Phinsider Exclusive: Going inside the draft with Wes Bunting, part three
by Matty I on Mar 31, 2010 12:15 AM EDT
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PrintOn Monday I posted part one of my draft discussion with the National Football Post's Director of College Scouting, Wes Bunting. Part one focused on the offensive side of the ball. Yesterday I posted part two, focusing on the nose tackle and safety positions.
Today is the third and final part of the conversation and will center around the outside linebacker position. Lots of good info here, in my opinion, so let's get to it.
Matty: Now let's get to the outside linebacker position because that's another big need for the Dolphins. Which conversion 3-4 linebackers do you like the most?
Wes: Well my favorite is Jerry Hughes. I think his ability to get after the quarterback in a variety of ways - that's going to make him the most successful. The most NFL-ready is Brandon Graham. He's not the most explosive guy off the edge. But his suddenness on contact and his ability to play with leverage and slip blocks on the outside is second to none in this draft.
The wildcard is Jason Worilds from Virginia Tech. He's probably the most explosive of the three. He's a little raw but can get up the field, consistently turn the corner, and is really tough to block. And then Ricky Sapp, in terms of size and speed, might be the best of the four. But there are concerns I've heard about his knee. He says he's 100% now and ready to go. I talked to him the other day and he said he played last season at about 60%. Now if his knee checks out medically, he could be a real steal. He's definitely a first round talent. I just have reservations because of his health.
Matty: You brought up Hughes and I've openly declared Hughes as my favorite prospect in this draft (other than Eric Berry) at a position of need for the Dolphins. But will the lack of ideal size hurt both Hughes and Graham - especially in Miami where Bill Parcells has very rigid size requirements for his linebackers?
Wes: Yeah, I think so. I could see them taking Ricky Sapp - not at twelve, of course - more so than a guy like Hughes or Graham. A real wildcard is Jason Pierre-Paul, to be honest. This guy has a great first step. He's 6'6. He's big. That's what Bill Parcells likes. It wouldn't surprise me if Miami went with him there at twelve. From a size requirement, that makes a lot more sense than a guy like Hughes or Graham.
Matty: I wanted to ask you about Pierre-Paul. He also ha the one-year wonder stigma and the workout warrior stigma like Vernon Gholston had a couple years back. Are you worried at all about Pierre-Paul possibly being a flop at the next level?
Wes: Oh absolutely. I'd be terrified to draft him. He's a workout warrior. He can do some freaky things. He has freaky long arms and sheds blocks like it was his job. Now granted, if you had those long arms, you'd be able to shed that many blocks, too.
Things came really easy to him at South Florida. But he wasn't overly productive despite having George Selvie on the other side of him. So if things came so easy but he only had seven sacks seven sacks last year, there are obviously some concerns there. He's raw and doesn't have elite base strength at this stage. He has only one year of college experience. So he does scare me. He scares me a lot. And I don't know that I'd have the guts to pull the trigger on him in the first round.
Matty: Another potential conversion linebacker the Dolphins had in for a visit recently is Derrick Morgan. But is he athletic enough to make the transition to outside linebacker at the next level?
Wes: You know, I don't think so. I think he's best with his hand in the ground. I don't think he's a great defensive end athlete when I talk about explosion up the field. I think he's only average at that. But he can get after the quarterback with power and quickness of the edge. He can drop his shoulder, he can use his hands. One on one, he's a really tough block because of all that. But pure burst off the edge, I just think he's a little too heavy. I think he's more of a 4-3 rush end and reminds me a bit of Will Smith, the Saints' defensive end.
Matty: Last question. I mentioned earlier that you currently have Dez Bryant going to Miami in your mock. If you had to pick who you think the Dolphins will take at number twelve, is it still Bryant?
Wes: Yeah, that's how I do my mock. I don't what I would do. I do what I think they'll do. As of right now, I'll take Dez Bryant. It's early, though. What do I know? But I'd say right now, if I had to bet some money on it, I'd say with a little confidence that it's Dez Bryant. But anything can happen - I have no idea.
