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Quick Roundup: Dolphins add Misi & Jerry; will convert Starks to nose

I bet nobody else saw this coming. On a night where the Dolphins added two potential starters via the draft, the highlight of the night came very late when general manager Jeff Ireland announced for the first time that the Dolphins have also filled their need at nose tackle. And the player was already on Miami's roster.

Here are my quick thoughts on Friday night's developments as well as what to look for on Saturday:

  • We all knew that the Dolphins had to address the nose tackle position in some way this offseason. Jason Ferguson is aging, coming off of a rather serious injury, and is suspended for the first eight games of the year. Paul Soliai, meanwhile, has been inconsistent and probably will never be anything more than a solid role player. But nobody probably expected the Dolphins to look in-house to solve their need. When Miami drafted Jared Odrick on Thursday night, some fans thought he'd be a potential nose tackle candidate. But as I said, Odrick was brought in here because he was the best 3-4 defensive end available in the draft. But now Odrick's selection, which puzzled some, now makes perfect sense. The Dolphins will not only shift Randy Starks to the nose, but he's already penciled in as the starter at the position. At 6'3, 305 pounds, he's roughly the same size as Ferguson and Jay Ratliff were when Bill Parcells drafted them to play the nose. And Randy, to his credit, is happy to make the move. When Tony Sparano told him of their plans, Randy reportedly said that he's "at home in there." And this isn't some "fly-by-night" decision. It goes as far back as the Senior Bowl, according to Ireland - which coincidentally is when Miami really fell in love with Odrick. I love the move and I'm excited to see how Randy handles the new role.
  • I really like the selection of Koa Misi because of how versatile he looks to be. Yes, the Dolphins need to generate a pass rush and Misi will have to do some of that. But Miami had a lot of trouble covering backs and tight ends and Misi said he's very comfortable dropping into coverage. I expect Misi to start from week one at outside linebacker. I just hope fans don't put too much pressure on him right away. Unfortunately for Misi, though, he's going to be linked to Jason Taylor this year. If Taylor has a better year in NY than Misi does down in Miami, you can bet this front office will hear it - as unfair as that is considering Koa will be learning a new position.

Star-divide

  • John Jerry is also changing positions. He played on the right side of the line at Mississippi but will be asked to play left guard in Miami (coincidentally, that's the spot Justin Smiley holds...or held). I like the pick of Jerry because I think he will improve this line's run-blocking. That's his strength. He's a mauler - a massive mauler, actually. It'll be interesting to see if he can win a starting job right from the beginning. But whether he does or doesn't, expect Jerry to start at some point in 2010 and be a long-term answer at the position for years to come.
  • For all the criticism fans are spewing at this front office, does anyone realize how many holes they have filled this offseason? Star wide receiver? Check. Inside linebacker? Check. Nose tackle? Check. Outside linebacker? Check. Depth along the interior offensive line? Check. Core special teamer? Check. So what's left? I would be looking for the Dolphins to address many of the following positions: tight end (Dennis Pitta or Aaron Hernandez are two possibilities), free safety, a cornerback who can replace Nathan Jones and be a special teams contributor, a return man, another outside linebacker who can play special teams, and more depth along both lines. Don't sleep on Miami adding a late-round running back, either.
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    Everything is falling into place my pretties!!!

    MUAHAHHAHAHAHA yeah I’m tired but so excited!!!

    by Maguss on Apr 24, 2010 2:39 AM EDT reply actions  

    RB's!!! Anthony Dixon!!!

    Brandon Marshall!!! Next stop SuperBowl!!!
    Master Phinja, accepting anybody to the clan!!!
    IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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    by Weecho85 on Apr 24, 2010 2:42 AM EDT reply actions  

    when u switch Starks to NT in

    Madden10 his rating goes up to 94 i think and is in the top 5 in the entire league lol, i was wondering when they were going to do this. I am lovin’ these picks, jerry is peria’s brother and is a beast, Misi will be our OLB and is really solid, along with odrick, now if we can get reshad jones and a TE i will give an A+ on this draft. I like how Parcells and ireland are taking Football players over just athletes if u read the analysis on these guys, they’re all the same, tough, hard nose, high motor, smart, physical, versatile etc.

