Dez Bryant's workout answers few questions, and raises even more
by Matty I on Mar 30, 2010 9:13 PM EDT
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PrintTuesday was a big day for Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant - a top ten talent with some serious red flags. If Bryant could knock his Pro Day workout out of the park today like Sam Bradford did at his workout yesterday, he would have thrust himself back into the top ten of the draft.
But he didn't.
Perhaps the rumblings of Bryant running a sub 4.4 40 last week raised expectations to unfair heights. Regardless, Dez did not do what he needed to do to ease the minds of NFL teams. There were reportedly as many as 20 teams on hand to see Bryant's workout. The Dolphins were there, too. But they were not represented by Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland, or Tony Sparano. Does that mean anything? I have no idea.
What I do know is that Bryant reportedly underwhelmed scouts. He ran his 40 three times, with reports ranging anywhere from 4.52 to 4.68. Most reports have his time listed in the mid 4.5s. That's not a bad time for a 220 pound receiver. But it's not great, either.
His 38 inch vertical leap is impressive and he reportedly displayed good hands during his positional drills. NFL Network's Mike Mayock had this to say about Bryant's performance:
I saw a guy with a 38-inch vertical leap, I saw a guy broad jump 11-foot, 1-inches and I saw a guy run a 1.5-second flat 10 yards. When you add that all up, it should equate to a 4.4, 4.42 40.
But he ran a 4.55 as an average today. So I was disappointed with the 40. I’ve got to attach some significance to that, and that’s the difficulty all 32 teams are going to have...
...The best part of the workout for me was that he got into the routes. He can pluck the football. Strong hands, big body, 224 pounds. I like the guy but I can’t put him in Larry Fitzgerald's class.
SI.com's Tony Pauline wasn't exactly as easy on Bryant as Mayock:
His results were far from spectacular and the word is that he looked ill-prepared to perform in front of scouts. His 40 times ranged from the mid 4.5-second area to as slow as 4.63 seconds. He looked out of sorts during his three cone and shuttle runs, reportedly because he forgot to bring his running cleats to the workout. Bryant was forced to wear a brand new pair of cleats that were not properly broken in and, as a result, he has done a lot of slipping and sliding during his 40 and shuttle runs. Even worse, scouts have reported that Bryant seems unmotivated and is not giving a great deal of effort. This is not going to help his draft stock, which has been in a free fall.
Ouch. Descriptions like "unmotivated" and "not giving a great deal of effort" clearly are big red flags. The fact that the kid could actually forget his cleats for what essentially was the biggest day in his football life also has to send up another red flag.
Maybe the media is blowing some of this out of proportion. Maybe they aren't. But considering 33% of the over 2,200 people who have voted in our poll want Dez Bryant to become a Dolphin, this is definitely worth discussing.
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I have a question for you....
When you have the Wrs we have….and a young QB who needs a #1 WR BADLY to progress….How do you PASS ON THIS!!!!
Dez Bryant’s last 16 games – 1803 Yards, 23 TDs , 104 rec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G6M1hOHIkE
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By the way
Boldin created initial concerns of the NFL scouts after he registered a relatively slow 4.71 time in the 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine.
How’d that workout?
Its a 4.5….good enough. Watch the tape and tell me he’s slow…he dominates…people are nit picking a guy on one hand…and on the other saying he’s the best WR in the draft since Larry Fitzgerald.
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LARRY FITZGERALD RAN A 4.63
I spit on your pathetic 40 time worries….Paaa!
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 30, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dez went to Deon Sanders house and lied about it
his “issues” are minor.
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Good News: Miami Dolphins select Dez Bryant with the 12th overall pick.
Yes, folks, as a result of his mediocre performance today, we will luck out and get the opportunity to draft Dez. Getting a top three talent at the 12th spot is the blessing this team needs. If you think we should stay away from him because of today than you’re ignoring/underestimating two things: (1) The ability our couches have to make him successful in this league (professionally and performance wise); (2) both his athletic ability demonstrated on tape and his physical prowess. These qualities make him a No 1 WR. Our courage to draft and mold him will make him a perennial pro-bowler.
How about skipping the maybe this and that and use the #1 on the PROVEN Brandon Marshall?
