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Defensive backs hit the field in Indy to close the '10 Scouting Combine

On Tuesday the final group of guys took the field in Indianapolis at the Scouting Combine - the defensive backs. While I don't think there were too many examples of players whose stock rose or fell sharply on Tuesday, I think there were some things that are worth mentioning as the 2010 combine comes to a close.

And I want to start off by highlighting the talent at the cornerback position...or, rather, the lack thereof. When the presumed top corner in the draft disappoints by running a rather slow 40 time (relatively speaking, of course - he's still faster than me) and a number of corners look completely unimpressive during positional drills, you can't help but love how the Dolphins and their front office addressed their need at corner last year in the draft by taking two of the top corners available. If Vontae Davis was in this draft, he's the best corner available - plain and simple. And Sean Smith isn't too far behind - perhaps a top three corner in the '10 class. So kudos to Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland, and the Dolphins' scouting team for taking care of their issues at corner at the right time. If I was a team who really needed a corner right now, I'd be feeling a bit uneasy.

Now onto those who both helped and hurt their draft stock - with more of a focus on safeties than corners considering the Dolphins don't really have a need at cornerback.

Helped

Earl Thomas, S - I have always liked Thomas. But truth be told, I wasn't sold on him as a potential target at #12 because I just wasn't sure he was worth that high of a pick. However I'm starting to come around. Thomas put up very good numbers in the various tests. He measured in at 5'10, 208 - putting those internet rumors of Earl being just over 5'8 to rest. He then showed he's plenty fast to play free safety by running a 4.49 in the 40. He also looked very good in the positional drills, showing the athleticism many expected to see out of this talented safety.I like what Thomas brings in terms of his ability to cover. He's a true ball-hawking play-maker. I just wish he was a little more consistent with his tackling. But still, his performance in Indy has moved Thomas up to where he could be a potential target with the #12 pick.

Star-divide

Eric Berry, S - As if I could like this kid any more, right? Berry put together some excellent numbers. His 4.47 40 was the second best among all safeties. He then posted a ridiculous 43 inch vertical to go with his 10'10" broad jump. Are those numbers all-world? No. But they confirm what I've been preaching all offseason long - Eric Berry is the best safety prospect since Ed Reed.

T.J. Ward, S - The safety from Oregon showed very well in the positional drills. His 4.55 40 wasn't great but was certainly good enough. A big question about Ward is his ability to change directions and make plays on the ball. But he helped alleviate some of those concerns on Tuesday.

Major Wright, S - The Florida safety surprised with his display of speed (4.48 in the 40). I really like Wright's overall game, too. He might have looked a little stiff in some of the drills. But the game tape doesn't lie - he'll be good value in the middle rounds for some team.

Darrell Stuckey, S - This safety out of Kansas is going to start climbing draft boards after his solid day on Tuesday. He ran a 4.48 40 and leaped just under 40 inches in the vertical. His positional drills, though, is what opened eyes. He looked technically very sound and displayed impressive footwork. He's now squarely in the day two talk (rounds 2-3).

Devin McCourty, CB - The kid from Rutgers (RU, baby) showed very well on Tuesday. His 4.48 was solid and better than some expected. He looked athletic and fundamentally sound in his positional drills. And word has it he interviewed very well, saying he'd not only love the chance to play special teams as a return man in the NFL but also would like to be on the kick and punt coverage teams. Coaches love to hear that stuff. He's a borderline first rounder with a ton of upside.

Hurt

Taylor Mays, S - I must be crazy, right? How can a 230 pound guy who was "unofficially" timed in the 4.2s in his 40 yard dash (his "official" 40 was 4.43 - still the best figure among all defenders), posted a 41 inch vertical leap, and put up 225 pounds 24 times hurt himself at the combine? Simple - he continues to look lost in positional drills. He looked slow changing directions and back-pedaling and had scouts continuing to question Taylor's ability to play safety in the NFL. He's just not good in coverage and that explains how a player so fast can have just 2 total interceptions in his last three seasons at USC. Mays is destined to be an eventual outside linebacker in the NFL - much in the mold of a guy like Thomas Davis.

Joe Haden, CB - The presumed top corner in the 2010 class ran very poorly in the 40 (4.58 officially). But speed was never his problem in college so I'm not overly worried here. He did show well in the drills, showing good footwork and the ability to change direction with ease. But bad 40 times hurt corners - it's just how the draft goes. Malcolm Jenkins was a top 10 pick last year until his disappointing 40. So it'll be interesting to see if Haden just fell out of the top 10 to 15 picks.

