Weekend Roundup: Lots of draft talk, and Jason Taylor update
Just think - there's only one more weekend in between now and the NFL Draft. And from all the draft talk going on, including rumors of players the Dolphins might be interested in and trades that might be in the works, it's safe to say that the draft itself can't get here soon enough.
So here's some news from the past weekend about - what else - the draft.
Is "Key" pushing Parcells to draft Dez?
Something that has been flying surprisingly under the radar comes to us from a post by the Sun-Sentinel's Dave Hyde. On Friday he highlighted some quotes from former NFL WR Keyshawn Johnson - who is close to Bill Parcells - about Dez Bryant. The first part of the discussion is Johnson defending Bryant - and making some very good points, too. But the key quote is this:
"This is a receiver who's at the head of his class at his position. He's a big (6-2, 225), physical receiver and it's pretty impressive that he returns punts at the same time. He fits the pro game very well and he should be a great player in the NFL. It's just irresponsible for people to try and peg him as a problem. I've talked to Bill [Parcells] on a number of occasions about Dez already, and I hope the Miami Dolphins draft him. I hope he's lucky like I was to work with someone (Parcells) who cared about me as more than a football player, but as a person.''
Like we've talked about on this site, we know Bill Parcells doesn't like "divas" or players with off-the-field issues. But I don't think it's fair to say Bryant has any off-the-field issues. He's never been arrested and has never done anything that would make you think he's a bad person. Instead, the red flags that have been raised all have to do with Dez's decision making, maturity, and work ethic. Those can all be fixed. And Parcells could potentially be the "father figure" to do just that.
While Bill doesn't like dealing with "headaches," he has been known to help mold players who might just need a little guidance in their lives. And that's exactly what Dez is.
But there are two ways to look at these words by Keyshawn and Hyde points them out. This is either an example of Johnson shedding a little light into what Parcells might be considering; or an example of an outstanding smokescreen by Parcells and the Dolphins. In a little over a week, we will find out.
JT Update: No decision yet
Despite clearly unfounded reports of Jason Taylor being "close" to signing with the Jets, it's looking like Taylor is going to need more time to decide. The latest comes from ESPN New York's Jane McManus, who writes:
Jason Taylor's agent says his client won't make a decision about whether or not to join the New York Jets until mid-week at the earliest.
"It's not even about a contract," Gary Wichard told ESPNNewYork.com. "It's about Jason making the decision with his wife to move up to New York and play. When that's decided he'll have an opportunity to move forward in one direction or another."
The article goes on to say how despite their being a report that a deal was near, Wichard said that "has never been the case." He also shot down claims from that inaccurate report that the only thing holding up Taylor's signing was how many OTA days he had to attend. Wichard claims that talks haven't even gotten that specific yet.
This whole mess is just getting on my nerves, to be honest. While I do want Taylor to come back for another season or two for a number of reasons, I really think the Dolphins are serious in that they will not make a decision until after the draft. If JT can't wait until then, I guess he'll end up signing with the Jets. I don't blame him one bit. At the same time, I guess I can see why Parcells and Jeff Ireland are handling this situation the way they are. But I just think that there is room for both a rookie outside linebacker and Jason Taylor. It's not a "one or the other" situation here.
Regardless of my thoughts, though, this saga is likely going to play out for the next two weeks. Be prepared.
Some trade talk
Two interesting rumors making rounds. Neither is really a surprise.
The first comes from Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post. Lombardi wrote on Sunday that he is hearing "the Dolphins are looking to move down from the 12th pick in the draft to acquire more picks." Makes sense. And he says he heard this while talking to teams around the league.
The Dolphins are probably doing their due diligence and putting out feelers around the league to let teams know they aren't opposed to moving out of the 12th pick. That way, when they are on the clock they would be prepared to move down if they so choose. This is a deep draft and if the Dolphins can move down a little in round one to pick up another draft pick in the middle rounds, I'm all for it.
