Teddy Gone: Dolphins trade Ginn for 5th round pick
by Matty I on Apr 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT
in 2012 Miami Dolphins News
Email
PrintAs you probably already know, the Dolphins have traded WR Ted Ginn Jr to the 49ers in return for a fifth round pick. And with this, only two players still remain on the roster from the 2007 NFL Draft.
The fifth round pick received by the Dolphins recoups the one they shipped to Kansas City in exchange for QB Tyler Thigpen last season. So essentially, the Dolphins swapped Ginn for Thigpen. Pretty terrible when you remember that Ginn was the 9th overall pick of the '07 draft.
But like many have said since then - and even at the time o the selection - Ginn was a major reach in the top 10 that season. But Randy Mueller and Cam Cameron made the questionable pick - and then promptly lost their jobs after they won only one game during the ensuing season.
I will admit that I felt like the Dolphins should have kept Ginn for at least one more season. I really believed that his vertical speed on the opposite side of Brandon Marshall could really result in the occasional big play. For all his faults, teams do have to respect Ginn's deep speed. And having to also account for Marshall now, Ginn could have been a dangerous weapon - albeit in a reduced role.
A change of scenery should do Teddy some good. And I do wish him the best. After all, it's not his fault he was picked so high. Blame Cam Cam and company for that giant mistake.
The Dolphins do now have a void that has to be filled. Who returns kicks and punts now? There are some options on the roster already. Some of those names, though - guys like Ryan Grice-Mullen and Julius Pruitt - probably have to prove they can contribute more than on just returns. After all, the Dolphins already have four receivers who will be active each week - Marshall, Davone Bess, Brian Hartline, and Greg Camarillo.
I guess we'll find out in a week if the Dolphins have a plan as to what to do about their return man situation.
For coverage from the Niners perspective, head over to Niners Nation.
261 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
This next season is gonna be great.
Brandon Marshall!!! Next stop SuperBowl!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
Damn, I will miss him..... (In John Madden 2011)
There goes my 98 speed threat in John Madden football…. LOL So long Ted (HOLY SH*T THE FOOTSTEPS ARE COMING) Ginn jr..
I did see on another forum that he hasn’t made it to San Francisco yet because he couldn’t catch the plane in time. wah wah wah
Just another knee slapper….
lol
Brandon Marshall!!! Next stop SuperBowl!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
first
we were able to get the same pick that the steeler’s got for a suberbowl mvp in S. holmes not such a bad trade. especially if we get M. williams, the speedy seracuse reciever, with the pick
starting the lagarret blount "you got knocked the F**k out" bandwagon
lol nope I was
Brandon Marshall!!! Next stop SuperBowl!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
gg
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
yeah yeah
so what
starting the lagarret blount "you got knocked the F**k out" bandwagon
by frostyphinfan on Apr 16, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ginn being traded is a post
one can be proud of being 1st on too.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
lol you claimed it I just had to rub it in
Brandon Marshall!!! Next stop SuperBowl!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
This just in
Ginn isn’t the only guy that can run fast.
We can easily pick up a speed WR (if that is a need) in a more resaonable rd and be just fine. And who knows, he might be able to catch the ball!!! Imagine that.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
Jacoby Ford
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
Fast isn't a position.
Receiver is.
Ginn can’t receiver.
If the hands don’t catch
you must acquit!
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
A Deep threat
from the reciever position is a role…a role that currently is vacant on this team
When henne threw the deep ball it wasnt to bess or camarillo it was to ginn why? because hes the only receiver that possesed that type of ability on this team
Brandon Marshall is a #1 but he isnt a deep threat which is why i was all for ginn staying to play opposite him
Momma Said Knock You Out
or those long passes to Hartline...
I think a lot of people wanted Ginn to stay…. but, I also think that we were also giving him another excuse, and reason to stay….when he clearly hasn’t warranted it.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Perhaps, but
we still need a flanker who can serve as a deep threat, or this Marshall acquisition doesn’t do as much as we think for us.
2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion
1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee/1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson/1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
by Dave.Phuller on Apr 16, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That hit the DB in the hands frirst, not exactly lighting the world on fire with his deep catch, lol.
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a solution for you
Find out who Al Davis wants first in the draft. Then find out who is second choice would be and that is your man lol
ginn doesn't play as fast as ginn
seriously, ya’ll know what i mean right. Ford will do..
Ginn doesn't play fast
he only runs fast in a straight line
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Emmanuel Sanders 5-10 186 4.41 WR SMU (June Jones disciple)
Dynamic returner AND can catch the ball.
Tends to round off his routes.
