Report: Bill Parcells and Miami Dolphins meet with WR Dez Bryant
The front office in Miami is known to shy away from "high-maintenance" players. And we know they aren't a fan of "diva" receivers. Of course, we don't really know for sure if former Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant is either of those two things. But what we do know, according to "league sources" - the most overused term in the media, by the way - that the Dolphins have met with the former Oklahoma State star.
Via the Sun-Sentinel's Omar Kelly, Bryant reportedly spent Thursday night with team officials and will meet up again on Friday, including a meeting scheduled with Bill Parcells:
The Miami Dolphins met with Oklahoma State receiver Dez Bryant on Thursday night in "a get to know you session" that will carry over until Friday, according to league sources...
...Bryant's sit-down with the Dolphins allowed him to state his case. He has a meeting with Parcells scheduled for Friday. Last season, the Dolphins sat down with Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline in a similar setting before selecting those two receivers in the 2009 draft.
So who wouldn't love to be a fly on the wall when Bryant first walks in to meet Parcells face to face?
As usual, this could mean nothing. Or it could mean something. Right now, all it means is that the Dolphins are doing their due diligence on the best player at his position in the draft - at a clear position of need for the team.
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NICE! best news yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by sonnycrockett on Apr 2, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it...
Still a Spiller guy, but beginning to think more and more about Bryant.
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BRANDON MARSHALL
Looking at Bryant makes no sense unless there is no chance to get Marshall.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
Denver pick jus BEFORE us,
They CAN pick Dez, what r u talking about?
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What r YOU talking about?
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Fr8 r u on something?(medication maybe?)
Im talking about Cali comment. He said to take Dez then trade him for Marshall. As i guest, u know Marshall is a Denver Broncos. Denver draft pick is 11, we r 12, so Denver pick before us. Why in hell Denver would we trade Dez, is Denver want him, they should pick him right before us.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)
Because they could draft whoever they wanted at 11..
then trade Marshall for Dez when we take him at 12.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
no cali didnt say take both though it can happen if we trade Marshall for a 2nd and a player
But notice this:we take him or trade it for b marshall
all i can do is pray…
we take him or trade it for b marshall
Notice the “OR” that does not mean take both.
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Reading comprehension?
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
there is none.
I will admit my spelling is off a lot but at least I can comprehend what people are typing.
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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Same here!
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Be cool...
Just a guess here but I don’t think English is Aleta’s native language, so let’s cut him some slack :) Like my homeboy Snoop Dogg said…
La Di Da Di, we likes to party
We don’t cause trouble, we don’t bother nobody
We’re, just some Phinsiders who’re on the mic
And when we rock up on the mic we rock the mic (right)
For all my Phins keepin y’all in health
Just to see you smile and enjoy yourself
Cuz it’s cool when ya cause a cozy conditionin
Which we create, cuz that’s our mission
So listen close, to what we say
Because this types of shizzle happens every-day…
Word!
my bad lately people have been taking things out of context
So whenever I see it I jump all over it.
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This^
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by texascowpunk on Apr 3, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
they are seeking advice about the use of cleats from him........
supposedly he is an expert………..
Just one man's opinion...
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What if....
Dez walks into the office, Parcells is there, they share pleasant nice-to-meet-you bs, then Parcells goes “Well Dez, I think you’re just what we’re looking for! We’re even gunna trade up for you if we feel the need!”
Dez: “Really? Wow, that’s-that’s great!!”
“One more thing before you go, Dezzy my boy…”
“What’s that, coach?”
“April Fools, you fuckin’ diva! Get out of my office!”
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Hilarious hahaha
Chillin in the Henne ERA!!!!
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one problem friday it wont be April Fools day
Chillin in the Henne ERA!!!!
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Who will win Terrance Cody or Rex Ryan?
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I wouldnt mind he could be a steal like Vontae well in terms of behavior
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vontae wasn't much of a steal
i mean he looks like he has potential. given the choice between him and smith, id pick smith who was taken much later.
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
Vontae was a great steal
But he never had character issues. Him and Dez are different, just like Ricky and B. Marshall are different. V.Davis always was a tireless worker, Dez is known as lazy. Ricky tokes, B.M. assaults women.
vontae did have character issues coming out..we know now they werent true
but people were caling vontae a prima donna and questioning his heart after he got benched by ron zook, so i see alittle bit of vontae in the dez situation
and the ohter stuff you said was right
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Vontae's "Issues" were guilt by association with his brother
and not technically starting a game that he played the vast majority of, anyways.
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Nail on the head
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
no it wasnt guilt by association
sure when vontae was coming out vernon was still all talent no production(now hes a pro bowler) and there were some comparison there but vontae did have some character questions surrounding him thats why he slipped so far
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But I think the point Fox was trying to make is that if a guy has some minor
issued but his older brother has has issues at the next level and people start saying “hes going to be just like his big brother” then they are taking some license to assume that hes going to be a head case “just like his brother”! That is for sure some guilt by association despite that he had in fact made some mistakes of his own.
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no its not because vernon davis wasnt a headcase
sure he had a little situation with mike singletary but for the most part vernon was never known as a bad character guy he is a hard worker and physical freak but before last year he didnt produce like his measuables suggested
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I think he was seen as a head-case by many.
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no my friend he wasnt a headcase i remember coming out of college
people praises his work ethic which is why he was the 6th pick in the 06’ draft
Finest Hour
Thats still not my point. My point is that hes seen that way now by
“some” around the league. If you listened to the press there was plenty of comparison between the two and how some teams might have shy away from him because of his brother. I am not saying that this was correct or not a misrepresentation of what the fact may have actually been but it was still the perception. In the real world perception is reality.
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I would rather have Brandon Marshall
But I’ve heard Bryant’s the best talent at WR to come out since Calvin Johnson. I wouldn’t mind havin him as long as he keeps his mouth shut (at least for the most part) and does his job, I think we should go for it.
This means they're not picking him, right?
Unless it’s a change of tactics.
I understand “shoe” was on the dinner menu….
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Was thinking the same thing.
If they meet with a player it means they’re doing it for deception, right? And we watch the players we do want thru binoculars from the bushes…
#54
K!, did u read this?
" the Dolphins sat down with Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline in a similar setting before selecting those two receivers in the 2009 draft"
Im the only one reading incorrectly or there is ppl hating Dez and luving Marshal?
The worse part is the Marshal is a no good fellow, worse than Peeze
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)
Really? You've met Marshall?
What is he like in person?
How is his family.
How does he feel about Healthcare?
What’s his favorite color?
Favorite NBA Team?
oh wait…. you know nothing about him, except for media reports.
Who cares what he did before…..really. I believe they never even met with Jake Long? Do I remember that correctly?
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You know what is meant... lol
… and through a swollen, broken lip, with puffy blackened eyes, his lady said… “he’s a good provider”.
lol
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by Alpha6 on Apr 2, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This^
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like you know nothing about if the front office has done any work on what Marshall would mean to the team.
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This is also true.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Rereading it now, that comes across really condescending....
I apologize, as it was not meant in that tone.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 2, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
no worries Mosul
I hold you in the highest regard around here.
I didn’t give it a second thought.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
by Fr8Train on Apr 2, 2010 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is that singing of Kumbaya that I hear?
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what a wonderful phrase lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
It Ain't No passing crazy....
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B.Marshall is a bad dude, we can say it, it's true
Anyone who has MULTIPLE assault incidents (on his girlfriends no less) is just bad. Now with McDaniels, there is one incident that is still in question. I don’t doubt alot of athletes get manipulated for $. But MULTIPLE incidents, there’s only one way that can be spun. If McDaniels is charged and convicted and he truly assaulted someone, then I don’t want him on the team. Also, seeing the video of B.M. acting like a 2 yr old in practice speaks volumes about his character. That’s actual charges and actual physical evidence of being a true schmuck. I’m not even throwing in any hearsay or accusations.
Yeah we don’t know his favorite color but we know enough not to want him. Have some (low) standards people!
by Red Dog on Apr 2, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least they are taking the time to meet with him
It’d have been a shame if they dismissed what might be a fantastic player based on heresay.
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i like the idea of taking Dez more and more everyday!
he’s not the “diva” reciever the media tries to make him out to be. and ppl dont get why the phins might take Dez but not trade for Marshall for the same price.
