hoping to generate some discussion on the idea that it is best to build through the draft instead of dealing away early draft picks (for the purpose of this study, rounds one and two are being considered "early draft picks") in exchange for proven (but potentially troublesome) veterans.
You can check out the first three parts of the series by clicking here.
This installment is essentially just a wrap up of the first three parts before putting it all together in the final post - at which time I hope you will all see the point behind this.
If you recall, I took a look back at all of the draft picks from 2000 through 2005 and unscientifically classified them into one of five categories based on predefined statistics. The results? Not very encouraging.
Of the 380 players picked in rounds one and two between 2000 and 2005, over 45% of the players chosen were either "disappointments" - as defined by not being long-term starters in the NFL - or "busts." On the opposite side of the spectrum, only 15% of the players chosen in the first two rounds became "stars" or "superstars" - loosely defined as a player who was named a first team All-Pro at least once or was named to more than one Pro Bowl. Meanwhile, 39% of those 380 players drafted landed right in the middle group - "starters."
The final breakdown of all 380 players chosen in rounds one and two are below.
| Rds 1&2 | Rd 1 Only | Rd 2 Only | |
| Superstar | 4% | 6% | 2% |
| Star | 11% | 17% | 6% |
| Starter | 39% | 43% | 34% |
| Disappointment | 23% | 15% | 32% |
| Bust | 22% | 18% | 26% |
So here's my question. Since one-third of all first round picks between 2000 and 2005 was either a disappointment or a bust, why do teams find it so hard to part with first round picks in exchange for proven NFL talent?
There are two reasons I can think of. The first is the "hope" that a first round pick brings a franchise. Fans love to get behind a rookie and watch him grow as his career progresses.
But the biggest reason, in my opinion, is the "it won't happen to me" mentality that all NFL front offices possess. I know that the people who make personnel decisions in this league have to be confident in their ability to make these kinds of important decisions. But I don't think that they recognize the risk involved. And when you take a step back and realize that nearly half of the players chosen in the first two rounds between 2000 and 2005 have been disappointments (or worse), it's impossible to sit here and say to me that the risk involved in the draft isn't greater than the potential reward.
However, certain teams seem to have better luck with their draft picks than others. And the final part of this analysis will look at just that. How well have drafts run by Bill Parcells turned out relative to the league average? Stick around and you will soon see the good news...or bad news.
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by PresClintonius on Apr 7, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Love where your going with this
But what Im wondering is how Parcells draft picks stack up against the other dynasties! Like the Patriots, Steelers, and Colts.
We all have faith in the Tri-fecta, but its almost impossible to see where the Front Office is going with the first pick..Dez Bryant would be a possible fit, but he is an idiot. And football IQ counts for something with the Front Office. I easily see the first 2 rounds being a defensive pick.
They are sold they can find a solid WR in later rounds ala Hartline.
yes. they can find another "solid" reciever like Hartine. but we already have a bunch of "solid" WR.
we need a number 1. thats why people want Dez. someone who has the potential to be more than just solid. we want someone who can be a star or superstar. and Dez (IMO) is the only WR in this draft who seems to have the potential to be a superstar in the NFL.
Interesting point
It should also be noted the both GM, coach and others opinion go into draft picks, so it’s not just one person, but when it comes to Parcells, he is the voice of decision, so who knows.
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i cant wait to see how Parcell's picks turned out.
hopefully you bring us some good news.
Here's why teams don't like to part with 1st rounders in trades
A) there’s a 66% chance that player you draft is at LEAST a starter. Not terrible odds.
B) there’s a reason guys get traded. Sometimes, it’s just because they fit into their old team’s scheme or plans, other times it’s because they may be a health risk, character problem, or not as good as the general public thinks.
C) age. Drafted players come in at 22 or younger, meaning you get 8-10 good years out of a starting caliber player. Guys in trades are usually 25+, meaning you only get a max of about 6 years out of them.
Sometimes, I’m all for trading that pick for a proven player, but if you have a smart FO that excels in the draft, you have better than normal odds of finding a player in that draft, so it’s worth keeping.
And sometimes, it just comes down to egos :-)
There certainly isn’t a “wrong” way to go about this.
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Good sense there........ and,
There certainly isn’t a "wrong" way to go about this.
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lol well that's because they suck at drafting AND signing FA's
they aren’t picking the wrong method, just sucking at it hahahaha
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at Washinton
They took, like a zillion, proven starter and superstar and we did it as well in the last Shula year. That doesnt work well either. as LN21 said, sometime, to many egos on a team can burn it down. U might take a couple of FA players, but u want to keep getting draft players too.
