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What does Brackett's new deal mean for Dansby?

The Colts today re-signed starting middle linebacker Gary Brackett. His deal is a 5 year deal reportedly worth $33 million, with $12 million in guaranteed money. And Adam Schefter just said on ESPN that "other defensive players who are out there will look that this deal as a benchmark."

If Gary Brackett, a very good player himself but not on the level of Karlos Dansby, is getting nearly $7 million per year, how much would the Dolphins have to shell out to Dansby if they want to prevent him from leaving their facility today without a signed contract? Nine million a year is definitely attainable for Karlos. But would the Dolphins do that - especially with the $25 million or so Dansby wants in guaranteed money.

This Dolphins' front office is notoriously "stingy" in that they refuse to over-pay for a player's services. They have a figure in their head and they simply won't go above it. But with teams like the Redskins - and even his former team, the Cardinals - likely waiting for Dansby to leave Miami so that he can make visits to their facilities, can the Dolphins take the risk of setting that figure in their head and not going above it even if it would prevent Dansby from leaving?

We should know more as the day progresses.

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JUST SIGN HIM

Honestly what are they waiting for, if he leaves miami without a contract, he won’t be back. Give him whatever he wants, we’re instantly a better team and like you said before we can use that 12 pick on another gaping hole we have on our defense (FS,NT,OLB)

by cheeks88 on Mar 5, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Damn Lefty, where the hell did that come from...?

Well said.

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I DISAGREE!!! If we don't get a linebacker ASAP that can cover TE's....

We are SCREWED!!!!! All year long, teams were able to have their TE’s run simple 5 yard outs and DOMINATE us with 10 to 15 yard gains…. Only when I consistently saw this, did I realize how bad Akin was..

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Mar 5, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

yes, end of the world, Armageddon, doom and gloom forever… yada yada…. ;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 5, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I said it before, if they didn’t empty their pockets last year on Pace, we won’t do it this year on Dansby, sorry Fin Fans, this is not how this TRIFECTA rolls. The owner himself said so. He is looking for some serious $$$$.

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by Finnatic on Mar 5, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

I've said from the get-go of our Dansby flirtations...

that I think it will take >= Bart Scott money to sign Dansby.

We can say Scott is overrated or overpaid but in general the salaries go up. Moreover, you can bet that Dansby’s agents will say that his client is better than Scott – so why/how would they take less money?

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

true dat

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

NO Way

I will say this……… No way we get Dansby. That’s a Promise

by ecks on Mar 5, 2010 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Also

This franchise dosent spend money,Thats why we will always be a second tier team.

by ecks on Mar 5, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

um the Steelers dont go out and spend tons of money either.....

are they a 2nd tier franchise? I would say no

Also I would say the Trifecta has done a pretty damn good job here in 2 years

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

What the f...

Look, spare me the shit. When Danny boy needed a RB did we get him one…NO!!!!
Team needs a WR.. Do we have on…..NO!!! The Trifecta needs to pull there heads oput of thier ass and star spending some money. Dansby is BMW, Crowder and Torabor are
a Pacer and Yougo

by ecks on Mar 5, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

spare me the overdramatic whoa is me attitude too lol

and I am not wrong, the Steelers do not go out and spend money in free agency. Your outburst doesnt change that fact

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Go be a Steelers fan Then

it seems like you have a crush on them.

by ecks on Mar 5, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow I am about to blow your argument out of the water

Dolphins were 2nd in offseason spending last season

So we don’t spend money how? LOL

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I didnt say we made good signings lol

I was just showing that the argument that we dont go out and spend money completely wrong

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

yes, two different things:

spending money

spending money well…

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I was being facetious...

though the fact we are having big discussions here about Dansby suggests Mc(Crowder) has not exactly been a home run (re)signing either.

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

while true...

We saw what happened to the Dolphins D when Crowder was out the last 3 games, they were terrible

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't think they did bad in re-signing Crowder

you need two guys in there. He is just not a #1 guy.

but overall, I think the criticism has centered around the O-line dollars. But if i had to define the strategy (other than “inside out”, “trenches” stuff), i would say that we over spent to solidify the line, and will then bring cheaper guys along and gradually lower the overall relative cost.

They may do that in other areas, but I don’t think they view the other areas as needing to have the entire group top-notch. So if you get that REALLY solid LB, by himself, he will upgrade the entire unit.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

that is SOOO cute!

but i think it’s a hamster…. ;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

... put it in a plastic bag... lol

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

HA

Not starting any more!