Dez’s negative behavior:
having dinner with a guy and lying about it.
he forgot his cleats to his pro-day. (which is actually half true, he showed up with a few pairs of brand new cleats. he just forgot the comfortable, broken in ones. its not like he just showed up with no cleats and was like “oh shit!”)
and this i think is the only true negative he has, and thats the reports of being lazy. idk if there true or not. but its scary. but i think if he can convince Parcells that he’ll work hard, then im 100 percent okay with drafting him.
Marshall’s negative behavior:
he has been accused of beating a woman more than once, by more than 1 woman.
he was involed in a nightclub shooting that resulted in the death of a teamate.
and he does demand the ball
he was throwing a fit in practice last year and acting like a child
those are the differences. he’s not a bad kid or a troubled person. i would much rather give the young guy a chance.
My 1st round draft board:
1. Eric Berry
2. Dez Bryant
3. Earl Thomas
4. Trade down
Dez vs. Marshall.
a) Dez had 6 months to prepare for his Pro Day. Pro Days are scripted to make the athlete look their absolute BEST. No question. What does Dez do? Screws up with his cleats. Gets so frustrated running cone drills he gives up on them, and doesn’t run hard to the finish. He also stops doing the bench press, when according to scouts, he clearly wasn’t fatigued…he just stopped. And also according to scouts who were there….he didn’t seem all that excited to be there…just moped around.
b) There were rumors about Dez being lazy, being late to games, etc. So any intelligent human being, and surely their agent who is going to make their percentage, is going to make sure that the Pro Day….their business interview, goes perfect….to make people forget the rumors of how lazy he was……Oops. That didn’t happen.
c) Dez hasn’t played football in over 6 months…. Noone cares about his little meeting. But he’s been off the field for 6 months…..he should have been training for his Pro Day, which he clearly wasn’t.
d) The ONLY Crime Marshall has committed is a DUI. Thats it. The rest is a just paperwork, and open to interpretation. Clearly he and his ex’s had conflicts….where both were at fault. However, the court system, never found him at fault….so end of story. Don’t like the DUI? Look over our roster, and you’ll see a ton of them.
e) Marshall, unlike Dez. Has proven to be successful in the NFL. Not just successful, but one of the BEST Wide Receivers in the game. He’s a top 5 guy. He’s put up monster numbers under 2 different head coaches, 2 different offensive schemes, and 2 different QB’s throwing him the ball. The man produces. PERIOD. We don’t know if Dez will produce. We don’t even know if Dez will cash his check and get lazy like Charles Rogers. WE DON’T KNOW.
f) and this is the absolute most important, so I’m typing in Caps so you can understand. ANY GOOD PLAYER WANTS THE BALL. Wide Receiver’s want the ball. Period. Running Backs Want the Ball…..WINNERS WANT THE BALL. I don’t give a damn that he demands the ball, because when he gets it, he produces….done.
The Man broke an NFL record for receptions in a game, with Kyle Orton throwing him the ball, and a defense that had him double and triple covered all game….
So, maybe we don’t trade for him. But anyone with half a brain understands, that with the ridiculously high failure rate of Wide Receivers, especially HIGH DRAFT PICK WR’s, that you go with the guaranteed guy. You take the proven commodity. If the Front Office drafts Dez Bryant, over trading for Marshall…. then clearly, they aren’t as sharp as we all want to believe.
Now, if they make an effort to sign Marshall, but Denver doesn’t budge….and then they draft Dez….fine. But Spiller better be off the board.
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by Fr8Train on Apr 2, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
failed to mentioned how he got his teamate killed cause he had to mouth off to some thugs.
failed to mention that yeah he had to that what? 21 reception game. but who won that game? oh yeah. the colts.
where in what i wrote did it say i wouldnt trade for marshall?
i wouldnt mu
i woulnt the trade if he stayed out of trouble. i was just stating the difference in there negative aspects. Marshalls negative are far worse than Dez’s. and like i said. if Dez can convince Parcells that he’ll work hard. im 100 percent okay with Dez as our 1st round pick.
also saying that Dez hasnt been working toward his pro-day. he showed up F’ing shredded. you dont get shredded by sitting on the couch eating chips.
and god-forbid he forgot his broken in cleats. he must be a total AH. like anyone of us can say we never did something stupid. give the kid a break
by phinfan20 on Apr 2, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you're crazy bro
absolutely crazy. First of all, blaming Marshall for some idiot shooting Darrent Williams is complete bullshit, and you should be ashamed just typing that. Seriously.
Secondly, Marshalls POSITIVES far outweigh Dez’s positives, because, like Fr8 said, Marshall has produced at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL, while Dez Bryant is not even in the league yet, and already he looks like a problem. Dez hasn’t been working towards his pro day, because no matter what his physique looked like, he wasn’t prepared to perform. Numerous people have reported that he looked lazy, unmotivated, and disinterested. That’s not “doing something stupid,” that’s not giving a shit about the biggest day in your career, a day that can make or cost you MILLIONS of dollars. If he doesn’t care about his pro day, do you think he’s going to care about a game in September when he isn’t getting the ball thrown his way? Not a chance.
Marshall’s off-the-field issues are overblown, and his supposed “attitude problem” seems like it’s a product of McDaniels, since Cutler had the same issues with JMcD, as well as our new DC, Mike Nolan. Neither of them were happy with the way McDaniels handles things, but Marshall is the only one that seems to get killed in the media for it.
Bottom line, if I have the 12th pick and I’m looking at Brandon Marshall or Dez Bryant, it’s Marshall 100 times out of 100 with no hesitation. Anybody who says otherwise doesn’t know their draft history, doesn’t watch football, and listens to way too much Todd McShay.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont blame marshall for what happened. i might have said that wrong. sorry. but..
Marshall himself has said that he feels he caused it because of thing he said to those ppl. but still, what happened to them was terrible. and i would never wish that on anyone. i apologize if i sounded insensative
Never mind my comment below about telling the police :)
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
but back to football
i know Marshall’s positives are greater than Dez’s positives (as of right now, we have to see how he develops). but his negatives are worse.
but like i’ve said. if Marshall stays out of trouble. i wouldnt mind trading for him
Parcells was convinced Pat White was a good pick.
and he at this point also missed on Patrick Turner.
2 High picks last year alone.
Granted overall he’s had a good draft history, as good as you can expect anyway. But it just goes to show that even the mighty Parcells is wrong from time to time when it comes to the draft.
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
I'm not happy with those picks either
but we are all making these assumptions that Pat White and Patrick Turner will never be good, and I don’t know about you but I don’t have that crystal ball. Maybe we get lucky and they turn out phenominal players…then again maybe not.
by Rumple Pigskin on Apr 2, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Or that BP made those decisions alone...
…those picks were the collaboration of the Triad. They want to be innovators of the wild cat in the present day. Tuna I think guides, but I think Ireland decides.
well 1 you have to remember when they picked Pat White. know one knew yet if Henne was the guy yet.
and its only been 1 season. they can still develop. im positive Patrick Turner will. idk about White, i just think he might be to small. but you still got to give them a couple more season before you can say there busts.
remember Miles Austin sat on the bench in Dallas for 4 years before he broke out! just give them time
I would not say Austin was riding the bench as much as he was used
primarily used as a return man ect… It also a much different situation in Dallas where they spent most of the TO era in Dallas trying to force the ball to him and trying to keep his dumb ass happy. Once TO was gone there was room for Austin to show what he could do.
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
even after to left austin still wasnt starting though
he didnt crack the lineup until patrick crayton of all people got benched
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Well that was still political because they were still trying to force
the ball to Roy to justify their trade. Its much more political in Dallas as to who plays and who does not. The point I am making is that he could have started much soon given the chance.
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Im just trying to argue against the idea that some people
have that it took 4 years for him to develop because he was not a starter before that point.
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I disagree that Marshalls negatives are worse
Bryant doesn’t appear to care about being a good player. Marshall, for all the 911 calls to his house, shows up on the field and outplays everybody lined up across from him. I take the proven player over the unknown any day of the week.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
i know. i was pulling for the marshall trade since the begining of the season. i just dont think they'll make the move to get him
so im just looking at who i think the will actually get. so if i had to choose between all the wideouts in the draft. i choose Dez. but who ever the phins draft (unless its just absolutly rediculous) im going to trust thats the best move they could of made for the team.
