NFL Draft 2010: What to watch for on Friday night
by Matty I on Apr 23, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
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PrintRound one of the 2010 NFL Draft was as unpredictable as ever. On Friday night when rounds two and three are held, I expect more of the same.
With Jimmy Clausen and Colt McCoy still on the board and over 18 hours between the conclusion of round one and the start of round two, it's likely that there will be quarterback-needy teams looking to move up into the top couple of picks. For us Dolphin fans, that's exactly what we have to hope for.
Make no mistake about it, there are still some very talented players out there. And the more guys like Clausen, McCoy, and Charles Brown that get taken before the Dolphins pick at #40, the better. Only seven players will come off the board before Miami is on the clock tonight. That means the Dolphins could have their pick from guys like Sergio Kindle, Terrence Cody, Taylor Mays (hopefully not), Nate Allen, Everson Griffen, and many more.
I believe that the biggest reason Miami's first round pick - Jared Odrick - is coming under so much fire from fans is because it didn't address a "position of need." You know what - that's fair. The Dolphins still NEED a starting free safety. They NEED at least one, and maybe two, pass-rushing linebackers. And they might NEED a nose tackle - if Odrick is not going to handle those duties on a regular basis.
As it stands now, the Dolphins have pick 40 and pick 73 overall (or the 8th pick and the 41st pick of the night). There are going to be some good players left. And these are the rounds where championship teams hit on their picks.
So who might be targeted by the Dolphins? If we learned anything from the unpredictable events of last night, it's that we really have no idea what these teams are thinking. But I'd say we should keep tabs on the following guys:
OLBs - Sergio Kindle, Everson Griffen, Thaddeus Gibson, Corey Wooten, Koa Misi, Ricky Sapp, Jason Worilds
S - Taylor Mays (hopefully not), Nate Allen, Morgan Burnett, Chad Jones, Major Wright, Reshad Jones
TE - Rob Gronkowski, Dennis Pitta, Aaron Hernandez, Jimmy Graham
CB - Chris Cook, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
And no, I'm not crazy thinking about corners. Those two are prime candidates, thanks to their size, to convert to free safety.
But those are just some of the guys who could be potential targets. Of course, like I said above, last night proved that nothing is as predictable as we make it seem. So just sit back and enjoy as rounds two and three unfold.
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can everson griffen play olb?
if so i hope hes our pick big boy that can be coached up
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
IMO, He's the 2nd best OLB prospect in the entire draft behind Matty's beloved Jerry Hughes.
Writer at MockingTheDraft.com. Does this make me a "Draft Expert"? lol.
He's got the size Parcell loves.
Everson, Koa Misi, Nate Allen, Major Write, or trade down in the third for Te’o-Nesheim. I would love for to hear we get anyone of these players. But tonight maybe just as unpredictable as last night. Can’t wait to see who’s next.
TY Bill for BM!
We need defense! NT FS OLB's
we could move W.Allen to FS if we have to.
by 54 on Apr 23, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolle?
''I hate every team we play, that's all there is to it. From 2o'clock until 10 or 11 o'clock at night, I don't want to be friends with the other side.''-Jake Peavy
Nate Allen, Ricky Sapp, and Jimmy Graham for us!
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
i cant wait to see what happens!
after last night, i really have no idea where there going to go. but i would think they would address the needs now. but who knows????
by phinfan20 on Apr 23, 2010 12:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Im over the Oderick pick
He’ll be embrassed and I could see him being pretty good.
In moving foward Taylor Mays OLB.
Earl Thomas, Haden, Lupati, or Gresham
There are Smith guys and Vontae guys, I got V.D.
Ginn will be awesome now, good luck JT.
I want to see who the Phins take at #40. I want to know why getting that pick was so important to the FO when every available OLB / DE was there at #12?
I didn’t like the trade down and I didn’t like the Odrick pick. I just don’t see the fit. He is the same player as Langford and Starks, so what is the upside.
The Phins can always use solid players, and I think that is what Odrick is, a solid player. But the Phins need Pro Bowl Players, difference makers and I don’t see that coming from Odrick or #40 (and history is on my side in this). So the question for me is, who will have a bigger impact in the NFL? Odrick and #40 or one of these players who were available at #12:
Earl Thomas
Brandon Graham
JPP
Derrick Morgan
Demaryius Thomas
Dez Bryant
Jerry Hughes (twice)
Just to name a few. My $$ is that one or more of those guys will be Pro Bowl players. Will Odrick? Will #40? I don’t think so. I hope I am wrong.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
well that's just it
is it better to have potentially 2 quality starters or just one pro bowl player?
Absolutely 2 quality starters. Absolutely.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
Especially when this is the DRAFT, and we have no idea how these guys are going to pan out.