Who really thought the Dolphins would take Vontae Davis last year, with the character concerns and all. It just didn't seem like a logical fit. But he comes in and has really turned himself around and is going to be a good player. So who knows?
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I just don't understand how people can continue to ignore the concerns
just because of the perceived desperate need at WR.
Jason Pierre-Paul? Please, no.. I would love Ricky Sapp if his knee does check out. I think there’s a solid tandem with Cam Wake. Of course, that’s also in the same range as Jerry Hughes, who I love. Yet, Hughes is a pass-rusher by nature it seems. Cam Wake-esque? Seems like it.
Why does it seem so difficult to find a LaMarr Woodley?
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i agree dude
at the end of the day, when you look at – 1) how we played last year, 2) the natural progression of young players playing together again in the same system, and 3) and then ask how each draftee would improve our chances to win, I honestly think the answer is “A FS probably wins us a couple more games, a better pass rush probably wins us a couple more games, a better running game probably does NOT win us a couple more games, and a guy like Dez Bryant MAY have won us a couple more games.” I mean, there were more lost games in which our offense did enough, but our Defense could not stop the opposing team, than situations in which our Offense got shut down and could not score.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Exxxactly.
Lefty is the voice box for the unorganized thoughts in my head.
Thank you sir.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
you are not supposed to tell anyone that you can hear me…. otherwise, they come after you with butterfly nets.
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that Pierre-Paul would make sense
for a team that is solid already. Colts, Saints, Jets, Steelers, etc. (it truly pained me to put the Jets in there, but they can play some defense.) If he goes to one of those teams that is already solid, he can learn and not be rushed in and expected to be a killer. They would have much less to lose.
If we or another team with a lot of holes were to select him, it would be a bad idea. He may come in and start right away and be amazing. But the chances are greater that he won’t and it is too risky to lose out on a potential elite player at the #12 or earlier pick on a guy that may not pan out.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Desperate needs
Defensive front 7 is very deep this year, it will be easier to find a starter for these positions in the mid rounds. Not to many dynamic #1 caliber wideouts
Tony Sparano was just on ESPN talking about Dez Bryant
he basicly said that “he’s impressed with the body of work Dez put together at OSU. obviously he brings up some concerns, but we just got to do our homework”
now this doesnt mean we will draft him. but it deff. means that miami is seriously looking at him as a 1st round pick.
chris mortensen also said "parcells and Dez Bryants agent are really good friends."
just throwing that out there
Dont Dez have the same agent as Crabtree
better not try that hold out crap here if so
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I would not be angry if we took Dez
but it would be tough to tell who we take when good LB’S,WR’S NT’S and FS will still be around in the second and 3rd round man I cant wait
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i still say trade back and pick up sn extra 2nd or 3rd
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Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd
Really good chit there Matty...
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That he now should be viewed as sucking more.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
because of a pro day?
Sam Bradford looked great in his pro day yet he could be as much as a bust as people are putting bryant out to be
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by Deuce Black on Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
And Sam Bradford could be great, could be a bust. But it won’t be because he doesn’t have the determination and attitude to be a star, it will be because of physical limitations. Same goes for Tim Tebow; whether they both come short of expectations as quarterbacks, they will be able to contribute and will at least stay in the league and may eventually be a starter in some capacity.
You have a player like Dez who has all the talent in the world but doesn’t even CARE to put it together, and that’s a recipe for Mike-Williams/Charles-Rogers-ism.
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1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
well said
couldn’t care less about Dez’s 40 time, cone drill, physical skills, or any of that. It’s the motivational issues that make me believe he’ll bust.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 31, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
“Yeah, that’s how I do my mock. I don’t what I would do. I do what I think they’ll do. As of right now, I’ll take Dez Bryant. It’s early, though. What do I know? But I’d say right now, if I had to bet some money on it, I’d say with a little confidence that it’s Dez Bryant. But anything can happen – I have no idea.”
“I don’t [do] what I would do. I do what I think they’ll do” … REALLY?
“But I’d say right now, if I had to bet some money on it, I’d say with a little confidence that it’s Dez Bryant.” … Between Tuna & the facts (even before the slow time), incredibly long odds.
“But anything can happen – I have no idea.” … Now you’re talking!!
With so many needs/holes it can be anyone who falls & Tuna likes. Remember, its been stated several times that …. Tuna, Sparano, & Ireland ALL have to agree they want the player, then they rank these ‘consensus picks’ on a board & draft accordingly. Exactly how it went the first 2 drafts, don’t expect anything to change.
Mocking the draft is fun, but doesn’t amount to a hill of beans … less accurate than the weather forecasters. Before the draft everyone’s an Expert, after the draft most of the players can’t even play a lick, let alone do their job or star. Doubting??? … please review all our 90s Drafts, many were rated A & B … but we learned that means Awful & Bullhockey.
Meh, my money is on the Tuna to bring us some solid players … he’s not perfect, but we’ve come a loooong way in 2 years!! Go Phins!!! Cheers, JerryD
by JerryD on Mar 31, 2010 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well,
(Triumverate’s ability to draft in rounds 1-5 in 2008 and 2009) + (deepest draft in years in 2010) = happy times due to some awesome players coming to Miami
Dolphins and Gators baby!
He pretty much mirrors my feelings about the OLB's
Pierre-Paul is a freak, but he scares the shit outta me as well. Too many questions, and too many plays off and bad technique on tape. It even shows up on highlight films…
Hughes is my favorite of the OLB’s, but I like Graham and Sapp as well. Basically, I don’t like any of the guys projected in the top 15 (and no, it’s not because I like Spiller. I actually like Spiller so much BECAUSE I don’t feel like there are any LB’s better than him at 12). I like the 2nd round guys a lot because they are low risk (based on draft position) and high reward. Graham, Hughes, and Sapp all may be able to play the strongside, but they’ve also proved they can rush the passer in a variety of ways, so worst-case is they are situational pass rushers, and IMO, as long as the guy contributes, you didn’t fail with the pick. Obviously you want a starter out of the high picks, but with the bust rate so high in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, I’ll take a guy that can just play.
Surprised there isn’t a mention of Kindle. I’ve seen him projected to us in round 1 and round 2, so his stock seems to be all over the place. I’m not really sure how I feel about him, because he’s one of the best athletes of the group, but really struggles vs the run and is probably a Rush Backer in the 3-4, which isn’t our chief need in the LB corps…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 31, 2010 3:13 AM EDT reply actions
Draft position means nothing more than Are the Players we want still on the board for consideration
A bust is a bust no matter where u draft him, and a baller is a baller no matter where u draft him. In the end or 3-4 yrs from now u wanna be on the plus side. The pay balances out. the keeper % balances out hopefully.
no the pay doesn't balance out.
If you take a guy in round 1, and he busts, you are out a good chunk of money (his bonus is on the cap for the duration of his contract). If you take a guy in round 2, and he busts, you are out significantly less money.
Also, the bust rate is much higher in round 2 than it is in round 1, so if you miss in round 1, it’s worse. You missed on better players, with a higher chance of being right. Being wrong in round 2 is almost expected, since less than 40% of 2nd round picks work out.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 31, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
it is................afterall..........all about the benjamins..............
Just one mans opinion...
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i would either want to find a way to trade up a couple spots if Berry drops
or trade down.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
that's why the trade down/stockpile draft picks theory is popular..........
you reduce your chances of costly busts in the first and even the second………and you can usually find real talent to develop in the third and lower……i.e. the patriots
however you have to have starters in place to bring the young guys along…….we are not there yet……we are still cleaning house actually……so we need to take a chance and the top and hope for the best later on…….we have take a hit on a couple of early picks the last 2 years but we have definitely had more success than not……..
berry would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet………………
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
*at the top and hope for...