^ This
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Well Nicky's comment I second :)
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I know draft history, I watch football, and I don't listen to McShay
And yet, I can very easily say, it’s not 100 out of 100. Why? Because there is obviously something that the front office doesn’t like about Marshall. I will trust the front office in determing that he is not a fit for our team.
Would I like to see Marshall in teal? Why not. Would I mind the pick of Bryant? No, but I would prefer we didn’t. But, either way, it’s like the people here just assume the front office is either blind, or too lazy to realize that Marshall is out there. Guys, when you have a big time coach from the player’s team, even if it is an offensive player and a defensive coach, you have to assume they have at least talked about the player.
Give up all of this “WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR FRONT OFFICE?” rant and realize, they are doing their jobs. It just not make the news every day.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Apr 2, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have never once done that "this" stuff before, but I will do it one time and ONLY one time because of just how strongly I agree with you.
THIS^.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. i agree.
maybe theres something Mike Nolan knows about Marshall that we dont.
or like i said before, there waiting to see how the first couple picks of the draft go. like say for w.e reason Berry did fall to 12, wouldnt you be pissed off that we traded or 1st for Marshall when we could of got Berry? idk.
There's enough on Marshall w/o the shooting to not want him
Yeah, talented, but self-destructing. Dez may not be the thug that B.M. is, but he will probably hold out and will not mesh with our ‘in your face’ ‘stay accountable’ coaching style.
I don’t want either of them!
yeah that's ridiculous
I’ve had friends that were involved in a fight where somebody was killed, they feel guilty, they feel like it was their fault. But it’s not like this guy was out having a good time, then Brandon Marshall said something, and the guy all the sudden became violent and decided to shoot somebody (with a loaded gun he just “happened” to have on him all night long?). It’s not Marshall’s fault that Williams was killed, it’s the guy that fired the gun’s fault. Plain and simple. If one guy’s words escalate you from “I’m good” to “I’m going to kill somebody,” you have serious issues. Blaming Marshall is just reaching for a reason why you don’t want him on the team, and I don’t agree with it one bit.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Does that mean that Pacman can't be blamed for the paralyzed
bouncer even though Jones started the disturbance.
Jones didn’t fire the gun but IF he hadn’t started the mess then the bouncer wouldn’t have been forced to do his job with the end result being getting shot by a member of his posse, I personally don’t see how Jones’ actions aren’t the direct cause of a man being confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life…do you?
by firedanhenningnow on Apr 2, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The difference is
Brandon Marshall didn’t start the disturbance…..Pacman did.
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your right
Marshall and his cousin sprayed champagne on another club patron and his friend.
im sure Marshall didnt start anything by doing that
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From what I read it had already been heated before then.
and do we know if it was Marshall or his cousin that sprayed the guy? I’ve been to many a club where beer or champagne or whatever gets sprayed for some sort of celebration. Its not frequent, but its enough to know its not exactly unusually.
Usually its a drunk dude and his friends, or a bachelor/bachelorette party… either way….its annoying. But I’ve never thought of shooting someone because of it.
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Wtf?
and do we know if it was Marshall or his cousin that sprayed the guy?
maybe you didnt read this correctly
Marshall and his cousin sprayed champagne on another club patron and his friend.
and thats not the point..the point is Marshall did start the altercation that led to the death of a person therfore there is no difference between that situation and pacman
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by Deuce Black on Apr 2, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so, you are sure that champagne was sprayed?
Have you listened to the court testimony of that night?
Brandon Marshall’s Testimony in Darrent Williams Case
I’ve heard media reports that it occurred…. but its never brought up by the prosecutor at all.
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of course it happened
it’s in a quote box silly lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
thats not funny
it did happen, and someones life was taken because of it
i wouldnt quote it if it wasnt real
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
actually they did your audio was from one session
of the trial
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35547255/ns/sports-nfl/
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
Is that the whole one?
I would actually like to find a full audio.
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no it wasnt the whole one
it was a two week trial so thats a lot of damn audio
but thats not the point….. the point is that Brandon Marshall started an altercation that led to the death of a person
you add that up with all his other criminal activity and you can see why teams arent lining up to give up their first round pick
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
From the portion I listened too
It sounded like his cousin and D. William’s table had more than one altercation with the guy before Marshall was involved. Marshall says he “probably” escalated it as they were leaving by telling one of the guys that he didn’t have a gun….and another dude punched Marshall.
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the point is
Marshall was involved and he put himself in this situation trying to get involved with an altercation involving gang members
and someones life was lost in the end
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
and thats not a guy i would feel comfortable paying
10 million a year to and all that guaranteed money as well(like 30-40 mil)
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
But you'd feel comfortable paying a guy
who thinks Pacman “did everything right”.
and a guy who was wholly unprepared for his Pro Day, and according to scouts, didn’t seem all that interested in working out at the Pro Day, also a guy who gives up on drills, knowing it will give a bad impression of him. A guy who forgets a basic essential for his workout, a guy who already compares himself to Hall of Fame Receivers despite not even catching single ball in the NFL.
The words entitlement come to mind when I think of Dez Bryant.
I see this kid getting a fat paycheck, and then taking the attitude that, “I got mine, I’ll float by”
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How about neither because both are potential
time bombs.
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by texascowpunk on Apr 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You had it right the first time.
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heres the thing your not paying
dez bryant half the money marshall is goin to get
also if entitlement comes to mind when you think of dez what comes to mind when you nthink of marshall….criminal? wife beater? immature?
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
and another thing
what Brandon Marshall going to do with his payday
I see marshall getting a fat paycheck, and then taking the attitude that, "I got mine, now i can commit some more crimes
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
and im sure thats what all
of the 32 teams are thinking as well
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
You realize you replied
to yourself twice.
You do that a lot. I find it humorous.
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yes i did and i do that because sometimes i have more things to add
and if you find it funny than i guess it is after all you are the comedian
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
Wait what?
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He did end up getting involved in the altercation
However, from listening to the testimony, it sounds like he had been trying to defuse the situation all night with these guys.
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your right he probably defused it
when he and his cousin sprayed champagne on a bunch of crips
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
You know, I haven't seen a
single official report of that says that.
I’ve heard a ton of media reports about it, but nothing official. and I’ve seen nothing official about it in the testimony that I’ve listened to.
So, if you have a link to something official that says that happened, I would love to see it.
Although, Its not hard to imagine, since it was New Years Eve….
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What official reports are you going to see? your not a district attorney
you dont have access to that. and the “testimony” you listened to(from that link) was from one conversation. i doubt you listened to all two weeks worth of audio because if you did then you wouldve of heard it
Brandon Flowers testified UNDER OATH that he seen them spray champagne on the gang members
and i already provided you with a link so if you cant face the facts then dont
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
Settle down Junior.
I was simply asking for a link to where one my find such reports, because all I’ve see “officially” was media reports.
If its in the testimony of the court trial, then obviously it happened.
I’m sure they didn’t spray it AT the gang members, but more than likely sprayed it celebrating NEW YEARS EVE, like many do. And the gang punks got wet, and had to pull their punk cards.
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true
spraying them with champagne isnt motive nor does it give you the right to kill someone
but your dealing with gang members here so you cant expect anything positive to come out of that
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
it was a two week trial so you need some more audio than that
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
Umm... you have to take some responsibility for your actions....
Dude, seriously, if you mouthed off to some crip or blood at a club and he shot me for being with you, i’d say there is some level of responsibility. It’s called being labeled as a DUMBASS, at the very least. So yeah, I think B. Marshall is a complete asshole who is probably going to fry in Hell for his choices here on Earth. P.S. Dez Bryant is NOT like Brandon Marshall, he’s like Charles Rogers. Both would be HORRIBLE for our team. La fin.
A couple things you'd hear if you listen to the testimony.
1) The Thug told Marshall outside the club (when arriving) “We’z street niggers with money too”….Marshall joked with them about buying drinks. He made sure security let them in to diffuse the situation.
2) More than once in the club, the thugs were getting in Marshall’s cousin’s face, and D. Williams face. Marshall again attempted to diffuse the situation, by trying to buy the guys drinks and offered to let them party with them in their VIP section.
So, when he did finally mouth off to these dudes, more than likely he was fed up….just like anyone of us would get, after trying to calm a situation down that didn’t involve us. These guys just happened to go get guns and come back shooting.