It's 2010 - do the smart thing. Draft Myron Rolle.

by Dolphinole on Mar 5, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

and I am not a Steelers fan, but I do respect them

and again just because I make the argument that the Steelers are as good as they are without spending money, does not mean I should go be a fan of theirs

Its a proven fact that most of the teams that are consistently successful in the NFL, stay that way with building through the draft and not overspending in free agency.

Grow up

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

oh c'mon james...

look at how many lombardi trophies Snyder has brought to washington with his free-wheeling ways

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that was my original point....

We dont need to spend money to be a successful franchise

Go back to his original statement

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

again...sarcasm

breaking the bank doesn’t equate with trophies.

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you

The whole debate started when someone said that we would always be a 2nd-tier franchise because we dont spend money

I came back with the Steelers argument

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

yeap, i noticed...

and you have to build through all of the available paths:

draft/FA/trades

Much like NO did in building their SB winner

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

heya X

howsit bud?

i tend to agree with you. but i hope you are wrong. =)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm..

X.. as in..

X.. as in..x..?

X.. as in..x..?factor..

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 5, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh

like secks. Or sects?

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 5, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I like sex....

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Good, you had me worried

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 5, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the key is the guaranteed dough

He’ll be 32 during year three of that deal so I’m sure it’s a case of performance vs. market value. I doubt he makes it into year four of that deal.

I think an increase on the contract Bart Scott got last year sounds about right.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 5, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

what is wrong with the colt's front office. they lost the superbowl, & they diden't even have it in there back yard?

i’m not getting season thicket’s, till this is all but over, & i can see who we got & it hast to havethe name of (58) dansby!
    “rolle wood be nice addition also”

by wild zion beaver on Mar 5, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Natalya

Is Natalya really a girl ? If so she knows a LOT about football !

Dansby is THE premier FA on our radar – at a position of GREAT NEED… we simply must come up with a MARKET VALUE offer – or he will walk. Would any of you take less money if you had SEVERAL good job offers ? You might based on: your family/cost of living/taxes/weather – but Miami has advantages there….. His offer must come in a little better than BART SCOTT’S deal last year, OR we have no chance…. I am praying that this CHEAP FO pays up for once…..Top Dollar if needed.

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by 62Lou on Mar 5, 2010 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

Would I take less money?

answer: heck no.

NFL Careers are very short and most certainly finite (for everyone not named Favre or Vinny). There are no guarantees and let’s be honest, most of these guys are not particularly well prepared to do anything other than play football.

That said, sometimes they do overlook things with regards to money. Inexplicably last season, Haynesworth passed up signing with the Bucs and went to the Redskins despite the latter being in a place where he’d end up paying a state income tax.

Back to us, basically if Miami doesn’t offer something more than Bart Scott money then we can kiss off any chance of signing Dansby. If the jets were fools to guarantee Scott $8m+ then you can bet Dansby’s people will say, hey that’s their problem and we aren’t taking a lesser salary because of another teams mistake…

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this a shot..?
… let’s be honest, most of these guys are not particularly well prepared to do anything other than play football.

I think this is a shot..?

LOL

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember the dude....

Wow. Talya was right… (that hurt to write.. lol)

But yeah, he was good at safety…

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Coen Brothers reference. Oh Lefty Where Art Thou.

1. CJ Spiller RB Clemson 2. Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas 4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky
6a. Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 6b. Myron Rolle S Florida State
6c. Andrew Quarless TE Penn State 7a. Vince Oghobasse DT Duke
7b. Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech

by kdock on Mar 5, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Who's in it?

1. CJ Spiller RB Clemson 2. Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas 4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky
6a. Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 6b. Myron Rolle S Florida State
6c. Andrew Quarless TE Penn State 7a. Vince Oghobasse DT Duke
7b. Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech

by kdock on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Nobody particularly famous but the lead actor is Michael Stuhlbarg

in typical Coen brothers fashion it is a black comedy but also an interesting look at aspects of jewish-american culture as well as how a number of little things can have a big cumulative effect on a person.

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Beaver

Wild Zion Beaver has the best name on this site….but I don’t understand your post…

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by 62Lou on Mar 5, 2010 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Don't worry.

Understanding of the Beav will come in time.

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by Chupathingy on Mar 5, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

There's that too. LOL

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by Chupathingy on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

he is bitchin’ about the colts signing their mediocre LB to a big deal, and thinks it hurts our chances of signing dansby =)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

starting a bit early there eh, Left?

clearly if you understood that post then you had something other than coffee for breakfast…

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

i’m married. i had to learn to translate. ;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty much

but i think i would be in trouble if i called her that….. ;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Why? You've called her worse....