    "Bad cops Rico, theres nothing lower"

    by sonnycrockett on Apr 24, 2010 2:59 AM EDT reply actions  

    not only smart versatile, etc...

    but they all seem to be healthy, and not injury-prone, and can play 3 downs if necessary without getting winded….I like the draft so far!

    by cordy_1971 on Apr 24, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Madden doesn't have seperate ratings for DT's

    compared to NT’s, so its basically saying that Starks is a 94 DT, it also says Joey Porter is a 99 DE

    by kozam9707 on Apr 24, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Like the versatility

    And we have Nolan pulling the strings.
    Pitta, Blount, Williams at WR or Ford
    who can return. Atowge FS.

    by phishsf on Apr 24, 2010 2:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

    This makes me feel better

    I guess it hasn’t been as obvious as prior drafts. I have been a little confused so far. I’m quite glad that Ireland allayed all our suspicions. That was good of the FO.

    Dolphins and Gators baby!

    by gatorfin on Apr 24, 2010 3:15 AM EDT reply actions  

    At first i was upset, but after hearing what our FO has planned im really excited about this draft. Starks has the ability to play great at the nose. Maybe Cam Thomas to add depth in the 4th. Ferg might be gone next year and it seems like the FO isnt comfortable with Solai. Is safety Chad jones still available? 5th rnd maybe.

    by PhinsAllDay on Apr 24, 2010 3:20 AM EDT reply actions  

    I am fairly pleased with how things are going so far......

    However, I will be watching closely as to how well Baltimore does with their two 2nd round selections (Kindle and Cody). There will be a lot of questions arising if those two guys turn out to be better than our moves on defense.

    by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 24, 2010 3:23 AM EDT reply actions  

    we didn't need or like Cody and kindle has major inj. concerns, our picks are way better

    cody and kindle are overrated and im sooo glad we didn’t take either

    "Bad cops Rico, theres nothing lower"

    by sonnycrockett on Apr 24, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

    This may not be the best comparison but

    wouldn’t that be like adding a 250hp NOS shot to both a Top Fuel Dragster and a Ford Mustang then questioning why the Mustang still couldn’t keep up?

    I mean they do have Ngata,Lewis,Suggs and Reed already there and ANYONE you add to that core group would have to look great…I’m a homer and all but even I don’t hold our D in such high regard.

    by firedanhenningnow on Apr 24, 2010 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Excellent points.

    I also didn’t like the tape I saw on Cody, but Kindle looked really good.

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    by joel311 on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

    At first i was upset, but after hearing what our FO has planned im really excited about this draft. Starks has the ability to play great at the nose. Maybe Cam Thomas to add depth in the 4th. Ferg might be gone next year and it seems like the FO isnt comfortable with Solai. Is safety Chad jones still available? 5th rnd maybe.

    by PhinsAllDay on Apr 24, 2010 3:26 AM EDT reply actions  

    no crap!?

    i’m really liking the odrick pick now, should make an impact

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    by Kdog92 on Apr 24, 2010 5:12 AM EDT reply actions  

    thank you

    all i needed was to take a step back away from the draft and rumors and the news and all the sh*t and come back and read this with an open mind and feel so much better about our draft.

    by KingOnSlaught on Apr 24, 2010 5:18 AM EDT reply actions  

    Beefing up the O-line...

    Adds precious time for Henne to find you-know-who down field!!!

    by NC Livin! MIA Born and Bred! on Apr 24, 2010 5:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

    You mean Ginn?

    oh wait he is in SF now, no matter, Henne can throw it that far.

    Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

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    by PhinsTifosi on Apr 24, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

    lol

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    by joel311 on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Makes a lot more sense needs-wise

    could this be misinformation in an attempt to have Cam Thomas fall? I would rather just stick Starks in there and go FS or OLB again… Still don’t feel too comfortable with just Wake, Anderson and Misi

    by Ham420 on Apr 24, 2010 6:01 AM EDT reply actions  

    devone bess?? lol

    and about randy going nose tackle..
    i use him there in madden for the past 3 months..
    hes a beast..
    so i thought tony would put him there aswell..try it out in madden..he jumps up to like 93 overall

    the gr8 1

    by dolfan702 on Apr 24, 2010 6:02 AM EDT reply actions  

    >>> MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION <<<

    whaaat current pro bowler and top 3 talent on his position was selected, coached and transformer from DE to NT after the starting NT (also currently on our roster) got injured

    taraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    DALLAS COWBOYS – NT – JAY RATCLIFF

    moving Starks inside is a tremendous move, Starks is 26, got the frame and power to disrupt the whole interior

    our strenght just became a force

    its not just that we got EVEN bigger up front – its the versitality

    STARKS, McDANIELS, ODRIK – all 3 can play NT/DT and DE

    i still expect a lot of Soliai as NT on 1st downs, Starks can kick outside and play DE
    Soliai comes off the field and Starks kicks inside
    by that our best DLine player lines up all over the OL and the opponents cant prepare for him and have to look out where is lining up and where he might come from.

