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Dan Williams or Dez Bryant

If Dan Williams and Dez Bryant were both on the board at pik 12, who would u choose? (assuming eric berry is off the board)

Dan Williams- DT/NT. 6 "3". 327 lbs. 40-yard dash: 5.17. Bench Press: 27. Broad Jump. 8'00

Dez Bryant- WR. 6 "2". 225 lbs. did not attend combine.

Star-divide

My Case for Dan Williams:  Now that we have gotten a true inside linebacker in Karlos Dansby, we should most definitely go after a wide out in the first round. Right? Wrong.  The Dolphins play the 3-4 defense, and to find a true dominant force at the nose tackle position in the 3-4 is very hard.  Jason Ferguson is aging and is 35.  He also has receieved a suspension for first 8 games of the 2010-11 season.  So, this would mean we would have to start Paul Soliai in those games, and who knows if Ferguson even comes back.  If you watch the games where Ferguson was out, Soliai may have shined at some points, but not very often.  The solution: Dan Williams.  He is an every down player, and can plug up the holes and stop the run, something our defense lacked with Ferg's absence.  He can go after the qb.  I would say that he is the top nose tackle in this draft (yeah, i am not to fond of "Mount Cody").  If we draft Williams, we will have our franchise guy in the middle of our defense for years.  The nose tackle is the anchor of a 3-4 defense.  He is the most important part of the defense.  If we draft Williams, he may draw some double teams.  This would cause our beloved Randy Starks, coming off a great year, to get loose and dismantle the QB.  If a nose tackle can't draw double teams and can't get to the QB, no pass rush can develop in a 3-4.  That's when it seems like Tom Brady has all the time in the pocket to somehow manage to always get the ball to Welker or Moss.  What is most likely to happen is that with the 11th pick the Broncos will take either Dez Bryant or Dan Williams.  Here is a highlight video of Dan William's 09-10 season:

via RockyTopTalk

 Sidenote: I just heard that Ferguson resigned with the Dolphins.  After his suspension. he could help out and mentor Mr. Williams for the last 8 weeks of the season, while playing a bit.

My Case for Dez Bryant:

Now that we have gotten a true inside linebacker in Karlos Dansby, we should most definitely go after a wide out in the first round. Right? HELL YEAH! This league has become a passing league, and the Colts-Jets AFC championship game basically showed everyone that it is: The Colts' passing game beat the Jets' running game.  Now the dolphins don't really have a downfield physical threat who can catch a jumpball.  Who knows when Ted Ginn will break out.  I think of it this way: Look at the Saints.  By having a 6 "4" physical guy like Marques Colston, he draws a lot of attention.  This lets all the other guys like henderson and meachem get open downfield for those deep balls.  Now I'm not comparing Dez to Marques Colston.  I think of him as a Larry Fitzgerald type receiver: a guy who is double-covered and still goes up there and makes the catch.  He's a real red-zone threat; a guy that just goes up there and plucks the ball out of the sky.  None of our receivers can do this.  With a guy like Bryant, we could see the real Davone Bess next year.  And who knows how great of a year Henne could have.  With a Dez Bryant, the Dolphins could possibly have one of the most high powered offenses next year: Ronnie in the backfield, Dez as the #1 with great complimentary guys like Bess and Hartline and Camarillo and... well Ginn as the speedster.  And if we do get Dez, could Ginn become a Desean Jackson type receiver if he gets open enough? just a thought... And also a solidified offensive to protect the QB and maybe get a pass catching tight end in one of those later rounds.  With Dez, our offense would turn those boring yet fun to watch opposing defenses getting tired drives 16-play 10 min drives into 6-play 3 min drives where the opposing defense looks dumbfounded.  Scoring a lot also gives the defense an easier job, knowing they are up by more points.  Here is a highlight video of Bryant's 08-09 season:

 

via clintdougspaul

So hear are my two sides for offense and defense.  Discuss your thoughts below.

Poll
So, with the 12th pick of the draft, the Miami Dolphins select...
Dez Bryant, WR, OSU
58 votes
Dan Williams, NT, TENNESSEE
66 votes
Earl Thomas, FS, TEXAS
25 votes
Sergio Kindle, OLB, TEXAS
10 votes
Oh wat the hell, let's draft C.J. Spiller, RB, CLEMSON
16 votes

175 votes | Poll has closed

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You cannot compare...

