What does Brackett's new deal mean for Dansby?
The Colts today re-signed starting middle linebacker Gary Brackett. His deal is a 5 year deal reportedly worth $33 million, with $12 million in guaranteed money. And Adam Schefter just said on ESPN that "other defensive players who are out there will look that this deal as a benchmark."
If Gary Brackett, a very good player himself but not on the level of Karlos Dansby, is getting nearly $7 million per year, how much would the Dolphins have to shell out to Dansby if they want to prevent him from leaving their facility today without a signed contract? Nine million a year is definitely attainable for Karlos. But would the Dolphins do that - especially with the $25 million or so Dansby wants in guaranteed money.
This Dolphins' front office is notoriously "stingy" in that they refuse to over-pay for a player's services. They have a figure in their head and they simply won't go above it. But with teams like the Redskins - and even his former team, the Cardinals - likely waiting for Dansby to leave Miami so that he can make visits to their facilities, can the Dolphins take the risk of setting that figure in their head and not going above it even if it would prevent Dansby from leaving?
We should know more as the day progresses.
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JUST SIGN HIM
Honestly what are they waiting for, if he leaves miami without a contract, he won’t be back. Give him whatever he wants, we’re instantly a better team and like you said before we can use that 12 pick on another gaping hole we have on our defense (FS,NT,OLB)
Emitionally, i agree with you
but at an intellectual level, there are several ways to solve the problem (or at least work around it this season), besides signing Dansby.
Besides the obvious drafty choices, a REALLY good NT would improve our existing LBs in run support, and a REALLY good FS would help the LBs in coverage. So while i want Dansby, I don’t think they need to break the bank for him.
That being said, i hope they can work something out.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Damn Lefty, where the hell did that come from...?
Well said.
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I DISAGREE!!! If we don't get a linebacker ASAP that can cover TE's....
We are SCREWED!!!!! All year long, teams were able to have their TE’s run simple 5 yard outs and DOMINATE us with 10 to 15 yard gains…. Only when I consistently saw this, did I realize how bad Akin was..
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Mar 5, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
yes, end of the world, Armageddon, doom and gloom forever… yada yada…. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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i dunno... i had this momentary flash of clarity...
but it’s gone now
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, it'd be funny to go to a game wearing one of those "End of the world" signs.....
chanting “we can’t cover Tight Ends, the end is nigh”
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Mar 5, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I've said from the get-go of our Dansby flirtations...
that I think it will take >= Bart Scott money to sign Dansby.
We can say Scott is overrated or overpaid but in general the salaries go up. Moreover, you can bet that Dansby’s agents will say that his client is better than Scott – so why/how would they take less money?
um the Steelers dont go out and spend tons of money either.....
are they a 2nd tier franchise? I would say no
Also I would say the Trifecta has done a pretty damn good job here in 2 years
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
What the f...
Look, spare me the shit. When Danny boy needed a RB did we get him one…NO!!!!
Team needs a WR.. Do we have on…..NO!!! The Trifecta needs to pull there heads oput of thier ass and star spending some money. Dansby is BMW, Crowder and Torabor are
a Pacer and Yougo
spare me the overdramatic whoa is me attitude too lol
and I am not wrong, the Steelers do not go out and spend money in free agency. Your outburst doesnt change that fact
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Wow I am about to blow your argument out of the water
Dolphins were 2nd in offseason spending last season
So we don’t spend money how? LOL
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
and look what we have to show for that money spent....
and now, starting at S for your miami dolphins…..
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I didnt say we made good signings lol
I was just showing that the argument that we dont go out and spend money completely wrong
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I thought they spent it pretty well with maybe the exception...
of Gerbil
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
ok who else would you see was a bad signing from last season?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I was being facetious...
though the fact we are having big discussions here about Dansby suggests Mc(Crowder) has not exactly been a home run (re)signing either.
while true...
We saw what happened to the Dolphins D when Crowder was out the last 3 games, they were terrible
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
i don't think they did bad in re-signing Crowder
you need two guys in there. He is just not a #1 guy.
but overall, I think the criticism has centered around the O-line dollars. But if i had to define the strategy (other than “inside out”, “trenches” stuff), i would say that we over spent to solidify the line, and will then bring cheaper guys along and gradually lower the overall relative cost.
They may do that in other areas, but I don’t think they view the other areas as needing to have the entire group top-notch. So if you get that REALLY solid LB, by himself, he will upgrade the entire unit.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Also it is possible Wilson plays better....