At leaste you KNOW what you are getting. This kid may or may not be as good as Marshall. He may or may not be as much trouble as Marshall. He may or may not have the motivation of Marshall. He may or may not cause problems like Marshall might. Why take a bet on a kid like this when you can use the same pick and snag the 2nd best receiver in the NFL right now? I just do not understand this. IF this FO is seriously considering this kid with all teh unknows why not just get the real deal instead? One who you know will dominate as a receiver? MARSHALL.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
What are we, the Bengals?
We can magically take head-cases and turn them into productive players who co-exist?
I’ve got news for you: just because Bill Parcells and Tony Sparano COULD (theoretically) transform a guy’s attitude, does not mean they care to. Not once do I recall them taking in a diva for the sake of talent, regardless of position. They don’t want a divided locker room. They don’t want immature nonprofessionals. Vontae Davis’ character concerns were smokescreens. These aren’t. Forgetting your cleats to your own Pro Day? Why should we expect him to remember how to run a route?
One of the single most important factors of success in this league are heart (perseverance, motivation, determination, etc. from a football sense), and he is the Tin Man.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
great comment.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
I see him dropping maybe as far as the 3rd round for the exact reasons that everyone is saying...
Possibly farther even. With the talent level the way it is it only takes a small thing to make a guy drop. Forgetting his cleats + character concerns? That might make him plummet down the draft boards of teams. If we drafted him even in the 3rd or 4th round and we used the money that we would have saved on his contract and hire a guy to follow him around and remember his cleats for him, and smack him in the back of the head whenever he thinks a stupid thought.. we might just have something there… If only more star athletes could hire a professional conscience…
Derrick Morgan OLB(pick 12), Terrence Cody NT (trade a 6th + 7th round pick to jump back ahead of the Chargers from pick 43), Jimmy Graham TE (pick 73), Brandon Spikes ILB (4th rd) Linval Joseph(5th rd), Myron Rolle FS(6a), Danario Alexander WR (6b), Legarrette Blount RB (7a), Chris Scott OG(7b)
by Jason Scott_90 on Mar 31, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Now thats just being ridiculous....
If all of the planets align, the farthest he drops is maybe the first couple picks of the 2nd round…..absolute worst case scenario…
Realistically I’d say he might drop to the 20’s.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
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ah..........
they picked up Owens in Dallas.If thats not picking up a diva just because of talent i dont klnow what is.
Hence why Bill Parcells left/"retired"
He wasn’t buying those groceries; those were spoiled milk and rotten eggs that Jerry Jones just had to consume.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 31, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Jones picked up Owens,
not Parcells.
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Its ever so likely now that he will slip to 12
and i would still take him…hes the #1 wr that we need he has good hands and hes dominant in jump ball situations
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ya Henne needs a "maybe"
If your going to take a BIG CHANCE on this kid.. why not just use the damn pick on a PROVEN ELITE receiver named Marshall?
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
It is not so much the numbers that bug because what ever he's big and what not
But I was more disappointed that he was not prepared for this big day. If that is a sign of what is to come, I really hope we don’t have anything to do with him.
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remember orande gadston
I know i remember thinking if this guy was younger and a little faster. Man what a reciever he would be. reliable, attacks the ball ect.
i highly doubt he just forgot his cleats
you never know what happened…but im not gonna believe he just showed up in his sneakers and was like “oh shit…today is my workout?”
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well I dont like the sound of that either what happened to professionalism?
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who knows what went down?
its a mix up. how stupid will it sound if in 5 years hes a ProBowl regular and people passed on him cuz they thought forgetting his cleats was sign he wasnt sharp enough
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well what about not being prepared for his drills and quiting on his bench press?
Those to me are signs of laziness I just think from that he might not have the work ethic we would like in Miami. I’m not doubting his talent he is talented.
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it said it on Fr8Trains Fanshot
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While I wish I was a good "source" :)
I will link to the article
Dez’s Pro Day Summary
More concerning is the fact Bryant seemed unprepared to properly run the short shuttle, long shuttle and 3-cone drills. He had to re-run several of the drills and never once ran hard to the finish, frustrating all in attendance. His hip movements looked tight, and he struggled to change directions quickly. He also quit the 225-pound bench press after 14 reps, even though he obviously could’ve done more
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lol thx I figured he would just go check it out
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:) I was just making sure lol
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How can you expect the man to do a full benchpress in the wrong cleats?