Can jump too: 39.5 inch vertical
Wimpy weak (12 reps of 225 lbs)
1st:(TRADE DOWN if possible)Jerry Hughes 6-1 255 OLB; 2nd:TRADED for BRANDON MARSHALL 6-4 230 WR; 3rd:Linval Joseph 6-4 328 NT; 4th:Robert Johnson 6-2 203 FS; 5th(from 49ers):Emmanuel Sanders 5-10 186 WR; 6th[A]:Deji Karim 5-9 210 RB; 6th[B]:Crezdon Butler 5-11 191 CB; 6th[C]:Aleric Mullins 6-1 319 NT; 7th[A]:Jameson Konz 6-3 234 TE/SS; 7th[B]:Danny Batten 6-2 246 LILB; 7th[C]:Stevenson Sylvester 6-2 232 RILB;
does anyone else think we are really a STRONG WC for Spiller now?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
no
Spiller isnt happening. its defense in round 1.
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that was my first thought too
Our D would certainly suffer but Jesus we would score some points.
by Brooklynfinfan on Apr 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Spiller?
Lets just say LB’s will poop themselves if they have to cover him
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
so will safeties lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
dont forget Grice-Mullins and Kory Sheets ( sheets was the fastest guy in his draft cant remember which one)
Brandon Marshall!!! Next stop SuperBowl!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
I've already forgotten Sheets multiple times
you guys keep making me remember him lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Pruitt ran a 4.36 low time at his pro day.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That and a token will get him a ride on the subway :>D
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't need the subway
he can run there faster
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
hhaha, it would be nice if someone stepped up though,
him or anyone, because now we are in “stop gap” mode, we are no longer looking to replace a guy who was definitely serviceable, we need to fill that spot now, lets hope we’re not worse off this year in those areas in which Ginn served.
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
naw bro, we are already better off.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No, actually we are not, thats the point.
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah Ginn was a curse
The guy flat out lost us more games than won… His replacement would have to hand the ball to the other team to be worse.
Jacoby Ford ran a 4.28 at the combine
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
weak -)
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
Sad to see him leave from my 2nd fave team
But the Niners needed a return man desperately….
49er faithful since July 11, 1985
This is not sad
OH Happy Day
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously he's a Patriots fan
Because we all know the Jets are the only team in the NFL who actually hate Ginn.
I think there are going to be more trades and the surprises will keep coming. Smiley is going somewhere.
I could see a package deal for a high 2nd.
Leader of The Draft Derrick Morgan Express Train.
Know your enemy, know youself, fight 100 battle without defeat. Sun Tzu
1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS
Any word...
…On whether we get to keep the Ginn family?
by picklescapone on Apr 16, 2010 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
whats the word on the Ginn family?
Ive been over here from Arrowhead Pride reading up a lot and I see a lot of you comment on them…what happened?
Cam Cameron's comments on draft day 2007.
“We drafted the Ginn family,” Cameron said. “Ted Ginn and his family will give us everything they have.”
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/dolphins/2007-04-28-fans-reaction_N.htm
My favorite line from that article:
“Some draftniks accused Ginn of running poor routes, dropping too many passes and struggling to get off the line.”
I guess even Kiper gets one right every now and then.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Apr 16, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
was this written before he was drafted?
or last week?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
nice lefty
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The pathetic part is that Cam couldn't figure out what the draftniks already had
The article was written after the draft but the line was right around the draft. I may never forget Mel Kiper ripping the dolphins FO at the time for #9 when he was coming off a foot injury and had all those flaws. Cameron just wanted to get his own Devon Hester kind of back so he took the fastest guy he could find (sounds a lot like Al Davis), He knew Ginn’s whole family so maybe he owed Teddy’s dad.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Apr 16, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he owed Teddy’s dad.
THIS crossed my mind on more than one occasion.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullshit
Now we need a home run hitter..and a returnman
None of our wr’s can stretch the field
Next to Santonio Holmes Ted Ginn will be the most productive 5th rounder in this draft
Momma Said Knock You Out
Spiller will be picked
don’t you fret you’re little head about it lol
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This honestly opens the door wide open for Spiller
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yes it does
once again, if you look at the roster, Marshall is the only guy with “score from anywhere” ability.
Honest question.. what are the odds my “Draft Teammates!” idea comes true with the 3 Clemson players, Spiller, Sapp and Ford?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
zero...next question :)
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
I'd say the odds are now 50/50....
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Returners on roster
Bess and Cobbs can and have returned kicks and punts and they’ll be active each week. Plus there are verteran return guys on the street every year at the start of training camp. Hell wee can bring in Brian Mitchell, I think Darrell Green still runs a 4.40.
Hate the move.
Clearly a money move. Why not wait and see what he can do with BM next to him?
Clearly a money move
Disagree
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
its clearly a move because he sucked for the last 3 years
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ginn improved each year. two years from now when he actually know all the routes.