Myron Rolle, S - Rolle might score a 45 or better on the Wonderlic test. But his pedestrian 4.67 40 is not going to cut it. Slow safeties kill defensive backfields. But Rolle is an easy kid to root for so I'll be pulling for him and hoping he bounces back at his Pro Day. But as it stands now, Rolle is a day three pick with hope fading that he squeaks into day two.

Chad Jones, S - At 6'3, 230, his 4.56 40 was actually a pleasant surprise. But what he has in straight-line speed doesn't make up for his inability to change directions quickly. He has poor fundamentals and the positional drills showed that. He also had to be spoken to a couple of times by the coaches running the drills because it seemed like Jones was having some issues understanding the drills. That's not good. Jones may be lucky to go in round three now.

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 3, 2010 1:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Major in round 4 or 5 would be off the chain.

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by Sid Bream's Moustache on Mar 3, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't even think a safety is worth a top 15 pick...

Eric berry at #12 is not much of a reach tho… but some dumb-ass team is gonna do a top 10 on him…. damn it!

The others listed here are from the second round and later. Some may even start in the NFL. But like you said Matty, I would not be happy if my team needed one of these this year. The combine was not kind to these guys. But then again, this is only a test, not a tell all.

I’m curious….. how was Morgan Burnette, safety out of Georgia Tech, at the combine? Or did he even show? He’s a favorite in the second round…

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by Alpha6 on Mar 3, 2010 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

If Rolle is a third day pick, I'd take him

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by Kdog92 on Mar 3, 2010 5:27 AM EST reply actions  

Thomas is a stud

But I don’t think that this front office takes him #12. I think that it will go NT or OLB with the first pick. I think he will be sitting there, and he has the potential to be the center fielder that we have been lacking. I think that we could do a lot worse…

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by jupiterfins on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

NT

Would be a huge mistake. D. Williams is not worth a top-15 selection.

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by sister_ray on Mar 3, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

The more info I get

The more that I think you are right. It’s seems that we could pick up a NT in the 2nd or 3rd. So LB, FS, or spiller or Bryant. Or the best option: trade down.

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by jupiterfins on Mar 3, 2010 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It’d depend on what you can get via trading down. I’d only trade down for an extra 2nd. I wouldn’t lose a player of Berry or Thomas’ caliber for a 3rd.

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by sister_ray on Mar 3, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

If Berry is gone at 12, Thomas will be the BPA – save for maybe Spiller.

Thomas had better feet and hips in the coverage drills than any DB yesterday – better than any of the CB’s or S’s. Thomas is ahead of Berry on Mayock’s board for a reason. He’s a better ball hawk, and he’s better in coverage. I have them as about equal.

Mayock says that Berry and Thomas are the future of the FS position – dynamic cover S’s, and I’ve been saying the same thing. E. Thomas reminds me of E. Reed.

And, Reed and Troy P. have shown the value of a great S. So, the idea that you should hesitate to take on early is silly.

You only pass on Thomas – assuming Berry’s gone – if you have the next D. Ware staring you in the face. I don’t see D. Ware in this draft class.

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by sister_ray on Mar 3, 2010 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

Exatly

Also we could probably trade down with the 49ers because they want Spiller. So we pick at the 17th spot and get an extra 3rd rounder. Earl Thomas is not a bad pick at 17 nor is Dan Williams. Then you also have an extra 3rd round pick for guys like Pat Angerer and Eric Norwood. Earl Thomas fills a huge hole in our secondary.

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by troynuke on Mar 3, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

thank god, i cant stand the combine

yeah it gives us something to talk about, but it really is the most overrated stat.

2 more days and we can talk about some real news

draft micah johnson

by dhall25 on Mar 3, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

What?

Don’t you know there are people who thrive on this combine shit? Where else would (cough) Nicky get his fill of big men in shorts?

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by Alpha6 on Mar 3, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Myron Rolle and Chad Jones

While I agree that Myron’s 4.67 in the 40 yard dash hurt, he was great in all the drills, such as how fluid he did the “w” drills and his ability to cut on a dime.

As for Chad Jones, when you throw 97 MPH he probably should look closer at baseball and I’m sure that there are plenty of MLB Teams who would love to have someone with a 97 MPH fastball!!!!!!!

by BraveNole on Mar 3, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

You know who looked really good??? Major Wright...

fast and strong to the tackle and to the ball. I love this guy. Take him. Just because he started 20 yards deep with the Gators doesn’t mean he has to. I’m still running the winnebago…jump on board.