The other rumor involves Dolphins quarterback Tyler Thigpen. We all know it's unlikely the Dolphins enter the regular season with four quarterbacks. With Chad Henne and Chad Pennington locks to be on the roster, Thigpen and Pat White could be battling for one roster spot. Pro Football Weekly hears that Thigpen is the guy the Dolphins are shopping in hopes of obtaining another draft pick:
Sources don't expect the Dolphins to head into the regular season with four quarterbacks on the roster, and with Chad Henne firmly entrenched as the starter, Tyler Thigpen, Chad Pennington and Pat White are the candidates to be moved. It's been said that Thigpen is the signalcaller most likely to be traded, and we're told Miami would like to move him before the draft. However, teams in need of a backup could wait until closer to training camp to make a swap to fill that hole, and there's a good chance the Dolphins will have to wait a bit longer to find a suitor for Thigpen.
Something to keep an eye on as the draft nears.
How the Dolphins could land Eric Berry
Want to know how the Dolphins could land the #1 player on our Phinsider Draft Board? Well one of the very best "mock draft gurus" - Al Fronczak - currently has Eric Berry falling to the Dolphins with the 12th pick. Here's how.
The first four go as many expect, with Sam Bradford, Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, and Russell Okung going in the top four. At number five, the Chiefs could use a safety. But they could also use many other positions, including a tackle. Fronczak has KC taking OT Bryan Bulaga, followed by Trent Williams going sixth to Seattle. The Browns are probably the biggest hurdle to clear if we want Berry to fall to the Dolphins. And the only way I could see Berry getting past Cleveland is if Mike Holmgren decides he wants QB Jimmy Clausen. Following his strong Pro Day performance, that's just what Fronczak has Cleveland doing - selecting the Notre Dame quarterback.
The Raiders are another threat at eight and are always the most unpredictable team in the draft. Berry would meet Al Davis' crazy speed demands. But they desperately need to improve their offensive line. The Bills have no need for taking a safety in the top ten. The Jaguars could potentially take Berry - though their needs at linebacker and defensive end are greater. Denver could be a threat to take Berry, too. But they, too, need help at linebacker.
So if the draft breaks like one of the top "mockers" out there thinks right now, we very well could be lucky enough to land the best safety to come out since Ed Reed.
See - I still refuse to give up hope!
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unless we trade up
eric berry isn’t going to happen.
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
this^
regrettably, thugh
Driving the "Get Vincent Jackson" Bandwagon.
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"Violence is not the answer, it's the question; the answer is YES!!!"
Nooo not Thigpen!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
"Keep on knockin but you can't come innnn!!!"
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Oh and trade down for a 1st round pick and some extra picks in the 2nd and possibly 4th ( however that works )
Then with our second and another player pick up BM
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IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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AGREEED!!!
why dont the phins do this >:[
when in doubt...hit a jets fan in the mouth
J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!
by Los Dolphins305 on Apr 12, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
cause if anyone could get Marshall for a 2nd.
it would have already been a done deal. Marshall isnt going to happen
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not true as draft day aproaches the asking price drops because Denver wants to get rid of him
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
"Keep on knockin but you can't come innnn!!!"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
you know that for sure?
do you know what McDaniels is going to do? cause if i would of told you last year he was going to trade Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton, you would have said i was stupid. if i would have told you Daniels was going to let Nolan walk away after the season. you would say i was insane and that would never happen.
you dont know what McDaniels is going to do
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 12:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and neither do you
because of all that why shouldn’t expect McDaniels to let BM go for a 2nd and a player?
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
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i know i dont.
i have no idea what McDaniels will do. but i know Brandon Marshall will not be a Dolphin next year.
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 1:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it even says right in the post.
Parcells doesnt like “diva” WR’s, or WR’s with off-the-field-issues. and Marshall is both a diva, and has tons of off the field issues.
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 1:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
smokescreens
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
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well i guess we'll know in about 10 days.
that Marshall will not be a dolphin
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 1:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BRANDON MARSHALL WILL BE A DOLPHIN!!!!!!!!
maybe…
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft/sign 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Nate Allen, 3-Torrell Troup, 4-Brandon Spikes
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Mount Cody, 3-Major Wright, 4-Brandon Spikes
lol yes we were
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
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IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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I'm with you man. I want thiggy to stay. I just don't think any other teams would take white.