And runs them with conviction, he’ll be an average receiver with the occassional big play. That and throw in all the Kick returns(minus the holding calls) 3-5 td a year off returns alone and 4-7 in the recieving game thats anywhere between 7-12 total touchdowns. Thats more than Brandon Marshall……. Keep in mind he’ll achieve these things with a #1 receiver across the field from him(Crabtree). I still think it coulda been Marshall and Ginn gettin single coverage with an already shading safety BM’s side.
Dude, check the stats.
he improved from year 1 to 2, but regressed from year 2 to year 3.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
tgats B.S.
Ginn has not improved year to year. and hes not an explosive playmaker. He had 1 decent year out of 3 years. he had 2 return TDs in one game and thats it!! he hasnt dont anything worth keeping him. your throwing out this is what could happen. saying he can get more TD’s than Marshall?!??! sorry but thats just stupid
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s not a Money move, it’s just that he sucked and the FO was probably tired of him and wanted to give others a chance.
by Dolphins21MZ on Apr 16, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea and...
If you’re tired of him as a WR then only let him return kicks. He happens to be decent at it, better than anyone else we have.
ted wasnt that good at kick returns. he had the 2 against the jets, but thats it
but he mainly just got stuffed around the 20
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh yeah why not...
a return man making #9 overall money….niiiice :-D
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
eh...really a glib interpretaion if you ask me...
Sure the money and the kick returning is one thing but, ginny boy just wasn’t productive in his role as a Dolphin. I mean..the man COULDN’T CATCH!!! LOL. Seriously, c’mon now. As much as I liked Ginn it had to be done. You cannot honestly say you would want to keep him around JUST TO RETURN KICKS and at the same time be happy with the money he was receiving. Again not a money issue IMO. You just had to have figured it was going to happen sooner or later. you know?
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
He lacked athleticism too....
I remember last year there’s a photo of him leaping with his legs all spread out.. not meeting the ball at his apex. Of course he didn’t make that catch.. I think he dropped it.
Move on… there’s nothing to see here people.
This is a good move for the dolphins. It’s a deep draft so our 5th rounder is worth a little more. The added bonus is we save some dollars.
shich is why we're getting jacoby ford to strecth the field lol.
Nah, i’m just kidding there. What about Taurus Johnson? check out his highlights.
And maybe we’ll take a chance on Mike Williams. I heard Bill Parcells is high on him.
Sad to see Teddy go though, i was hoping we’d keep him to stretch the field.
"Welcome to The Doghouse"
"The more people I meet the more I like my dog."
Winner of The Davone Bess Little Guy Award, 2010
Driver of the "Give Taurus Johnson a chance", golf kart
whats wrong with ford?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
Hey neo what's up!?
Just some people i talked to said he can’t catch. I’m not a college fan so i don’t know. Any info would be good…
"Welcome to The Doghouse"
"The more people I meet the more I like my dog."
Winner of The Davone Bess Little Guy Award, 2010
Driver of the "Give Taurus Johnson a chance", golf kart
Nm
In a nutshell, just from word I heard now.
Small, real fast, questionable hands.
Ford’s camp was confident that he would break Chris Johnson’s record time of 4.24 from 2008. Ford added to that confidence, saying he would run a 4.2-40. He didn’t quite do that, but his run still opened eyes. Ford ran a 4.28-second 40-yard dash on Sunday. It stands as the second-fastest 40-yard dash in combine history (since 2000)
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
heck with it...let's just draft Dez lol
"Welcome to The Doghouse"
"The more people I meet the more I like my dog."
Winner of The Davone Bess Little Guy Award, 2010
Driver of the "Give Taurus Johnson a chance", golf kart
Buckeye
Whatever, he was a Buckeye anyhow. Trade down and draft Graham.
Go Blue
Funny how the Buckeyes keep beating Michigan
…and Santonio Holmes is a better wideout than any Wolverine in the NFL right now. Or Ginn for that matter. Do we need to go through all of the NFL players for both universities and compare? Please. Michigan USED to be a good football school. Not anymore.
Henne and Long
Yet the core of our offense relies on Wolverines.
(I know you said wideouts, but I’m just sayin’…)
Point well taken
…and it kills me! But I feel better when those guys are setting it up for Hartline catching the ball in the end zone. I’d rather have Henne playing for us than Drew Henson. What ever happened to David Terrell, by the way?
Whats even funnier, is that both Buckeyes and Wolverines
think anyone really cares what college they went to……
They are in the NFL.
