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This is why I trust the Trifecta

48 regular season games ago we thought we had the answer.  We thought we were going into year three of a rebuilding mode headed by a qualified leader that claimed to be going nowhere.  Then he left.

32 regular season games ago we completed the worst season in team history.

Then things changed.

16 regular season games ago we were AFC Champions.  We hosted a playoff game.  Let me repeat.  Following the worst season in the history of our team we won the AFC East and hosted a playoff game.  One more time.  AFC Champs, home playoff game.

Last season was completely expected and I doubt any of us had that team projected as better then a 10-6 team.  Considering the amount of injuries this team got hit with last year I think 7-9 is commendable.  The fact that there was still a chance to make the playoffs in week 17 shows that it wasn't that bad a year.

After the jump you'll find all the reasons in the world why the Trifecta is doing an elite job in rebuilding this team as well as perspective when someone complains about the architects of a 1-15 to 11-5 turnaround regardless of 2009.

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Jake Long is a huge reason I trust these guys.  Who knows who Randy Mueller and Cam Cameron would have picked for us in 2008.  The idea of those guys being in charge of a 40 million dollar payday scares a hell out of me.  The Trifecta hit with the most important pick we've had since the Ronnie Brown selection.

Think of the short period of time they've had.  Two free agent periods and two drafts.  Consider all the players they've acquired that have become the core of this team.  Here's 25 players they've acquired that are the polar opposite of players considered a bust.

1. Jake Long-Potential Hall of Fame player.

2. Karlos Dansby-Forget the money, it's not yours and it was well spent.  He's one of the best at his position.

3. Chad Henne-Although he hasn't proven to be the answer he's the damn closest thing we've had to a long term answer since Marino.

4. Randy Starks-Affordable free agent acquisition in 2008 that also looks to be a long term answer.

5. Kendall Langford-3rd round pick that seems to be a long term answer.

6. Devone Bess-Undrafted free agent who should rule out the Wilford blunder.  This guy is  a long term answer for us at WR and with the addition of a #1 he could have a Welker type season.

7. Sean Smith-Another long term answer at amazing value in the 2nd round.

8. Vontae Davis-Guy was more of an answer in 2009 as opposed to a question.  Appears to be a long term answer.

9. Lousaka Polite-Free agent acquisition that seems to be a long term answer as well as an obvious fan favorite.

10. Donald Thomas-I've seen some hate towards this guy lately but I think we're quick to forget he was a 6th round pick in 2008 and was coming off an injury in 2009.  Give this guy time.

11. Phillip Merling-Another player that seems to fill a long term answer.  Especially as a complement to the previously two mentioned DEs.

12. Brian Hartline-4th round pick that might have gotten a little lucky at times last year but still gained confidence.

13. Chad Pennington-What he brought to this team in 2008 can never be forgotten.  He instilled confidence as well as quality at the QB position.  Henne might not have been as good as he was in 2009 if not for Pennington.  Having him back for 2010 is a nice surprise.

14. Dan Carpenter-Solid long term player who went undrafted.

15. Cam Wake-Whether he succeeds or fails in 2010, I do not know.  I do know that up to this point he's come as advertised and the fan base seems excited about him.  I'm looking forward to him displaying skills he has yet to display.

16. Jake Grove-If he stayed healthy this year he'd be higher on the list.  Free agent acquisition that must be highlighted if guys like Wilford and Wilson are being highlighted as busts.

17. Anthony Fasano-2008 was better then 2009.  Lets hope that he bounces back in 2010.  He's a quality player and when you consider that we got him and Adoyele for a 4th he becomes an even better transaction.

18. Jason Ferguson-Got him for a 6th round pick.  Argue all you want about his suspension but for the last two years he's been an answer for us when healthy.

19. Jason Taylor-I consider him a acquired player since they traded him first.  The difference between bringing back Ferg and JT is that we've already acquired JT's replacement, his name is Cam Wake.  Wake will fill the role that JT covets as the 3rd down rusher.  By not resigning JT they might be showing him respect since they might be convinced that he'd be cut at the end of camp.