That’s just ludicrous!
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Maybe it IS A SIGN that he is not a quality player.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
ok at the end of the day the media is going to blow up the words Dez forgot his cleats
your probably thinking what an idiot, but there could be more to the story on why that was who knows. im jus sayin
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I don't think hes an idiot because I have forgotten things as well.
He might have left them by the door were his bag was and just grabbed his bag. I’m more worried about his work ethic because he wasn’t prepared for his pro day.
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was it lack of work ethic cause the guy was clearly looked like a specimen out there
but i heard a gm say that he looked out of shape and that makes sense considering they had him run his 40 like 10 times
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
because he kept messing it up he was not properly prepared.
Everyone but him seems to be working out for there pro days and private work outs. What makes Dez so special that he doesn’t (not saying you said that just saying) have to work out? He had 6 months to get truly ready to blow the scouts out of the water and he didn’t do that.
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your right when a player has a pro day it usually scripted to make you look good
so its disappointing that he didnt look polished in combine specific drills with that said if you take this out of consideration he is a premier talent and if he fell to us i would love to see him in a dolphin uniform
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I have never doubted his athletic ability I won't be to upset if we draft him
Like I said before I have always had a problem with his work ethic.
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we need explosion on O-fence where we disagree is who will bring it.
I think it’s Cj Spiller you think it will be Dez Bryant.
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I just think his work ethic will play a big part in this FO decision.
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no no no
i think cj spiller as well but if either one is there when we pick i got no problem closing my eyes and picking one
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
lol that is fair.
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ight i understand that but were you aware of his work ethic before
this year
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yes I was, I love watching all college ball.
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im talking bout like his sophmore year
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
what year was that?
If it is anywhere between now and 1999, when I started to really pay attention to football. Then yes I was aware of a WR that played for OSU. That wasn’t causing problems but making bad choices and no I can’t remember what those choices where.
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Lol just telling you how I feel about him and that I had my opinion of before I joined this site.
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of him**
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He ran his 40 like 3 times per the Matty's summary.
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
What I do know is that Bryant reportedly underwhelmed scouts. He ran his 40 three times
Here is Todd McShay’s report via cell phone from the workout, that says he ran it 3 times….the 3rd time is because scouts made him run it because the first 2 times had a high variance in times.
Todd McShay’s report via Cell Phone at Dez’s workout
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
he ran twice with the wind, twice against, then again with
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by Deuce Black on Mar 31, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
So how does that make it 10?
Although all reports say he only ran 3 times….
so not sure where you get your 5.
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i was speaking hypothetically
that it really felt like ten..could you imagine running 5 40’s let alone 3?
..i could but i would be gased
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by Deuce Black on Mar 31, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Or it may just be an excuse as to why he is not as fast as he was suposed to be.
A “planned” mistake.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
either way its pathetic.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
How Fast Do You Run The Forty?
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 30, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody is arguing his speed. that was okay.
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It was a joke. To the guy that left his tent. LOL. Somethings get lost in translation.
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 30, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
lol oh I see
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How fast can he run a 40 with the tent?
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Forget it. LOL
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
How fast can he drink a 40 in the tent?
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)
Now your talking.
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 31, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I run the 40 in 2.3 flat.
Oh wait.. maybe I run the 2.3 in 40 flat.. I forget.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
Use the #1 for Marshall and screw this kid
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
Lmao imagine the craziness on this site if the Phins invite Dez for a workout.
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If you can't
want the dolphins to draft this kid you are insane!!!! We need a WR who can fight for the ball, create separation, and stretch the field. If you watch tape on Benn, Thomas, Tate, etc.. The whole clip just shows them being wide open scoring TD’s. Watch Dez Bryant, there is no ball he doesn’t just take away from the defender if its not a good pass. The kid is absurd, forget these “red flags” he’s a baller. PERIOD
by cheeks88 on Mar 30, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Here's a guy that does all of that without the big ticket price...
- Can fight for the ball? Check
- Create separation? Check
- Stretch the field? Check
- Move the pile? Check
- Catch in traffic, double covered, when everyone knows the play called before the snap? Check
His red flag isn’t work ethics, it’s health. When healthy this is the guy you want on your team.
doesn't he have 2 bad knees?