College football is like pee wee compared to the NFL. Nobody cares anymore….move on.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
We had Taurus in KC last season
If he couldnt make it on our roster with the awesome WRs we have I dont see him catching on anywhere. Its a shame I really liked Taurus but our WRs sucked and he couldnt make it in KC
At least he's on the other side of the world over there and not playing him twice a year like Jason Taylor
UUgghhh……I wince at the thought of JT coming of the edge or from wherever in a Rex defense and sacking and harrassing Henne.. It’ll be Culpepper except he won’t have a bad knee to point at….What will he point at…. The owners box…… Trace out a triangle(for the Tri-fecta) and punch it out!….. damn it…
Maybe Chris Clemons can return kicks.
maybe Miami will get Jacoby Ford. he could definatly do it.
my dream for the rest of the off-season is:
Miami gets Atogwe
Trades down and gets another 2nd.
takes Jerry Hughes or Brandon Graham with the late 1st. Take Golden Tate with the 2nd. Cam Thomas with the 3rd.
if that played that would be sweet. Tate would be a monster number 2 reciever!! and he could return kicks.
probably a long shot for that all to play out. but its possible
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 3:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I, honestly, would rather...
going with CAM with the second. He might not be available in the third. With the Raiders, Chargers and Bills possibly going after DTs in the second round. I’d hop on him if maybe we could trade for the Eagles 2nd rounder. What do you think??
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
Linval Joseph may be there in the 3rd. prob. not though.I hope to trade back a little and still get Graham
I know he does’nt have the Tuna measuarables but… smarts, technique, speed. hands…
theres also Torrel Troup in the 3rd
so we could get one or the other
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh yeah thanks...
I forgot about Troup. Silly me lol. I’ll tell you this, though..if the Raiders, Chargers AND Bills ALL GO for DT in the 2nd round. I’d have to say we’re a little screwed if we hadn’t already taken Williams or another top DT earlier of course. Worst case scenario when it comes to the DTs IMO
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
my dream
fins get atogwe,
trade down and like this team has done in past get on OLB like one from texas in first and hughes or cody if still there and then and which ever one not gotten in second get cam thomas or another OLB in 3rd.
by virginiafinfan on Apr 17, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...at least...
I got some wear out of that jersey :-(
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
I had some good times with mine
oh well
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
maybe miami will get morgan then u could use some tape and spell out MORGINN
Change the first 1 into a 9 then u got the soon to be vacated 99
DERRICK MOR-GINN number 99
Patrick Cobbs
Isnt he coming back this season…he might not be the most explosive guy, but he didnt do too bad…its a stop gap for now
Cobbs and Bess
Bess will return punts and Cobbs will do kicks…just like last year
by christiandolfan on Apr 16, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
god i hope not
bess was terrible as a PR and cobbs has no big play return ability – at least not like Ginn had
by Matty I on Apr 16, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.. we were terrible with those 2 back there
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd flip that around. Cobbs=punts Bess=k/o
Cobbs is a good 3rd down back. maybe i’m wrong but i think punt returns are more of a work-load because of the frequency of them. he does less on offense.. i dunno just a thought.
what happened to
the kid who was beast on KO in preseason. He did turn ball over 2 times but got “hurt” he was ripping off yards like he stole them.
by virginiafinfan on Apr 17, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ginn
I agree with Matty. It would have been interesting to see what Ginn could have done opposite a legitimate receiving threat. With Marshall attracting double coverages, that would have left Ginn open with likely a safety or linebacker trying to keep up. The mismatches would have eventually yielded big plays, or it could have stretched the field at the very least.
The problem is that everyone wanted to make Ginn into a #1 receiver, but that’s not who he is. Just doesn’t have the physical ability to do it. He’s more of a #2, #3 option. The problem is that when you draft a receiver at #9, the expectation is that he’ll be a superstar. Ginn is a solid player, but he will never live up to his draft position.
Those are the perils of drafting based on athletic talent or positional needs, especially high in the draft. Always go for the best player, no matter what the position. Difference makers are rare and they turn mediocre teams into winners.
The Trifecta seem to think that this draft is deep enough that they will be able to find quality talent well into the 5th round. Sure hope so, the last time we drafted a quality player down there, we got Zach Thomas. Rarely do you find a starting caliber players there. At least Ginn had value as a return man and speed threat. But they were most likely desperate to move on.
Some the names that Matty listed as replacements are fast guys, but can they catch or run a route tree. My guess is that the Taurus Johnson’s of this team are competing with Pat Turner for that last roster spot at WR. All will depend on their development and whether they can bring a different dimension to the passing game.
i look at like this..
Hartline, Bess, and Camarillo proved there worth without Marshall there. Ginn just showed he’s a weak WR and has horrible hands.
by phinfan20 on Apr 16, 2010 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he would have done the same thing as without Marshall here
drop the ball
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a reason he started almost every game,
you needed to respect the mans speed, he is fast for an NFL player, with all his faults he still made DBs soil their panties at times, because the truth is,….. if he got past you as a DB, you stopped breathing, because if the QB dropped one in his bread basket, and he caught it ,…… you knew 1 thing,
-
I CAN"T CATCH HIM!!!