20. Lex Hilliard-Solid player from the 6th round who has shown us flashes.

21. Chris Clemons-As a 5th round selection he showed ability.  Now if they instill the instincts he needs he could be a long term answer for us in time.

22.  Nate Garner-Originally a 7th round pick of the Jets, he was awarded to the Dolphins off waiver.  Although still listed as a tackle on the Dolphins website he seemed to be groomed for a role at guard last year.  I'd imagine the success of Garner last year has a lot to do with the attempted trade of Smiley.

23. Joe Berger-Solid free agent acquisition who showed great versatility.

24.  Tyler Thigpen-Quality player they acquired for a 5th round pick.  At the rate teams are looking for QBs I'm sure they'll turn a profit on that 5th pretty soon unless they get that value back in a Pennington trade.

25. Justin Smiley-When healthy he's been a solid answer for us although we're about to trade him.  As long as we get at least a 4th for him I'm good with that.  I'm of the opinion that playing next to Jake Long makes a lot of players better.

Now another 12 players that some might consider busts but since they're still here they do have a chance to turn it around.  Either way these players were acquired and not inherited and are listed alphabetically.

Charlie Anderson, Erik Walden, Kory Sheets, Kory Sperry, Lionel Dotson, Pat White, Patrick Turner, Quentin Moses, Reggie Torbor, Richie Incognito, Tony McDaniel and Tyrone Culver.

Here's 14 players that they inherited from previous team acquisitions.  I feel like each of these players has gotten better since this Front Office has taken over.  Not only that but the fact that they were able to keep 14 players two years after a 1-15 season shows that they have done the best with what they had.  Not only that but many of these players required new contracts over the last two years so the Trifecta approached these players with an open mind and not as if they weren't "their" guys.  Once again in alphabetical order.

Brandon Fields, Channing Crowder, Greg Camarillo, Jason Allen, Joey Haynos, John Denney, Patrick Cobbs, Paul Soliai, Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Ted Ginn Jr., Vernon Carey, Will Allen and Yeremiah Bell.

How about another 17 players they've acquired that have yet to get the opportunity to prove their worth.  From a pure numbers standpoint there should be more then a couple that develop out of these 17.

Andrew Gardner, Andrew Hartline, Brian Johnston, Dimitri Tsoumpas, Evan Oglesby, Ikaika Alama-Francis, J.D. Folsom, John Nalbone, Julius Pruitt, Lydon Murtha, Nate Ness, Ray Feinga, Rolly Lumbala, Ryan Baker, Ryan Grice-Mullen, Taurus Johnson and Tristan Davis.

So there you have it.  25 players that I would consider solid acquisitions, 12 more who have contributed and could get better, 14 inherited players who they've continued to develop and 17 players who have yet to receive the opportunity to succeed or fail.

I don't choose to "blindly follow" the Trifecta.  I choose to follow the Trifecta based on their track record as well as what they have brought us so far which is stability, integrity and respect.

For all the reasons I just outlined I choose to believe in the Trifecta when they decide to draft guys like Pat White, trade guys like Justin Smiley, not resign guys like Jason Taylor and sign guys like Gibril Wilson.

Sometimes they're wrong but the majority of the time they've been right so show some faith in the men we've all been waiting to lead us for a very long time.

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Even though we still have missing pieces and the Trifecta aren’t jumpin and spending millions for players on the market, they’ve still put together a decent team. I’m glad they haven’t mortgaged away draft picks like Wannstedt. The draft is hit and miss but they have gotten quite a few more quality players from it than any coach since Jimmy Johnson was here.

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by mikey2380 on Mar 25, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Um...48 games ago, actually before the season started...

i knew we were in big trouble with scam-cam/mueller & the inevitable Trent Green debacle.

