Dolphins re-sign Jason Ferguson
He has started 128 games and has 387 tackles & 21.5 sacks.
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IMO, a very odd move
since he’s been suspended.
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i dont like this move
…i really dont like it at all….
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because I tend to think it’s a solid insurance move. It allows us to not reach in the draft because we aren’t desperate for a NT, and it offers us a Plan B if we do take a guy in the draft and he doesn’t work out, or if there are injuries along the front and we need to add depth mid-season. I don’t think he’ll just immediately be reinserted as the starter in Week 9, but it gives us some freedom with that position in case we can’t get our guy in the draft or whatever..
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I am completely lost when it comes to the decesions this so called great regime is making….we sign an old DT who will not be able to contribute until week 9…who cares how cheap he came….then we dont even make an attempt (so far) to upgrade out WR position…we cut wilson without having a replacement…that just created another hole…things better turn around quick this off-season or this will be a long season
Wilson sucked
you could say that was addition by subtraction. Obviously they weren’t giving him a second chance no matter who replaces him.
We haven’t even made it to the draft, so I don’t get the impatience with the WR position.
And what exactly is the problem with the Ferguson deal? He started and played well last season, and with him coming back in week 9, he’ll be fresh for a playoff push if we are in that position, as opposed to wearing down when we need him most.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
pretty much what i said
but you hit the post button faster lol
lol we are on the same page here
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
i think u arent really looking at the fact that
we resigned a decent NT who can at the very least provide a bit of mentoring to the young guys, resign a future HoF (maybe a strech?) quarterback as a mentor to our young guy, fill a gaping hole with arguably the best free agent OLB and cut, in the oppinion of most fans, an AUFUL free saftey
don't worry bout it dude
I never do
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
worry my friend!
ppl blast me 4 less than that ; )
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don't forget adding "another " backup QB..
I’m totally happy they decided to sign a 3rd backup QB while Boldin was being traded for a decent package.
Afterall, we needed Pennington more than Boldin. I mean right? A 3rd string QB is far more important and does more for a team than a elite WR making plays on the field……
NOT.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
let it go man lol
the CP signing was good too
chill out, have some beer and support our management
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
CP 10
was arguably one of the best moves for us thus far in the offseason, he was cheap and is gonna provide something that noone else could for henne
he's not cheap for a 3rd stringer
not by a long shot..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
granted
but for what i think he provides its worth it?
What he he providing?
Notes and words of encouragement for TT and Henne?
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
he isn’t bringing much to the table IMO. Henne doesn’t need a mentor anymore, he’s a big boy, and you don’t want your Franchise QB still in “needs a mentor” mode.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
in the words of henne
“Whatever happens, happens. I learned so much from him. If he’s with us, I’ll learn even more. It’s a great opportunity if he comes back” – i think coming from your QB of the future thats reason enough right there
it's called lip service
you don’t blast a guy that’s about to be a teammate
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
well said
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
When Henne said that he had no idea if CP10 would resign or not.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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ok..
you don’t blast a “potential” teammate, since most people figured he would be back here..
and I’ll bet Henne isn’t too pleased with that “Starters” bonus Pennington got in his contract. If you don’t think Pennington is trying to start, you’re kidding yourself. That’s $2.75mil in his pocket if he wins the job, you better believe he’s going after it. Last thing we need is controversy with a young QB
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Shh Nicky
this QB controversy we keep talking about is just garbage ask Matty
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah...
forgot.. Bringing in the “savior” to be a backup won’t cause any problems with a young QB who will struggle at times… no chance of an issue, Pennington is too much of a class act and a stand up guy right?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see how people can't see that
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
because parcells met with CP10 and together...
they agreed
It was CPs idea to begin with to come back here as a backup
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
then tell me..
WHY he wanted the “starter bonus” thrown in the contract???
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'm listening too
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
because he wasnt able to get the no-trade clause
he wants to keep his family here, so he wants some incentives to stay here as well
it doesnt by any means say he is not 100% full committed in making this team better in anyway he can; no matter whether he starts or not
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think it says he's 100% committed to trying to be the starter
If he was 100% team and “mentoring Henne,” he would’ve just signed a normal backup QB contract and been happy.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
And I think you are right
he wants to keep his family here, so he wants some incentives to stay here as well
The man is a millionare. Hell he is making 2.5 this year. I think he can afford to keep his family here if he wanted to.