I view draft picks as lottery tickets. The more, the better. The higher ones have a marginally better chance of hitting, but a higher chances of returning nothing.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
poor CJ Spiller
he coulda done soo much more but sadly, he has a wet paper towel for an Oline
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
The bills needed a quarterback in the worst way...
and they select a running back.
Grade F.
lmao
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F for Phail
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
ohhh...a different version of the word.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Does that come in as third worst?
only better than “fail” because of the Miami “ph” twist?
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1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee/1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson/1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
by Dave.Phuller on Apr 23, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah we could do that lol
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
thats why Nate Allen should go at 40!
imagine the Dime package when we have all 3 Allens on the field! lol
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
I think the Phins are past the point of needing "quality" starters
They need Pro Bowlers, difference makers. That’s the difference between the elite teams in the AFC (Ind, NE, SD) and the Phins. Those teams have multiple players capable of making the Pro Bowl.
I guess I am looking for Quality over Quantity right now. I believe that there is a much better chance at getting “Quality” at #12 instead of #28 and #40 and draft history says that’s true.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
It depends?
I’d say on offense the dolphins have enough talent that the obvious upgrades would likely be probowlers.
On defense though they have enough holes that quality starters, at say SOLB, FS, and a younger player at NT, would be big upgrades in and of themselves.
by Natalya on Apr 23, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NT
I dont think we really need an upgrade yet at NT. If we did then we would have gotten one with the 12th pick. and fergie is coming back. soli can man the fort for 8 games. FO was impressed with him last year, he just needs a little more time, more reps with the first team. look for soli to have a decent year and us to maybe take a NT in the 6-7 round, if not then you can almost be sure of the fact that odrick is going to be molded into a DE/NT hybrid of some sorts
Of course, we now know that even with Soliai the defense will be different....
So is NT “the” priority? Prolly not. I see some very good 5th, but mostly 6th round players to pick from if that’s the case.
Nolan has some shit up his sleeve to unleash on Rex’s squad, which will make me very happy….. very happy indeed!
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Wait... what???
FO was impressed with him last year, he just needs a little more time, more reps with the first team.
Soliai??
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 23, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yes soliai
tony said he did a good job last year. if they didnt have faith in him in the first 8 weeks then they would have gotten someone a definite NT not a 4-3 DT that will probably become a hybrid…i donno what nolan is thinking
I agree that the defense needs quality starters at SOLB, FS and NT
But does Odrick fill any of those? I don’t think so. Everything that I have heard and read is that he is a DE. That is why I don’t understand the pick. Maybe once some more information comes out I will understand it, but not now.
I will admit, I became a huge fan of two guys in this draft: Spiller and Earl Thomas. When Thomas was there at #12, I was ecstatic. I think he is exactly what the Phins secondary needs: a ball-hawking, pass covering, beast of a FS. And not only do I think he is going to be a beast, he fills a huge need.
If Thomas becomes a Pro Bowler, and Odrick is just a guy, I will be hugely disappointed.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Well..
The point is, theres no way of telling who will be great and who isnt.
The good news is we won’t know for a good 2 years or so.
The bad news is….see above :-)
And hey, they may draft a safety today and we shouldn’t discount that player’s, whoever he is, ability. Plenty of guys get chosen high and flop.
Granted that’s a bit of an aporia but at least worth considering.
For my coin, let’s see what we have on the table once the rest of our order is served as right now, Odrick is just the hors d’oeuvres.
Gotta build from the inside out, it’s how Parcells builds his teams. A solid front 3 or 4 is more important than any of the guys you mentioned. Remember how the G-men won their Super Bowl? With a bunch of dudes that weren’t great but were effective and got to the QB on the D-Line.
I disagree with your notion that the Phins “need” difference makers and Pro Bowl players. They need guys that are solid, unselfish players who fit the system and Odrick is it. Besides, didn’t Miami just get 2 awesome “difference makers” with Dansby and B-Marsh?
I trust in what Parcells and Ireland are doing. Just because it wasn’t a splash doesn’t mean it won’t work.
MATTEAU!!!!! MATTEAU!!!!!!! MATTEAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by stonecoldcory on Apr 23, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The FO didn't believe "building from the inside out" last year
The Phins first 5 picks in ‘09 were CB, QB, CB, WR, WR. That’s not “building from the inside out”. Plus a pass rushing, DE / OLB is part of the “inside” or front 7 of the defense.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
who cares dude.
i told you they would take a DT with the first pick
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 23, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
How do you predict Pro Bowl Players?
JT in round 4? Zach in round 5? Marino at 27 0r 28 in the first? What is that formula?
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you forgot to carry the 1
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
Aaahh,
I was just rounding down.
Btw, might as well get that Hughes sig erased…. lol
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yeah my boat is sunk
i can still go 2 for 3!!