Anyway, I think looking at it player by player is fine but tends to be a bit of a myopic approach. I prefer to examine the subject on a larger scale and ask questions such as:

overall, what is the state of the team?
is the team headed in the right direction?
has the FO formulated what looks like a clear plan to build a championship caliber team?
are the FO decisions contributing towards that goal of building a champion?

One should always recall that trust is not blind nor absolute. It evolves as do many things and the more a FO does right, the more success the team achieves….then the stronger the trust that the fanbase has in that FO. No surprise that Steelers, Colts, and Pats fans trust their FO after all the success they’ve had.

I look at every decision this FO makes with a critical eye precisely because I am a fan of the team and I want it to succeed. Blind trust and absolute faith in any regime/manager/FO is a recipe for disaster and frequently the way a lot of ‘isms’ have come about.

There have been grumblings and issues with some players (Porter among others) as well as changes on the staff (PP firing) as well as some other changes many fans would like to see (at OC for example getting ride of Henning).

Overall, I think this FO has done a good, not great, job so far. They’ve had some misses in the FA market, but have made some good choices in the draft…at least going back to 08. I think it is too early to grade say Henne, Smith, Davis, as well as the Dansby signing, although I think the prospects are at least positive.

I think we can grade the FO performance in full after say, the 2011 season. I think that’s long enough for their plans/decisions to have been shown to be excellent or not.

by Natalya on Mar 25, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd give our staff a B+ thusfar

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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with that

The coaching staff, sure, B+ sounds about right. At times Sparano could have made some better decisions as well as Henning. I think the fact that we had to replace Pasqualoni drops it to a B+ right from the start.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

when I say 48 games ago I mean the 2007 offseason but I see you get the drift
Overall, I think this FO has done a good, not great, job so far.

I think you’re being too critical. I could name more then half the teams in the league that would be happy to trade situations with us.

It’s your opinion and your entitled to it but if you just go off of the things you listed I think you’ll increase your good assessment to a great assessment.

overall, what is the state of the team?
is the team headed in the right direction?
has the FO formulated what looks like a clear plan to build a championship caliber team?
are the FO decisions contributing towards that goal of building a champion?

To me all four of those questions are answered with the success in 2008 as well as the obvious youth movement taking place. Whenever you can get young and still win something must be going right.

I think you got the wrong idea of my post. It’s not reasons to blindly follow the Trifecta. It’s reasons why I’ve grown trust in the Trifecta.

Blindly following would be trusting the Mueller/Cameron FO.

Trusting proven evaluators is just making the best possible decision in a world where there is no perfect scenario. You’ll always hit and miss and that’s why I had to list all of those players. It shows we’ve hit a hell of a lot more then missed.

You’re way of evaluating the team leaves a window for opinion while breaking up the current players shows that the track record for success in player acquisition already exists.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good but not great to me...

means a grade of B.

Though I think of it more as a mid-term progress report than any sort of final grade.

You say I’m too critical and I’d counter by saying you are entirely and incredibly premature in your judgement of many of these decisions.

Long – a potential HOF? After 2 years? No player should have the words HOF mentioned by their name after just 2 seasons.

Henne? Is he a sure thing at QB? Can you say that with certainty? I’d say it is promising but hardly a given.

Anything/anyone resembling a top wideout? none on the roster.

Secondary? Too early to say whether Davis & Smith are the answer (or not the answer).

Of course my method leaves an open window of opinion. Did you expect some sort of rigid, absolute critique based on an inflexible model?

This isn’t a multiple choice test we are scoring here after all.

by Natalya on Mar 25, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Long has hof "potential"

and if he keeps playing in such a manner, he should get in. But for all we know, he’ll break his leg in the first preseason game, and never play another down again. I believe that the HoF label should only be considered after the entirety of a career.

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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My issue is that by saying you grade them a B suggests they could have done better

Now I understand that you can always do better but the point of this is what exactly do you expect for a grade of A?

Long – a potential HOF? After 2 years? No player should have the words HOF mentioned by their name after just 2 seasons.

Keyword here is potential. If he maintains what he’s already done then I can’t see how he wouldn’t be considered when it’s all said and done with.