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
awful lot of "if"s there
there are lot of speed guys that have better potential than Ginn. Look at Aromashodu! he bounced around a bit. we even had him on our team. runs a 4.35.
Anthony Armstong, probably faster than Ginn, running in the high 4.2s.
Or Chris Hannon – 4.37
Or James Robinson – 4.29
Or Todd Lowber – 4.1
If we just want guys that can run in a straight line fast, and have a 50-50 chance of making a catch, they are a dime a dozen. ;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
None of these guys are as good as Ginn, even Aromosh doesn't return kicks, not very good examples, lol.
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
your opinion finster
i think any of these guys could be as good as ginn. you see, i don’t think ginn was very good.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 17, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Ginn Tries to Call Timeout When He Sees the Ball Was thrown to Him
Oh wait, sorry, i thought this was another one of those ‘Caption the Picture’ contest.
by dab415217 on Apr 16, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Well this sucks.
I wanted to see what Ginn could do with Brandon on the other side. But now I want to take Jacoby Ford in the draft.
"It didn't take the wildcat to beat the patriots... Just a wolverine."
by DaBlizad260 on Apr 16, 2010 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Boy, is his speed AMAZING BUT...
He is also said to have issues with catching the ball as does Ginn of course. His scouting overview states he likes to body catch a lot of balls. I just don’t know :-/
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
no worries.
i am pretty sure dropping the ball will look the same no matter who is on the other side
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So our offfense has a surprising amount of options.
Between Ronnie (who’s still here, anyway), Ricky, Brandon, and all of our supporting receivers it could be a fun season to watch!
Goodbye to that soft azz Teddy !
Ginn sucked – plain and simple. He made very few plays, and usually wasted his god-given speed by running out of bounds or dropping passes. DUECE B. – lay off the weed !We have a homerun threat named BRANDON MARSHALL ! and Ginn was not as good as Greg C, Bess, or Hartline … not even close. All of those WR’s will flourish with marshall as the true #1… We all would have hoped for a higher pick – but it shows you what the rest of the league thinks too – about TG. … SEE YA !!!! he’s outta here…
Can’t wait for the season
40 Year FIN FAN
DRAFT a #1 WR now.........
by 62Lou on Apr 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Ginn as KR
He had his moments, he had those awesome returns vs. the Jets, but I was more frustrated with Ginns returns than happy. Do we forget his constant attempts to hit the home run every time, at the expense of going backwards? He seemed to refused to take what he was given, and was only comfortable running out of bounds. Never would he take it straight up field to get 10 yards, but would go to the sideline to get only 5. There are other WR in the drafted that can do better than Ginn.
Jacoby Ford seems like the obvious choice.
I will be just fine addressing Defense with the 3 of the first 4 rounds and taking a KR in the 5th or 6th. Hope the Fins can trade back into the 2nd. And definitely would not be opposed of drafting Spiller or Bryant.
Founder of the unofficial Draft Dexter McCluster band wagon!
The Patriots Suck
Will only take Spiller if Ronnie is dealt
Founder of the unofficial Draft Dexter McCluster band wagon!
The Patriots Suck
I disagree with that
I think we can take Spiller, work him in on ST and specialty situations for year 1, then give him a bigger role once Ronnie/Ricky are gone. Similar to what he did at Clemson, when James Davis left, Spiller just assumed most of his carries and kept on going.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
this^
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed on Spiller
I think with the uncertainty as to whether Ronnie can stay healthy and the idea that Ricky may only have another season or two, why not go for Spiller so we can have our backfiled sured up for years to come
It is what teams like the Patriots and Steelers do all the time, even if they have a good player at a position, they continue to load up so they are assured that position is taken care of even if that guy goes down or moves on.
I still want Spiller with our 1st pick
Re-sign JT
Sign Darren Sharper
Draft a NT in the draft as well
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 16, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad deal
I can’t believe we couldn’t get better than a 5th for one of the leagues better kick returners.
He was useless as a WR but still we could have used him returning all kicks this season
Holmes went for a 5th
That tells you what the Market was this offseason
If that market holds true, it tells me we got a pretty good return for Ginn
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 16, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was a pretty decent deal... pretty fair
Especially since this is Ginn’s last year in his contract.. isn’t it? We also have one too many wide receivers. All we did was get rid of the worst one and instead of just cutting him which some were calling for last season we got a little value for him.
Not bad.
No hat tip?