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The thing with that situation he egged it on by allowing them
Anybody from the inner city or from a big city in general know when you come across dumb asses like those thugz BM ran into, you turn around and walk away no point in egging it on. And by egging it on okay help them in the club because you have connects but why on Gods good green earth would you want them in the same VIP as you? I see his logic behind it but it was a bad decision to let them into the VIP.
Now as far as the shooting goes it is all on the shoulders of the shooter nobody else but that ignorant thug that pulled the trigger.
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Or maybe the REALLY smart move is to just leave the club as soon as you
see that sort of thuggery hanging around it. I don’t know about the rest of you but the places I go to never seem to have that sort of element around. At some point if a guy is always in trouble or around trouble or in some way connected to the trouble he has some serious issues PERIOD! Sure maybe the shooting was not his fault, or he was arrested several times but not charged, or had the police called to his residence on numerous occasions, and so on. At what point do people not realize that this guy is trouble. This number if incidents do not just follow guys around because they are good guys that are doing the right things. You know why I dont have these sorts of issues in my life? Because I do not get in or stay in volatile relationships and I do not spend time with those that might likewise attract trouble because in the end if I put myself in those situations or ran with those sorts of people I would be GUILTY by association. I have not lived a perfect life and I have made some bad decisions but nothing that even scratches the surface of what this dude has gotten in to. I also dont buy this crap about “only wanting” choir boys on the team. We have plenty of guys on the roster with an arrest or some history of a stupid mistake but not a history like this guy. I guess if you somehow feel that the guy will not be involved in another incident, which his history in no way suggests, then I can see you wanting the guy. I am sure we can all agree that the next incident is going to be a suspension. Thats when it gets to the level of him hurting his team and not just his own reputation. Having been a fan all my life I just do not want to have to live through another situation like we did with Ricky back in the day. Loosing your top offensive weapon after you have given so much for him it like being stabbed in the chest. Or in my case you receive your $140 authentic Williams Jersey in the mail a week before he is suspended for a season.
Would I be willing to take that gamble for a later pic? Sure, maybe! I just do not thing that hes worth the gamble given his current price-tag. I do not thing Dez is going to be worth the gamble either by the way.
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I didn't realize that Marshall had pulled the trigger...
Someone should notify the police.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If he's so good and crime free...
… why haven’t teams jumped all over this opportunity of picking him up…?
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For the same reasons teams didn't jump all over Terrell Owens a few years back
when he was still wildly productive and dominant.
Perhaps Marshall takes an unfair brunt of that predisposition due to a true problem child, but that’s how it is today and that’s how it will be because of players like this (whether they fit the bill and deserve it or not).
But, by the way, I agree with your point. There’s CLEARLY a reason that 31 other teams aren’t jumping all over him.
Know what that is?
They either want to let Denver suffer the problem, knowing Marshall will just wreak havoc on that team, or wait until Denver lowers the asking price.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
whoa!
Terrell Owens has a clear history of tearing up locker rooms thats why teams werent quick to jump on him and now his age is catching up to him so it doesnt help his cause
Now marshall on the other hand has criminal history i dont think its the asking price because clearly he is worth it but nobody is willing to take that risk because if marshall gets into another situation off the field and misses time then that contract will set your franchsise back
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It’s everything. On the field, off the field, doing naked sit-ups in your driveway for attention. Dude is just messed up in the head.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
thats what i meant he was a diva and brought un wanted attention to your team
but that doesnt compare to marshall because marshalls issues are different
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neither Marshall nor Bryant
will ever be on the Dolphin roster, period write it down and read the truth
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I guest i can c ur point!
Is more realistic too.
I just hope we get one of them, tho Marshall looks like he will never be a Dolphin(unless Ross want him here and become a wanabe Al Davis type of owner, so BP and comp leave) so that leave me hoping for Dez, if he fault to us. The problem is that players that i want never get pick by the Dolphins, only JLong and that was a given.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)
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The ONLY Crime Marshall has committed is a DUI. Thats it. The rest is a just paperwork, and open to interpretation.
thats a good one but i gues you cant really interpret battered females, black eyes, bruises, and broken windsheilds
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by Deuce Black on Apr 2, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention the one battery charge that was witnessed by a police officer in public
but the charges were dropped because the woman that he is not engaged to refused to cooperate with the police. Note that this is not even the same woman that was involved in the previous incidents.
As far as the charges being dropped over and over and the claim by some that “some of these issues were also because of the woman” do not fly with me. Bottom line in life is if you have that kind of crap that you are a part of happening over and over then the blame is also his and he has to take responsibility for it. He never takes responsibility for anything up to and including when he bashed in the cab drivers who was taking away his girlfriends windshield. I could care less what happened to precede that indecent just think how freaked out that cabbie must have been. Who does that?
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The Clan is behind you Fr8Train

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What If?
With the 12th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft Miami picks——Dez Bryant….Here me out. What if we pick Dez and trade him and Smiley to Dallas for the 27th pick and Miles Austin? Then with the 27th pick we get T. Cody.
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1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS
no
I’m pretty sure if we do that we would get jerry hughes or somebody actually projected to go in the first round… We could get cody in round 2
by west coast phinfan on Apr 2, 2010 2:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What about the trade?
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If we did do that trade, which isn’t that bad of an idea, we would take jerry hughes or even mike iupati to fill in smileys spot then take cody in rd 2 or if were lucky rd 3
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Not sure if Cody gets past SD or the teams in front of us in the 2nd though.
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im sure
SD has more problems… They traded away their best corner and lost a hall of fame running back… Unless they are going to pass pass pass (which I doubt) they will pass on cody… And there is a lot of more talent that is more valuable to the teams in front of us so I don’t think they would take cody…
by west coast phinfan on Apr 2, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You spelt "hear" wrong...
and that’s not even the stupidest thing about what you said. Miles is a proven star who has improved at a rapid pace (fwiw I added him to my Madden ‘10 team and he was Superbowl MVP, shaboom!), and Dez is a rookie WR with a little baggage already. They wouldn’t trade their mega t.v. for him.
#54
Funny thing is all you had to say is you dissagree.
When you say you Added him to your Madden ‘10 Team I understand where you are coming from. Sorry, I used Here/Hear in the wrong context. By the way 54. Why are there rumors that Dallas is looking at Dez? Why has Jerry Jones not cut Roy Williams? An I know he’s guaranteed like $10mil. That’s playing time that can be used elsewhere. Why have we not heard where Smiley is getting traded to? Dallas needs O-Line help and that’s why their looking at Iupati. I just posed a question or a hypothetical trade. A player is not superstar in the NFL after one year, but, I guess that’s not how it works on Madden 10. fwiw—-ntfm.
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They slapped a 1st round and 3rd rounder tender on Austin
They wouldn’t give him up for Dez ever. Miles has proven himself already, he has great hands and his YAC was huge. Dez hasn’t played in a while and will probably take time to develop, regardless who knows if he’ll ever meet expectations. (Look at Ginn.) Just saying no team would trade a player who already proved himself in the league for a rookie receiver, not with only an o-line man attached to him and especially not with giving up their 1st rounder as well. Don’t take it too personally, just that’s a REALLY hypothetical/optimistic trade, dude.
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I’ve read three different translations. Took a while to find the right one. Patton Principles is a better read and a little less known and a little more about life. The way I’m looking at this is that the FO knows it needs a #1. If they are not going to go after Marshall then who? Who knows maybe they think Marshall might be the next Rae Carruth. They know what their getting with Austin and Dallas has been known to trade with us. I understand that Austin is valued that highly by Jones. Dallas is deep at receiver and J. Jones has been known to do some crazy trades. Maybe we have to throw in a pick who knows.
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FinFanFromCA Roy Williams has been cut!
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When did That happen?
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Its being reported by the local ABC channel here in Dallas.
Flozell Adams was also cut loose.
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And I guess like just in the last hour or so.
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I haven't seen any web-buzz about Williams
I saw the safety and Flozelle though
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Yeah I am not sure they got it right because they reported it like 30
min ago but I can not find it anywhere. Hell its not even on their own website.
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I've heard about Adams and Hamlin. Not Williams though.
This also backs the point I tried making on O.J. Atogwe and Dallas having an interest in him.
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See above.
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Got Ya.
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They will be idiots to not cut him free at that price. This is the
one year that you can clean out that cap. Better take advantage of it.