Henne? Is he a sure thing at QB? Can you say that with certainty? I’d say it is promising but hardly a given.

All I said was he’s the best we’ve had since Marino in regards to youth. I never said he was a sure thing QB but if you’d like to be critical in the selection of Henne then please tell me the other direction you would have gone in since I see the Long/Henne selection of 2008 as the best 1-2 combo pick that went down that year.

Anything/anyone resembling a top wideout? none on the roster.

This would be where you’re being too critical. They can only address so many positions in two years. Think of it this way. If you’re not sold on Henne as the answer then why bother addressing the #1 WR situation. Besides, who was available in the last two years that you think we passed on?

Secondary? Too early to say whether Davis & Smith are the answer (or not the answer).

Sure but most are leaning towards them being answers as opposed to questions.

Of course my method leaves an open window of opinion. Did you expect some sort of rigid, absolute critique based on an inflexible model?

This isn’t a multiple choice test we are scoring here after all.

That’s why I decided to list all the players so that people could see in black and white the vast number of quality players they’ve acquired, improved and are still developing.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

regardless of mid-term or final, I'm curious what they would have had to have done to get an A grade from you

I just don’t see how they could improve in the player acquisition end without becoming perfect. I’m counting 55 players they’ve acquired in the last two years that are still here as well as 14 they inherited(some of which they resigned), so please tell me how they could improve that grade you’re giving them.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd argue...

that out of the list of players you put up there…

How many of them are backups, and not full time producers?

If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.

by Fr8Train on Mar 25, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

I still don’t want a team full of Quality Backups :)

If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.

by Fr8Train on Mar 25, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with what both your are saying SpecialAgentWildcat and Nataly.

  Looking at it both ways makes a lot of sense. I trust the FO for now but as you said Natalya we should definitely wait till next season to truly pass judgement on the FO. I trust Sparano but he still has somethings to iron out on himself. There is no major problem with him just some small decisions here and there though there was one major decision we all remember is the time out during the Saints game. But really other then that he is a good coach.

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by Weecho85 on Mar 25, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust no one

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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The truth is out there?

If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.

by Fr8Train on Mar 25, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The X-Files...

way off aren’t I

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Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
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by dolfan0918 on Mar 25, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, you nailed it :)

If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.

by Fr8Train on Mar 25, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, and how many misses have they really had?

Between the draft and FA acquisitions over the last two years I’m thinking less then 10. In my book I wouldn’t consider anyone we are able to trade as a miss. I see many consider that Josh McCown was a miss when really they just didn’t have room for him since Penny was signed. We got a pick for McCown so no loss in my book.

It’s really just Wilford and Wilson that they screwed up on which is why I get annoyed when people suggest that the FO hasn’t proven themselves yet when in my eyes they’ve already proven themselves.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come now...

didn’t have room for McCown? That’s just inaccurate.

They got rid of him because well……..he was awful. Basically the fins paid a cool $2-1/2 million on McCown, his guaranteed money, to then trade him for a 2010 7th round draft pick.

$2.5 mil for a 7th round pick (which the dolphins didn’t even use as they sent it to KC).

I say miss.

by Natalya on Mar 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop spouting out reality and facts

We need imagination, cause that’s what wins….

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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they carry Pennington, Henne, Beck and McCown?
didn’t have room for McCown? That’s just inaccurate.

No it’s not, 4 is too many which means they didn’t have room. If Pennington isn’t signed then they would have kept McCown and you wouldn’t have this argument to make. You can’t label a player a miss when he didn’t even play in a regular season game for us.

The fact that they were able to get anything for the guy shows that they make the best of situations. The 7th rounder traded to KC was flipped into a higher pick the next year so lets tell the whole story.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yeap and they paid $2.5M for a player who didn’t play a single down for us.

But in the milk & cookies land of special agent wildcat, by all means call that a ‘hit’ ;-)

by Natalya on Mar 25, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a hit or miss

Keep in mind how late they signed Pennington. Circumstances changed so they had to move a QB that they had planned on developing and using.