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i dont want ppl that cant stay healthy
thats why this year might be ronnies last as a dolphin
which sucks cause i like ronnie. but he just cant seem to stay healthy
I'd rather have a guy with "character problems"
than someone with an injury problem, every single day of the week. Alot of Character issues can be resolved. Some people won’t learn, no matter what you do, but at least they still have a possibility. The injury bug is always an omnipotent factor. If you can’t stay healthy, you really need to find a different profession.
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
I still say if you are thinking #12 for Dez....
You are better of trading the Broncos for Marshall.
No matter what way you look at this. Brandon Marshall > Dez Bryant. Its not even a discussion. So if you are thinking of drafting Dez, and especially after this Pro Day, I personally would think that trading for Marshall now HAS to enter your mind.
I don’t want Dez. I think he’s a guy with a TON of talent. But little work ethic to better himself. So despite all of that talent, at the NFL level he’ll be average….thats my opinion. If we draft him, I’ll throw my shoes at the TV and curse and scream and throw up a very long winded Fan Post…. and then at kickoff….I’ll cheer his ass all damn game, and pray that he proves me wrong.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
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by Fr8Train on Mar 30, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, I agree
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
Even I agree with this.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yea I wouldnt mind trading for Marshall as long as we keep our first.
I know we can entice Denver with a second and somebody else
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However, if we are going to use our 1st on Dez...
Better to use it for Marshall…. Thats all I’m saying.
I still think you can get Marshall for a 2nd & Something, but if it takes the first…and you are even considering Bryant….or targetting Bryant, you now have to at least call Denver…..in my opinion.
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yea I can agree with that
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I agree as well
Hell anyone with a brain has to agree with that dont they?
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
imagine if the talented Dez Bryant..
had Tebow’s work ethic !
he’d be ELITE
he would be #1
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this is parcells handywork!
he just called Dez and had a private workout. then parcells absolutly loves him so he told Dez we want u to be a dolphin. so mess up your pro-day so your sure to not go in the top 10. dez was like fo sho mista P!
thats whats going on. so everyone, dont worry, everything is under control. this is just parcells just working his magic!
or Dez is just lazy. who knows! lol
Yes to the just lazy part.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree 1000000000000000000000000 %
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
half of those arent even checks
he cant create sepaeration
he cant stretch a field
hes not a runningback so i dont know why the hell you put move a pile
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
with all thats being said Dez led the polls with 776 votes
the next closes thing is cj spiller(302) and earl thomas(301) so it looks like a majority wants him
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thats cool not like what any of us think matter. You and me included.
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think's** matters**
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Oh hell what I think does not matter?
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry TCP.
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
LOL No worries. I never thought anyone even noticed me let alone listened to me anyway.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
no but im saying theres so many people saying thet dont want dez for whatever reason
but yet in that featured poll everyone would WANT to see him with the dolphins
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by Deuce Black on Mar 30, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lol because the loudest people on here like Spiller.
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Im really a quiet person and fairly reserved in person.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yea but you are definitely on this site enough to count.
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Sure! Im here sometimes!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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Well I am.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dez Bryant > All Phins WR
barefoot
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That's not saying much....
lol
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Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
lol
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If he makes it to the games on time.. Dez 2 hours late < all Dolphins receivers
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins.
Hartline made me proud! Kid has "quality" & "heart" written all over him.
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Brandon Marshall or Dwayne Bowe please.. please?
As far as Spiller I watched him in a high school game against high school linebackers
And he looked the same in collage. Mismatch. I believe it’ll be the same in the NFL.
Chris Mortenson responding to me on Twitter
@rizzmiggizz: @mortreport – Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.63 , Dez Bryant is fast enough. >> Couldn’t agree more. Wish he was mature like Fitz
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this is what gets me
Wish he was mature like Fitz
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If he was mature I would really not have a problem with him.
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^ This
I’d even want him, if he was mature, and showed the work ethic.
I think if anything, his Pro Day VALIDATED all of the “rumors” about him being late to games, late to practice, etc….
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this^
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I just cant quit asking "how do you screw this up?" and "who does this?".
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially with an AGENT IN HIS EAR
Telling him exactly what he needs to do.
Exactly how his work out is going to go…
I mean, these guys practice their workouts until they can do it in their sleep.