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Money
In the cap era, outside a top-5 or top-10 pick, you’re still getting a guy signed for about 4 years at a predictable rate, that will be less than a FA vet. I think without a cap, high draft picks aren’t as big of a commodity. Along these lines, there was an article I read somewhere about 2nd rounders, and how this is more valuabe (in the cap era), because they were generally less than 1st round money, and the drop off in talent was not as great. And if you look back, the Patriots have in the past several years continued to add 2nd round picks.
Well Said Nicky...
Agree – getting a “starter” in rounds 1 -2 is very probable…which is why you should build thru the draft most of the time. You get a younger, healthier player for a few more years – if you resign him…My chief complaint is that ALL of the NFL Front offices’ have HUGE EGOS attached, and almost never admit thier mistakes… just repeat them over and over.
Now with Miami, we have one of the better ORG’s right now, but the TUNA and Co. have still made thier share of mistakes. I would give the a B – or C + so far… no better.
Pat White, Pat Turner, Shawn Murphy were big mistakes to name just a few… and at this point MERLING has not proved his worth (#1 second round pick) BESS for one was a big pickup for nothing. Starks – great pickup… but Wilson and Wilford busts also. HENNE is the pick by which this team will be judged, as a second rounder – if he becomes a STAR then their grade goes up a LOT… Picking LONG #1 overall was solid but nothing to brag about. Hell when you pick first overall – if you mess it up you are an idiot…period. This draft makes – or breaks this team for years to come… a great draft propells us into SB contention – a bad one….. and we suffer for 2-3 more years of .500 football. an “average draft” will still leave us behind NE and NY… and don’t forget the freakin Patsies have 3 second round picks this year – in a deep draft – and two FIRST ROUND picks next year….. making this year critical for Miami’s long term success…
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okay. im pretty sure Long is more than just "solid" hes already one of the best LT's in the league!
Merling was a 2nd round pick. and him and Langford are one 2 years into there careers! jeez give them some time. everyone wants to give Ginn 3-4 years before they call him a bust but yet you want to call Turner, Merling busts when there still just baby’s in the NFL. not everyone comes in day 1 and is a star. they have to work at it.
so far they’ve mostly gotten solid players. and who knows in a couple years they could be superstars. you have to give them TIME.
and i defy you to find a team thats has gotten 7 great players in 7 rounds. it doesnt happen. every team has a couple misses every year.
as always great write up Matty
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See, as good as the information Matty's provided is....
I’d almost like to drill down ever so deeper into the metrics.
More specifically when thinking in terms of the star to bust continuum, where are these coming from in terms of draft position?
IOW, does the star/bust ratio get better….or worse as you are earlier or later in the 1st round?
Intuitively, one would think that obviously the top picks are less likely to bust, but at least from anecdotes and the countless high profile bustsl, i don’t know that such an assertion is true. It could be that the top prospects are being drafted and evaluated by consistently bad franchises and the NFL definitely has its perennial doormats (detroit, oakland, cleveland, others).
MONEY!!!
It’s all about money. When you sign your draft picks you’re getting them at a reduced rate. For example when Miami signed Ted Ginn he got a few million a year with a signing bonus of a few million. If we trade/tender Brandon Marshar we’re probably looking at paying him 7-10 million a year and a very large signing bonus.
You have to build your team on these low cost players or you will blow away your budget.
That does not mean that a team close to having a playoff team deas not get there with a couple big name free agents.
Unfortunately....
Ted Ginn’s production has been, at best, modest. Look at 2010, Ginn’s cap figure is going to be in the $5.5-6M range for what amounts to a #3-4 WR and special teams returner. Is that a better deal than paying Marshall $10M and getting 1000+ yards and at least 80 catches?
In other cases we see teams pay big dollars for a FA only to have that player disappoint while a much more modestly priced rookie produces far more.
You have to look at it in a case by case basis imo.
Money does make the world go round
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good free agent
The trifecta has always gone for the good free agents that are a cheaper then the elite ones. We got a WR that could not run a corner that could not cover and a safety playing out of position.
Each time they shot themselves in the foot trying to save money. That why I love this year!!! They really only went after one free agent hard and they reeled him in. They paid top dollar but they won’t regret it later when Dansby continues to be the star that he is.
I agree I think $10 million for a game changer is better than two $5 million crappy players.
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by Weecho85 on Apr 7, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This^
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This petition thing is a dead horse now guys, plus do you think Parcells cares about our puny mortal opinions? I sure wouldn’t
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Hmmmph...
I have it from a reliable source that Parcells has one of his men on this site regularly, taking the pulse of Fins nation and looking for insight….
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It would be very interexting to see the ratios of the 5 best and 5 worst teams over that span. IMO the better drafting teams find more starters or big contributors rounds 3-4-5 than most do.

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