It wasn’t a planned situation since no one knew that Pennington would become available.

Wasted money, okay I’ll buy that but a bust signing, no way. They did what they had to do in order to get Pennington on the roster. No one was giving up a pick for Beck so they moved the guy they could get a pick for.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Natalya, we have that 7th rounder back this year from Kansas City

You can not “logically” call something a miss that hsn’t happened yet.

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by AussieKen on Mar 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Post S.A.W. REC'D

Only Time Will Tell. One thing I disagree with is the JT situation. If they don’t sign JT that sends the wrong messege in my opinion. For all we know JT and Sparano texting each other right now. I think he will signed after the draft.

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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 25, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess is it's money right now for JT

I suppose that if he takes what he took last year that they would bring him back. My thing is if he comes back it should be to do what he does best which is rush the passer. His run/pass coverage skills are lacking and I do think they can find a better alternative for that role. In regards to 3rd down rushing I’d think that role is going to Wake which is why I’m sure JT isn’t a priority to them right now.

He must be asking for more then he got last year which is smart on his part. Maybe once the draft passes and no one wants to pay more then he got last year he’ll make his return.

I’m not too concerned over JT but I’m also not very sentimental guy either.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work SAW. Rec'd!

I have not seen any major stumbles like we saw with the previous groups that came through here since the Shula days (although Jimmy made some great picks). Until that time they get a pass and I will continue to have faith. Everyone needs to remember that there is more than one way to get to the same conclusion.

Now I can not wait for all the negative people to show up here and tell us how we are all idiots and blind for not seeing the truth. “Rome was not built in a day!”

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by texascowpunk on Mar 25, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

yw

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by texascowpunk on Mar 25, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely done.

When they signed McCown, they didn’t really have a lot of options. Pennington was not available, Henne was JUST drafted, and John Beck was terrible. I don’t really see how you guys can blame them for signing him to a contract with guaranteed money… players have agents and agents know when a team is desperate.

Wilson and Wilford were bad moves, but they have been right 85%+ of the time. Pretty solid if you ask me.

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by joel311 on Mar 25, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

My only beef with The Trifecta

was the coordinators. Pasqualoni is gone now, thank God, but I am in no way a fan of Henning. They probably kept him so Henne wouldn’t have to learn a new system in his 2nd year as a starter. This year is do or die for Henning, hopefully.

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by joel311 on Mar 25, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

super rec'd

the cornerstone of my faith in them is Jake Long. My assumption is we would’ve drafted M. Ryan instead of Jake, which is what i was actually hoping for at the time. But after they drafted Jake, all the pieces seemed to fall into place, with a little help from our [hapless] division rivals. solid post man

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by chrislucas on Mar 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh hell, there is a super Rec?

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by texascowpunk on Mar 25, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

would i lie in a thread about trust?

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by chrislucas on Mar 25, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I just was unaware!

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by texascowpunk on Mar 25, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just rec the post and then send him a bunch of gold stars in the mail every afternoon

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by chrislucas on Mar 25, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, gold stars?

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by texascowpunk on Mar 25, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

so many stickers

his car is covered in em

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by chrislucas on Mar 26, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL That would be awesome and sad all at the same time.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 26, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i sign every star "WITH PASSION- -- CHL"

he can’t get enough of em. he’s a stickered fool

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"opps i just grabed sum wood & started nawing" --WZB (CKC 2/2/10)

by chrislucas on Mar 26, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Mar 26, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

great post, i give A- grade

1. just because of making the Wildcat in vogue again, its the latest trend that almost everybody is trying to copy, but no one runs it like us.

2. They made the dolphins relevant again to outsiders, i cant tell u how many people up here in philly that tell me that they like watching the dolphins because of the wildcat and how much they like ronnie brown and wish they had him :) and just how fun they are to watch. instead of the typical jokes it used to be like; we have the colors of a chick team, flipper’s on our helmet “how cute” etc. people know we are a tough “out” now.