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R. Williams
I believe he still has like $10mil guaranteed. So I could understand why they don’t. This is also why I throw M. Austin out there as a possible trade. I don’t know if Austin has signed his tender yet. J. Jones loves them receivers. U take Dez, trade Austin and give R. Williams another year. If Williams doesn’t work you’ve got Dez and Crayton. Then you cut Williams next year. Dallas to me is a team that is one player away. Who that player is or what position. Who knows.
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I think they are "one coach" away
if you ask me.
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This^
Their HC is one hell of a DC but a terrible HC.
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link it or it did not happen!
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And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or just read all the comments!
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't happen
but I like your thinking! Getting a proven receiver and not losing any draft picks.
by Rumple Pigskin on Apr 2, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Because that probably wouldn't be plausible on Dallas' side.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love to have him on the Phins but it would suck when people started to riot in the streets around here.
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if we take bryant
We are totally bailing on patrick turner. We didn’t pick him in the third for no reason… Pete carrol said it would take time for him to develop into the offense… We have him we actually have a good wide reciver… We can take one in the later rounds and focus on more inportant needs like the defense that let up the most points in the 4th quarter last year… And if turner does turn out to be a bust (I highly doubt it) and so does the one that we get from this draft then we should look at next year… My personally favorite is AJ Green out of georgia… So just give him a chance. He could be great
by west coast phinfan on Apr 2, 2010 1:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dude, No offense
But Patrick Turner couldn’t beat out of 4th best Wide Receiver last year….
as of a week ago, Sparano said in an interview that Turner still needs to work on his fundamentals, polish his route running, getting better off the line, and be aggressive for the ball.
Thats after an entire year of coaching, as well as an offseason.
If Turner was coming around, we’d have heard about it by now.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
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still
It took him 2 too 3 years to become what he was at usc.. And there he had like the best coaching staff in college football
by west coast phinfan on Apr 2, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only doctors should
The only wisdom is the knowledge that you don't know.
And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's another "project" WR...
The same thing we’ve had for 15 years….
Hopefully he figures it out. But based on what the coach, and GM have been saying as little as a week ago, he’s not getting it. And if he is getting it, he’s not getting it fast.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Not true
Look at it from Sparano’s perspective. You’ve got rookie QB and a young WR corps. You’ve got one WR draftee who gobbled down the entire playbook and is comfortable lining up everywhere (Hartline). Of the limited experience in your WR corps., you have Bess (polished), Camarillo (dependable), and Ginn (fast as holy f#$%). It gets crowded quick. I can see Sparano looking at Patrick and letting him develop.
I also have my own conspiracy theory about Sparano’s coaching tactics: I have noticed they draft in pairs, and the lower pick usually starts ahead of the higher one. Langford over Merling, Smith over Davis, Thomas over Murphy. You could say that this lights a fire under the higher picks, sending a clear message, while motivating lower picks to work they’re way up, it’s the best man’s job…….
Dez
Brandon Marshall 4 our 1st pick would be awesome. If we do draft a WR i’d rather it be Dez than a project in the 3rd round. All the bad press this kid is getting is unfair.It’s not like he’s assaulting women in Georgia(allegedly)
HE IS SUCH AN IDIOT
i’m not sure i want him anymore, he doesn’t understand why people are talking about forgetting his cleats
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Apr 2, 2010 3:01 AM EDT reply actions
Nice...
but what do you guys call it…the “smokescreen”?
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Can the Dolphins bear Bryant?
He raises a lot of questions.
What’s not in question is: That’s a $1 million body capable of excelling on a football field.
We’re still trying to nail down the $ value of his head..but right now it’s being measured in cents.
It’s rude to call people stupid but Dez seems to have …cognitive issues….the results of which are well documented and debated in this and other threads.
It seems to me, no matter what he done did on the Wonderlic test, he has been badly handled.
After his monster 2008 surely OSU has an interest in keeping him out of trouble and yet
He visits Deion Sanders in May last year. I’m running a college program I don’t let my best player hang with a guy who was involved in Micheal Crabtree’s leaving school early…who is basically an agent…who runs an academy to train guys for the NFL.
If I find out my guy did do that I immediately check with the NCAA to see if it was a violtiation …which hasn’t been determined…and I definitely advise my player not to lie about it because lying to the NCAA will get you suspended no matter what you did in the first place.
It seems to me OSU shares some blame for his suspension, which probably was avoidable.
Don’t they also share with Bryant’s agent some of the blame for Dez’s Pro day? How can he not know how to run drills that are standard? How can he not be in great shape – focused and ready to prove he’s a top five talent?
When they talk about Bradford and McCoy’s Pro days they use the phrase “perfectly orchestrated.” Is it Bryant’s fault his Pro Day wasn’t?
However smart he may or may not be it can’t have been a surprise to OSU or his agent, both of whom, it seems to me, haven’t stepped up to the degree you would thing they would in managing him.
If we pick him, can we manage him? His behavior doesn’t seem rebellious (Marshall) or arogant (TO) just….well dumb. Do the Dolphins have the people on staff to make sure he does the right thng and help him grow into that $1 million body?
Is it Dez-tiny?
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by PhrozenPhish on Apr 2, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Explain to me
What stops us from trading down and using that lower 1st to get Marshall
i can understand why the front office stays away from Marshall but all those same reasons plus more apply to Dez
by sdelinois on Apr 2, 2010 7:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Other teams have to want to trade up with us.
In a very deep draft, with as much talent as this one…. why trade up when you can get similar talent for cheaper?
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
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To all you BM fans
Denver is having a hard time moving him. If no one decides to give the Broncos a first round pick for BM come April 22nd, would they take the next best offer? Say a seecond rounder and a player? IMO, if we draft Dez, Bill and Co. can get this kid on the right path from the beginning. BM is already set in his ways. Talented draftees who slip in the first round because of ‘issues’ usually have a chip on their shoulder and want to prove to all the teams that passed on them that they were wrong.
Two Phish-picks who had "Character issues" before the draft
Vonte Davis – so far so good
Dan Marino – slid past five other QBs and into the Hall of Fame
cherry picking
You will find lots of examples where people were wrong about players.
If you take our all the charachter issues from both players Dez and BM I would pick BM 100 times out of 100. Because we know there is only a small chance Dez will ever be a top 5 WR.
Now if you look at charachter issues and “diva” receivers tag they are both given. I think they are equally flawed.
Oh Boy not another TO.
Bryants pro day was terrible. Plus he missed the combine due to a phantom hamstring injury. This guy is all distraction people.
How about Javon Walker remember him? He is with oakland now and hasnt played for years due to injury. I hear they are gonna let him go. He has #1 skills and ability if he can stay healthy.
Plus I like Golden Tate. He can block as well as catch balls and I sincerely feel if we can get some outside blocks our running game will dominate teams all year.
To add to some of the discussion...
I think Marshall will get traded and in all likelihood the price is probably going to go down the closer we get to draft day.
Much like McNabb, while a trade hasn’t happened yet, it probably will as in the interim, teams explore their options, interview prospects, and make up their minds.
I have a hard time picturing Marshall in Denver given his contract and issues with McDaniels. It makes sense at this point for him to be moved.
I won’t speculate as to whether Miami will be involved in any Marshall trade.
However, Marshall >>>> Bryant is as easy as pie…
The difference is...
Dez can be the next Fitz………or Mike Williams.
While Marshall………is Marshall and that is a guaranteed = top 10 WR in this league vs a crap shoot…
ok and along with that proven wr you get in marshall
comes his 10 million a year contract and our first round pick…not to mention all the off the field issues he brings with him
Dez is another issue away from a big time suspension by goodell so sure hes proven but will he ever make it on the field
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1 - don't assume Marshall will fetch a first round pick..
