Oshiomogho?

by Danny G on Mar 22, 2010 1:36 AM EDT

Where is this kid on our FA list? We missed out on both of our safeties that we tried to sign and failed. This is a true free safety and fits our needs much better then both rolle and clark, so why haven't we approached him. He has the lowest tender on him and St.Louis has said they probably wont sign him back. I mean we free all of this cash up on Joey and Gibril getting cut and have only spent it on one player, now I'm no mathematician but I know for a fact with an uncapped year we should be spending a little more then that.

Heres what I say we have left to do this free angency

Sign Oshiomogo and Javon Walker

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Just one mans opinion...

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by MagicDolphin on Mar 22, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions

ok...im an idiot i dont know why i said that......i forgot about his low tender

Just one mans opinion...

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"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Mar 22, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions

O.J. Atogwe

Atogwe is recovering from shoulder surgery. He becomes a F/A June 1st. You are correct he would fit our defense perfectly. Magic your also right he will cost us at least $6.5 Million per year to sign him. So if we don’t draft a FS before the Third we might make a run at O.J. Atogwe.

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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 2:44 AM EDT reply actions

i thought i said that for a reason......but i couldn't remember the figure or whether it applied to OJ

Just one mans opinion...

"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Mar 22, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

thanks FinFan

Just one mans opinion...

"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Mar 22, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

why does he become a f/a so much latter?

by Danny G on Mar 22, 2010 4:02 AM EDT reply actions

He's a RFA currently. If he doesn't sign his tender offer from the Rams he becomes a FA on June 1st.

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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions

Well actually

They would have to release him or pay him something crazy like 8 mil

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by Cfrfootball39 on Mar 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Actually they would have to pay him $7 Mil. Based on the 110% rule.

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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions

i would rather sign sharper to be honest

Atogwe is the better long term answer, but he’s more expensive and i believe we will let clemons and a top 4 pick in this year’s draft be our new safety tandem of the future. Sharper still has 1-2 years of great coverage and playmaking ability and will be nothing short of a mentor for clemons and possibly earl thomas or whoever we draft.

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by BSerious72 on Mar 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions

You can't be serious!

Atogwe solves all problems short and long term. Signing him is a much better solution than Sharper. I’ll give it to him he had a great season in ‘09, but I wouldn’t expect him to reeapt that level of play in 2010.

by inishe8 on Mar 22, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

lol but i am

he’s expensive. look atogwe is great and i would love him on our squad; he’s better than what we have now. But i think Sharper would be better just to sign for a year and get Clemons/ Earl Thomas lead the future

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by BSerious72 on Mar 22, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I think the reason they haven't done anything

(or for that matter, NO team has done anything), is because as soon as a team comes to terms with him on an acceptable contract, the Rams will just swoop in and match. The Rams are just waiting for another team to hammer our the contract. It’s actually pretty smart if you are intended to renegotiate a contract to keep the player anyhow.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions

this

Just one mans opinion...

"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Mar 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Agree. Also seems like Sharper is in the same boat. He just had knee surgery and the Saints will just match what ever he gets.

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1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS

by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

if they were going to do that, they wouldnt have put a low tender on him. also we dont have to pay him that 110%, we could land OJ for around 5-7million which is what we were paying gibril

by Danny G on Mar 22, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Your Right the 110% applies to the Rams. Not us if we make an offer.

The Rams paid him $6.3 mil last year. They have to pay roughly $7mil this year. Low tender is bait for another team to offer him less money. $6mil or less and all they have to do is match within 7 day of that offer. All offers have to be in before April 15 I believe then the Rams have to tender him an offer.

Leader of The Draft Derrick Morgan Express Train.
Know your enemy, know youself, fight 100 battle without defeat. Sun Tzu
1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS

by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions

ok now that makes sense, regardless I would pay OJ 7mill

by Danny G on Mar 22, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

I would pay him $6-$7mil and remind him there is no income tax in FL.

It’s funny how A. Rolle took a deal in NY for roughly $37mil for 5yrs. I think I read our offer to him was a 5yr. $32 mil. It’s close to a wash when you look at tax rate I believe. No wonder Rolle owes money to the IRS. By the way I’ve wanted to get O.J. ever since the Rams put the Right of Refusal tender on him.

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1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS

by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree but these guys see the total amount of the contract as some level of respect.

Sort of where to I rank against the other guy. Stupid way to look at it but its how it is.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 22, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree 100%. It's just funny on one hand and sad on the hand.

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Know your enemy, know youself, fight 100 battle without defeat. Sun Tzu
1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS

by FinFanFromCA on Mar 22, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh its sad. Thats why its refreshing to see what JT did last year.

I am sure he could have gotten more money from some other team but he put his love of Miami and more importantly his family before the money.

by texascowpunk on Mar 22, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

stupid is as stupid does

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

mama always said

"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Jerry Hughes in the 1st
Nate Allen in the 2nd (Cant have enough Allens on the secondary)
Jimmy Graham in the 3rd

by dolfan0918 on Mar 22, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

thin you for splainin that fo me. =)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry

but St. Louis definitely wants him back. No one has offered anything because they know St. Louis will match it instantly. Out of respect, the other teams are leaving him alone so St. Louis won’t have to pay a fortune in a bidding war they will ultimately win.

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by Farorefox on Mar 22, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

OR............

other teams are waiting for him to become a FA June 1st…..

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly. Sounds like St Louis might be playing a dangerous game.

by texascowpunk on Mar 22, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions

They are cleaning house, everyone does it with a regime change. They would much rather spend that cash on a bigger need then FS

by Danny G on Mar 22, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I completely disagree with your assessment

I think they fully intend to keep him, but want to get the FA competition out of the way. Otherwise, they will just have to pay him big for a one year deal, and then still have to deal with re-signing him as a FA next year.

By doing it this way, they let him gauge the market for his services, and then just come in and match whatever multi-year deal he gets. BUT, they have the advantage of creating limited interest in him right now (vs. next year when he is a full on FA), so that they aren’t competing for him in an all out bidding war. It’s actually pretty smart.

However, there is a downside for the Rams. If he does not sign an offer sheet from another team by April 15th, his rights revert to the Rams. In other words, he is no longer a RFA. Good thing, right? Maybe not. The Rams would now have until June 1st to work out a long term deal with him on their own.

If they can’t get that done, they have two choices. They can give him a qualifying offer of 110% of his 2009 salary (which would be ~7M), for the 2010 season by June 1st OR let him become an unrestricted FA. The Rams would rather work out a long term deal that pays him less and locks him up for 5-6 years, but they can still pay him and keep him for one more year.

Another team coming in right now with a long term deal would actually help the Rams a quite a bit, because it would force a deal without competition. The speculation is that, if they can’t get him signed to a long term deal by June 1st, they will let him walk rather than pay him 7M for one season. If that happens, he can sign with any team.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 23, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

thats some good incite.

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by Weecho85 on Mar 23, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

thanks man

it is what it is. it will play out the way it plays out. I hope we get a chance to try to sign him. =)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 23, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions

yea same here.

by Weecho85 on Mar 23, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

He incited me to write a post the other day,

but I’m not finished with it.

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by uncle finster on Mar 23, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah yeah...

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 23, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL

by texascowpunk on Mar 23, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions

darren sharper = overrated

not a good fit in miami

oj atogwe would be a good fit but there is no chance st louis lets him go

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 22, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions

Javon Walker still plays?

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 22, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions

he still gets paid

playing, that’s another story

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 22, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions