Karlos Dansby the key to Miami's offseason?
With Dansby now having officially confirmed just after midnight on ESPN that he'll be in Miami on Friday for his first free agency visit of 2010, this is a good time to share why I think the Karlos Dansby sweepstakes should be what all Dolphin fans are watching. In a nut shell, what happens with Karlos will affect what the Dolphins do in the rest of free agency and - even more importantly - in the draft.
Allow me a minute to explain.
As far along as this franchise has come since 2007, they have many needs. They need outside linebacker help. They need inside linebacker help. They need a nose tackle. They need a receiver. And they could really use an upgrade at free safety. Are all of those statements fair to say?
If the Dolphins can sign Karlos Dansby, this would free up the Dolphins to use their draft picks on their many other needs. I'm not a big fan of the inside linebackers available in the draft. Rolando McClain is the top inside linebacker (it's questionable whether or not Sean Weatherspoon would be viewed as a 3-4 ILB by this particular front office). But if the Dolphins don't spend the 12th pick on him - and I'm not sold on the idea that he's worth it right now - it'll be hard to find an upgrade for this team's inside backers. But it's clear this team needs more production out of that position. Jeff Ireland even said so himself.
So if the Dolphins are able to land Dansby, they can then focus on the outside linebacker, nose tackle, receiver, and safety positions in the draft. I really like the depth of the outside linebackers in this draft. So they don't have to spend the #12 pick on any of those. That would leave nose tackle, free safety, or receiver as the top priority with the 12th pick - with many good options available. Guys like Dan Williams and Earl Thomas will be available at #12. Coupled with Dansby, either of those two would instantly upgrade this defense.
But if the Dolphins don't sign Dansby, where do they turn to upgrade their inside linebackers? McClain would clearly be a serious contender with the 12th pick, assuming he performs well as his Pro Day workout. But that would then leave so many more holes to fill for this team in the draft.
Here's the question to ponder right now. Can the Dolphins improve their team this offseason as much without Dansby as they could with him? No - not even close.
And that's why Karlos is the key. I'm not saying they should offer crazy money. But make a fair market value offer to him and then impress him if/when he comes to visit. Talk about how he'd instantly be the centerpiece of this defensive front seven. And let him sit and talk with Bill Parcells for a while. It's clear from hearing him speak that Dansby as a ton of respect for Parcells. Use that to our advantage and bring in the play-making inside linebacker this defense needs.
Later on today when Dansby is in Davie at the Dolphins' facility, this front office has to do whatever it takes to prevent him from leaving. It's that simple. If Karlos leaves Miami without a contract, I have a feeling that he won't be back. Other suitors will be reaching out all day - especially the Redskins if they are unable to land Julius Peppers (and it's looking like Chicago is the favorite now for Peppers). Washington has seemingly unlimited money and will be aggressive. So I'm urging Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland to do whatever it takes to prevent Dansby from leaving without a deal. And if they need any help restraining Dansby, I'm sure we could wrangle up a couple hundred Dolphin fans who will sacrifice their bodies for this purpose.
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I agree totally and completely!
I’v been thinking this for a couple months now. He is the key to our off-season. He gives us flexibility in the draft, and fills a hole. What else do you want in a guy?
With the strengths in this years draft just so happening to be in some of the Dolphins need positions, this makes the value of Dansby shoot up to the Fins because they could make a run, and potentially fill all of their holes if they can manage to acquire him!
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I barely slept last night
but this is awsome news!
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great news!
the first team to get the player to visit, usually gets the players. Lets just hope this is the case with Dansby and us!
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I really hope I’m wrong my chums, but I believe that Dansby is a no deal maniana. This new regime has done a terrific job turnin’ our team around but they’re one of the most stubborn & prideful. I know I’m not the only one that is sick of the same story every year, I want RESULTS now! obtaining them via the draft is a long process to achieve that. Trifecta please put everything aside and gives us a chance this year.
RZ
by Dolfan2006 on Mar 5, 2010 5:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i second that. the draft should complement our pickups through free agency this year.