    i wasnt flashed by the pick of Odrik first, thought was very solid but unspectacular by now i gotta say our offseasons is a freaking masterplan

    for all the FS crybabies – its going to be OJ Atogwe so chill out. i see us selecting even a SS before a FS.

    THE TRADE RUMOURS WITH THE DETROIT LIONS FOR – CLIFF AVRIL

    i reaaaaaalllyyyy hope that move still gets done!!!! he is better than all OLB players available and even fits our mold betterthan all OLB prospects of the whole draft class.

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    6’3 – 265
    24 years old
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    40 yd dash: 4.51
    bench press: 27
     20 ss: 4.31
    3-cone: 6.91
    Vertical: 32.5
    Broad: 9’09
    Wonderlic: 17

    NFL production:

    Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
    G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
    2009 Detroit Lions 13 11 41 27 14 5.5 — 3 - - 0.0 - - 3
    2008 Detroit Lions 15 4 23 18 5 5.0 — 0 - - 0.0 - - 4
    TOTAL 64 45 19 10.5 0 3 0 0 — 0 0 7

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 6:14 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

    i dont think Misi will be linked to JT.

    I hope fans are smarter than that. JT is at the end. even if he was resigned, olb would still be a need.

    2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
    Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!

    by phatfinfan on Apr 24, 2010 6:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

    He has been idolized for so long that some fans find it hard to let it go.

    Not me.

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    by joel311 on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

    shucks i let go when he was traded to washington he came back he wasen't as good as the year befor we traded him so i was always looking for sparks from another player it seams all the time!

    sure i rooted for him & when he got that first sack i got up & roard at my tv set Martha lookat me & said how can a beaver of your stature roar so loud hehehe!

    by wild zion beaver on Apr 25, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

    Decent moves today.

    but i love whats the eagles have done. They got Nate Allen my number 1 fs in the second. Then they traded down in the third to get my number 1 olb Te’o . Thats exactly what I wanted us to do. However, the Koa Misi pick was awesome (my 2nd olb) and i didn’t expect us to get him. I don’t know how i feel about Starks at NT. So we shall see how it plays out. If the Eagles pick Scott Long mid 4th they should pay me :)

    TY Bill for BM!
    We need defense! NT FS OLB's
    we could move W.Allen to FS if we have to.

    by 54 on Apr 24, 2010 6:18 AM EDT reply actions  

    Randy Starks @ NT

    Randy Starks = Jay Ratliff 2.0

    dont forgett we are adjusting our Defense
    the so called NT wont line up over the Center too often

    thats why we are not looking for a fat piece of ass to plug the middle and more of an
    atlethic freak in the middle.

    there is NOBODY who i like more watching inside than Ratliff

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I didn’t say it wont work out and i know about Ratliff. I’m just taking a wait and see approach

    TY Bill for BM!
    We need defense! NT FS OLB's
    we could move W.Allen to FS if we have to.

    by 54 on Apr 24, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

    i understand and im not saying he is going to go to the pro bowl

    i guess we can see it as a 8 game experimental + he will still play DE

    the thing i like is that he doesnt need to change his body or add weight that way its a low risk high reward project. and Starks already played quiet a bit of NT/DT its not new to him

    what i like about that move – NOBODY had a clue that we are going this direction and expected the Fins to draft diffrently

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I agree. That’s a lot of moving pieces so getting everything going in the same direction will be tough. We’ll see how it works. I do like the theory behind it though, especially since I like the 3-4/4-3 more than I do a straight 3-4.

    by evenflow58 on Apr 24, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I have been screaming this Starks move more months!!!