2 – even if it did cost a #1 pick, it is still a way, way better risk than Dez
3 – most importantly, the dolphins may have no real interest in either guy! ;-)
DEZ or Marshall
I am really excited to see that miami has at least talked to DEZ…PROPS to the Tuna and staff for at least looking him over in person… its their job, but I didint expect it…….Marshall is another great option for miami – and would be better if we could offer maybe a 2nd and 6th or maybe a player and a second… then i would prefer MARSHALL only because hs is a PROVEN NFL WR STAR…but DEZ is younger and would be our Franchise WR for a long time if he pans out…. I believe he will, but Marshall would bring a 1,000 yd WR right now..If you could trade a 2nd plus (player or addl. low round pick) then you could use the #12 overall and try to trade down in the 1st getting a 2nd rounder back… that would make a lot of sense…
PAT TURNER SUCKS….. come on people…He couldnt even crack the lineup last year on a average WR crew – and his fundamentals are still weak ? Really after a year ? CLASSIC USC underachiever in college, same in the Pros…
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You people are ridiculous! "Oh id rather have marshall because hes proven"
Thats class A BULLSHIT once upon a time Brandon Marshall was a unproven reciever coming into the leauge, EVERY damn player in the 2010 draft pool is unproven wtf is your point
You think the texans were going to pass on Andre Johnson to get a “Proven” receiver
You think the Cardinals were going to pass on Larry Fitz to get a “Proven” receiver
you think the lions(even after bust like mike williams and charles rodgers) were goin to pass on Calvin Johnson to take a "Proven receiver
i didnt think so and it bullshit that people want to question dez’s heart and him as a person because of a damn proday, who gives a damn. Sure the kid maybe immature but what 21 year old isnt?(with the discipline of this FO he’ll tighten up), now i would have had a problem if he was immature and smoking marrijuna, beating his girlfriend, getting in trouble with the law, but thats not the case at all.
Finest Hour
Um...
Sure the kid maybe immature but what 21 year old isnt?
Tebow!
Matt Ryan, Michael Oher, Myrone Rolle, ….plenty of guys have mature heads on their shoulders despite being young.
Bryant is taking the predictable me against the world attitude but the fact is he’s got everything to prove (just like every other nfl prospect)…the difference is most of the other guys know that they have to prove themselves. Dez meanwhile seems to think he’s beyond/above that..
Please really? Tim Fuckin Tebow
im sorry that not every 21 year old goes to the phillipines on church missions or go to oxford to become fuckin rhode scholars. be real.
were people creating rumors that matt ryan, michel oher, or myron rolle about being late to practice, and all the other crap out there hell micheal oher got a movie made about his life
and how do you know dez believes he is beyond that just because goes off on the media?
Finest Hour
Maybe you ought to be real and then stop making bogus statements like:
Sure the kid maybe immature but what 21 year old isnt?
How do I know what Dez believes in?
Clearly Dez believes in half-assing his own pro day and then throwing a minor tantrum, voiced through the media, about how he’s been almost persecuted.
Showing up to your own audition/interview in pajamas, chewing gum, and showing little interest……and then being outraged to find that people weren’t impressed.
Pot calling the kettle black.
I agree with Talya...
There’s a reason why picking decent players with good character and a blue collar work ethic often goes much further than filling the roster with talented hotheads, potheads, lazyheads, DUIheads, take-a-gun-on-a-planeheads or slap-my-girlheads.
Any of these adjectives can cost a team a game or cost the public a life and frankly, there’s enough non-millionaires that are already doing that, for me to sit as a fan and watch a similar process through my team.
If, for some reason, the Dolphins’ management decides on one of these two or any other similar player they must know and feel more than what I have access to. Besides, what choice do I have?
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
lol I really hope you're joking
I don’t have an hour on my hands to do so.
But, if you want even one, top-of-the-head example, how do you just stop bench-pressing when you’re not even tired? How do you just stop running drills that EVERYONE important is watching? You set up this Pro Day to give yourself more time to prepare, and to give interested parties a show of your talents and abilities, and you’re no more prepared than the Combine.
That’s LAZY. It’s an attitude that translates to the field once you actually have a paycheck in your hand.
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by Dave.Phuller on Apr 2, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
all im going to say is i hope we draft him because he will be a #1
i wasnt there so i dont know what really went on but i dont buy into all that hoopla and what not surrounding but whether its for us or another team this kid will be a #1
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I won't say this as a disagreement
because I (along with everybody in the world) have no idea how he’ll fare in the NFL, but, isn’t that what people said about Rogers/Williams?
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yes that is true
but rogers was a criminal and addicted to weed but yet the lions still drafted him now hes probably in jail
As for mike williams he was talented but couldnt create seperation on top of that he had weight problems and ate himself out the leauge
dez has neither of those problems
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Arguable
the separation problems with Dez, I’ve heard, are documented.
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Dez though if he doesnt get separation will win the jump ball. He reminds me of Fitz in that sense. either he's catching it or no one is
plus in the NFL is hard to get separation anyway. we need someone who can go take the ball out of the air
not from what I read
Do you know him? What are you basing this on?
true ^
Not to mention with miami selecting dez thats a lot of jersey sales. Instant team publicity. And that matters to the front office. Thats why they wanna get rid of all the 1:00 pm games. To put fans in the seats. If it comes down to it Miami will select Bryant with the 12th then work on DE in the second.
TED GINN
Need I say more. Dez could end up another Ted Ginn, Brandon Marshall or Jerry Rice. None of us know which one he will be for sure. If you ask me he will be more like Marshall from the articles I read.
ok enough
ted ginn wasnt even a polished wr coming out he wasnt supposed to go that high dont compare him to dez
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enough enough
How many mid first round picks end up being top 5 players at their position.
Dez could end up another Ted Ginn, Brandon Marshall or Jerry Rice.
Ahh…I’ll take door number 3.
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LOL...Dez is a classic pot-head!
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1. Lazy
2. Forgets sh*t (i.e. cleats!)
3. Doesn’t care about anything
4. Bet he’s awesome at video games
He may have been stoned at his pro day…
lol thats a different way to look at it
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speaking from my own experience in college...
I once tried going to the gym after getting high…fell asleep on the bench. So points to Dezzy for staying awake during his bench press, at least. The “giving up early” part is pretty much disgusting to me though, assuming he wasn’t high.
yea I smoke too but I agree with NONE of Dez's actions on or off the field
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not saying you do just saying what I think
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yeah, I don't either...
I’ve posted recently that I don’t want Dezzy or BM on our team…cancer injection? No thanks! The major difference between you and I and Ricky and a guy like Dezzy, is that 75% of us are intelligent and the rest of us don’t get it.
lol exactly
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sorry latlely on here people have been taking things out of context
And I get all hyped up whenever I see it now.
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dam this comment showed where it wasn't supposed to. it was ment to be way up there^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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lol exactly
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p.s.
with regards to OSU and his agent’s roles in him being a complete mess:
1. OSU doesn’t really like him or care about him enough to help him perfect his pro day, imo. He must have rubbed enough people at OSU the wrong way that they basically don’t give 2 sh*ts if he fails. Sounds stupid for the program but perhaps that is just how bad it was with Dez…?
2. His Agent is actually his pot-dealer, only the highs for Dezzy! They plan on smoking a lot of green while they watch the first 6 weeks of the season from the “HOLDOUT” couch. Meanwhile, Deion Sanders is the one actually running the show…pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
lol I definitely agree with your 1st point
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I dont understand why his agent did not send him to someone to prepare him for his
pro day. For example Michael Johnson (the Olympic sprinter for those who do not know) has a center in this area where he trains athletes. Several top players such as Suh spent the weeks before the combine at his center working with professional trainers 12 hours a day to be as ready as possible. Thats dedications even though hes a very confident kid.
So the question is why is there not that kind of drive in Dez? The bottom line for me is you can be the MOST talented kid to ever come out of college but if you are not willing to put in the work you will never make it at the next level.
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yea why didn't his agent show him how to prepare
Oh yea because his agent figures that he can do the same thing he did with Crabtree. Sorry dude he should have realized the difference in work ethic between Crabtree and Dez. Yea Crabtree held out but at least he showed up on time for things and didn’t forget shit. How do I know this? Well because there was no media coverage on it, and before anyone jumps me and says the media doesn’t always tell the truth let me share something with you my dad has always told me “there is his story, then their story and somewhere caught in the middle of all that mess, is the truth”. So yea the media may definitely be blowing some thinsg out of proportion with Dez but I bet there is some truth to what they are saying and yea Dez is right we and the media are persecuting him for his mistakes but maybe he shouldn’t have given us reason to.
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Plus Crabtree was here in Dallas leading up to the combine working out to be as
prepared as possible. I also somewhat put some of his holdout on his agent who I am sure he signed because he trusted him and must have been advising him to hold out.
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exactly
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I will admit, him not being prepared for his pro-day is extreamly disconcerning
But major points for The Tuna for at least giving him a chance to explain himself and make a better impression. I could understand that with Dez missing an entire season and waiting to be draft eligible may have had him in knots so that’s why he wasn’t prepared.