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dang
Jets got Antonio Cromartie
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they are all vets now except for Sanchise...
give them a couple years when some of their key players retire, or they cannot re-sign all of them, and they run out of draft picks, and they will be down in the cellar for years. They built that team recklessly, and have gotten lucky in my eyes.
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Matty you should have pulled the all nighter!!!!!
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I agree, and just thought I would post this video
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-free-agency/09000d5d816c02ac/Dansby-to-visit-Miami
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by Dolfan2006 on Mar 5, 2010 6:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I just had a lightbulb go off in my head and just to throw a wrench into everything. Do you think Ross will get stingy with his money knowing that the stadium is almost being forced to make upgrades.
A lot of that money hs to come from somewhere other than just Tax payers. Anyone!
that money is coming from higher ticket prices
and a new radio deal.
And I think Mike Dee came out and said they might be putting the renovations on hold right now.
>>> M Y P E R F E C T O F F S E A S O N <<<
FA:
Karlos DANSBY, ILB
DRAFT:
1* trade down (late 1+2)
1) Wheaterspoon Sean, ILB (olb)
2) Hughes Jerry, OLB
2) Joseph Lival, NT
3) Graham Jimmy, TE
3* trade down (4+5)
4) Demaryus Thomas, WR
4) Andre Roberts, WR
remaining picks:
5)
6)
6)
6)
7)
use them for
- another NT
- OLB
- CB
- RET
- OG
YES YES YES!!!!!
He won’t leave without a contract. Yes the front office is stingy and prideful but they are also very very smart and experienced and talented. They see it the same way we all see it that is why Dansby is in Miami first.
Cannot let him leave.
If he goes to Washington, he won’t leave. Snyder will give him a ridiculous amount that will set a new bar for linebackers.
He wants to top the 5 year $40m given to Bart Scott? Fine give it to him. Take his ass down to a bar on South Beach tonight and let him check out all the hot girls wearing short tight dresses. That plus warm weather and no state income tax should be all it takes.
I’m ready for the Dolphins to be splashmakers in Free Agency.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
DITTO GATORFIN !
IT’S TIME FOR THIS FRONT OFFICE TO MAKE A REAL SPLASH IN FREE AGENCY.
sure, we picked up a few good/solid players last year (Grove at least) and they tried with GERBIL – but we missed the boat on Bart Scott… and HOW MUCH did he help the JETS defense ??? a HUGE amount. Now with the clock ticking, lets spend some money and make this team a contender. I just want this FO and Ownership team to show their committment to WINNING ! and really that means – you SIGN DANSBY – pay him the contract he deserves….don’t be cheap. Then we have a great start to this years REBUILD of our mediocre defense…Dansby fits wHAT we need perfectly… and even then we will STILL NEED A GREAT DRAFT !!!
Draft a #1 WR (Boldin trade for a 3rd anyone?) Draft another OLB & ILB – its a DEEP draft there – and hopefully get one of the best “second tier” NT’s …
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DRAFT a #1 WR now.........
missed the boad on Bart Scott
… did I miss something?
what has he done for the JESTS except being an overpaid average ILB??
Scott is definately above average.
He was 2nd in tackles last year? and blew up plenty of plays, you guys will be looking up at the Jets all of next year.
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An update from NFL.com says....
That of course as you stated Matty, Dansby is visiting Miami today, but it also states that an agreement on a multi-year deal could come shortly if both sides agree to terms.