…a WR to a NT.

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by TheFinsFan on Mar 9, 2010 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

im not

its a question of what’s a bigger priority, the nose tackle position or wide out position

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by flsportsfan on Mar 9, 2010 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

the nt all the way mor of a priority we do have sum wr. that can only get better!

Plus does anyone remember what happened last year when at #12 49er’s took wr crabtree & he held out for more than hafe the season. it wasent till everyone was giveing him flack did he sign & itr was for the same thing that was on the table befor the year started. as far as i’m concerned he’s a peace of garbage for makeing his team go throgh a very bad season & almost get his QB. killed.
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by wild zion beaver on Mar 10, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Dez Bryant

I believe dez has the same agent as Crabtree does. A holdout wouldn’t suprise me with this kid. If we are going for Dez with our #12 pick just trade for Marshall and be done with it. Give him a contract with heavy stips about conduct and performance.

by FinFanFromCA on Mar 11, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Free Safety (Earl Thomas) for now...

but I’m warming up to Dan Williams.
Some of the scouting reports I read implied he was only a run stuffer and his motor ran hot and cold.

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston DE; 3rd: Emmanuel Sanders WR; 4th: Arthur Jones NT; 6A: Kade Weston NT; 6B:Colin Peek TE; 6C Adrian Tracy OLB; 7A: Thomas Austin G/C; 7B: Scott Long WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 9, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

that's Terrance Cody

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I'm not confusing Dan Williams with Terrence Cody

I am reading reports on Dan Williams…he did show marked improvement under Kiffin’s pro-style coaching, but still has issues with inconsistency

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston DE; 3rd: Emmanuel Sanders WR; 4th: Arthur Jones NT; 6A: Kade Weston NT; 6B:Colin Peek TE; 6C Adrian Tracy OLB; 7A: Thomas Austin G/C; 7B: Scott Long WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yes but that description fits cody more

watch film on williams, he has a very attractive skill set of power and speed at NT but I honestly thought he looked a little undersized to take on double teams as a 3-4 NT. Dez Bryant is too talented to pass up at 12. if he’s off the board, I say thomas or williams

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by KaliforniaPhinFan on Mar 10, 2010 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

nose tackles are purley run stuffers and

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by Deuce Black on Mar 9, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Ill take Eal Thomas only if we do not get FS in FA if we do

im ok with D.Williamd and in the second Jerry Hughes. Taht would be awesome

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

that wud be nice

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by flsportsfan on Mar 9, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

thank you boys for throwin in that fricassee. i'm a man of large appetite and even with lunch under my belt i was feelin a mite peckish

made me lulz

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

that guy knew how to accessorize

matching eye-patch and blazer, yowza!


“I’m gonna propose you a proposition!”

Goodman’s best role has to be Walter Sobchak though.


“I told that kraut a f*****g thousand times I don’t roll on shabbas! "

Oh lordy, I’m going to have to watch that tonight.

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

it is hysterical to me

some people don’t get it. i think you either have to have smoked weed or hung out with people who smoked weed for it to be really funny. ;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

u think a bit of gon'ja will help?

oya this is the shit, Ohya like what were we doing mann

by wild zion beaver on Mar 10, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

maryjane always enhances the theatrical expirience

but this movie provides the LULz regardless of your state of mind.

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, no doubt.

not sayin it is only funny if yer hi, just sayin it is funnier if you are experienced.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 10, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

have you ever been experienced? well, i have.

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

you may have to pry it away from him

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

we're on the level buddy

i never miss a Hendrix reference lol

you ever seen Rainbow Bridge? triiiiippy

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

for the longest time i thought i had already seen it

and then a couple years ago i watched it and almost shat myself when the Dude was getting mad at the guy for peeing on his rug. started out strong & didn’t disappoint!

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

to me, one of the funniest bits:
The Dude: I dropped off the money exactly as per… look, man, I’ve got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. And, you know, has it ever occurred to you, that, instead of, uh, you know, running around, uh, uh, blaming me, you know, given the nature of all this new shit, you know, I-I-I-I… this could be a-a-a-a lot more, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, complex, I mean, it’s not just, it might not be just such a simple… uh, you know?
The Big Lebowski: What in God’s holy name are you blathering about?