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
I can't predict Pro Bowlers anymore than anyone else
And sure you can find Pro Bowlers anywhere. But you have to agree that most Pro Bowl players are taken high in the draft, especially if you take out the QB position.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Brandon Marshall
was taking in the fifth round! have hope
Jacoby Ford FTW with pick 73.
"It didn't take the wildcat to beat the patriots... Just a wolverine."
Odrick and rounds 2 & 3
Love the Odrick selection. The guy provides versatility and will be a 3 down player. He’ll play DE on 1st and 2nd downs and then move inside on 3rd downs. Plus, anytime a team moves to 3 WRs he can move inside. He plays a lot like Richard Seymour, and how’s he working out for the Pats?
I also love that we are going to have so many options at #40. Personally, I would be the happiest person alive if we drafted Nate Allen at #40 and Cam Thomas at #73.
Thoughts???
love the 40 pick as for 73... think with your dip stick "jimmy"...
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
Whaaaap!!!
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i dont think allen will be there at 40
philly picks ahead of us, i personally would want to trade down again into the late second and acquire another third, if allen is not there. At OLB im thinking Jermaine Cunningham in the late third early fourth.
by Anothertidbit on Apr 23, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I like where your heads at here...
Odrick was a great selection. Everyone is pissed because the guy they liked didn’t get picked. Well as we know, this front office isn’t concerned about what the fans want, if they were then JT would probably still be here. They get paid the big bucks because they know what they are doing. They are rebuilding our defense and personally I like what they are doing.
good point
give o-rock a chance, you know he was coached well at PSU. We know he was the DPOTY for PSU. i watched some highlights on him and he didnt look too impressive, but the FO knows what they are doing, in bill I trust
Clausen could fall to NE IF he falls far enough to reach one of their 3 picks
that would solidify their QB situation when Brady retires
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
someone run down what is wrong with Taylor Mays please?
I keep seeing people say No no no! but i haven’t looked into him enough to know why.
can someone give me a quick reason? I need some work reading hehe.
"If you want to, we can throw all day." - Chad Henne
he's short, liability in coverage, hits like a freight train which makes his shelf life significantly lower and would play a SS better than a centerfield FS
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
They say he's too bulky and stiff
Big hits, no football IQ and poor coverage skills. Good MLB for a 4-3 perhaps…
be suprised
if neither of these guys gets picked up by miami. i mean who saw us getting odrick? he wasnt even on our draft board for the phinsider. expect the unexpected!
who saw the raiders getting Rolando?
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
not me!
that was the first pick that really surprised me
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
and, go figure,
it was actually a decent pick! the Raiders picking a decent guy? no one EVER sees that coming
i think they made a mistake and left their mic one while discussing it
and Goddell just made out McClain so he assumed.. lol
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
Considering the logjam at DE
I’ve heard so many theories on who might convert to where, and my guess is that Odrick will be groomed by Fergie through training camp and given reps at NT. He can add 10 pounds easy. I’ve also heard of Merling taking the Roth route and going SOLB. I can’t say what’s going to happen but we all know something will. Someone’s being traded, or someone’s being converted, or both!
id rather Merling convert to SOLB than trade him
he’s an excellent player
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
Roth's big knock was stubby arms and lack of athleticism
Seems like Merling doesn’t have those problems…..They did try Vonnie out at SOLB! Who knows? Dropping Merling right now for a 4th or something, even a third, would bum me out…
Matty, can we just have all those guys on your watch list?
that would be good
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 23, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
... to wash down the peyote he's eating...
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ill bring the doggie bag
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
Akwasi would be righteous...
Corner, Safety and Return Specialist…. oh yeah baby!!!
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Paleez... you know who
If you need a jogger, just ask any Jet Fan about him… LOL!
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
that'd be an Al Davis move
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
At this point nothing would suprise me.
I did learn one thing this year through the FA period and the first round of the draft. I and the majority of the people in here don’t know squat about what this FO is gonna do! Frankly we squabble and rant about nearly every option we can think of and we are still off by about a billion percent!
by labrat3105 on Apr 23, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yep, but you have to concede
that it ISN’T because we don’t know football or the team… but rather because the Triad keeps changing things up and is very good at keeping the changes secret. =)
That means that even the other teams, and scouts are caught off guard as well.
Well played by the Triad!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tate perhaps?
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I'm guessing you pet cats backwards......
lol
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
WTF is that supposed to mean, Alpha?
I’m a cat owner and I love to stroke the pussy…are you telling me there is a wrong way? lol
boy are YOU naïve!
of course there is a wrong way!
you want to stroke it smooth, not ruffle the fur!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Like from front to back?
Not from back to front? LOL…my pussy likes it either way.
i'd like Kindle and Owusa-ansah
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I can;t believe these 2nd rd picks so far. No wonder these teams sucked last year and will do next year.
I feel like starting a facebook support group fopr Jimmy Clausen.
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