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah...

Not worth talkin about it…

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Pay Dansby and then cut Crowder and Wilson

bam there you go … were rewrding an IMPACT player and jetisoning under-performers. Draft a young ILB in the first 3 rounds and lets see what Clemons got. He cant be any worse than Wilson

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Mar 5, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

I will really be in shock if Miami lands this guy….not getting my hopes up.

by SEN on Mar 5, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

LOL... it was groceries... LOL

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

*wasn't*

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Just sign him

The Jets just signed Antonio Cromartie. Miami needs to keep up with the competition. Hurry up and sign this guy and a #1WR.

by soxoff on Mar 5, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

try not to interrupt....

he’s probably penning a draft of our offseason – One that doesnt’ include drafting CJ Spiller ;-) ;-)

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

seriously

though finster, how would you address the ILB position if miami skips on or short changes Dansby.

McClain?

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I have a solution,

now lets see, it’s 2 parts miracle grow, 2 parts purple cool aid,……………………

by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

hmmm....

i can understand uses for the miracle grow OR the purple cool aid separately… but what in sam hill you gonna do with them mixed together?

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't you see the obvious?

He is genetically creating Grimace to take over the ILB spot.

Duh.

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by Chupathingy on Mar 5, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

OOOOOOHHHHHhhhhh! Duh!

i thought the miracle grow was for his pot plants, and the purple cool aid was to mix with the shroom juice….

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

damn, i'm sorry.

sometimes my sarcasm gets away from me. I’m working on toning it down. i didn’t mean it.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

My opinion is you have to take some risks in signing guys instead of not doing anything. And its true the Jets are signing guys we have to get on the ball or its going to be another mediocre year.

by SEN on Mar 5, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

but here is the real problem...

consider it similar to negotiating with terrorists… give in once, they know they have you by the short and curlys. If you go outside of your “standards”, then it makes it tougher to hold the line when you are renegotiating your own guys later. The FO has to maintain their credibility for sticking to their salary policies.

not saying you can’t find a way to do it, but it would make them look weak to overpay for the guy.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

here we go with the political analogies....

so a donkey and an elephant are at a bar when…

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Paleez... since when?

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Donkey and elephant are in a bar...

having drinks together. bartender looks at them and says, “hey, i thought you guys were enemies!”

Donkey looks up and says, “Used to be, but the Pubs and Dems decided to go in a different direction…”

Elephant says, “That’s right… because there is so little difference between the parties anymore, the decided to combine them for cost savings and use a symbol more representative of the new members of the combined parties…”

Bartender says, “Yeah? What’s the new symbol?”

Donkey says, “A fat ass”.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

And Gerbil is not being overpaid??

by SEN on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Soooooooooooooo.........

did we sign Dansby yet? I mean we’ve argued it thoroughly for at least 12 minutes. More than enough time to make a decision.

by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

ROFL!!

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by Chupathingy on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Releasing money to sign Dansby........

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolle??? Dansby???

They have to cut Gerbil so they can free up some cash. There have been reports that Rolles agent has been talking to the Dolphins while he’s been visiting with the Giants. We really need a S now that Cromartie has gone to the jests.

by jesavius on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 5, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

... calle ocho....

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

just because they said Dansby is meeting with Miami today....

doesn’t mean he was here at 8am sharp lol

As far as I have heard, as of 1pm, Dansby had not arrived in Miami yet.

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

... and their getting J-Lo's ass ready too....

Once he sees that, he signs!

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

plus the 3 hour time difference and the flight itself

If some expected him to be here by 9am, he would have to have flown out of Arizona at 3am lol

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Dansby has left and is headed to DC

See I told you this franchise will not spend money
I think I am going to bring back Th XFL

by ecks on Mar 5, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, oh....

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by Alpha6 on Mar 5, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Says who?

And no one needs a bandwagoner anyway

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 5, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm hoping Dansby is a Dolphin!!!

Even Antrel Rolle

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by el presidente 00 on Mar 5, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

dansby

if the idiot hasnt signed yet, boot him out the door and bring in someone who wants to play for the dolphins. he should have signed by now, and i dont believe he is worth 30 mil! eff him!

by tony32976 on Mar 5, 2010 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

NFL Network reports Dansby will be a Dolphin

They are just talking about it now

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 5, 2010 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

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