    Over the years Randy has played the Nose many times. Every time he was in there he made plays. He has a great jump off the snap and posses the techniques that many of the successful NT’s in the league use to disrupt the middle. He is much faster than most NT’s and his quickness is his key asset. He lines up properly and routinely jumps the A gap between center and guard to break into the backfield right off the snap. His signature move is an “arm over center” move and it really works with his combo of speed and size. I feel I definately saw this move coming and I am excited for him to get his opportunity to show his stuff to everyone.

    by labrat3105 on Apr 24, 2010 6:27 AM EDT reply actions  

    Looking at the 2010 draft from a slighly different (non-Madden) angle.

    And with the 28th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins select….two thirds of a Defensive line.

    Randy Starks – an NFL ready Pro-Bowl level defensive tackle with no injury/attitude/weight/one-year-wonder concerns.

    Jared Odrick – the best 3-4 end propect in the draft. Prototypical Parcells Player…big, smart, relentless….think Leonard Marshall

    With the 40th pick the Miami Dolphins select:

    Koa Misi – SOLB – another Parcells type (nasty- smart-relentless) with Nolanian characteristics – versitile…can play up or down – think Carl Banks

    With the 43rd pick the Miami Dolphins select:

    Brandon Marshall – Receiver prospect out of Central Florida by way of Denver…another Parcells player – Big, fights for the ball – catches 100 of them every year on his way to the Pro Bowl while setting an NFL record on occasion…..word is the kid’s a player.

    With the 73rd Pick the Miami Dolphins select;

    Jerry Jones John Jerry – Monster OLine with run first maul D-line men mentality.

    You could even throw Dansby and Incognito into this mix as an undrafted free agents.

    So that’s five players in three rounds…two of them pro-bowlers ….that’s a pretty good two days at the office.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 6:32 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

    this offseason

    thats exactly what im saying.

    it took me a while because the players we picked arent the flashy ones and big names like we did last year but to me it looks exactly like the 2008 draft – which was huuuge and our best + the best in all NFL

    - Mike Nolan
    3-4 / hybrid genius, attacking DCoordinator who dictates games
    = best fit / what we wanted

    - BRANDON MARSHALL
    pro bowler & best young wr in the nfl
    = major need filled, helps develope 3 possible ro bowl talent in Henne, Davis, Smith
    mentors wr, opens up run game

    - KARLOS DANSBY
    he is miamis answer of Patrick Willis, cornerstone of our defense, can blitz, can cover TEs and is a pure playmaker. this move allowes also to move Crowder and use his strenghts vs run

    - RICHIE ICOGNITO
    pro bowl talent at OG, he got baggage and question marks but talentwise he is a top 5 guard

    - DOBBINS
    special teams ace and was even as back up the chargers 2nd best ILB, all over the field type of guy, very physical, hard hitter and forces turnovers. he will push crowder and has upside to become a starter

    - ODRICK, MISI, JERRY
    might not be the sexiest and flashiest names but they are very healthy for our roster, reliable and all have upside

    the thing i love the most is
    OUR OLINE
    was one of the most physical and dominant last season
    check the size/measures of our new oline
    Garner, Icognito, Jerry – who ever is going to start is much bigger and an upgrade over
    Smiley/Thomas

    Thomas is a beast and can really still become a good starter but needs to work on pass coverage and blitz pick up – thats where we struggled last season.

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

    One of the things I like about the FO is they're not afraid to make mid-course adjustments.

    We all know there’s the Parcells’ Plan…but obviously there’s enough flexibility within to grab tallent when it become available.

    We can call grabbing Pennington in 2008 a – No brainer just as we could getting Nolan this year. But we didn’t set out to get them, they suddenly became avaibalbe and we pounced.

    I got the sense that Odrick was not necessarily “Plan B” but one of several options they were looking at depending on who went where.

    I’m liking the Jerry pick…I keep thinking of those massive Dallas OLines..and the thing about Thomas is…many of us have played more football than he has…he played all of two games in high school and walked on halfway through his college career at UConn…he still has a hugh upside.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    That would be "huge"

    Hugh Upside is a OLB prospect at Lower New Mexico Secretarial and Menial.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

    who??