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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

note to finster........

sooooooo…………..seems to me that i am not the only person that feels the way i do about haden…………

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by MagicDolphin on Mar 3, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Haden was clearly coached on the 40 by Dave Wannstadt. I’ve seen 5th graders with better starting form.

He gets coached up, runs a 4.4 for Pro Day. Game film dont lie

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by Sid Bream's Moustache on Mar 3, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

NO to ERIC BERRY at #12

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2001 RD. 1 #20- Adam Archuleta stl…FAILURE…2002 RD. 1 #8 ROY WILLIAMS Dallas…failed…2006 rd. 1 # 7 overall Michael Huff OAK – not worth it… #8 Donte Whitner, BILLS…ditto… There are a LOT of SAFETY’s drafted high that fail to live up to the hype.
Please note that TROY POLAMALU was a #16 (RD. 1) and ED REED was a number #24 (rd. 1) pick…. In my opinion both were better looking prospects coming out of college than Eric Berry is today….THIS IS WAY LOWER than all of you want to pick ERIC BERRY…I do believe Berry is worth a lower round pick (in the first) but absolutely NOT at # 12 !!!
Troynuke has a good idea about possibly trading down…Angerer and Norwood will be great lower round picks. And I agree that MAJOR WRIGHT would be a good pick later on in the draft…and how about CLEMMONS – how about giving him a chance to win the starting job from GERBIL – before we use a pick on another safety ? He ran a 4.41 last year at the combine…in case everyone forgot

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by 62Lou on Mar 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Smart man!!! I'm welcoming you aboard the winnebago. I love Major Wright.

He’s what we need and can be had in the 3rd or 4th round.

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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 3, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll say it again...

CHRIS CLEMONS 4.41 ……..ERIC BERRY 4.47
I really think Clemons might be a future starter in this league real soon…

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by 62Lou on Mar 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

CB Kyle Wilson from Boise State

If you are going to mention a CB you have to mention kyle wilson. I know we need a safety, but he had 25 reps, didn’t run the 40 because of a hamstring he tweaked during the senior bowl (expected to be in the 4.3s. good punt returner which we need because bess has been less than stellar. keep an eye on him. I don’t think he is a 12th pick but if he is around later then we should snatch him up in the second and move him to safety.

by tightypatwhitey on Mar 3, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Taken from one of the Draft sites....

OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
For as well as Weatherspoon worked out on the field and for as much as his "character" is praised within the Missouri program, he has turned off a number of decision makers just as much with his outlandish, look-at-me, loudmouth personality and has been criticized for worrying too much about his image and post-football career aspirations before he has accomplished anything in the National Football League."He never shuts up," one top executive said. "He was the loudest guy in the room for the bench press. He gives me a headache. I think he is full of (it). It’s all about himself. I don’t want him in my locker room."

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by 62Lou on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Matty, or anyone else?

Can you let me know what you think of Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, from IUP?

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by Kdog92 on Mar 3, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

I was shocked by Haden's 40 time,

and I will be looking forward to his proday to see if this was just an aberration, but if it isn’t this makes me back off a little on Haden, he is a quality CB but with his size that speed is not good, something to think about anyway.

by uncle finster on Mar 3, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

His football speed is second to none. If it was a track meet maybe...but football is played

in cleats and pads. Not spikes and shorts.

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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 3, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

earl thomas is a guy that i wouldnt mind picking up.... though i dont know when he is projected to go...

anyone here kno?

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by finzrule on Mar 3, 2010 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

1st round

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by jojo phin fan on Mar 3, 2010 7:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I have him in my top 5 to 6 players. I don’t think we can trade down and expect to get him.

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by sister_ray on Mar 3, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Taylor Mays

fastest player in college football this past year no doubt (going with a 4.23 40) but you’re right he did look lost at times in coverage and was often out of place, but he was able to chase down defenders with that insane speed…the couple times i saw him against ASU he wasn’t all that impressive

Myron Rolle i think has the potential to get the highest score ever (unless of course someone has gotten a perfect score, which i definitely think he can do)…dude is fucking smart as hell, and i think he poor performance may have to do with him not playing for a couple years and being at Oxford, and despite what he has stated about what his plans are for after football, which some are worried will distract, i think he will be just as committed as anyone for as long as he is playing this game…i think this guy could have a solid career in the NFL

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 3, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

That 4.23 time wound up being wrong by the way.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 3, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i was watching a game during the season and they said that

are you talking about his combine time?

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah they initially reported that as his time and then had to retract as its was actually

like 4.42 but hes still very fast.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 5, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Earl Thomas has my attention

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 4, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

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