"Bad cops Rico, theres nothing lower"

by sonnycrockett on Mar 25, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

The question I have about the Trifecta is whether or not they can take the Phins to the next step?

They (by they I mean Parcells) have a history of turning shitty teams into respectable teams. For that, they deserve an “A” for what they have done with the Phins. The Phins are a respectable team again.

The problem is, and I have said this in past comments about the Trifecta, is that they also have a history of not winning playoff games. It is no accident that Parcells run teams haven’t won a playoff game in over a decade. Not since the ‘98 Jets. He didn’t win a playoff game in ’99, or 4 years with the Cowboys, or 2 years with the Phins. Those teams had to get rid of Parcells to start winning playoff games. Will the Phins?

Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)

by ct1361 on Mar 25, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Tony can get us to the promised land

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by chrislucas on Mar 25, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the same feelings

If it makes you feel any better I think that without Parcells that the Pats wouldn’t have come close to doing what they did over the last 10 years. Most of those players that Belichick started with were Parcells guys so at the very least we can assume we’re acquiring the right players.

Now the difference I see is that Parcells isn’t coaching on Sundays. Whether that is a positive or negative I’m not sure but it does change the situation compared to other teams that Parcells has rebuilt.

Maybe Sparano is the difference and Parcells has and always will be a good judge of talent in the draft.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

By Talent in the Draft you mean

2nd rounder Pat White
3rd Rounder Patrick Turner….

or….. :)

just kidding, I’m stoking the fire. His draft success lately hasn’t been established yet, he’s had some hits, and some misses…..

If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.

by Fr8Train on Mar 25, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parcells didn't have last say for the draft while at the Pats.

He left that franchise because of it and went to the Jets.

Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)

by ct1361 on Mar 25, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was magnified by the Terry Glenn situation

Although he didn’t have final say on the roster I’m sure he had plenty of say on who was drafted. He just wanted the final say regardless of if they were taking the guy he wanted or not.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

a fumbled snap by romo isn't parcells' fault,

and everytime demarcus ware makes a huge game ending play, they can thank parcells.

"Bad cops Rico, theres nothing lower"

by sonnycrockett on Mar 25, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

If you are going to give Parcells credit for one players actions
you absolutely have to have him take credit for another players mistakes….

If this post contains no substance, just assume that my answer is Brandon Marshall. Pay the 1st and 3rd, get the proven guy, and don't worry about that position for the next decade.

by Fr8Train on Mar 25, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The mistake was allowing Romo to continue that job after he became the starter

Why risk a QB’s confidence by allowing him to hold snaps?

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he drafted demarcus ware, who most would say

is the cowboys’ best player, romo fumbling a snap was a crazy rare fluke thing,99 times out of 100 it doesn’t happen. demarcus and romo’s body of work being pro bowlers on the cowboys compared to one XP snap is 2 different things, if u dont understand that, i dont know what to tell u.

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by sonnycrockett on Mar 26, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

this post was designed to draw you in and trap you inside the LaRon Byrd time rift

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by chrislucas on Mar 25, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And this is why I don't

http://www.thephinsider.com/2010/3/25/1390237/michael-iupati-12th-overall

Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

might be the smart money

he might not have the ceiling that others do but it seems like he doesn’t have a basement either. I guess it’s the kind of pick that comes as advertised.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK ... you make a valid point...

This team is getting younger. However, I see them getting rid of players like JT with no heir apparent and guys like Smiley and I am not really sure what they are trying to accomplish. If they let them go after they pick up someone in the draft that is one thing. But there is no assurance that there will be the player they want at 12. I think either way if they are drafting a OLB in the first round he could benefit from having JT around at least for one season.

Terrence Cody NT (pick 12), Jerry Hughes OLB(pick 43)
Jason Worilds OLB (pick 73), Jimmy Graham TE(4th rd)
Linval Joseph(5th rd), Myron Rolle FS(6a), Danario Alexander WR (6b),
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim OLB (6c), Legarrette Blount RB (7a), Micah Johnson ILB (7b)

by Jason Scott_90 on Mar 25, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe they're afraid JT will keep Dansby from assuming a leadership role

or maybe they just weren’t happy with how things went last year.