I is sad :(
Leader of the "Draft Arrelious Benn in '10" bandwagon
Please, call me Bacon
Best friends with MHTD, DIB, NICKY, MAU, PEEZY, MOSUL, MEDIC, CL, FINNY, TCP, FOX, WZB, RROAN and KMB (who is whiter than the pure-driven snow)
At least we kept your gf pics..........
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
These Niners fans refuse to believe he will be playing WR for them at some point
I understand they are worried, for good reason, but wth, denial isnt going to get them anywhere.
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
Give them the link to our post on the trade (in the FanShots), and let them
read how a team that has had him for this long feels about this trade.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Nah, they think
Ginn won’t play WR, when I’m telling them he will.
He is probably the 3rd best option behind Vernon and Crabtree to play.
Staring down Mark Sanchez. Just look into the those brown beauties.
I expect we will get a compensatory for the Ginn family right?
I mean, the compensatory picks are based on how many FAs you lose right? We’re losing a whole FAMILY!
Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. ~Vince Lombardi
except that it was a trade
we TRADED the whole family, so no comp pick
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
good one lol
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno what to think
I think of the potential he has as a KR… I think of the potential he has a WR opposite Marshall… I think of another hole created about the FO. But the other side of me thinks about the how I was hyped up about his potential for the last three years only to be let down… I think of his KR and PR that he took straight out of bounds, which were more than his big returns…. and I think how he had a 100 rec yard game vs the colts, then disappeared the rest of the year… I think how he didn’t crack the starting line up and single handley lost the Saints game for the Fins….
All that said… I will only feel good about this trade if Jacoby Ford or another KR is drafted in 5th – 7th or a play maker… Spiller / Gillard in 1-4
Founder of the unofficial Draft Dexter McCluster band wagon!
The Patriots Suck
Gilyard is too slow for a deep threat and we already have 2 possession guys
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ginn sacred
If you look at the tapes of Gin you cleary see his problems were caused by fear of getting hit that’s just something you can’t coach a player on
I’m starting the idea that we trade up and go get Berry
lets lock down secondary for years to come
by Nathaniel McNasty on Apr 16, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
2 late
Ginn is sacred
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 16, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
.... is that like holy shit?
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Smith and Ginn
Alex Smith and Ted Ginn better revive their careers and fast before both go in the “Biggest Busts of All Time” category. Smith was #1 overall in 2005 and the guy has done nothing, Ginn still can be a threat on Kick returns, but needs to work on his catching
by The Last Shall Become First on Apr 16, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
He took a couple reverses to the house.. Returned 3 kicks his rookie season only one counted cus of penalty’s that weren’t his fault.. Had that crazy punt return in the pre season against the chiefs and was the only one to burn revis.. Then two more kick returns vs jets… He was gonna fail either way because of the pick he was. People expected greatness it wasn’t his fault cameron is an idiot and drafted him so high.. He had some drops but not as many as braylon Edwards or t.o and they are considered good… Blame cam of he was a third round pick he’d still be here
by ruck on Apr 16, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I do wish the bee keeper luck
2009 NY Phin PhansFantasy League Champion
2009 Best Regular Season Record in NYPPL.
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
nice deal
a 5th round pick is all right for an overated return man and crappy receiver
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
Official Back-Up Phinsider LOL'er.
The one and only "ho-nerd"
Give him some credit
Blame cam not him… If he was a third or fourth rounder he would still be here and you would be saying he still has some upside
by ruck on Apr 16, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
he was never falling out of the 1st that year
and he’d still not be able to catch
Trade back and climb Mount Cody!
by special agent wildcat on Apr 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The rationale given at the time...
when I was vehemently against picking Ginn is that if we hadn’t taken him, Houston would have.
My thought was “great!”, let them get the Ginn family and we can take Revis or Willis or someone who is a real football player.
hey hey hey
Revis is exactly where he should be. As those much more philosophical than I say “everything happens for a reason” lol
BS
i blame Ginn for not catching the damn balls thrown his way.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you understand.. :)
He still would be gone if he was a 3rd or 4th rounder. There are plenty of other players who deserve a shot. We gave Ginn three years. If he was a 3rd or 4th rounder he would have been gone by year two.
it's about damn time!
and that’s all i gotta say about that
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
There are some draft options to replace Ginn..
Trindon Holliday, Brandon Banks, and Brandon James. These 3 would pretty much be dedicated return men.
There are other options too although they can probably legitimately hold down a position on the roster and not merely be a specialist. Jacoby Ford comes to mind among others.
And here we are talking about the 4th-7th round range which fits in nicely with the 5th rounder we got…..and for a whole lot less money than Ginn was being gifted too.
Julius Pruitt runs a 4.4 40 (4.36 low time) i believe
maybe he can return kicks and be the deep threat?