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 10, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahah it just replayed in my head!

this has been keeping me entertained for about 20 minutes

http://thugbot.net/features/lebowski/

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

you won't be disappointed bro

the first time watching it you may need an oxygen mask to circulate the breathing when yer doubled over in fits of laughter

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

haha i'll strap my tv to my car, you bring the dvd player

tailgate & watch Big Lebowski @ Joe Robbie

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Love that movie too!

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by texascowpunk on Mar 10, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you shoulda been here for the quote-a-thon!

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I always miss the good stuff.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 10, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

it kept me sane @ work today

“You mark that frame an 8, and you’re entering a world of pain.”

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear that it was awful

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by Farorefox on Mar 10, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

you heard the worst ever

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

that whole scene is probably in my top 5 favorite scenes


MARK IT ZERO!

by far my favorite Cohen bros movie. Raising Arizona was pretty good for a movie with Nick Cage in it.

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i never was too big on raising az

it just was just more awkward than funny to me

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 10, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i like the awkward funny, like the old eps of The (American) Office

but i’ve never seen Raising Arizona sober, so i might change my tune if i did lol

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

haha nobody move or the nigger gets it!

isn’t anybody going to help that poor man??

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i just found my dvd book a week ago and that movie was sitting on the front page

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

lol "you're out of your element donny"

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

first of all if dez i there we take him because thats value

dan williams would be a reach for need

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by Deuce Black on Mar 9, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

1st if all......CJ SPILLER

then Dez

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by Neo on Mar 9, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

exactly

although I might take a defensive player over Dez.. maybe JPP, although I think he may be a one-year wonder/workout warrior, if we took him, I would hope the FO did their homework on the kid and have a better-than-likely feeling he’ll be good.

Might take Dan Williams over Dez..

I just don’t really like Dez

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Spiller.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Mar 9, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a given lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 9, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Dez isnt even

a consideration

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by Blaze453 on Mar 9, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

DEZ @ 12

Dez would create chaos for opposing defenses with the other key players we have on offense. I also agree on BIG DAN @ 12, but maybe cam thomas could fall to us in the 2nd round. We also need FA Darren Sharper to sign.

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by devildog 0311 on Mar 9, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

The downside of Dez

i heard that he’s a slacker

ALRITE MIAMI!!!!
draft jimmy graham
draft dan williams (legit nose tackles r hard to find)
slowing hopping aboard the sign OJ atogwe bandwagon

by flsportsfan on Mar 9, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

the upside of dez

i heard that he’s a beast, lol

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by finzrule on Mar 9, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He is a beast and the sky is the limit for this kid

BUT he is also a slacker NOW without millions of dollars in his hands.

It would be like expecting a known slacker with a poor work history to go out and find a physically demanding job after he wins the Powerball Lottery.

Draft picks are risky enough as it is and I would rather trade the #12 for BM than to bank on a double risk if that was an either or scenario.

by firedanhenningnow on Mar 10, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Simple plan

Sign Atogwe from the Rams and then draft as follows:
1) Dez Bryant (this guy is ridiculous)
2) Cam Thomas NT North Carolina (played under a nasty Butch Davis)
3) Scott Norwood OLB/DE South Carolina (pass rushing specialist)
4) Jimmy Graham TE Miami (freak of an athlete and still learning)
3 picks in the 6th look at RB, OG, Safety depth
2 picks in the 7th look at WR, LB depth
All holes addressed, problems solved. (If it were only that easy) This would be my perfect scenario. So to answer the question……Dez Bryant!

by Rumple Pigskin on Mar 9, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i like that offseason

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by finzrule on Mar 9, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt be adverse to this

of course I’d differ, but who wouldn’t?