This also is a logical move due to the position we’re in with our first draft pick. We won’t be able to trade up and the possibilities of us trading down isn’t very likely. So if we’re stuck with the 12th pick then we have to interview the BPA’s and Dez is one of them. I’m also expecting them to be interviewing Spiller soon, if they haven’t already.
And to note, I would rather draft Dez than Spiller, if push comes to shove.
i agree.
we also have to consider Henne when it comes to Dez. he really needs someone like Dez to throw to.
just think, if we draft Dez. and Patrick Turner, Brian Hartline, and Davone Bess all keep developing and getting better. and Dez does become the next Calvin Johnson or Fitz. our WR core just went from below average, to pretty damn scary!
true dat with the number 12 pick the only value i see is eric berry and dez bryant
berry completes our secondary and dez would complete our receiving core
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THAT WOULD F!@#ING SCARY!!!
I forgot about how young or WR corp is and how young Henne is—AND how young or LT Jake Long is. If Dez would pan out for us and Hartline, Turner, and Bess keep getting better and better. The offensive side of the ball would be set for years.
i know.
Henne
Bess
Hartline
Sean Smith
Vonte Davis
Jake Long
Fasano
J. Haynos
Nate Garner
Donald Thomas
Paul Soliai
Crowder
Dan Carpenter
Camron Wake
Randy Starks
Langford
Merling
most of those guys are very young. and Wake i think is 28. i mean a lot of those guys havent even broke 25 yet and they see significant playing time. and we have a new crop of rookies coming in. i mean this team is really young. i dont think many ppl realize that. they only gonna get better. if we have another good draft or two. this team will be a serious force
Patrick Turner, Brian Hartline, and Davone Bess all keep developing and getting better
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Well, if we infer correctly, from Sparano
apparently Turner hasn’t been getting better.
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I posted this in Turner's Thread
Dolphins coach Tony Sparano indicated that WR Patrick Turner still has plenty of work to do in picking up the fundamentals of his position.
Sparano wants to see Turner be more aggressive, "a little more polished with route running," and releasing better at the line of scrimmage. Turner failed to record a single catch last season, and he doesn’t appear any closer to making an impact this time around.
Source: Miami Herald
Sparano on Turner’s Progression
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Why all this talk of Dez and Marshall when this is a very DEEEEEEEEP draft??!
One prospect I think could be our own Anquan Boldin is Dorin Dickerson. He should go 2nd – 3rd round. Killed the combine, has played multiple positions, is mature and has no baggage. The guy ran a 4.4! Dez who?
Not to mention everyone here has at least a few draft diamonds of their own….There are many options…….
Dez is all hype, and he may be good, but why risk it when they’re are so many prospects that a) COULD be better, b) WILL be cheaper, and c) WILL NOT be as risky??
dorin dickerson is an undersized tight end
he tried to play wr in the senior bowl and was unimpressive
so he will most likely stay a tight end
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Well, I think he could be developed
And I don’t just mean him specifically, but that there are a lot of good athletes in this draft
exactly
If we’re going to pass on BM then we should pass on Dez for the same reasons. We need a big NT more than anything else.
yaaa
If we draft any widereciver in this draft it should be damian willams… Why? Cause I read somewhere that the jets are interested in him and he played with sanchez at usc… So they would have sanchez with edwards who would hav an season and offseason to kno eachother and then bring in willams when they went too school together? Idk if they should let that happen… Just a thought
by west coast phinfan on Apr 2, 2010 11:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Drafting to spite
is far and away, one of the worst ideas imaginable.
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The reason I don't like Dez
Is his lackluster effort in the things that make you a good pro. You can be talented up the yingyang but if you don’t have a work ethic you will not make it in the pros. He’s a gamer on the college level, but his lack of conditioning will be his demise in the NFL.
If for some reason he fell and I mean FELL in the draft, then I could see taking him, as he is a risk……
lack of conditioning?
dont forget he only played 3 games this year before his suspension so hes far from game shape
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Pathetic really...
another personal attack because I disagree with someone. This is at least the third time it happens while I’ve participated in phinsider discussions. It begs the question of exactly why do these individuals get their feathers so ruffled ? I know for sure the gender thing is a big one…
Remarkably what prompted those insults were not my view on say Shula, Marino, Zach (3 guys I hold in the highest esteem by the way). No rather they have been people mad about my critical views and points about 1) cam cameron, 2) john beck, and now 3) Dez Bryant.
You wouldn’t think such a threesome would inspire such zealous responses from people and prompting them to resort to ad hominem.
by Natalya on Apr 2, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The name "Natalya" wasn't your first clue?
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I'm guessing you don't catch on to much :)
Yes, below the belt….. but he had it coming.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
You think I don't already know this?
The word is already out.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
What makes you think I haven't already?
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
i dont know
you seem you havent tapped your potential yet
but keep it up you might have something there
and dont let a silent crowd stop you from reaching your dream
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To be fair who knows?
I went to high school with a guy named Hillary, hell I have a brother named Kelly. A friend of mine named his daughter Tyson.
It’s an avatar…Isn’t Natalya Russian for “Little Nikki?”
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Little Nicky is a whole other story!
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Natalya I gotta say the way your write ... type? Is quite enthralling
I really enjoy how you put words together. Don’t worry I’m not hitting on you I’m married. Lol then again that wouldn’t stop some guys but I’m happy so it is enough to stop me. Lol anyways I’m veering away from the reason I started writing this, you are a very good writer and look forward to your next post when ever that may be.
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Dude, you just like that she said "ad hominem" :)
And used “threesome”, “zealous” & “ad hominem” in the same sentence…BAM!
I think what concenting hominems do in the privacy of their own homes is their business.
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by PhrozenPhish on Apr 3, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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lol probably but she has always written good post
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And is always respectful to boot!
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yea I know I'm always not at least she has a lvl head
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Yeah, sometimes you have to step back and take a breath before commenting.
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ive been attempting that lately I have caught myself trying to write some mean things
But I tell myself to just leave it alone.
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Just breath brother. At the end of the day all you have control over is your own behavior.
Dont let the ones that can not come here with respect bother you. Flag it and move on. Matty may not know in all cases that its happening in the first place. There is no way that he can catch everything on here that crosses that line. Besides its his job to deal with it.
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Natalya
You souldn’t worry. People always attack what they don’t understand. In the year that I’ve been reading this blog you defend your positions well. Most should measure their comments a little more wisely when they address you. Not because your a female. People should understand you know what your talking about and you know how to back it up. I know I have respect for what you’ve got say. An most everyone on here does.
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1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS
Hey, I don't understand women...but I don't attack them
Natalya’s logic appears sound to me…I understand where she’s coming from and have to admit although I hope she will be proven wrong (Dez becomes the mainstay of the Dolphin passing game for the next 10 years) I have little to base that on other than …well, hope.
You can observe Dez’s behaviour and conclude he is lazy…that’s not really an attack…Deion Sanders is quoted in ESPN magazine as giving up on him becasue he blew off too many sessions…how’s that for ironic? Is Deion a hater? Is that an attack?
The funny thing about freedom of speach; we often interpret it to mean “I can saw wtf I want,” while not extending the same courtesy to the people we disagree with.
Honestly, and this is sad in a way, the thing that makes me think Dez could work out for us, is he appears so lost and misguided right now that he will probably be easy to control. He hasn’t shown signs of rebellion, just avoidance.
He doesn’t really understand what’s happening to him right now. That much is obvious.
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by PhrozenPhish on Apr 3, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with everything you got to say except for where you begin talking about why you think Dez can work for us.
Other than that Rec’d. I hate how people take freedom of speech as a way to just say what they want and demean what the other person is saying just because they don’t agree.
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I agree with everything you got to say except for where you begin talking about why you think Dez can work for us.
It’s not like I’m betting the mortage on it.
I’m really trying to find something to pin my “hope” to. It’s thin…no question.
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by PhrozenPhish on Apr 3, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
no thats cool bro to each his own hence why I agreed with the first part
I’m really trying to find something to pin my "hope" to. It’s thin…no question
I’m pinning my hope on Spiller.
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Spiller!
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Where I'm at with this thing...
be it about Spiller or Dez Bryant or any other player I’m not so keen on drafting is quite pragmatic actually.