Thats a total BS response. Starter bonus money has everything to do with Him (and wanting to play) and nothing to do with his family, please.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
nah I think its because of the no trade clause he didn't get
Pennington realistically needs to give time to recover from his shoulder. His career is better off if he takes an off year. If the Phins do trade him he shouldn’t have to start without the money.
CP
is not a god. He is not this piicture perfect guy everyone on here puts him out to be. The man wants to play. DOn’t be naive.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
oh well then there goes our season
this one decision will make us 2-14 next season and we will be worse than detroit, in fact we will lose to them during the season
all because we signed CP10
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
now you're gonna go and exaggerate everything.
and somehow find a scenario that hasn’t been brought up at all.. nice..
bottom line is this, if Henne struggles at all, multi-pick game, whatever, players may begin to question him and look to CP as the real leader of the team.. That is a Problem.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
again tho we are throwing out these scenarios...
in the case that Henne struggles
So we are talking about Henne struggling in the 2010 season on March 9th??
How about letting him take a snap before you question his abilities at all
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
So what you are saying is
that our 2nd year QB with only 2/3 WRs is not gonna struggle at anytime during the season?
I just want to be sure thats what you are saying.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
never said he wouldnt
but you guys are talking like its a guarantee that he will struggle and that when he does it is a guarantee that the CP signing will cause issues
Its March 9th, lets see how this all plays out first before we jump down their throats for re-signing CP. For all we know, Henne goes down to injury and we are all thanking god that we still have CP on our team
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Are you suggesting Pennington is the better starter?
Because I don’t see any CP10 advocates calling for him to start.
Im saying that you never know in the NFL
for all we know Henne and Thigpen get hurt and we have to go down to our #3 QB
Now be honest would you rather have CP10 or White as your 3rd string QB?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
He's going into his 2nd season as starter
both Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco struggled compared to their rookie campaigns. Most, if not all, QB’s struggle early in their careers. I am not talking about him sucking horribly for a long stretch, I’m talking about him not starting the season on fire. Say, a 3 INT game, or a close loss in which he had a chance to bring us to victory and failed, something along those lines. I think it’s almost guaranteed he will struggle at some point, especially if we don’t drastically improve our WR corps.. If he doesn’t struggle at all, than none of this matters because it means he’s a true franchise QB for the forseeable future
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
yup
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ok so you would rather have
Thiggy as our 2nd and Pat White as our 3rd QB?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather not have Pennington
I’d rather have Thigpen as our 2 yes, because he has potential to be a good #2 for a long time.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
another well said
you are rocking tonight Nicky
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
lol I'm feelin it
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Thiggy is our #2 either way lol
so you would rather have Pat White as our #3 and not CP10?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Pat has potential to develop, Pennington has potential to not be able to throw the football anymore.
Like I said, I’d rather not have Pennington. If we are worried about going 3 deep at the QB position, there’s a problem.
Who’s the Colts 3rd stringer? Or the Saints? Or the Chargers? Cowboys? Giants? You should never be introduced to the 3rd stringer, because it means something has gone horribly wrong with your starter, and you are usually fucked either way
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Of course 3rd stringers matter
When we are talking about Pennington the Great. You don’t know?
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah
I keeps forgetting
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
because of reasons discussed
I wouldn’t want CP to be our # anything.
I thought Nicky and I were clear on that?
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
lol so did I
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
My only point is with how injuries happen..
if we ever had to go to our 3rd string QB, would you rather have White or CP10 in there?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
it wouldn't matter
We would be in trouble. Pennington just had ANOTHER surgery on his throwing shoulder, which was probably the weakest in the league already. I know the term “noodle-arm” gets people pissed, but do you really think he can be effective anymore?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Has Pat White ever been effective?
It’s becoming more and more obvious that the front office doesn’t want White playing quarterback.