I mean, he can’t be worse at dropping balls than Ginn, so that part’s covered.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Marcus Easley as a late round sleeper in this draft
I'm now officially on the Spiller bandwagon. Dynamic offense and stout defense in 2010!
He's got the size and speed to be a good receiver across from Marshall
I'm now officially on the Spiller bandwagon. Dynamic offense and stout defense in 2010!
if he can run routes and catch the damn ball, then yes. =)
two bug IFs that I will be watching in camp.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he can LC
One of the many things I like about our FO is that they will give an inherited guy every chance to prove them wrong, concerning their size requirements,but Brandt has said BP didn’t like return guys with long skinny legs and it’s because of lack of balance IMO as evidenced by Ginn being EASILY knocked off balance by the slightest brush.
Nat alluded to there being a ton of very fast guys that can be had very late in the draft and they don’t need to run good routes either,all they need to be is a burner with good hands and hopefully lower to the ground so replacing Ginn should be VERY easy.
by firedanhenningnow on Apr 16, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
there always are
i just listed some above that we have had on our roster, and IMO, probably didn’t make it because we already had Ginn.
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you feel about McCluster?
I'm now officially on the Spiller bandwagon. Dynamic offense and stout defense in 2010!
Unusually versatile player...
I mean to play RB, heck even in HS at 170 lbs soaking wet, is quite a feat.
I think his pro day 40 brought people back on board a bit after his disappointing run at the combine.
Otherwise I don’t have a strong feeling about him one way or another.
I think any of a number of guys could easily fill Ginn’s shoes here.
I don't have my list in front of me but there is a cb projected mid to late rounds
That has a little speed. he’s not a burner but has experience and he also can play Free Safety. I’m gonna drop that name when i find it. see what u guys think.
We're back at 5 WR's
no one with deep speed, but a MUCH more reliable corps now with Ted gone. I did want to give him one more year to see if his speed and the addition of Marshall helped our offense, but I can’t really bash this deal. After dealing for Marshall and Thigpen, we were pick-less in 2 rounds, and that doesn’t give you the opportunity to target players you like throughout the draft and go get them. Say we don’t have a FS up until the 5th, and somebody like Major Wright or Reshad Jones falls a bit (unlikely, but work with me here). Now at least, we are able to target them and only have to jump a few spots up to get em, instead of an entire round.
As for Ginn, I wish him the best of luck, and this is probably the best thing for him (although it’s another offense, and another QB for him to get used to). He was absolutely hated here by many fans, and no matter what he did, it was never going to be good enough to justify that draft status. He’s the face of the CamCam era, however undeserved it may be. In SF, he’ll be “the guy we got for a 5th” so there will be very little pressure on him to do anything other than return a few kicks.
This is part 1 of 4 of “Dolphins trade Player X for Team X’s #th Round Pick.” Parts 2, 3, and 4 are Smiley, Ronnie, and Thigpen. Stay tuned.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pruitt has deep speed Nicky
We just won’t know what he can do till camp, so i am sure they will pick up someone else in the draft.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm on board with you about...
more moves coming.
I think the FO is keen to recoup some of the missing picks…they got a 5th back now, and I bet they’d like nothing more than a 2nd.
Thigpen is the obvious candidate for a new team.
Hit up the Vikings
They need a franchise QB, and a backup RB for Peterson… and we have both of those. Sweeten with Smiley, or some other expendable and I’m happy :) Of course I’m not sure what value those would elicit.
At this time of year...
i’d say everything/everyone/every pick is game.
So may as well explore the options.
What exactly are the Vikings going to give us that we want?
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 16, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever pick you would trade lets say ronnie brown for like a 3rd=around 250 points or so
Smiley worth about 80-120 points. Thats a total of 330-370 points. The Viking 2nd round pick is worth 280 points. Thats one way to get into the second round without changing the 12th overall spot in the 1st.
I agree about Ginn,
and about Smiley being gone, but TT and Ronnie will be back.
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Finster...
I’m thinking one of Pat White/ CP-10/TT will be moved.
Agree? Disagree?
i’ve a hard time seeing 4 qb’s.
Although I suppose if Mr. Baseball (um, Pat White) is willing to play receiver, then we’d only have 3 QB’s.
Pat White is already cut, he just doesn't know it yet :>)
Well you saw that last game, he is not a QB, our team was afraid to throw with him in there, the Steelers were foaming at the mouth, he just is not, nor nor will he ever be a NFL QB, as far as WR/KR, give him a shot but if he doesn’t get it,(which he won’t) bye bye, we can’t afford luxury players right now.