    Crap ... I don't know who we take ... I think we were betting that Cody would be available and that the Ravens didn't need a NT... but dominant defenses stay dominant by building depth at those crucial positions. Cam Thomas? Everson Griffen? Jimmy Graham??

    by Jason Scott_90 on Apr 24, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Yep

    And he’s a 3 way player can loine up at WR and is a Special Teams Ace..kind of a cross between Hugh Green and a side of Rick Upchurch

    by Blue or CONKZILLA on Apr 24, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

    he’s a 3 way player

    I think what he does on his own time is really his business

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Well...

         I am not sure if this was the absolute plan or this happened because we weren’t able to grab Cody… But I like the guys we took so far. I think moving Starks can be a good solution especially if we are running a hybrid 3-4/4-3 which would work to confuse opposing offenses. On a moment’s notice our front 4 could easily be Langford, Starks, Odrick and Wake. You have to love that lineup.
         I think we could use some depth at NT still though and I hope that we can get Cam Thomas to slip to us. I think the addition of a true NT would be really good for us in certain situations, but then again, there is no telling if he could be an upgrade over Soliai or not. At this point though there is no telling how far he would drop since most teams that needed/wanted a NT have filled that need already, and even teams that didn’t really even need a NT added one(Ravens).
         I like the pick of Jerry, and I heard them mention that he played RT. Could he be the evenetual replacement for Carey?? They only him resigned last year in free agency after they tried and failed to find a better replacement. He was the best guy they could find, but I don’t think they were really in love with how well he played. If we go with another interior O-lineman I think Carey may be on his way out, possibly in a trade?
         Lots of FS’s out there still to be had and at this point in the draft everyone got their FS and some of these guys could even last until the 6th or 7th round. If we don’t come out of the draft with one of these guys though, I expect it is because we are going to go hard after either OJ Atogwe once he becomes an UFA or Sharper as a consolation if we can’t get OJ. I think if Sharper was our first choice though we wouldn’t have waited around and we would already have him on our team.

    Crap ... I don't know who we take ... I think we were betting that Cody would be available and that the Ravens didn't need a NT... but dominant defenses stay dominant by building depth at those crucial positions. Cam Thomas? Everson Griffen? Jimmy Graham??

    by Jason Scott_90 on Apr 24, 2010 6:50 AM EDT reply actions  

    NT

    bro the plan was never to select cody or get a big piece of ass type of NT

    we are switching to more of a hybrid 3-4 where the “NT” isnt lined up over the Center so you need atlethic guy who can run and fly around, be present all over the interior OLine

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

    In that case I find it funny ...

    That we came out and said that Odrick could play inside or outside and today suddenly it was the plan to have Starks play NT all along? I think this was the contigency plan, but I do not think this was the main plan. I think they liked this kid Odrick enough that they were willing to live with not getting Cody… so … I have to be happy about that at least …

    Crap ... I don't know who we take ... I think we were betting that Cody would be available and that the Ravens didn't need a NT... but dominant defenses stay dominant by building depth at those crucial positions. Cam Thomas? Everson Griffen? Jimmy Graham??

    by Jason Scott_90 on Apr 24, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Not quite following you here

    Both Cody and Kindle were available when we took Odrick..obviously we liked him more than them ..no?

    Hey.. if Cam Cameron has any influence in the Ravens drafting doesn’t that automatically make Kindle and Cody bad picks???

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I am pretty sure they were thinking...

    That at least one of the NTs that were available when they picked in the 2nd round would be there in the 3rd round, but I could be wrong….. We’ll have to wait and see…

    Crap ... I don't know who we take ... I think we were betting that Cody would be available and that the Ravens didn't need a NT... but dominant defenses stay dominant by building depth at those crucial positions. Cam Thomas? Everson Griffen? Jimmy Graham??

    by Jason Scott_90 on Apr 24, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Might well be right...

    so a gamble that they’d keep falling didn’t pay off…or they really didn’t like Cody.

    As you say ..time will tell.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

    the master plan

    was letting nobody know what the master plan was

    isnt that typical Ireland/Parcells/Sparano-ish???

    Brandon Marshall anybody?
    No we are not going to cut ties with Gibril Wilson…neeeexxxxtttt

    :)

    Ireland could easily be the main actor for “LIE TO ME”

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

    "play inside or outside"

    What was meant here is that Odrick will kick inside on passing downs. He was never meant to play NT.

    by Matty I on Apr 24, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I forgot one thing ...

    We could also go with Misi, Langford, Odrick and Starks as down linemen…. Then switch to a 3-4 before the snap…. or switch the other way ….