Got dysentery and died while on the Vincent Jackson Bandwagon.
how's that?
the last game we saw, he came in ahead of Thigpen as the backup…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
the dude played bits of his 1st year a QR
Henne played NONE. You can’t judge a player at the QB position while taking him in and out of games during his 1st year. They know that, you should too.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
well said
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
It's always been questionable at best if Pat White would be an NFL-level quarterback.
Even when they did let Pat get into games it was never as a full-fledged quarterback. He attempted a total of five passes on the year in 13 different games.
Got dysentery and died while on the Vincent Jackson Bandwagon.
And?
He did really come in at crucial times of the game sometimes
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
And did you enjoy that?
I hated seeing him on the field. I wanted to kick my TV over when he came in for that 2-pt conversion against Tennessee (fortunately Ricky went airborne and took it in).
Ultimately, there can be no greater indictment of Pat White as a quarterback for the Miami Dolphins than the re-signing of Pennington. The only thing that saves him from trying to find some niche role would be to trade Thigpen, which wouldn’t be a good idea at all.
Got dysentery and died while on the Vincent Jackson Bandwagon.
I don't think Pennington signing
has anything to do with White’s performance last year. CP will iether start or be 3rd string TT is the backup. Its not like its CP and White viaing for the backup positiion.
Third string qbs hardly get mentioned and don’t mean crap except when you are in Miami and his name is CP. Then its everything.
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Pennington isn't going to start, and you know that.
Bill Parcells isn’t an idiot. Jeff Ireland isn’t an idiot. Tony Sparano isn’t an idiot. They aren’t orchestrating some conspiracy to keep Pennington in the starting role.
And because they’re not idiots, they’re not going to waste a roster spot on four quarterbacks, which means Pat White is out of luck. I highly doubt they’ll make this decision arbitrarily, so it probably has something to do with last year, including the game action we all see and the countless, behind-the-scenes work no one gets a whiff of.
Got dysentery and died while on the Vincent Jackson Bandwagon.
That happens to me alot
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
If we pull Henne
for Pennington for performance wejust put ourselves back 4/5 yrs, quote me on that
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'll not only quote you
I’ll agree
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Do you actually believe that would ever happen?
Got dysentery and died while on the Vincent Jackson Bandwagon.
I believe that we consulted Henne b4 we signed CP
Chad has already let it be known in public that he wanted CP back 4 competition and as a mentor. You gotta believe that the management wouldnt sign CP if Henne wasnt okay with this
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 9, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
also his contract still allows us to trade him if needed
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
U telling me you would want
Pennington over Boldin?
A 3rd stringer holding a clipboard over a Elite WR making play?
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
no but
the two moves were all but completely unrelated. if the office wanted AQ they would have gotten him regardless of cp10
no but Boldin would've done much more for Henne
than Pennington will
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Not really
I am completely lost when it comes to the decesions this so called great regime is making
This is part of the post I was repsonding to. I don’t like/understand why they would give 2.5 mil to a 3rd string QB and not go after a “need” of a elite WR at a fair price.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
You have no proof that one had anything to do with the other.....
Very likely signing Pennington had nothing to do with Boldin
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
It was the decisions
to sign another backup QB and not trading for a elite WR see the post I repsonded to please.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
NEVER-)
Its not that we sign Pennington. Its that we could’ve gotten Boldin and a 5th. That would’ve solved our WR problems and we would still have our 1st 2 picks to address other needs with the team.
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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Money was the reason we didnt go after Boldin
Seriously Neo its done. Boldin is in Baltimore 4 good.. If you want a wr then please start talking about some other options that you think the Phins should take
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 9, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Really? I heard we were offering Rolle 4/5 yrs at 6 per. Boldin signed for 4 year 7 per. You gonna tell me it was money? Well I’m gonna tell you I don’t believe that.
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If you want a wr then please start talking about some other options that you think the Phins should take
Thats just it. There isn’t/wasn’t any other options unless you take Bryant at 12
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Good move
If whoever we attempt to plug in or even if we have to run 4-3 at least we’ll have an option mid-season.
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There are Smith guys and Vontae guys, I got V.D.