They should have sent JT on the field last year when J Pissy refused to leave the game.

I totally see where everyone is coming from in regards to JT and I agree to a certain degree but some things can’t be ignored. His age and how he performed last year are facts. His specialty might not be as good as Cam Wake’s specialty and unfortunately for JT they share the same specialty.

I’m convinced this is about money and they don’t care about having him around the facility one way or another. I think in their eyes he’ll sign when he signs and it’s not going to effect how he plays in 2010.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

another idea is maybe JT wants to spend this time with his family

I’m sure that if he’s signed then he’ll be expected to workout at the facility even if it’s voluntary.

In this scenario JT can work out at home and spend time with his family before things really ramp up.

They can still show great attendance at the facility and show that vets under contract don’t get special attention. If he was under contract right now and not going to the facility then I’m sure that wouldn’t be setting a very good example.

Scheduling the signing closer to the beginning of workouts also allows Dansby to become the leader while JT isn’t around.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 25, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like this train of thought better. he's older and he needs more rest then exercise

Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
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"Keep on knockin but you can't come innnn!!!"
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by Weecho85 on Mar 25, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you don't mind if I run with this.

Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING stupid draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT THE U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
"Keep on knockin but you can't come innnn!!!"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -

by Weecho85 on Mar 25, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it for the most part. If your defense can go out and make a stop on the first drive then

you can possible set a tone for the game plus you get the ball first after halftime. I guess the negative is that if you let the other team just drive it right down your shoat on the fist drive then maybe you have let them set the tone.

Maybe in the end it does not matter.

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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Mar 26, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

i prefer recieving first for the most part, depends who we play

against the jets i like seeing us kick first, so our D can shut the snachez downn

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"opps i just grabed sum wood & started nawing" --WZB (CKC 2/2/10)

by chrislucas on Mar 26, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do the same thing as a coach.

I like to get the ball to start the 2nd half, when it’s most important to establish the tone and tempo, and when you get an entire half of football to make adjustments to. If you can go down and score to start the game, there’s still 50+ minutes to play. You do it to start the 2nd half, you steal momentum for the final 30mins, and usually rock the team back on their heels because every motivational word and adjustment they made at halftime didn’t make a lick of difference.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 26, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your never safe against Manning.

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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Mar 26, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless you're a member of the WHODAT nation

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"opps i just grabed sum wood & started nawing" --WZB (CKC 2/2/10)

by chrislucas on Mar 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

True story but can you imagine Manning in that Saints offense? Not even fair!

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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Member of the replace Henning with Lee now bandwagon!

by texascowpunk on Mar 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

or combining the best of both offenses

reggie wayne, shockey & clark? shitballs

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Pre-order your boarding pass for the "Draft LaRon Byrd in 2011" newly procured Boeing 747-200B (formerly Air Force One) now!
In case you weren't already aware, it is indeed all about The U.
Skrate thuggin it on the "Please Fire Dan Henning" Bandwagon.
"opps i just grabed sum wood & started nawing" --WZB (CKC 2/2/10)

by chrislucas on Mar 26, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Either way its not fair.

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
Member of the replace Henning with Lee now bandwagon!

by texascowpunk on Mar 26, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

great post

Well said. The Tri-Guys overall have done an outstanding job. I have no doubt that even with the occassion miss hit- they are building an organization that will be competitive as long as they remain in power. If and when the time ever comes when they break up they will leave a minimum 5 year residual effect for the years after.
Hopefully this will not be any time soon.

"Expect nothing. Blame no one. Do Something!"-Bill parcells

by MDPHINFan on Mar 26, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

good post

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 26, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

great post

I agreed with everything you said…
Thats why i follow Bill Parcells

by rudsonh on Mar 26, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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