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
no no... i don't mean trade out of the first
if we could get an extra 3rd (or even better a 2nd!) to trade into the lower half of the first round, we could make out like bandits. This is the deepest draft I can remember at several positions of need, and some of these guys that would be first rounders in another year will fall to the second – with some real starting talent available through the third.
Because the Triad is so good in the draft, and extra 2nd or 3rd could easily end up being another starter.
ja’no?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Apr 1, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Sapp will be there with the 43rd pick.
Theres only one Elite reciever in the 1st round. Thats Dez. Theres a gaggle of OLBer Clones available all throughout the 1st -2nd.
i'd be down with Dez and then Ricky Sapp in round 2.
I like Sapp a lot as a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He was playing on bad knees last year. If he checks out medically, he’d be a steal.
he would be a steal.......and he has the prototypical size that many look for
Just one mans opinion...
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There are however a group of recievers bunched up there at the late 1st to mid 2nd round
LaFelle, Benn, Demarious Thomas-little raw, As well as mid rounders. Mike Williams (syracuse), Carlton Mitchell. Andre Roberts (citidel-sleeper)> yall know em all.
Boy I dunno about Dez Bryant.
His pro day workout stank. 4.5-4.6 40 yard dash is to slow. His footwork was also poor to very poor. And since its heating up on him I decided to do alittle history on the kid. As it turns out the vast majority of his production was outside the numbers in college. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE NEED FROM A #1 WR. We need someone who can go over the middle and make the tough catches. Bryant does not do that.
As for him being available at #12 I guarantee he is there and I would not be suprised to see him fall a good way down the boards to late 1st-early 2nd. As for him being the best player available or BPA at our #12 spot I certainly don’t see that happeneing with the talent in this draft.
I think the opposite
We need a guy who can consistently make catches OUTSIDE the numbers. Bess is known for his catches over the middle, likewise with Camarillo. We need a player who can stretch the field (and yes he can still do that with his slow 40, which wasn’t terribly slow anyways, what did Fitz run?) to compliment our other players.
WHO DID????..................don't you remember.....I DID!
i was the one that called for 2 corners in the first four rounds……we did it in three
i had davis first……and either butler or smith in the second….no one gave me any credit…..
i see you and wes disregarded sergio kindle once again……..i want you to look at the comparisons to demarcus ware and kindle………..ware was projected to be a late first, early second rounder too…….there are many other similarities as well……..look into it……
frankly i am a little surprised that no one agrees with me considering my track record with the draft……i also had chad henne on my radar along with the most obvious pick from the get go jake long………..
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(Fr8 gives MagicDolphin a cookie)
feel better now?
“Called it”…..come on. Thats sounds like a 10 year old argument. “Dude, I called the Bazooka GI Joe”…“uh huh….I called it first”.
Settle down now.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
but if he did, he DESERVES the damn cookie man!
I certainly did not see BillP grabbing two CBs in the first two rounds. I DID think we would get one in the first two picks, but i was really surprised to see them double up on the positions… surprised and very pleased!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks for sticking up for one of the long timers lefty.............
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob?
Magic Bob?
I like that……..
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by Choose your screen name: on Mar 31, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Who made that post? I forgot.
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by Choose your screen name: on Mar 31, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i cant remember either....but when i do i will call it
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
We did it in two rounds, sir.
If we do what you say we will, I’ll start to care—no offense. Too small a sample size to be bragging about it.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
So who do we take in the first four rounds?
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Mar 31, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
heres who i like
1. LB – Sergio Kindle
2. FS – Nate Allen
3. NT – Torrell Troup
4. LB – Brandon Spikes
5. LB – AJ Edds
6. C – Eric Olsen
7. WR – Marcus Easley
8. OG – Shawn Lauvao/Brandon Carter
9. TE – Nate Byham
10. FB – James Konz
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the offensive line selections....