    Crap ... I don't know who we take ... I think we were betting that Cody would be available and that the Ravens didn't need a NT... but dominant defenses stay dominant by building depth at those crucial positions. Cam Thomas? Everson Griffen? Jimmy Graham??

    by Jason Scott_90 on Apr 24, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Get a little giddy thinking about things like this.

    Cam Wake has got to be drooling right about now.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I'm agreeing with you on the last paragraph matty

    how can you call yourself an phin fan, if your criticizing this FO. They are very smart at picking hidden gems in the later rounds so lets see what we can do.

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    by Kdog92 on Apr 24, 2010 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

    Anyone think we'll trade smiley?

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    by Kdog92 on Apr 24, 2010 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

    At this point I'd hope we do....

    What are the options if we don’t?…release him…and get nothing to show for it..or:

    “Hey Justin,, Jeff here….Jeff Ireland….you know, the guy who told you not to show up because we don’t need you anymore. Ya…well …we really didn’t mean it and we’d love to have you back at Davie….sorry?…what?…gee…ah.. I don’t think I’m flexible enough to do that.”

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

    unless, as has been said here a few times,

    Smiley knew the plan. Let him rest his injury a little more, and let Incognito get acclimated.

    Dolphins and Gators baby!

    by gatorfin on Apr 24, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Be good if that's the way it is...I hope you're right.

    I like Smiley..he comes across as a bright guy and when he’s healthy he’s one of the better pulling guards in the league.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Smiley Trade

    i hope we ship him for a 4th or to Detroit for OLB Cliff Avril

    i just hope we stay away from Gylliard or what his name is….didnt flash me at all

    what we need:
    - WR who can stretch the field – Mike Williams would be a steal
    - FS (hopefully Atogwe)
    - SS (depth + future Bell replacement)
    - TE (who can stretch the field/receiver) => if they arent sold on Sperry
    - CB
    - Return Specialist (best case CB or WR)

    other players i like
    - RB Blount
    - TE Hernandez
    - CB Cox

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

    At Safety...

    How about Chad Jones or Barry Church? (if they haven’t been picked)

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    by Alpha6 on Apr 24, 2010 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

    Im starting the draft Myron Rolle project!!

    Dude is a football player and hes freakin smart
    one year playin wit a vet and he could become something good noit great
    but a good defensive leader too

    by DirtyRich305 on Apr 24, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Holy. Rolle is still on the board?

    Definetly should be on the radar in this round…..

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    by Alpha6 on Apr 24, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

    rolle is slow, slow, slow

    and could possibly have outside interests. being a Rhodes Scholar and all

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    by 2madison9 on Apr 24, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

    It's like being smart is an injury.

    Pat Haden was a Rhodes Scholar and played in the NFL until he couldn’t play anymore. He’s now a a lawyer. a partner in an investment firm in LA and a broadcaster. The first can happen on brains alone…I don’t think the second two happen without playing in the NFL.

    If I’m a Rhodes Scholar wouldn’t I want to pursue a highly paying job which projected me into the national spotlight on a weekly basis for the next 10 years?

    If Rolle is good enough to make it and stay in the NFL it seems to me the “smart” thing to do is ride that pony for all it’s worth.

    I don’t know if he can play at the next level but intellegence and study can make up for a lack of pure speed…Dick Anderson springs to mind.

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I'm liking Norwood over Rolle...

    Both would be good options however.
    I think in the 4th we go TE however.

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    BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
    Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
    Its going to be a long night for my wife.

    by Fr8Train on Apr 24, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Ah, yes.

    Forgot about this guy. He would be a terrific pick-up!!

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    by Alpha6 on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I hop we land him

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    by Patssuck456 on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Everyone who argued with me

    about Starks being a good fit at NT can now forward their arguments to our FO who seems to agree with me. : )

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    by Sean13 on Apr 24, 2010 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

    I am interested to see if the Starks move is an overall plus to the DL or a minus.

    I am usually not of fan of moving the best player at a position (Starks is Miami’s best DE) to another position to make room for a worse player. That being said, I am a fan of getting the best players on the field, regardless of position. So I will be interested in seeing if the DL is better by this move.