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by Farorefox on Mar 9, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

or earl thomas, if we dont address the FS position in FA

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by finzrule on Mar 9, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

rumple pigskin

that is a sweet draft

ALRITE MIAMI!!!!
draft jimmy graham
draft dan williams (legit nose tackles r hard to find)
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by flsportsfan on Mar 9, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

i'm going to assum the 3 votes for Spiller are Nicky, Neo/TCP, and myself

And Dan is certainly not the top NT prospect, that’d be Suh by far. Dude is monster


insert [Tom Brady, Mark Snatchface, & (LOL) Trent Edwards] and try to keep the blood from your lap

There’s no chance of landing Suh, so Dan is a suitable option, and i’d def take him over Dez. we’ll be getting Andre soon enough anyways after I have some “negotiations” with Bob McNair…

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by chrislucas on Mar 9, 2010 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

hahaha

yeah andre is sick nasty
i meant to say that where we pick dan wud be the top prospect. no doubt that suh is the top prospect.

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draft dan williams (legit nose tackles r hard to find)
slowing hopping aboard the sign OJ atogwe bandwagon

by flsportsfan on Mar 9, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed. Suh --> Dan Williams --> everyone else --> Mount Flubber

i think that this hunk will be good too

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by chrislucas on Mar 9, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Another option

If Rolando McClain falls to #12, trade down with the Giants to #15 as they are dying to get a MLB after cutting Pierce and possibly pick up an additional 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder. Then it looks like this:
1) Sergio Kindle OLB / Earl Thomas FS
2a) Cam Thomas NT / Nate Allen FS
2b) DeMarius Thomas WR
3) Linval Joseph NT / Torrell Troup NT / Scott Norwood OLB
The rest would stay the same. I think that if we don’t get Dez, D. Thomas from Georgia Tech has to be the man. He is the only other one with a similiar skill set. I don’t see another potential #1 receiver in the draft.

by Rumple Pigskin on Mar 9, 2010 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

i love how....

all these people would choose a saftey over or NT over the top receiver…..i agree with getting Dez bryant to help our offense we can solve the rest of our problems in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round etc….open your eyes people thiers only one piece missing in our offense : A BIG TARGET

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by Los Dolphins305 on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Notsomuch

Dez wn’t get to be a sexy big target till2-3 years later, Then you might be right.
Go Nose, now

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by Tunaflipper on Mar 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh..

and a NT.. coverage linebacker.. FS.. TE.. RG..

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 10, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Bryant has yet to prove he's anything but a lazy bust

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by chrislucas on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I still say we draft McClain who could play on the outside for the time being and move back inside when Crowder is gone.

You can get a developemental rush-linebacker later on the draft (George Selvie, Thaddeus Gibson to name a few). McClain is the best linebacker period, no matter where he’s lined up. I don’t think you can pass up on a game changer and leader of his caliber. I’d go:

1- McClain, ILB/OLB
2- Terrence Cody
3- Demaryius Thomas, WR
4- Jimmy Graham, TE
6(1)- George Selvie, OLB
6(2)- Robert Johnson, FS
6(3)- Mike Williams, WR
7(1)- Javarris James, RB
7(2)- a Punter

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by JP 23 on Mar 10, 2010 12:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ive been thinking about still taking Mcclain at 12

and the more I think about it the more I like it. I think hes got the size and skill set to play SOLB, a bigger need this off season than
WOLB IMO.

1-Mcclain
2-Thomas
3- Allen
4-Pitta
6- OL/WR/DL
7-LB/OL

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by okcdolphinsfan on Mar 10, 2010 5:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

agree

and a nice mock minus the punter

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by Blaze453 on Mar 10, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

this would never happen, but........

trade our 2nd round pick this year and next years 3rd fr B. Marshall!!!! Then trade down with Clevaland and get Eric Berry (if he last that long)!!!… if not, Take Dez anyway and we’ll have Henne throwing to Marshall and Bryant…. (SCARY)!!!!!

by Phins Fan on Mar 10, 2010 4:35 AM EST reply actions  

yeah I totally called it first lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 10, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

so who wins?

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 10, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It all depends.

If we sign or trade or a WR. Then no Dez. If the FO trust Soliai…well there’s still a chance we get a DT.

With the first pick, I’d go OLB, we need a pash rusher bad.

I really like Cam Thomas, could be a second rounder for us.