All to look better on these days. They eat and sleep the Pro Day.
Dez had 6 Freaking Months to prepare…
And looked lost, unprepared, and like he really didn’t care….he almost looked like a guy who was okay if he dropped in the draft, because he’d still get more money then he’s ever made in his life.
And thats not the guy you want.
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And all that after holding his workout in the middle of freaking nowhere.
All those scouts had to drive half was across the state. Why did he hold it there?
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Only place that would have him?
or maybe they had a cleat store nearby?
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
I dont know. It seems like a poor choice at best.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hes a young dude
if any team can get him in line….wouldnt it be us?
Randy Moss had the same ?’s
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I guess
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Gotta agree with him here
and it’s not like the FO really seems concerned about character, unless of course when it comes to selecting players that will give them a better chance to win.
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
are you back on the Dez wagon? you going to the darkside again?
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I'm conflicted....
I DON"T KNOW WHO TO CHOOSE!!! Someone help me… Oh wait, I’m not the Dolphins GM. Whew, that was a close one. Well, I’m heading to Tahiti. Lemme know what happens during the draft.
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
wow if that is true have some fun
You better be surfing
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I was joking
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
lol I was gonna ask for some souvenir's next
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I am concerned that he seems to have the worst work ethic. I do not think this FO
want to have to be a bunch of babysitters. I do not care how much raw talent he has. If he does not put in the time and the work then hes going to suck.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Like Ginn Jr he's been putting in the time in the weight room last summer
and in the preseason i was thinking ok all right. this kids gonna step it up. so he put in the time and the work and in some eyes he still sucks. {me personally i’d give him another yr or two}.
Well that may be mental issue with Ginn.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I think hes scared. Different issue from being lazy.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
ginn had no knocks coming out of college except the ankle.
and now he’s having problems. These things we hear about Dez why didn’t we hear about them with Ginn?
your right though I think he sceeered too.
Yo Ginn say “I aint never Sceeered” what what
That he was lazy and showed up to a draft workout unprepared?
No, I mean who else does that? He may have cost him self millions today. How stupid!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ginn had a ton of knocks.
Didn’t run good routes.
Only ran 3 patterns in College
Didn’t fully “get” the WR position
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
True but a totally different argument all together.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree...just pointing out Ginn's knocks.
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Well then yes!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially with Matt Roth still leaving a bad taste....
I’d think work ethic is a key factor.
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
And this FO is not going to put up with it nor will they play babysitter for some
spoiled millionaire.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still not sure
if anyone will ever quite know what actually happened there. Work Ethic seems to be a cop-out, considering he went up to Cleveland and started beasting again. There’s gotta be more to what happened there.
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
Who knows.
Maybe the FO told him he’d have to “compete” for a spot, and Roth was convinced he had already earned it…
who knows. Either way, it didn’t go well, and you have to think the FO feels burned.
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Ever have that dream, where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? Why am I the only one that has that dream.
Randy Moss' questions had more to do with some legal issues that he had in school
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Moss tested Positive at the Combine for pot.
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 30, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No it was in college.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
But very few players are as mature as Fitz
His dad is a coach. He was a ball-boy for the Vikings, He was pretty much groomed to be an NFL player.
Hell, I was I was as mature as Fitz.
by PhrozenPhish on Mar 31, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
According to Mando he quit halfway through the bench press
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exactly what I mean about work ethic.
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I don't trust Armando....
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Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
he can have that typical Cuban exaggeration problem, take everything you read from him with a grain of salt.
but Dez did stop bench pressing when he clearly could do more. That is not what I want to see in Dolphin player. Half fast anything isn’t good.
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LOL Playing the personal race card to get away with a comment. Nice work sir!
I think I will have to use that about being Indian.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
lol but it's true
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LOL I know and thats why its ok. I thought it was funny.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
lol if you can make it work
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LOL Yeah I dont know how I work that in.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
not to be mean the only stereotype I know about Indians is the Indian giving thing.
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And that stereotype has always seemed backward as they had EVERYTHING
taken from them. The other one is that they are drunks. Im also Scots-Irish which are also suppose to be drunks. I guess I am doomed.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
lol just smoke your special tabac and you'll be fine
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I feel like I should have a legal right!
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
lol the reservation by my house reeks with it.