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by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah.......he was awesome last year!!!!!!
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft/sign 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Nate Allen, 3-Torrell Troup, 4-Brandon Spikes
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Mount Cody, 3-Major Wright, 4-Brandon Spikes
... how many plays did he have?
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He had more than that. He threw the ball 3 times.
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
... and how many connected, out of how many plays?
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Whats zero plus zero?
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by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
2?
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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Did you get it back?
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Wait, was I supposed to carry the remainder?
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I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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Chillin easy on the Draft CJ Spiller SpillWagon skybus. Got the window seat, the minibar, just waiting for the stewardess to bring me a pillow.
100% connected with the ground.
Pat White gave the turf the nickname “Camarillo Grass”
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Yeah I know I was sold when he had a 10 yard out that went like
4 yards and then fell like a duck shot out of the air! What skill!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on guys, give him a break
He was still shaking from the fear of seeing how big the defenders were. Lets see how he does this year. He will recognize that he isn’t in Smurfville anymore.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
lol I gotta see it to believe it, before I even think about stoping to rag on him.
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
But ragging on him on here is so old
Give him the benefit Weecho…..or at least spare us the same old PW bashing. Come up with something humorous and original if we must be subject to Ginn or PW bashing.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Then by all means, let's put this guy to the front of the line...
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im still waiting to see pat white line up in the slot as a wr
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the lousaka monster should be a pro bowler
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by ronnie brown for president on Apr 12, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
it will happen.........
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft/sign 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Nate Allen, 3-Torrell Troup, 4-Brandon Spikes
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Mount Cody, 3-Major Wright, 4-Brandon Spikes
Its worth a shot at this point I guess.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
get Dez!
Eric Berry and Dez Bryant are my top 2 guys. Derrick Morganis flying up my wish list. that guy is a monster!
anyone else see the Jets got Santonio Holmes for a 5th round pick? WTF.
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 12:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Now all The Jets need is a real QB!
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lmao
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i dont get how the jets keep getting all these good players so cheap?
i mean even with Holmes’s off the field issues, the Steelers could have gotten a 2nd round pick, or at least a 3rd?
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 12:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes. good players.
i didnt say they were great players
by phinfan20 on Apr 12, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm confused
Was it Holmes that was busted for smoking pot or the Steeler’s front office? Anyone?
by Phincent on Apr 12, 2010 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
rec
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
The original "Can-o-Tuna" circa 1991" Award
Mike Mayock is dead-on in his evaluation of Earl Thomas. Bank on it.
lmao love it
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
Yeaaaaaaaaaay!!!
Six rec’s does that mean my comment gets front paged? No? Just checking! All jokes aside I really hope that we can pull off some move for B.M ( 2nd rounder not more), as much as I hate to say it we need to keep pace with the jest’s
Someone, anyone.....
Where is the #1 Reciever….. where!!! where???
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
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The original "Can-o-Tuna" circa 1991" Award
Mike Mayock is dead-on in his evaluation of Earl Thomas. Bank on it.
Berry is NOT HAPPENING.
I have fun calculating odds on things but I have no god damn idea how to calculate how amazingly unlikely it is Berry falls to us. I refuse to even be teased by how awesome it would be. The only way to get him is trading up, but that doesn’t really seem to be the Trifecta’s style.
Earl Thomas will be a superstar.
If that's too much to handle though...
There’s always EARL THOMAS!!! :)
Earl Thomas will be a superstar.
heck ya!!!
especially with the jets picking up holmo we need to get the best ball hawker in the draft and make our secondary solid.
Good point
We’re now in the same division as Moss, Welker, Holmes (his stats have pretty much improved every year in the league), and if it counts Braylon Edwards (who has his great games and his awful games). We need a starting FS, people!!!!!!!!
Earl Thomas will be a superstar.
don't worry
smith on moss
allen on welker
davis on holmes
done deal…….