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Dream
>>>Get MLB Karlos Dansby
>>>Get S Antrel Rolle (at a discounted, fair value)
>>> Get WR Antonio Bryant
>>> Pick 12 – WR Dez Bryant
>>> 2nd – OLB Ricky Sapp/ OLB Jerry Hughes
>>> 3rd – DT Cam Thomas
>>> 4th – RB Joe McKnight
I think this would allow us to:
1. Upgrade the WR corp
2. Get a huge DT, a space eater, a monster…
3. Get a really good pass rushing OLB
4. Get an elite MLB that will hopefully bring out the best in Channing Crowder
5. Finally, upgrade our RB corp, and prepare for life without Ricky and possibly Ronnie
by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 5, 2010 9:50 AM EST reply actions
dont like it
Bryant is an overrated piece of trouble
- Parcells hates him = not gonna happen
not sold on Dez Bryant, rather have Demaryus Thomas in the 4th round who might be the better player.
main reason: our LB problem is not solved with Dansby + Sapp/Hughes
Couple of things,
OJ Atogwe > Antrel Rolle (and probably will be cheaper than Rolle too)
No to receivers named Bryant. Antonio is not that good and is only a #1 because Tampa Bay has no other receivers. On any other team (even the Rams) he would only be a #2 at best. Dez I think is just not going to live up to his hype/potential and won’t be that good. We know that Parcells doesn’t like taking a WR in the first and I think that the reports of Dez’s laziness will make it even less likely we take him.
Just my opinions though.
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Atogwe is restricted, I believe, so I think that would mean we have to trade a pick, which I don’t like. Plus, the stats show that Rolle is younger, and makes more big plays than Atogwe. He has 30 more tackles in his career and 3 more TDs.
Antonio Bryant is probably better than most of the other WR we have, but, yes, he may be a headache, so I can see where you are coming from on that. However, I tend to disagree with you on Dez Bryant. If you look at his numbers and performances, he is consistently having huge days and making big plays. I think consistancy is big when you play WR, and this guy definately has it. And, most of the big-time WRs are divas – e.g. Chad Ochocinco, Anquan Boldin, etc…
by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 5, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
but being a restricted FA like Johnathan above says...
makes it unlikely that we’d make a play for him.
Atogwe is restricted,
but the Rams have only tendered him with right of first refusal, meaning if we signed him we would not have to give up any draft picks. Rolle is a year younger than him and does make more tackles, but Atogwe creates more turnovers, with more interceptions and many more forced fumbles.
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Atogwe is rated as being better than Rolle
in the metrics & stats I’ve looked at, though obviously he played for an abysmal team and that does factor into how much noterity a guy gets.
Atogwe isn’t elite, but he seems solid and without the $8M+ price tag that Rolle carries.
Yeah
If we can get him w/out giving up draft picks, and he is much cheaper, then I wouldn’t mind at all. But, right now, I like the idea of bringing in Rolle. Of course, we may not even be interested in Rolle at all. So, lol… :)
by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 5, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
This is definitely encouraging.
Good to know that our front office got to Dansby right away and set up an immediate meeting. I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
As for the rest of the post, I agree with you Matty. Getting or not getting Dansby will completely change how we go about the draft and the rest of free agency. He will free up the need to get an ILB, so we won’t have a need for McClain, allowing us to focus on other areas. And I am completely NOT a fan of trading down to get Weatherspoon. The kid is a good player, but he’s not as good as the hype has made him seem IMO, and I don’t think he will be a good fit for us. But which area do we focus on first?
OLB? Like you said, there is a bunch of depth at OLB in this draft, so I don’t think that will be the 1st round pick either. We can get some quality players in other rounds like Kindle, Hughes, Sapp, etc, depending on if they fall or rise after their pro days.
FS? Well, a lot of this will depend on whether or not the Dolphins pick up one of the free agents out there. There are the rumors that they are going for Rolle, and there is also Atogwe who can be picked up with no draft compensation. Personally, I think Atogwe is a better FS option than Rolle, he creates more turnovers and is a ballhawk. If we got one of these guys, we wouldn’t need to necessarily draft a guy this year, although if we did we could still pick up someone like Major Wright in the later rounds.
NT? I think that this could be a very good possibility for the #12 pick. With teams re-signing or franchising the better NTs that would have been free agents, our choices are limited. There really isn’t anyone available that I would want to have as our starting NT, so I think we will look at the draft. We could definitely take Dan Williams or Cody (please god no!!) with our first rounder and fill that need, or we could wait and grab someone in a later round like Cam Thomas or Torrell Troup.