Under a new DC
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
that is SOOO cute!
but i think it’s a hamster…. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
... put it in a plastic bag... lol
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and I am not a Steelers fan, but I do respect them
and again just because I make the argument that the Steelers are as good as they are without spending money, does not mean I should go be a fan of theirs
Its a proven fact that most of the teams that are consistently successful in the NFL, stay that way with building through the draft and not overspending in free agency.
Grow up
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
This^^^
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
oh c'mon james...
look at how many lombardi trophies Snyder has brought to washington with his free-wheeling ways
by Natalya on Mar 5, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahaha
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
that was my original point....
We dont need to spend money to be a successful franchise
Go back to his original statement
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you
The whole debate started when someone said that we would always be a 2nd-tier franchise because we dont spend money
I came back with the Steelers argument
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
yeap, i noticed...
and you have to build through all of the available paths:
draft/FA/trades
Much like NO did in building their SB winner
heya X
howsit bud?
i tend to agree with you. but i hope you are wrong. =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm..
X.. as in..
X.. as in..x..?
X.. as in..x..?factor..
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 5, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Oh
like secks. Or sects?
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I like sex....
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I think the key is the guaranteed dough
He’ll be 32 during year three of that deal so I’m sure it’s a case of performance vs. market value. I doubt he makes it into year four of that deal.
I think an increase on the contract Bart Scott got last year sounds about right.
by special agent wildcat on Mar 5, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions
what is wrong with the colt's front office. they lost the superbowl, & they diden't even have it in there back yard?
i’m not getting season thicket’s, till this is all but over, & i can see who we got & it hast to havethe name of (58) dansby!
“rolle wood be nice addition also”
by wild zion beaver on Mar 5, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions
Natalya
Is Natalya really a girl ? If so she knows a LOT about football !
Dansby is THE premier FA on our radar – at a position of GREAT NEED… we simply must come up with a MARKET VALUE offer – or he will walk. Would any of you take less money if you had SEVERAL good job offers ? You might based on: your family/cost of living/taxes/weather – but Miami has advantages there….. His offer must come in a little better than BART SCOTT’S deal last year, OR we have no chance…. I am praying that this CHEAP FO pays up for once…..Top Dollar if needed.
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Would I take less money?
answer: heck no.
NFL Careers are very short and most certainly finite (for everyone not named Favre or Vinny). There are no guarantees and let’s be honest, most of these guys are not particularly well prepared to do anything other than play football.
That said, sometimes they do overlook things with regards to money. Inexplicably last season, Haynesworth passed up signing with the Bucs and went to the Redskins despite the latter being in a place where he’d end up paying a state income tax.
Back to us, basically if Miami doesn’t offer something more than Bart Scott money then we can kiss off any chance of signing Dansby. If the jets were fools to guarantee Scott $8m+ then you can bet Dansby’s people will say, hey that’s their problem and we aren’t taking a lesser salary because of another teams mistake…
Is this a shot..?
… let’s be honest, most of these guys are not particularly well prepared to do anything other than play football.
I think this is a shot..?
LOL
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maybe we could get him back?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I remember the dude....
Wow. Talya was right… (that hurt to write.. lol)
But yeah, he was good at safety…
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Coen Brothers reference. Oh Lefty Where Art Thou.
1. CJ Spiller RB Clemson 2. Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas 4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky
6a. Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 6b. Myron Rolle S Florida State
6c. Andrew Quarless TE Penn State 7a. Vince Oghobasse DT Duke
7b. Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech
Out left :>D
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't seen it yet.
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Who's in it?
1. CJ Spiller RB Clemson 2. Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
3. Jordan Shipley WR Texas 4. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky
6a. Linval Joseph NT East Carolina 6b. Myron Rolle S Florida State
6c. Andrew Quarless TE Penn State 7a. Vince Oghobasse DT Duke
7b. Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech
Nobody particularly famous but the lead actor is Michael Stuhlbarg
in typical Coen brothers fashion it is a black comedy but also an interesting look at aspects of jewish-american culture as well as how a number of little things can have a big cumulative effect on a person.
Actors that the Coen bros picked thank you.
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Beaver
Wild Zion Beaver has the best name on this site….but I don’t understand your post…
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Don't worry.
Understanding of the Beav will come in time.
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There's that too. LOL
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lol
he is bitchin’ about the colts signing their mediocre LB to a big deal, and thinks it hurts our chances of signing dansby =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
starting a bit early there eh, Left?
clearly if you understood that post then you had something other than coffee for breakfast…
LOL
i’m married. i had to learn to translate. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
pretty much
but i think i would be in trouble if i called her that….. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Why? You've called her worse....