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Nothing wrong with that. Its their own little country there.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Past WR 40's
4.3’s: 3/18 or 17%
Javon Walker; 1st Round, 2002; 4.38
Lee Evans; 1st Round, 2004; 4.39
Matt Jones; 1st Round, 2005; 4.37
4.4’s: 6/46 or 13%
Deion Branch; 2nd Round, 2002; 4.47
Andre Johnson; 1st Round, 2003; 4.40
Roy Williams; 1st Round, 2004; 4.48
Reggie Brown; 2nd Round, 2005; 4.45
Mark Clayton; 1st Round, 2005; 4.41
Greg Jennings; 2nd Round, 2006; 4.42
4.5’s: 7/60 or 12%
Antonio Bryant; 2nd Round, 2002; 4.57
David Givens; 7th Round, 2002; 4.56
Nate Burleson; 3rd Round, 2003; 4.51
Arnaz Battle; 6th Round, 2003; 4.58
Bernard Berrian; 3rd Round, 2004; 4.58
Jerricho Cotchery; 4th Round, 2004; 4.54
Marques Colston; 7th Round, 2006; 4.50
4.6’s: 4/29 or 14%
Brandon Lloyd; 4th Round, 2003; 4.62
Larry Fitzgerald; 1st Round, 2004; 4.63
Michael Clayton; 1st Round, 2004; 4.67
Michael Jenkins; 1st Round, 2004; 4.60
4.7’s: 2/10 or 20%
Anquan Boldin; 2nd Round, 2003; 4.72
Ernest Wilford; 4th Round, 2004; 4.79
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lol why do you keep posting 40 times?
I dont think anybody is really bothered by his speed.
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thats what the article is based on, lol...he dissapointed on his 40. and because im desperate
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lol I hate the fact the 40 plays such an important role for some people. Not saying it does for you.
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i disagree
i think the big part of this story is now Dez looked “unmotivated” and disinterested. That worries me.
But for all we know, Bryant could meet w/ the Dolphins and just blow them away during his interview with them. And if Parcells and company end up taking him, it would mean they are sold on being able to help Dez overcome these maturity issues. And if that’s the case, I’d be fine with the pick.
by Matty I on Mar 30, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
though I hope we go after Spiller before Bryant.
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This
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
there's been waaay too many reports of him being unmotivated, uninterested, unprepared
and things like that going back to when he was playing. There are reports of him showing up 30 minutes before kickoff. His suspension doesn’t help, regardless of how stupid the reason for it was. Not being prepared for your own pro day, and having multiple people question whether you care on YOUR PRO DAY? No thanks. This is a kid that’s going to show up for the first day of camp (actually, probably 2-3 weeks in after a holdout) with his iPod headphones in jogging through drills like he’s a superstar.
I’m sorry, but there there’s so many damn work ethic and motivational questions surrounding this kid, I can’t help but expect him to fail. Guys that don’t care don’t make it in the NFL. Even Moss was lauded as one of the smartest players on the team, a film room rat despite some of the bad press. He also happens to be one of the most physically gifted players in NFL History.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 30, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh huh...
I mean you are in line to bet set for life (aka sign a top 15 NFL rookie draft pick contract soon), all you have to do is show up, be reasonably prepared, and you are golden.
You forgot your cleats? You quit on the bench press? You gave up on some routes?
Sheesh dude, if you care that little about your future that you don’t even put up a decent effort then I sure as heck am not convinced.
Moss comparisons are unfair I think……….to Moss actually. He was a dominator out there, who could out run, out jump, and out smart virtually any NCAA cb. Sure there were some character concerns, but his talent was top, top shelf as was his production. Dez isn’t nearly as talented or dedicated…
I'd like to use the comparison to Sidney Rice.
Work ethic, production. He did’nt blossom until yrs 2/3 with working with Cris Carter the formor Viking wideout.
I'd wish miami had a mentor for our young recievers much the same as chad p helped chad h
Regardless of which reciever miami picks. LaFelle, Benn or Bryant
I think that is probably alot of the problem
There are no veterans for the recievers. I notice the same issue in Oakland. Everyone there has potential and are fairly young, but they lack quality players and coaches to educate them.
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
true... if we must lets look at the patsies up in NE for example
There roster seem balanced with young and old players at many positions. WR RB DT
i would like to have Dez be a phin.
i just wish he could be a little more responsible. and idk if the lazy thing is true but i hope its not.
i just hope parcells and sparano like him enough.