If the dolphins opt to select one of these aforementioned players then I’d be the first to genuinely and sincerely hope they succeed, even if that guy is Dez Bryant. It is not even a question as to what takes priority and that is the success of the team, my team, the dolpins, as opposed to being seen as ‘right’ in some small-time argument with another reader/poster here.
So by all means, let’s debate the merits of the candidates, preferably like semi-mature adults, but once the choice is made come draft day, then I’ll be supporting whomever we select.
by Natalya on Apr 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
well said
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Here! Here! As fans should.
Unless, apparently, the pick in question is Ted Ginn.
I mentioned it somewhere else but so far the trifecta has an ungodly success rate over two drafts…16 of the 18 players selected are still on the roster. By comparison, only three remain from the 2007 draft
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Well said Nat!
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My comment wasn't dirrected at your comments PhrozenPhish.
I see people on here attack others all the time and Natalya can defend herself. The line gets crossed when someone is called a not so flattering name. You’ve been a member here long enough to know that some people don’t come around anymore. I don’t want to see others leave. Freedom of Speech is something I wore a uniform to defend for over 20yrs. So I’ve seen the sacrafice that has been given by so few for so many.
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2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS
I know that, and sorry if it looks that way on the post
I was using your comment as a springboard because I agree with everything you said and I don’t like it when people get attacked for their opinions. And I’m old school…you can call me a bitch and it’ll slide off…but I get uncomfortable when people use that word towards women.
I was just trying to lighten the tone a little with the “not understanding women”…in retrospect the word “attack” in the same sentence as “women” might have derailled that.
I’m actually Canadian, but thank you for your service in the name of freedom. Rest assured like most Canadians I see myself as a peace-keeper and will also try to conduct myself in that spirit here.
I really haven’t been around here all that long…you’re just getting tied of me already. (grin).
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and i would like to add that i was not aware that natayla was a girl
nor did i directly call her a bitch .. like you i also have respect for females dont get it twisted
Momma Said Knock You Out
Not saying you did Deuce
just a statement of my old school principals.
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problem is I come twisted
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This Kootchenberg isn't big enough for the both of us.
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There's no fault to be had.
Honestly with the amount of activity you generate on this site I’m amazed you have time to process half of this stuff….are there like three of you?
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Natalya is right tho
You should be Dez’s agent… I’m sure you’d do a better job than the people he has now.
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Yeah, honoestly I knew it was over before it started...
Natalya is one of the smartest and most well-written members of The Phinsider, imho.
I find myself thinking of Family Guy when we talk about Marshal V Bryant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7HmAPsCj-g
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
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Meh
We know Marshall can play, and that’s he a )*&^-head.
We don’t know if Dez can play in the big-leagues, and we don’t know where his head is at.
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Talent is all he has going for him
and talent doesn’t get you by in the NFL. He has horrible work ethic, and he’s been described too many times as unmotivated. I don’t care if he’s the greatest athlete to step foot on this planet, if he doesn’t want to work hard, he won’t be successful. And from everything I’ve seen/heard about him, he doesn’t want to work hard.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
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by texascowpunk on Apr 2, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, his NFL talent is a mystery.
He may have been good in college, but again, as history has shown repeatedly.
The success at one level does not equate to the success at the next level.
If we draft him, we all hope he does…. but, even you have to admit, its a crap shoot.
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I laugh every time I watch that
Then I cry when I think of the 15 years of project-WRs we’ve taken.
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I'm still waiting for Yatil Green to get out of training camp. :(
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worse than a crapshoot
the bust rate of WR’s is pretty high compared to other positions in the top 15, and Bryant doesn’t exactly give me hope that he can go against those odds. Most of the guys that were busts had superior talent (in fact, I believe most of them were more talented than our friend Dez here) and busted because of silly things like work ethic, attitude, motivation, or other problems with their character. Charles Rogers was a ridiculous athlete, Larry Fitzgerald with Randy Moss speed, but it didn’t work out. Talent isn’t everything, and there’s a long line of talented yet unsuccessful WR’s that prove that.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it may come down to today and yesterday
on who the #12 pick is. I’d say that ET and DB are frontrunners. And according to most sources ET interviews very well, and Dez- not so much.
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by a good margin actually
DT is greater than QB as well lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Work Ethic.
How they performed on their 100% athlete favorable scripted Pro Day.
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Pro days shows your work ethic....
I’m glad you brought up Bradford….
Because despite coming off a shoulder injury….. he worked hard to make himself look fantastic at his Pro Day…. because that is what they are for.
Dez, instead, had 6 months to prepare…..and made sure he looked like crap.
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exactly
If Bradford fails, it won’t be because he doesn’t work hard. If Bryant fails, it will be because he doesn’t work hard, and if h doesn’t work hard, it’s almost certain that he’ll fail.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 2, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
sam bradford look great but he could just as easily be ryan leaf
Let’s hope not:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1773404/ryan_leaf_arrested_on_drug_charges.html
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You know what I hate the most about some kids...
…the ones that think they can make it on talent alone. Do they not realize they need to work to be a pro. All these football players in college have talent it takes extra work to go pro it takes that extra effort to make it. So just because Dez has “talent” does not mean he is gonna be a good pro and that goes for any of the kids coming out of college, football, basketball or baseball and yes including Spiller and any other of our favorite college guys coming out now.
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IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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Tony Sporano's favourite phrase these days is: Due Diligence.
That’s what they done did with Dez.
If they pick him or don’t pick him it will now be (assuming he showed up) an informed decision.
Dez has generated a lot of passion here but we’re not really dealing with a lot of hard info. It’s good that the people who sign the cheques will have some.
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I certainly wouldnt mind us drafting him
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Here comes an essay Duece:)..All sensible FOs can do is weigh the pros and cons
,hope they’re right and that all ends well,sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t.
Al Davis didn’t care that JaMarcus Russell was lazy in College,only looked at his ability and it bit him in the ass,as is standard for Davis,and MIllen always seemed to look over poor work ethic and only saw talent and potential ability and it bit him as well..I did mention sensible though right?
Concerning Dez Bryant,I think he possesses more talent than most on this site do and if not for his issues would be a Top 5 pick IMO but he faces an uphill battle that will be VERY difficult for him to overcome but I hope he does for his own well being.
When his HS Coach says "I’ve taken him to probably six or seven different places he called home. It wasn’t an ideal family situation. He went from trailer to trailer and house to house." I see a high probability that ANYONE from that background would be undisciplined, very unorganized, etc.etc..
I doubt very seriously that he was sitting on the couch in his Dorm refusing to put down the XBox controller and then suddenly realize he had 36 minutes before gametime but I can see someone with his lack of grounding and focus taking his favorite cleats home from the locker room, to polish them or 10 other reasons, and then misplacing them and not being able to find them and as far as giving up on his bench and some routes,he may have had explosive diarrhea for all I know but all of that will be reseached by the FO.
He’s definetly not lazy on the field and I think it’s because he has structure and clearly knows what is expected of him there so he thrives but when the game is over his unstable past and all the baggage that comes with it takes over but I don’t think he’s lazy or a bad person I just think he’s as lacksidazical,absent minded and unfocused as it gets.
What he will do with fists full of cash is anyones guess..he might be lounging by the pool 10 minutes before kickoff with his buddies who just want a free ride until it runs out or he might realize that he finally has a chance to really do something with his life and the fear of losing that opportunity motivate him to improve his life skills and surround himself with better people,I hope the latter for him as a person and definetly if our FO chooses him.
by firedanhenningnow on Apr 2, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Like I said in the other post
Wherever he goes, he’s gonna some good structure, and some good support.
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nice
but the jamarcus russell comparison was a bit much
Jamarcus is one lazy son of a bitch
people question dez’s work ethic while ive seen him work out..he has been working at a training facility in florida to better himself and get in shape jamarcus russell doesnt even know what training is
Dez Bryant is the truth F@#$ what you heard
Part of his problem is he ended ujp at the half-way house of the NFL.
Hard to train when you’re dodging flying assistant coaches.
If Jamarcus Russell went to the Vikings or the Seahawks …to pick two teams out of mid-air …he might be a rock-hard throwing machine.
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To throw another curve at this...
NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks suggests Denver will take Dez at 11 to replace the wideout he expects them to trade – Brandon Marshall.
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Then its not an issue for us.
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javon walker?
he said he’ll play for the league minimum next year and hed be a big help if we dont draft dez bryant
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