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
by uncle finster on Apr 16, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't a 5th what the Jets traded for Santonio Holmes
If the 49ers are trading the same pick for Ginn as the Steelers valued Holmes I say take it and run before the Ganja wears off.
by Nathaniel McNasty on Apr 16, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
Good Point
So why didn’t we offer the Steelers Ginn for Holmes? Tell me they wouldn’t have taken that deal.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Apr 16, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Idiot Parcells
This is the dumbest move yet by Parcells. The chances of a 5th round pick ever contibuting to any NFL team is about 2%. Ginn is better than that, has a very reasonable salary and is the best kick-off returner in the league.
Goodbye to Ginn. I feel sorry for him and hope he does well with a change of scenary.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Apr 16, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
you have to be kidding
Trading Ted Ginn was the dumbest move? If that was the case, then Parcells has been PERFECT since he got here lol. Ginn is definitely not the best KR in the league, unless you stop counting all the good ones like Hester, Cribbs, Harvin, hell even Lardarius Webb, Courtney Roby and Jacoby Jones all had better averages and scored TD’s. Ginn was good, in the top 3rd of the league, but KR’s seem to be easy to find, since 2 of the best in history were picked in the 3rd round (Hester) and signed after the draft (Cribbs). Remember Michael Lewis? He had a stupid good season for NO back a few years as a KR, and they found him stocking beer in supermarkets….
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
Piloting the Lead Chopper in the CJ "the Thriller" Spiller SpillWagon Helicopter Fleet
by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 16, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You must have spent a bundle
on that stuff you are smoking
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 16, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry man, but you aren't making sense.
ginn had many chances to develop and he just was not going to get it. it is the reliability that was missing. the drops killed drives and lost games. it doesn’t matter how fast he was if he couldn’t hang on to the ball.
and since he was not going to fill the role of WR, it was probably not practical to keep him just as a returner.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
...and the way he dropped some of the balls
We’re not talking about getting just a few fingertips or even one hand on the ball. Some were right at his numbers… drive killer for sure.
Remember this...
Not only did we trade Ted Ginn Jr…………
but we also traded the Ginn family.
everyone is forgetting
Ginn was asked to be a #1 WR he wasnt. . WHO knows what he would have been like when he only had to run deep against one guy. I would have loved to see teams double team Ginn deep and then leave B. Marsh open. Any possibiltiy for 25 catches in one game?
No amount of coverage...
doesn’t make up for the fact that he continuously dropped passes. Even with Marshall on the other side, Ginn being open doesn’t automatically equate to him being more reliable and catching more passes. He had his chances and he still dropped the ball.
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Apr 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good luck to Mr. Ginn
But glad I won’t have to watch him in a Dolphins uniform any more. All those lazy routes, not being where the QB expected him to be coming out of breaks, running needlessly out of bounds, and otherwise playing scared; will be some other group of fans things to bitch about.
ARRGH
"michael, I did nothing,...... I did absolutely nothing,.... and it was everything I thought it could be" -Peter Gibbons-
Unofficial "Avatar Creator"
former Goof Trooper and proud recipient of the Matty JLRBotY award 2010
BandWaken Got me this Matty BLB award 2010
I told you Ted Ginn was sacred
Now we’re paying the price
by Nathaniel McNasty on Apr 16, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
okay. i did
but what are you talking about?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
All the text is crossed out or "striked" if you will
weird
Sam Madison THE GREAT
Sergio Kindle! Cam Thomas! Reshad Jones!
Kory Sheets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKjbCCVnagQ&feature=fvw
Maybe he should get a shot at returns, he did some of that at Purdue.
I almost forgot about him.
Cant say i ever hated the guy.
He was never a #1, but he was a Dolphin so i liked him nonetheles. Either way, i wish im luck with San Fran
"the one and only Peezy" -tex ... "the Calvin Johnson of rookies.. instant impact" -Prime Time
"el peezy ['the real deal'] strikes fear in opponent bloggers hearts" -finsx
"El Peezy is a man of the people...Don’t hate the player – hate the game." -KC
by el presidente 00 on Apr 16, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Ginn gone.
At 6’ 5" Turner should be able to get in gear and show his playing abilities he has’nt had a chance to show!
Options in the draft
There is the option of Jacoby Ford but I think 3rd or 4th round is too early. We have 3 6th and 3 7th rounders. LaMarcus Coker returned kicks at Tennessee before his drug problems moved him to Hampton. Kid has 4.3 speed and plays RB. Not only would he be able to give us a nice change of pace to our RBs but could also play in the return game. Not bad for a 7th rounder.
Draft Earl Thomas Bandwagon!
"I guess we'll find out in a week if the Dolphins have a plan...
…as to what to do about their return man situation"
They’ll probably spend a 5th on some kid who can return kicks, preferably a speedy one who can at least stretch the field on offense and help Marshall out.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on The Phinsider
Related FanShots on The Phinsider
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