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by Kdog92 on Mar 10, 2010 6:05 AM EST reply actions  

he will last that long with bilacheat haveing 3 #2nd rd. pick's

even though he did draft 10 DT/NT last year! i’m also not so sure that he goes after NT, i think he will target the safety’s. most likely a QB. in the first round!

by wild zion beaver on Mar 10, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

Ok, I'm convinced

I was already on the draft D. Williams bandwagon. Now I’m good with drafting him with our first pick, be it 12th or if we trade down in the first.

The case being we need an NT that’ll anchor or 3-4 for years to come. Ferg’s been signed but this will be he’s last season with us. I’m cool with Soliai but if he doesn’t have a take over defining season this coming season and if he does we’ll need a backup DT to keep him fresh if not we need a backup plan. The backup plan would be D. Williams.

My reasoning of why the FO resigned Ferg is primarily he would make a great mentor to D. Williams or any NT we draft. And in every interview that Fergs been on he’s always talking about he’s teaching of Soliai. Soliai is turning into a nice NT and I attribute that to Fergs teaching and with Ferg on this team for another season it will pay in major dividends when we get D. Williams!!!

by jesavius on Mar 10, 2010 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

In the first round of the draft you take the best available player

regardless of need. Base your 2-5 round picks on need, and your 6-7 on depth. Also could be a 2-4 and 5-7 split, but in the 1st round ALWAYS take the best available player, regardless of position!

The torch has been passed, and Henne has added fuel to the fire!

by RJ2549 on Mar 10, 2010 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

i disagree with this statement
In the first round of the draft you take the best available player regardless of need.

If the BPA is a QB and you are the Colts, do you take a QB? Probably not.

I completely agree that talent level factors in to the decision and that the decision should not be based solely on positional need. If your greatest needs are NT and S, and the top tier guys at these positions are off the board when you pick, you don’t reach for a guy that is second round talent. Ever. Trade down, or take the best talent available at a position of weakness on your team.

I mean, do you see us taking a LT anytime in the near future with our #1 pick? I don’t.

You also take the guy that has the least amount of risk. WR=huge risk. High bust rate. RB=low risk. Easy to evaluate, and generally able to contribute immediately. If all the top talent at positions of need are off the board when we pick, except for Dez and CJ, even though WR is the bigger need this season, i take CJ.

The only real rule about your first round pick that should be written in concrete is – “Don’t miss!”

IMO

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 10, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Some of the post got cut out...

should have read

In the first round of the draft you take the best available player
Unless you are chin-deep at that position, 1st round pick is selected by talent level regardless of need

However, in your scenario, if the Colts take a QB, he can be traded or groomed to take over. Peyton has 12 years in the league. I feel like he will only be around 3-5 more. He’ll go out on top and not as a QB struggling to make the team.

The torch has been passed, and Henne has added fuel to the fire!

by RJ2549 on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Chirs Carter got screwed, he should definitely be in the HoF

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by Farorefox on Mar 10, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I have trouble believing we could control him

considering the lack of control over Porter and whatnot.

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by Farorefox on Mar 10, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Problem with drafting D. Williams at #12

He’s not that good. He’s one of the most overrated players in the draft. Do we need help at NT? Yes. But, we need more help at OLB, and there are actually hugely talented OLB’s who will be there in the 1st and 2nd. Also, as of now, we need help at FS, and E. Thomas is 10x the player that D. Williams is.

I’d rather focus on the D, but I’d rather draft a dynamic player – D. Bryant – than a player that just fills a need – D. Williams. Drafting D. Williams would be a terrible mistake.

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by sister_ray on Mar 10, 2010 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not convinced that Williams is ANY better than Jeff Owens

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by sister_ray on Mar 10, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

you know he's cool cos he cos he wears his jersey like JWheezy

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by chrislucas on Mar 11, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Completely disagree

Dan Williams overrated? How can you make that assumption? For all intensive purposes, he is the #1 rated 3-4 NT prospect. He commands double blocks that free up linebackers and that is exactly what a 3-4 NT’s job is. NT is the most important position in a 3-4 as shown last year when Fergie went down. We dropped from a Top 10 defense against the run to somewhere around 18. Williams is definitely not the sexy pick but the smartest.

by Rumple Pigskin on Mar 11, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone on you list would be an upgrade.

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by smahtaz on Mar 10, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

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