    So far, with the knowledge of a defensive “change” to a hybrid and with the Starks move, I like this draft. Odrick makes sense at #28. I really like Misi at #40. Jerry in the 3rd is a solid pick. The Phins have a glut at guard now with Smiley, Incognito, Thomas, Gardner and Jerry. I would assume that two of these guys will be gone by training camp.

    Nice draft so far. I think that they are going to go RB and WR / Return guy somewhere in rounds 4-7. I wouldn’t count on much help at FS. I don’t think there are any left.

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    by ct1361 on Apr 24, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

    moving Starsk

    i agree that moving the best player is dangerous.

    but in the case of Starks….leaving TEN he was playing DT.
    he played even NT and got the background

    and the most important point…there is no risk he doesnt need to change body, rex ryan up weight or something. if it doesnt work….he can be moved back.

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

    There's one FS project left

    Akwasi Owusu-Ansah

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    by PhrozenPhish on Apr 24, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

    agreeeeee

    specially because he could play CB, FS and is a special teams ace (returner)

    he is def on the radar

    by Crowder 911 on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I think TE Dennis Pitta would be an absolute steal if the Dolphins get him....

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    by Alpha6 on Apr 24, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

    Yet another smokescreen?

    Hey the draft is not over, so it is an odd time to be announcing who your “new starting NT is”. Anybody else feel this could be one last misdirection attempt by Ireland to make other teams think we aren’t going NT, so that the last NT falls to us? I would really like to see the Starks move happen, but for as many surprises I have seen out of our FO, I am now looking at everything like a chess game, 3-5 moves ahead.

    by Dolphriend on Apr 24, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

    I REALLY hope we get Aaron Hernandez

    The kid is quick, has hands of glue, and is powerful. Frankly I’m surprised he has fallen this far because I feel like he has Tony Gonzalez written all over him.

    Did he have attitude issues or something? Or do people just not need future pro bowler TEs this year? >_>

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    by ratenxs on Apr 24, 2010 9:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

    no he has off the field issues

    and he cant block but boy is he a vertical threat in the passing game

    Momma Said Knock You Out

    by Deuce Black on Apr 24, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

    what off the field issues?

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    by Weecho85 on Apr 24, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

    i dont know i heard mike mayoc say it

    but the kid will be a steal from this point on

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    by Deuce Black on Apr 24, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I havent heard of any issues with this kid and I live in Gainesville

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    by Weecho85 on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Just one question..

    Where is my boy at?

    I am one pick away from wiining a well deserved post and I don’t wanna miss it.

    We’ve taken 1 OLB and I don’t think we are going OLB with our next pick soooo……

    I don’t want him going into hiding.-)

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    by Neo on Apr 24, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

    I want a RB

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    by Weecho85 on Apr 24, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

    I want a S, TE, RB, speed WR

    in that order

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    by Neo on Apr 24, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

    you would take blount over dwyer?

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    by 2madison9 on Apr 24, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

    The longer the draft goes

    the more i see us getting Jacoby Ford or Trindin Holliday as a WR/KR
    Ford remind me of Ted Ginn quick and shifty but with better hands and doesnt go out of bounds every play
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    holliday is just a bolt of lightning and can cut on a dime on a kick return he would get lost behind players and the other team wont even see where he is cuz he is so small
    have a look tell me what you guys think
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    Either way they both can fly and we wont miss tedd ginn on special teams with either of these guys

    by DirtyRich305 on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

    wouldn't mind Jacoby Ford

    at all.

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    by Neo on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Either hm or Holiday would be good picks

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    by Patssuck456 on Apr 24, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

    Can they wear a Dolphins jersey?

    Yes! Then i’m happy!

    I’m content in the knowledge that I don’t know more about talent or evaluation than does the front office…in fact, probably any of the NFLs front offices (Giving the Raiders the benefit of the doubt, as someone said there’s a pretty good chance they WON’T get another “F” for this years draft so congrats to Al). When I do gain such abilities, I suspect that my phone will ring. Til then, I really just watch and enjoy.

    I really read the posts by people who complain about a certain selection and laugh.

    All I know is there are new Dolphins players and roster holes are getting filled. Eff yeah. Bring on training camp.

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    by mikem1224 on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

    If I remember correctly Matty...

    You were one of those people questioning the front office. Funny how quickly things change.

    I used to think I had a drinking problem.
    So I stopped thinking.

    by luvs2drnk on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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