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft/sign 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Nate Allen, 3-Torrell Troup, 4-Brandon Spikes
1-Sergio Kindle, 2-Mount Cody, 3-Major Wright, 4-Brandon Spikes
Welker may not play much this season.
I heard that his injury was pretty bad and since it happened late in the season, that he may not be fully healed or rehabbed for this season. There were even rumors for a bit that he might not play at all this year to let it heal and not aggravate it. I haven’t heard anything about it for a while, so I’m not sure what his status is now though.
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That would suck
As much as that would benefit the Dolphins, I hate seeing Welker hurt and unable to play. That kid is a class act and a stud WR and every time I see him catch a 4 yard pass and gain 12 yards I get pissed that we don’t still have him on our roster. A speedy recovery to Welker!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't be so sure that Berry won't fall.
Aaron Rodgers was projected to be a top 5 pick, and many people had him going 1st overall in his draft, and he fell all the way to the 24th pick. And quarterbacks are commonly taken in the top 10. Safeties on the other hand, are rarely taken the top 10 and there is only 3 teams that really are much of a threat to grab Berry in KC, Cleveland, and Seattle. And they all have other big needs in other positions as well. I really think that Cleveland is going to be the one we have to watch out for.
But you also can’t discount Crazy Al’s House of Suck because nobody knows what the hell that crazy bastard is going to do. I’m seriously waiting for him to lose what little grip on reality he still has and to do something really bizzare like draft a cheetah or a giraffe.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
28 "Phinsider Feud" Points
Chillin easy on the Draft CJ Spiller SpillWagon skybus. Got the window seat, the minibar, just waiting for the stewardess to bring me a pillow.
You mean he has any grip of reality left?
Dude what do you see in that old coot that makes you think he hasn’t already lost every single marble he ever had?
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Because he's still drafting humans that play football.
I think it shows that he has enough to at least recognize what he is doing. Doesn’t mean he makes good or intelligent decisions, but when he starts drafting luchadore midget wrestlers or zoo animals, then he’l be completely gone.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
28 "Phinsider Feud" Points
Chillin easy on the Draft CJ Spiller SpillWagon skybus. Got the window seat, the minibar, just waiting for the stewardess to bring me a pillow.
by Chupathingy on Apr 12, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Went to a party this weekend, everybody was Raider's fans...
That’s why I don’t understand why everyone’s so hard on our FO…..it could be a lot worse…trust me….they didn’t even want to talk football!! And they all had jerseys on!!
that's because they don't really understand the game
they just like to throw batteries and stab people
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 12, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget the guns
And pissing on people after they jump them and knock them unconscience!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Van! How are you? Haven't seen you in a coon's age!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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What amount of time would equate to a coon's age?
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
From Wiki........
“Although captive raccoons have been known to live over 20 years, their average life expectancy in the wild is only 1.8 to 3.1 years.”
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Wow, thats a rough life the coon lives.
I have seen some huge coons in this area. You think they can get that big in under 3 years?
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 13, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what they eat and the type of coon...
A “Rex” Coon could get monsterous!!!!
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Well this is not NY so I dont think they are Rex coons.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 13, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
He actually wiki’d “Coon’s Age”
You never cease to amaze (or perhaps perplex) me Alpha.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Been traveling alot brother
And many of the places I have been going, I don’t have access to the internet unfortunately. How have you been?
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 12, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL... holy... LOL
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True story
And they did it to a Dolphin fan while his 9 year old son was waiting for him outside of the bathroom.
Supposedly 3 Raider fans jumped dude while he was peeing, beat him unconscience and then pissed all over him and left him there for his son to find.
Good guys I tell you.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude! Thats some total BS!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
a raiders fan stabbed a charger fan at Qualcomm in SD
and now they do not sell beer after halftime when the raiders play there.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
... he was stabbed by a beer can?
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I was waiting for that
Why does it not surprise me that it came from Alpha.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...
… if you’re stabbed by a knife, you stop selling beer? How about they stop selling knives… or do better “knife” checks at the entrances?
Just saying…
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I have a better solution
Since it happened at a football game, lets stop playing football, then the stabbing won’t take place!!