Vontae Davis aint the sharpest tool in the shed...he shushed us affter his TD
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But that was not his intended meaning.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 30, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
he said he was "shushing his critics!"
lol. your a rookie. you dont have critics until year 2!
every rookie gets the “he’s still a rookie” pass if they mess up. lol
Not the smartest move but I dont think he was trying to tell out fans to shush.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The forrest? With all these trees...??
I have seen alot of Dez Bryant living here in Austin and going to Tex. Tech (which hurts by the way hehe). However, I dont believe he is what we need. I mean yes he is VERY athletic, and his speed is fine like Rzayo is saying. However, he has other problems.
For one he said he does not like to run slant patterns. If you look 99% of his plays are Outside the Hashes. He will quit on patterns if he has to go over the middle. That is not what we need. Yes we do have Bess, however we also have a guy who just plays outside the hashes only (I didnt say he could catch all that well but he plays outside the hashes).
When I watched his highlights and saw his three cone drill, he looked like he didnt know what he was doing. He look like he got frustrated and just shut down on a couple of other drills and did not really “finish them”. He did drop some balls, but who doesnt every once in a while, although he didnt have anyone covering him.
His stats in college are a little misleading too by the way. The Big 12 is not really known for having great defenses. More of spread passing games. Where receivers look like gods and the quarterbacks do too. Here are his 2008 stats, since his 2009 stats will be a little skewed.
DATE OPP RESULT REC YDS AVG LNG TD
8/30 @Washington State W 39-13 7 90 12.9 19 0
9/6 Houston W 56-37 9 236 26.2 74 3
9/13 Missouri State W 57-13 0 0 0.0 0
9/27 Troy W 55-24 6 118 19.7 44 3
10/4 Texas A&M W 56-28 5 106 21.2 29 3
10/11 @Missouri W 28-23 7 47 6.7 14 0
10/18 Baylor W 34-6 11 212 19.3 52 2
10/25 @Texas L 28-24 6 74 12.3 23 0
11/1 Iowa State W 59-17 9 171 19.0 80 4
11/8 @Texas Tech L 56-20 4 86 21.5 47 0
11/15 @Colorado W 30-17 4 82 20.5 29 1
11/29 Oklahoma L 61-41 6 91 15.2 36 2
As you can see he did have his best games against teams that are probably Division II schools or some that should be (see Baylor).
Im not saying IF Miami drafts him I’m going to be extremely upset, but im not sold on him. Just watching him quit on plays and then not really care(not sure what else you would call it showing up late to games and such), just turns me off. Sure the Dolphins staff “might” be able to control him, (I feel sorry for the trainer that will have to go pick him up before every game so they can make sure he is there hahaha.) I just dont see it working out that way. Human beings are creatures of habit and sometimes habits can not be broke.
If he can “pull it together” I would love to have him on my team however, until I see otherwise (from seeing first hand) then I can not truly support us going after him.
by Austinphin on Mar 30, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice argument
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If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
91 yards and 2 TDs vs, OKL...yea they suck
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haha
Ok and OK state always play each other close and well. Like Tex A&M and UT do. Is in state rivals.
Plus I remember that game,
Because if OK lost then Tech would have had the big 12 south. At the end since Ok was up they put in the second and third stringers and he had some catches at that point. Instead it ended up in a three way tie in the big 12 south and Ok taking the division.
Agree in not being impressed...
Dez was not blazing past college DB’s nor was he dominating out there either. In the pro’s he’ll have even less space given his lack of burner speed and almost every DB he faces will be every bit as talented. I just don’t see him as a top NFL receiver.
He may be somewhat built like Fitz and not have great speed, but my gosh, Fitzgerald is/was a master route runner, student of the game, and more gifted physically than Dez.
Not it I made last nights ckc
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Done :)
If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.
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none of this stuff bothers me… he looked like a men among boys in a pretty good football conference, thtas good enough for me..
anyway i heard that he had to do this workout at his high school because his college had conflict? this may have partially to do with why it was such poorly executed pro day.