WR? We all know receiver is definitely a position of need for us, and I can see the possibility of the Dolphins using their 1st round pick to try and get Brandon Marshall. I can also see them trying to package a 4th round pick and a player to Arizona for Anquan Boldin. As for the draft, I am not a fan of Dez Bryant at all and think he would be a waste of a 1st round pick. I could see us making a play for Benn or Damian Williams or LaFell though, but I don’t consider Tate a possibility unless we get Marshall or some other #1 receiver first.
Of course, other things could change how we go about things as well, if someone decides to sign Ronnie and give us a 1st round pick, that changes things yet again and gives us more options. If that happens I think we definitely need to consider taking CJ Spiller with one of those picks (granted I think we should take him anyway but that’s not the point). And if we don’t get Dansby, this whole thing will change.
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AZ to try to keep Dansby!
just saw a tweet saying AZ going to try to keep Dansby. story on nfl.com soon.
DANSBY UPDATE
the Cardinals are back in the mix also
this is becoming a bidding war for Dansby
hope they are close to a deal, if he leaves Miami without signing, he is gone
Is Dansby the key to our offseason?
It all depends on the assumption of what is our primary need.
Since Dansby is coming here first for a visit, then that definitely suggests that the front office tends to see ILB as the top FA priority.
Should we sign him, then we’ve got plenty of options with that #12 pick which is best as there’s no clear cut guy at that spot who stands out right now.
consider him signed
I’ve read some reports that Dansby had his agent call us first. We were the first team he contacted so I’m pretty sure that if the Dolphins give him a fair market value deal he’ll take it in a heartbeat. And we will since we gave GWilson MORE than a fair market value contract!
But all in all, the way Dansby has talked about the Dolphins organization and Parcells shows me that he actually sees this team a couple of pieces away of becoming a Super Bowl caliber team. He’s been on a team that has been to the Super Bowl so he’s hungry for a ring. He’s still young so he’s not coming to Miami to enjoy the weather and location or living a talented team for better pay.
I feel like pinching myself because I consider this a done deal. I never thought an All-Star caliber ILB would fall on our laps! This is going to free up our choices for this upcoming draft.
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by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions
Why signing Karlos becomes a MUST HAPPEN situation.
If you’re a poker player here’s the time to go ALL IN and make a big play for Karlos. Here are my reasons why:
1. We’re not the same team when Jason Ferguson is hurt. Especially WHEN Jason misses a game next year Karlos will pay for himself when he stuffs the run late in the game for us. Not being able to stop the run was part of the reason why we couldn’t hold onto a lead late in the year.
2. When Crowder was hurt the opposing team ran over our defense. Again, we were crippled against the run when Jason or Crowder were out.
3. Of course it provides us more flexibility in the draft and one less roster spot to worry about for the next few years.
4. This will help us provide better coverage against Tight Ends. I know Karlos plays ILB but imagine having enough confidence in stopping the run where the SS can be a little less hesitant about coverage responsibilities. The same can be said for the OLB’s in a zone defense, against the pass.
If we don’t sign Karlos then we might as well not sign a premier wide receiver and just look to the draft to keep building for the future.
I agree with your assessment
but to say if we dont sign Karlos, we may as well not sign anyone else, is a bit dramatic lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
You didn't read what I wrote...
It doesn’t make sense for the front office to sign a premier wide receiver if we don’t have most of our other roster “holes” covered. The final piece is usually the wide receiver. If we don’t sign Karlos this year I think the Trifecta’s message is we’re not quite ready to spend the big bucks for the final push for a championship next year. And that’s fine. Let’s keep rebuilding and make a final push when we know all the pieces will be in place.
Right now there are too many holes on defense.
by D X on Mar 5, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
that makes a bit more sense lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 5, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Hog tie him if you have to, Make sure he does not leave that door w/o a fresh contract Tuna!
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by Biggest Dolphin Fan on Mar 5, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions
Good move
After McClain the talent drops in the draft. Paid too much but Dansby is good consistent performer. Way to go front office.
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