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by MagicDolphin on Mar 31, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
There was no character concerns around Vontae,
there were definitely rumors, unsubstantiated rumors that were debunked before the draft, so there was no turnaround by Vontae because there was no problem to be turned around from.
It was all about that one game where he didn’t start, on paper that is. he did play the whole game AS the starter, he just didn’t start, and the fact that Vernon was his brother, his coach came out and totally squashed the incident, saying it was more of an incentive training tool for a guy he thought had tremendous potential, he went on to say that there were NO character concerns with Vontae that he was a hard working very coachable and driven individual who wanted to be the best.
Then there was his brother Vernon, guilty by association, just that he was his brother was enough for some media person to start to cast dispersions on him, again all debunked before the draft.
So I don’t think this is an example of the triumvirate taking a chance on a “troubled” player.
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no there was alot of character concerns with vontae
at the end of the day it was all rumor but he still slipped in the draft because of it and it benefited us in the end
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by Deuce Black on Mar 31, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
He didn't slip,
he was almost universally viewed as the 3rd best CB prospect and went ahead of where many had him going, in the early 2nd.
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by uncle finster on Mar 31, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa no he wasnt
he was a projected top 15 pick my friend and he was the second rated corner behind malcom jenkins(i always thought he was #1)
They tried to compare him to his brother in regaurdes that he has top physical attributes but doesnt put it all together
now vernon is a pro bowler and i expect the same for vontae
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Darius Butler was the consensus #2 rated CB,
but Vontae was never mentioned as a top 15, we were all pretty confident he would last until us.
nfldraftscout had him as the 3rd CB going inbetween mid 1st and early 2nd, click here for link
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by uncle finster on Mar 31, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Darius Butler consensus #2? no my friend
Darius Butler was a second ronunder boarderline 1st
and nfldraft cout.com isnt the consensus that just one opinion
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&pid=30
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3686211
and the second link is the espn top 32 rankings look where vontaes at then darius butler
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by Deuce Black on Mar 31, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
rumors about testing positive for marijuana
Work ethic and intangibles will go under microscope after being benched by Ron Zook.
i took that from one of his scouting reports
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by Deuce Black on Mar 31, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably floated around BY a team like Miami.
Or affiliates.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You just read the title of my post didn't you, lol.
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by uncle finster on Mar 31, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
YES - HUGHES, SAPP ...
These would be great picks – No…No…NO to Pierre-Paul – He has “bust written all over”
Graham is a decent pick but we need more SPEED OFF THE EDGE- Hughes and SAPP are better in my opinion
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i think miami should consider Daryl Washington in the second.
when i was watching the TCU vs Boise State game, he always seemed to be around the ball. he lead the team with 109 tackles. i was impressed with him watching that game. but i think he’s more of a coverage linebacker than a pass rusher. i think he could be a great option in round two.
I think this regime can handle Dez
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Well, it just keeps getting better, duntit?
Dez Bryant opens his mouth and inserts foot (without his cleats) once again:
“I don’t say anything wrong to nobody. I’m friendly. This…is too far,” he said. “Even if I did forget my cleats, what do that have to do with me playing football? … Y’all don’t want me to go to the NFL? It is going to happen. God blessed me to have this ability to play this game. … I’m going through the same situation Randy Moss did.” He also defended Pacman Jones. “Why down talk the man?” Bryant said of Pacman. “The man did everything right.”
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
LMAO
the kid is somewhat clueless, huh?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
A Genius Bryant is not.
Maybe we could draft Dez and Rolle then follow them to see who makes the better “student” athlete, the bookworm or the guy who wonders what his cleats have to do with playing football.
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There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Mar 31, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
rofl!
or the guy who wonders what his cleats have to do with playing football.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 31, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe...
… he walks around with three shoes… two to walk with and a third to insert in his mouth when he talks….
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