Or the fact that he didn't bring his cleats...
or looked lost in a shuttle drill (seriously, I don’t care if he did it in a parking lot, it’s a damn shuttle drill, 6 year olds do it.).
or quit on a bench press (what, did he not like the way the bar felt? cmon..)
Here’s why it was a poorly executed pro day. Dez Bryant doesn’t give a shit. He has horrible work ethic, and this was really his only time to shine since he didn’t even play last year.. And he blew it big time. Like “Andre Smith leaving the combine early” blew it. Combine that with all the other red flags (motivation, attitude) and you have a guy who’s more likely to bust than contribute. No thank you.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 31, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions
What if....
Has anyone ever thought that maybe the guys wants to drop his draft value? I’m not backing the guy but when you don’t bring your regular cleats, you half ass drills and you don’t finish your bench. Maybe, just maybe, he doesn’t want to go to some crappy team who has an early pick and wants to drop to a later team. It’s just a thought.
this
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So you'd rather get drafted by the Jags?
Or Denver? Or get drafted by a team that is going to the playoffs? Contracts are full of player incentives and I see Dez already pitching products for sponsers. There is money to made even if you slip, a first round pick is still getting paid.
You might make a couple million TOPS in endorsements
as a rookie Wide Receiver with no NFL record….TOPS is everything goes right.
Sign a Top 10 contract, and your are going to make $8-10 million or more in guaranteed money over a pick in 20’s….
I doubt anyone wants their value to drop…..please, does his effort at his pro day even make you think he wants to play for a winning team? lol
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His effort tells me that he does not care period.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is just hypothetical...
But when a guy like Rolle goes to NY for big bucks, we say he’s all about the money. When other players wait for big contracts we rip on them because they’re all about the money. But in this scenario, if he was attempting to push his stock value down, we then point out that by doing so he would lose millions of dollars so we call him an idiot. Yeah you’re right he would lose a lot of money but at the same time he could have David Garrard passing the ball to him. Lets say he slips passed us because we’re too concerned about his character flaws and a few others pass on him too and he lands with the Giants or god forbid the patriots. So David Garrard or Eli Manning or Tom Brady. Whose team would you rather be on Matty? Would the money be worth it to you?
But we ALL know that hes too immature to think on that level.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 31, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess I was giving him too much credit
But I still like to think that there are players out there that dream of winning a Super Bowl first and foremost and making some money along the way. Opposed to dreaming of making millions and hopefully being on a team that wins a Super Bowl.
There are a few.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
I say take Bryant, hell let’s go against the grain this time Parcells? why not, we need a big threat at WR, it was plain to see last year, this guy has the physical ability and tools to make an impact fast. Then worry about NT or FS with the next picks.
This stuff happens all the time, we get caught up in numbers and in the combine, and in personal issues and this and that, what did Percy Harvin do last year? he was pretty damn good, sure having Farve there helped, but we passed on him last year, and he didn’t even have the physical prowess as this kid. Screw it draft him if he’s there.
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What about a Draft day trade...?
Take Bryant @ 12….Turn around and immediately trade his ass and Smiley to Denver for marshall and high 3rd round pick….
Not a bad idea
That’s assuming Marshall is still in Denver at that time. It would be better than giving our number one pick to them and getting nothing but Marshall in return.
For sure
I think Denver mentioned looking to the draft to add a wr if they were able to move Marshall. It makes sense. But you are definitely right….IF Marshall is still there!
But Denver Draft right be4 us, so if they want Dez
they will draft him.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(23 years and counting)
Dez
Has Dez robbed a grocery store lately. Did I miss that story. Wh y is this kid being perceived as such a bad apple. He forgot his shoes. He had dinner with Deion. This guy is gonna be pissed off when he gets to the league and I sure as hell don’t wanna face him. No way this guy gets past pick 21. You know who drafts there, thats right New England, Belicheck will sure as hell take a flyer on the consensus #1 receiver in the draft. Henne has to have a big time #1 receiver, the rest of the offense is ready, were missing a Michael Irvin type reciver, this guy is it. I swear if he’s there and we take a freaking NT who’ll get maybe 30 tackles a season I’m gonna be pissed. All these DEF positions of need can be addressed in later rounds, Dez is a stud, I don’t know how we don’t pull the trigger on him. Oh and hes 20 freaking years old, anyone ever do anything they regret when they were twenty, This guy is going to be a Pro Bowler.
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