Say no to Boldin, love'm just not in Miami
I mean if who we attempt to plug in doesnt work out
We have a stop gap till midseason. We might resort to 4-3
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i said this earlier
good move. like it or not if we are in the playoffs next year, which is where we want to be then we want ferg on the team. he will be FRESH!! hes still an asset to this team.
even if we draft a wide receiver in the draft…we all know it takes around 3 to 4 years for wr to develope in this league..we need to get an establish player now…thats the position that needs a veteran mentor..considering how young we are at the position
WR's don't need mentors
how many young guys step in and perform with no vet on the squad? You just need to find a good player.
I agree that we should get an established WR like Marshall, but I don’t see it happening.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I like him re-signing
we did it cuz he is a good player, and once he comes back; we have the option of playing him
I do want to know what the details of the contract are, but his signing is just insurance at NT.
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why are you in favor of this signing..this is similar to an off field problem…he hurt his team when he decided to take performing enchancing drugs….this is no different than brandon marshalls behavior
I don't think so
we knew about his suspension before re-signing him. If it was an issue, we wouldn’t have signed him. It’s not like we were counting on him, and then mid-season he gets bumped. We are well aware of the situation 5 months before the season…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
So we cut Dotson..
big deal. Or you put him on the PUP list for the firs 7 weeks, and he doesn’t take a roster spot.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
fergie (probably) took steroids to recover from his injury
he is 32?
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by Souwantmyname on Mar 9, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Im sure he's taking drugs for injury
Dont concider him a problem
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you're not hearing me bro
it’s not a problem because we ALREADY KNOW he won’t be on the field… like I said, we aren’t counting on him for the first 8, so it’s not hurting us.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
taking drugs cause he is old and trying to get an advantage—he hurt his team…dont uphold this guy…similar to other players that do stupid things
he didn't have a team until today
he was a FA… he got hit with a suspension.. then we signed him.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
we all want the same thing..dont get me wrong…we want to be able to put a competitive team on the field..and thats the problem with this signing…he wont be on the field
yes he will
for the final 8 games.. healthy and fresh, when we need depth in the trenches and those rookie legs are starting to go dead. This is absolutely no different than signing a guy halfway through the season, except now we KNOW that we are getting him
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
i like the idea of him being fresh
im just not sure its worth him being out the first half of the season
better than him being out the last half
I don’t understand how it’s any different than signing a guy halfway through the season.. And with NT’s getting scooped up left and right, I like the idea of being able to count on Ferguson in week 9 if our draft pick doesn’t work out, or hits that rookie wal.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
What would you have done?
Thegr8one,
I think you’re stuck on the fact they caught him with a banned drug and he’s been suspended for 8 games. Get past it. Move on.
Now look at our situation again. We have Paul Solia as a starting NT who can’t cut it, not in a 3-4 defense where we need a beast.
We have a draft coming up but don’t expect us to get either of the two best NT’s with our 12th pick. When we do draft a NT it’ll take time to groom him into a starter.
So who’s the best available free agent NT out there? Guess what.. it’s Ferguson by a long shot. Yes at his age. Yes even if he’s going to miss the first 8 games.
I bet we got a heavy discount since he’s missing so many games, but again who cares? It’s an uncapped year. The only way this hurts us is that we’re burning up a roster spot for 8 games.. hmm .. worth it IMO.
by D X on Mar 9, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
If we signed Fergie...then whats the problem with marshall
we should go after Marshall…why arent we talking bout Fergie’s character
where's the character concern?