That will learn them there Raider Fans!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats insane! This world is out of freaking control!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate that stadium
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
... did they at least let him zip up first?
Lord, I apologize for that there, and be with the pygmies in New Guinea…
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Brother come on.....
If we have dropped to the level of where we are comparing our FO to that of the Raiders then our future is bleak indeed.
I guess a better question is what were you doing at a party with Raider fans? I think I would personally rather choose to go through another water boarding session instead!!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed.
i really have a hard time deciding which is worse between Raiders fans and Jets fans.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 12, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Jets more than the Raiders but I can tell you from experience
And almost 15 years of living in California, no one is worse than Raider Fans….no one. It isn’t even close. The only fans worse than Raider Fans are European Soccer fans.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i still live here, and i still hate raiders fans
every time i see that stupid logo on someone’s truck, i just want to steal a tank from the armory and run it over
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 12, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I can call my buddy who actually owns a WW2 era Russian tank.
Unfortunately, you’d have to figure out a way to get it shipped over here from his warehouse in Latvia. But I’m sure he’d let you borrow it to destroy a Raiders fans vehicle.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
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Chillin easy on the Draft CJ Spiller SpillWagon skybus. Got the window seat, the minibar, just waiting for the stewardess to bring me a pillow.
we need to start a rumor.
Did you know that Eric Berry torched a bus filled with nuns, puppies and orphans? What an asshole! I hope he doesnt fall to Miami (wink,wink)
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by Patssuck456 on Apr 12, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
make it more believeable...
“He pissed in the coffee pot in the coaches office”
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 12, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats worse then what I said!
2009 NY Phin PhansFantasy League Champion
2009 Best Regular Season Record in NYPPL.
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
But believable............. lol
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
exactly... and you KNOW no coach is gonna want to have to always make a fresh pot of coffee...
… just to make sure…
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 13, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
If this FO seriously keeps Pat White over Thiggy It will be official..
The 3 Stooges have taken over our team!
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
Trifecta? Im starting to think more along the lines of The 3 Stooges
Hey Matty,
I don’t know if you saw this, but I just saw this story from a link over at Turf Show Times that might make the possibility of Berry falling to us a little greater. This is just a rumor, but it would be very interesting if it played out this way.
Cleveland looking to trade up?
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I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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Chillin easy on the Draft CJ Spiller SpillWagon skybus. Got the window seat, the minibar, just waiting for the stewardess to bring me a pillow.
If that happened then the odds go up alot on Berry falling to us!
Who would be my number 1 pick if I was running the Fins. If this happened I think it would be a sure sign that the football gods were smiling upon our beloved Fins!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
TRADE DOWN TO ACQUIRE ANOTHER PICK
Trade our 12th pick to Philadelphia for their 24th pick and their 57th pick. Be in position to draft a WR such as Dez Bryant, Demarius Thomas, or Golden Tate with the 1st pick.
2A. OLB such as Jerry Hughes, Daryl Washington, etc. 2B. FS Morgan Burnett GT. 3rd round NT either Torrell Troup or Cam Thomas. 4th TE Jimmy Graham, etc.
I believe that Dez will fall in the draft. I also agree that Brandon Marshall will stay a Bronco unless someone gives Denver a trade they cannot refuse. So far that is not happening. Marshal’s behaivor is trumping his talent.
I don't see Dez dropping to 24th
But I don’t like this option regardless. I think if you did drop, you spend the 1st rounder on defense and then the extra 2nd on the WR (Benn, Tate, etc)
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
In that scenario, I think you have a better shot
getting Hughes or Graham with the first and Demarius or Benn in the second
Lets be honest
As good as Dez looks our front 7 is hardly good enough to pass on possible players such as N/T Williams, LB Graham, LB Kindle or LB Morgan. Even if Wake is as good as we hope, we don’t really have anyone else that can get after the QB. I say trade down take two defenders and look for a WR in later rounds.
Who?
The only real problem is that there seems to be a large discrepancy between Dez and the other receivers.
Really?