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Pay Dansby and then cut Crowder and Wilson
bam there you go … were rewrding an IMPACT player and jetisoning under-performers. Draft a young ILB in the first 3 rounds and lets see what Clemons got. He cant be any worse than Wilson
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
me 2
it is Calvin Pace, The Sequel
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
i just hope cromartie does as well for them. ;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
LOL... it was groceries... LOL
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Just sign him
The Jets just signed Antonio Cromartie. Miami needs to keep up with the competition. Hurry up and sign this guy and a #1WR.
Dansby is not worth 9 mil a year IMO,
and I think it will take that much to ink him because he is the ONLY big name FA ILB.
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Not that I disagree with you but....
playing devil’s advocate. So he isn’t worth 9M, fair enough.
What’s the uncle finster plan for miami then in FA/draft in ’10?
oh no... you did not just ask that....
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Stock answer,
sound football decisions, ;^J
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
i would have to agree. 9M is high
but so are you
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
try not to interrupt....
he’s probably penning a draft of our offseason – One that doesnt’ include drafting CJ Spiller ;-) ;-)
hahahaha
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
seriously
though finster, how would you address the ILB position if miami skips on or short changes Dansby.
McClain?
No McClain please,
Foote maybe, IDK, I just don’t think overpaying for anyone is the answer.
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
so you don't have a solution, you just like to shoot down other people's solutions...
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I have a solution,
now lets see, it’s 2 parts miracle grow, 2 parts purple cool aid,……………………
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
hmmm....
i can understand uses for the miracle grow OR the purple cool aid separately… but what in sam hill you gonna do with them mixed together?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Can't you see the obvious?
He is genetically creating Grimace to take over the ILB spot.
Duh.
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OOOOOOHHHHHhhhhh! Duh!
i thought the miracle grow was for his pot plants, and the purple cool aid was to mix with the shroom juice….
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
damn, i'm sorry.
sometimes my sarcasm gets away from me. I’m working on toning it down. i didn’t mean it.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
i apologize
won’t happen again.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Your already plotting your next usage aren't you!
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
It was his political analogy below,
he’s protective of his short and curlies, ;^J
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
My opinion is you have to take some risks in signing guys instead of not doing anything. And its true the Jets are signing guys we have to get on the ball or its going to be another mediocre year.
but here is the real problem...
consider it similar to negotiating with terrorists… give in once, they know they have you by the short and curlys. If you go outside of your “standards”, then it makes it tougher to hold the line when you are renegotiating your own guys later. The FO has to maintain their credibility for sticking to their salary policies.
not saying you can’t find a way to do it, but it would make them look weak to overpay for the guy.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Paleez... since when?
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Donkey looks up and says, “Used to be, but the Pubs and Dems decided to go in a different direction…”
Elephant says, “That’s right… because there is so little difference between the parties anymore, the decided to combine them for cost savings and use a symbol more representative of the new members of the combined parties…”
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Soooooooooooooo.........
did we sign Dansby yet? I mean we’ve argued it thoroughly for at least 12 minutes. More than enough time to make a decision.
hahahaha
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by uncle finster on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
ROFL!!
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by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions
Releasing money to sign Dansby........
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Rolle??? Dansby???
They have to cut Gerbil so they can free up some cash. There have been reports that Rolles agent has been talking to the Dolphins while he’s been visiting with the Giants. We really need a S now that Cromartie has gone to the jests.
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just because they said Dansby is meeting with Miami today....
doesn’t mean he was here at 8am sharp lol
As far as I have heard, as of 1pm, Dansby had not arrived in Miami yet.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
... and their getting J-Lo's ass ready too....
Once he sees that, he signs!
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plus the 3 hour time difference and the flight itself
If some expected him to be here by 9am, he would have to have flown out of Arizona at 3am lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Dansby has left and is headed to DC
See I told you this franchise will not spend money
I think I am going to bring back Th XFL
Oh, oh....
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Says who?
And no one needs a bandwagoner anyway
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I'm hoping Dansby is a Dolphin!!!
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by el presidente 00 on Mar 5, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions
dansby
if the idiot hasnt signed yet, boot him out the door and bring in someone who wants to play for the dolphins. he should have signed by now, and i dont believe he is worth 30 mil! eff him!
NFL Network reports Dansby will be a Dolphin
They are just talking about it now
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