we don’t have a clue what the drug was… it could’ve been a weight-loss product like StarCaps.. it could’ve been to help him get over the injury, who knows. How is that a character issue? And if that’s an issue, how is ANYTHING that our guys do not an issue? Will Allen publicly stated he’ll start, how is that not a character concern since he’s saying he’s better than our rookies? Davone Bess got in trouble in high school.. a lot. Crowder talks a whole lot. JT took offseason workouts off to do a dance competition… If an unknown substance is a character concern, all of that is a character concern.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
whatecer he was taking…it is still ultimately his responsibility to find out what he is putting in his body…you cant sugar coat this…if this had of been joey porter or gebril wilson..we would be all over this in a negative way..fergie does not get a pass….I know parcells is a loyal kind of guy..but this is to say the least a very questionable move
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Well this was werid
but if they are going to sign this Jason they NEED to sign JT. I’m very hopefully that he’ll come back this year : (
Time to start questioning Parcells...or whoever is in charge
First….Gebril Wilson
Second….Pat White
Third….Patrick Turner
Fourth…Bringing Fergie back
Patrick Turner is still developing
Bringing Fergie back is a good move for the 2nd half of next season
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
well said
He’s hit on far more FA’s and draft picks than missed, including nailing 3 out of his first 4 in year 1 and 2 out of his first 3 (and 3 of 5) in year 2. The first round is 50/50, he’s hit 2 of 2. The 2nd round is about 30-40%, he’s hit 2 of 4 (not counting Merling, who his a solid contributor, that would make it 3 of 4). The 3rd is right around 30% success rate, he’s 1 of 2. He’s doing GREAT in the draft, and that’s before I mention the late rounders that are contributing in a big way.
Everybody likes to pick on the big name FA’s that we missed on, most notably Gerbil and Ernest, but guys like Justin Smiley, Jake Grove, Randy Starks, Jason Taylor, Charlie Anderson, Cam Wake, not to mention the trades for Ferguson, Fasano, Tony McDaniel.. he’s completely retooled our roster in 2 years, and we’re going into year 3 talking about making a playoff push with 1 or 2 moves…
You go ahead and question him, I’ll say that he’s been more successful the past 2 years than most if not all GM’s in the league.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
It's funny how everyone forgets how many guys we have that are major contributors
that were FA’s or draft picks in the last 2 years. All they see is Ted Ginn, Gerbil, and guys like that. I’ll be the first to admit he’s made some bad moves, but none of them has crippled us, or really even set us back at all..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
The Pat White pick set us back some.. For instance if we take Paul Kruger and groom him under Matt Roth for a season then we’d have the perfect OLB opposite Wake. Now we have to draft one either too high or get lucky with one falling. I’m saying this because when our pick came that’s who I wanted us to take
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by Souwantmyname on Mar 9, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Also
can you give him a pass on the 3rd round turner, considering he found Hartline in the 4th
its easy to talk about what he did wrong, how about things that went right
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
see now you are changing the focus tho
from Parcells drafted Turner he is a bust to……we dont have Marshall lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
lol we could sit here all day and criticize moves he DIDN'T make
but this isn’t Madden, you can’t just build an all-star team because you want to.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
he took us from 1-15 to the playoffs in 1 season
then to the brink of the playoffs with the toughest NFL schedule
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 9, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
What has he done lately....
drafted 2 starting CB’s.. Drafted a solid WR prospect and a big target that is developing.. He signed one of the top ILB’s in the league… He cut bait with shitty players..
nope.. nothing there…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
That's what Parcells does. He builds up the roster and turns a shitty team into a respectable one.
He has done it everywhere he has gone. Now here’s the “but”: He doesn’t build championship teams. He fails to take them to the next level. A Parcell’s run team hasn’t won a playoff game, let alone a championship, in over a decade. That’s forever in the NFL.
IMO, the reason why he can’t turn a good team into a championship team is that he doesn’t acquire offensive playmakers. And I don’t think he has any interest in getting those types of players again this year. He won’t draft Spiller or Bryant. He didn’t make a play for Boldin. That’s just who he is.
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If this had of been our previous regime…we would be calling for their heads…parcells does not get a pass…turner developing…he was a third round pick and could not get on the field
Our previous regimes missed on first rounders
Parcells hasn’t missed in round 1 yet.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
third round picks are suppose to contribute in some form or fashion…this kid could not even dress out
3rd round picks stick less than a 3rd of the time
They aren’t “supposed” to contribute.. They are actually are “supposed” to suck, since 2/3rds of them usually do.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
which is another reason Balt got Quan for nothing really
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by Souwantmyname on Mar 9, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Well, waddaya know....
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by Souwantmyname on Mar 9, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
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