And you know this because of how? Dez’s production last year? Oh wait, he didn’t play! Because of the stellar defenses that he faced when he did play? Oh wait, he played in the Big-12 and they are renowned for their defense! Or is it because any college player that has a big year in their college careers is a shoe in to have a successful NFL career?
Sorry but I am just not sold on Dez Bryant….especially with him weighing almost 15 lbs more than he did when he last played and with him missing a year.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Drafts about prospecting.
The kid has the size, speed and ability to succeed at the next level. Whether or not he will is a different story. However, it’s pretty clear that no other receiver possess his rare combination of skills.
But that doesn't translate into success at the NFL level.
THere have been many WRs, RBs, and other positions that were loaded with combinations of skills. Many times there were those “Can’t Miss guys” that never played more than one year. Just like I am hesitant to call a player a bust, I am hesitant to lable someone as the “clear #1” at his position".
Does Dez have talent….sure. Speed……definitely. But how many players before him have had that and not done anything? Countless.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Either or.
I understand, but what other means do we have in determining talent at the next level? Yes, success in college is one other way, but size and speed are the best indicators. Not perfect, but the best. Coaches look at his skill set and drool at the opportunity of putting him int he right situations. The best argument for not picking Dez is the very low success rate of first round WR’s. Anyway, as a Michigan Man I want the overachieving hard working Brandon Graham on our line for the next 10 years. Get the old crew back together…Long, Henne and Graham.
I completely agree that its a key measurement
But speed and college “talent” alone isn’t the only factor to evaluate. Scouts have to use something to grade…but it shouldn’t be the only factor. How did Heyward Bey work for the Raiders?
All I am saying is there is a huge risk that goes with a player like Dez and I don’t think he is clearly the “Best” WR talent coming out this year. Obviously the verdict won’t be out for 2-3 years. Alot of it will depend on the team that the individual goes to. I would love to know what Jerry Rice’s career numbers would have been if he played on the Atlanta Falcons or Cincinnati Bengals instead of catching passes from Joe Montana and Steve Young. If Dez went to a team like the Colts…holy shit watch out. If he went to the Buffalo Bills….ummm….who knows.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 12, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
so what are you saying?
Who would you take? Ginn and his family again?
he only jumps in for the important stuff now...
anyone remember the days when Matty actually participated in the threads?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so long ago!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
... other than a direct email... LMAO!!!
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"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
LOL I have yet to get one of those. I did have one of those wonderful threat boxes
pop up once. Those are NOT awesome.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 12, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the new ones have a nice flowery border..
they’re pretty.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 13, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yea I got one too I didnt know about the 5 line sig rule
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
LOL I remember that. I tried to warn you but I think you got the threat first.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 13, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I am just too simple of a person to worry about the sigs
(or I just don’t know how to do it, I will let you all reach your own conclusion on that)
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not really a big deal either way by Matty is strict about it.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 13, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
thats because finsx made one with like 22 lines in it
he would make three comments and scroll right off the page
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL Thats funny!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 14, 2010 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure how long ago we are talking here!
I am still a relative newbie (2 years or something like that)
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Mine was like 4 months ago.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 13, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I got one for flagging too many comments
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Mike Mayock is dead-on in his evaluation of Earl Thomas. Bank on it.
Hmmm. I have flagged quite a few.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 13, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
What exactly happens to a "flagged" comment?
I haven’t rec’d many comments and I haven’t ever flagged any comments.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
... you're missing out bro....
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Well what happens when you do flag someone?
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It just summons Matty's attention
He, as a moderator, has the ability to delete offensive or inappropriate comments.
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
The original "Can-o-Tuna" circa 1991
Mike Mayock is dead-on in his evaluation of Earl Thomas. Bank on it.
Oh....well I really haven't been offended by anyones comments
Some are annoying but it takes a whole lot to offend me…..or just one JEST fan….it’s about the same.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh I hate those things!
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Apr 14, 2010 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The reply button wasn't working part of the afternoon yesterday
Believe me, I tried many times
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Apr 13, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
lol that sux
BM needs to be in a Phins jersey yesterday!!!
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -

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